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Kudo Tsunoda Takes G4 Into The Secrets of Microsoft's Kinect

Kudo Tsunoda, Mircosoft's resident glasses-wearing, motion-controlling developer took us inside the secrets of Kinect earlier this week so that we would have a bit more insight into the mechanics of it while we flailed, jumped, ducked, kicked and punched the empty air all around us. Oh, and you can talk to it as well, and Kudo tells you how. Watch the video below to get the details as everyone braces for a lot of arm-waving on November 4."

-g4tv.com

darthv725359d ago

crazy hair doo's, big sunglasses, big ear rings, members only jackets. Say what you will, fashion trends are always rotating and never really going out of style.

Fishy Fingers5359d ago

Hopefully gaming follow suit and we'll eventually go back to the god damn pad.

Masamori Sumimura5359d ago

Dude is clearly a hipster type of guy that doesnt care much about fashion. I dont mind the way he dresses I dont think thats the point here.

rroded5359d ago (Edited 5359d ago )

in shame or jus ta cover up them buggy drug eyes?

No remote needed just talk to your xbox trust us its cool nvm the lack of games or that its a overpriced eye toy light ;)

edit lol @ the disagrees so he's not saying the kinects coolest feature is that its a 150 dollar remote replacement with bonus fail built in?

Lastcall5359d ago

Guy looks like a bum off the streets, and he likes Kinectimals the best..Homo..Thank God the Kinect is launching soon so this guy can buy some new glasses and get some decent clothes and a shave...ROTFLMAO

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Blacktric5359d ago (Edited 5359d ago )

I wonder if he ever takes them off when he's taking a sh*t or when he's in the shower or even when he's sleeping?

DoomeDx5359d ago (Edited 5359d ago )

"Ever wondered what the bottom of an avatar shoe looks like? Well BAM! Here it is!"

*Shows a spastic Kinect-Xbox Avatar*

awesome dude.

darthv725359d ago

why is that such a meaningful moment for some people?

I wish I could see the bottom of my avatars foot in home. I swear someone spit gum out and I stepped on it.

Karum5358d ago

Because as they demo what it looks like the Avatars leg twists in ways the human body would not be able to without remove the bones from your legs and thus being completely unrealistic by virtue of it doing anything but following how you moved your body. And it kind of spazzes out as he did the movement.

DoomeDx5359d ago (Edited 5359d ago )

Unbelivible! Even his avatar looks like a douche..

D4RkNIKON5359d ago

lol I hate this Kudo Tsunoda, he is a douche

Lastcall5359d ago

He needs to take a bath really bad..guy reeks of bullshit.

JokesOnYou5358d ago

yeah of course he's a douche because he works for micro and not sony, makes sense only on n4g

hazelamy5358d ago

no, because comes across as a total douche, seriously, the whole never takes off his sunglasses even indoors in the dark thing is a major indicator of douche status, look at tomonobu itagaki for further proof of that.

seriously, whenever i see and hear this guy, i'm wondering what he's on.

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MajestieBeast5359d ago

I know a secret psst it does not work (shocked face)

Killed4Less5359d ago

I've spent about 30 minutes with it and it seem to work just fine.

What game were you playing?

number475359d ago (Edited 5359d ago )

it was laggy and didn't work 1:1. Plus, it doesn't work with any game that appealed to my xbox purchase for the past 5 years.

ElementX5359d ago

Riiiight, I believe you. Why'd you spend 2 hours with it if it didn't work? Because you were having fun! If sometohing isn't fun, you sure as heck don't do it for 2 hours.

R2D25359d ago

Good one element - cant wait for his response : )]
I only played it for 2 Hrs because some one was holding a gun to m my head.

Dbone5358d ago

What secrets? All this video is, is this crazy homeless looking dude regurgitate the same things that have been said about Kinect already. Nothing new here.

If it's really so awesome Kooter, lets see you demo some stuff so we can judge for ourselves how amazing this device is before people go and blow $150 on it

Bonkers.

k-Lan5358d ago

I can't wait for his response also.

number475358d ago (Edited 5358d ago )

Fun isn't what the problem with kinect is, as its the same fun you have with those Projection screen kiosks at movie theaters or ces expos. The same fun you can have with any device. Its the same exact fun you have with any webcam that does the same exact thing. Fun isn't Microsofts advertising slogan or theme. Its Revolutionizing gaming as we know it, where you are the controller. This has all been hidden by previews/paid testimonies/actors/pre-rendere d game footage with actors catching up to the kinect 'gameplay.' You can't ignore every single lie of Natal, which has been any time the product was shown -- and cover it up with the question of fun. I'm not stupid, and many people aren't either. Fun wasn't what Milo was about, remember? Revolutionary A.I which spawned articles about such a revolution. None of this is true. Not one bit of it. Which why for gaming, Nintendo & Sony passed up on this device to play games due to its limited scope. Again, Fun is just saying that you have no argument to defend the fact that Microsoft is miss-directing people with its advertising this device. Especially its 1 to 1 interaction that leads you-as a consumer- to believe that the thing is a virtual you inside of a gaming world. Its not. Its hitting target areas of a screen. This is a ball coming in your direction, or moving your arm left to keep balance of a base of cubes and shapes. This technology isn't new, has been done, and is free for all to see & use at home on their PC's.

2. The technology behind kinect isn't utilized in any of its games.The best utilization of Kinect is for the WiiFit type titles, but even then you're doing what you would do simply by watching a fitness video. You have to slow down your natural speed to compensate for kinects speed -- as hinted to by any representative thats explaining to you HOW to play it. Its not just jump in and play -- as advertised. Its "do it how we are doing it, and alter your natural reactions." Even for the dance game. Its pre-canned animations that hit/miss if you make a pose. It doesn't copy your body movements 1:1. If you just stand still, it will keep moving until you crap out. Its all an illusion...

If Kinect was advertised as "Well, it may be buggy, Milo was a lie, its nothing like minority report.. but look, you'll have fun with it.." Then I'd have to say that yep, that would be dead on. But the Wii & Move also provide that same basic fun, and more so with their more complex titles that appeal to anyone that bought a 360 at launch.
But its just as fun as playing Ball in Cup, or scategories with a group of people. Fun was never an issue. But people like all of you, seem to take comments on its latency/bugs/laughable game lineup to mean it can't provide a basic level of entertainment. Kickball can produce a basic level of entertainment as well, but its surely not a revolutionary or unique product.

I'd never play a wii game for 2 hours, or move, or kinect unless I was paid to give an honest opinion about it. As a gamer, looking at this mystery device of the future, its not. As a gamer, looking at its game lineup, its not appealing.. The ideas of the games are, dance central would be amazing if you were put into a virtual avatar and danced around -- which people think it is, but thats not how it works. All of Kinects hype would be an amazing addition to gaming, if it worked as hyped/advertised. Anyone would be a fool to say otherwise. Buying a car of the future, which promises all of these new things, only to find out it just barely drives doesn't make up for the fact that you bought a car of the future. Right now, you guys are saying "so what if the sign said car of the future, can you still drive it to work?" Well yes, but I can also drive anything else, and even better intuitive controls.

yippiechicken5358d ago

Did it feel good to get that off your chest? :)

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Joostin5359d ago

Sounds like he is trying to sell himself on Kinect....so if you are saying "Xbox sucks, play PS3 or Watch a movie...would it play the movie? Voice recognition is shit and will always be shit unless you can train the system to understand the way you speak. What if you speak Engrish.

Just stupid features instead of making games that aren't shit.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1256d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1256d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161256d ago (Edited 1256d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691256d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1255d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791255d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1255d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1256d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1256d ago (Edited 1256d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1256d ago (Edited 1256d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1255d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1255d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1255d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1254d ago (Edited 1254d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1255d ago (Edited 1255d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1255d ago (Edited 1255d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101256d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1256d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101256d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1256d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101255d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721255d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1256d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1256d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1255d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1256d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721432d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1432d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901432d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1432d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1432d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131432d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1432d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1432d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1432d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771432d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1432d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901432d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1432d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901432d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1432d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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