The world's first Kinect review has appeared in today's London Evening Standard newspaper - giving the accessory a full five stars and a glowing recommendation.
I wont believe any reviews, until i check it out. no reviews before launch by prominent sites is shady. Edit: review embargo is after it launches. So dont trust this.
But this is a review?!
Not at all.
sounds like pure pr... "It's the stuff of science fiction, letting you play games and navigate through menus with a swipe of your hand. It is the film Minority Report come to life" ya so where they been hiding all the cool eh?
"It's the stuff of science fiction, letting you play games and navigate through menus with a swipe of your hand. It is the film Minority Report come to life" ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
"It's the stuff of science fiction, letting you play games and navigate through menus with a swipe of your hand. It is the film Minority Report come to life" 500m marketing coming into effect?
" the initial launch line-up is branded "incredibly good fun". LMAO!!! This guy is full of sh1t!
It's funny that anyone would question his experience with Kinect though. We have visual proof of how awesome it is NOT. I would take his word that it was lame over 5 stars and "Minority Report come to life" in a heartbeat. That one statement is LOLworthy on every level. Edit: How many games/controllers have been reviewed by the gaming people at the "London Evening Standard"? Someone about them screams "NOT A SOURCE FOR GAMING NEWS" and I don't know what it is.
What's sad is that MS won't force a retraction of this. If it was 1*, they'd be like, "YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING YET!!!"
was given by the guy watching...not the one actually playing/using kinect... that should tell you something:/
a controlled hands on review is just simply an opinion (wait...arent all reviews opinions???) Anyway, @sneaky...it isnt CVG review. Its some london newspaper. I am sure they will have theirs soon enough.
N4g is going to explode with rage and.... wait. Never mind.
" But for now, this is an essential purchase for any Xbox owner, and if the games are good enough, could help Microsoft steal the lucrative family games market from Nintendo." shouldn't it be an essential purchase only if the games are good enough?? but kinect will sell in bucketloads.. it really does appeal to mums, non-gamers and casuals.. i have tried it and it is actually quite a good party gaming device
If the London Evening Standard says it's good then it must be!
Whether we like it or not, Kinect will get rave reviews from even the biggest sites. Where the Wii or Move will get negatives, Kinect will get passes, especially in the games department. Why? Because that's the way it is. Journalists will never admit foreign superiority over American hardware. There will always be an excuse. Here's a taste of what we've seen and will see. Move is great at motion control, unfortunately the launch lineup is lacking. 8/10 If Kinect is the future of Microsoft, then the future looks promising. Although the launch lineup is missing some core elements, even the most hardcore will find it hard to deny the 'fun' factor Kinect brings to the table. Kinect is solid, not only for it does now, but also at what the future holds for gamers. 9/10 May not be word for word, but it'll be pretty damn close.
Newspaper reviewers have always been easy to please when it comes to video games. "He concludes: "In a few years, even our desktop PCs may be using a new version of Windows with Kinect built in. But for now, this is an essential purchase for any Xbox owner"" I can't take this idiot seriously.
i know what you mean. this place is anti micro.... i got baned for 3 days for saying move is the bomb! in an article on n4g saying that sony lied on numbers. really n4g? thats nothing compared to all the personal attack you get in here.. so i was like ok n4g! you dont respond to to the contact link.. so i made another account str8 bashing the 360 calling ppl idiots etc that backed kinect and 360 for 3 days! not 1 warning, no ban.. ride that sony d!ck harder n4g! this place is a joke and will always be a joke. when they took out the open zone i thought this place would be better. now i see the only reason they took it out was so the we are forced to read all the sony butt hurt fud..
I read the review and lol'd my whole way through it.
Really. It's the Evening Standard. A free London Newspaper, which has about half a page a week of ~5 sentence 'reviews', plus a rating, which 5/5 scores are given out left, right and centre. If this wasn't on such a controversial subject no one would have taken any notice to this review.
*now wheres my piece of that 500mil *:) I find it quite odd how when the move got reviewed and previewed you would always see the word Wii in the article But for some reason when people mention Kinect they dont mention PSEYE ... its also a controlless gaming device might not be as hi tech but it does let you play games without a controller well it may be too soon to speak just be on the look out to see if future reviews mention that if not then we know where that 500mil went to lol
I think they just watched some Youtube videos and read some things about Kinect and than went out and reviewed it to get some hits.
"In a few years, even our desktop PCs may be using a new version of Windows with Kinect built in. But for now, this is an essential purchase for any Xbox owner"" hahhahah. I wonder how much of the $500 million reviewers will be getting?
Preview demo given by Microsoft rep...says so in the article UPDATE. "However, CVG understands that the review was based on a hands-on with the kit orchestrated by Microsoft, rather than an exhaustive product test. "
Just wondering.. what 'something' should that tell us? It seems like, to me, it'd be a worse review if you were watching. Just curious as yo what your take is..
Review embargo is after launch??? no way...that's fishy...
I'm still confused, to this day, why people think a camera that forces you to hold your arms/hands up in the air to perform navigation will replace a keyboard and mouse, which doesn't require any such movement. IMHO, a glass screen surface will likely be what replaces these two items, using touch sensitive controls without the need to hold your arms up for an hour or longer to play a game. @DatNJDom81: Read the article, CVG isn't reviewing it, they're talking about the first people to do so.
If a bunch of faceless internet strangers disagreeing with you makes you upset
Agree/Disagree's meen nothing, it's the reply's that count, at least the senseable ones.
I read the article and I know its not a review. I gave my opinion using the 5 stars as a reference. My lil cuzzo reaction was golden though. She made her opinion well known. LOL.
"will replace a keyboard and mouse" Why on earth would it be for replacing that? It's not for replacing anything unless you think about the tv remote. It's for *enabling* full-body gaming, and for partnering control pad gaming. If that's what you think then you've failed on keeping up with gaming.
@edhe: What? The article is what said it would replace the keyboard/mouse, not me. I'm saying it's idiotic to think such a thing.
This is hilarious, Look at all of these crybaby PS3 fanboys spreading their hate. This takes BITCHASSNESS to a new high. Jealousy if a special emotion isn't it. It's amazing how powerful it is. It can take an otherwise nice guy and have him hating like a 14 year old school girl. (If the shoe fits then wear it.)
Dont be confused, because kinect isn't meant to "replace a keyboard and mouse", I think what most are saying is that motion control offers an alternative method that is either great for new types of game experiences or they could be great for enhancing current games in conjuction with a standard controller. I mean you've been around long enough to know that just because some journo says the latest tech is the future that even if its true great devices such as a k&m or standard controllers still will remain the default control scheme for quite awile. Motion control tech has along way to go before they could deliver the kind of intricate control it takes for more in depth gaming on their own. So maybe years from now the tech could be capable of much more or maybe as you suggest it will be touch sensitive controls, who knows...either way controls will continue to evolve and gamers will choose with their wallets whatever works best. Well this is my last sign off with, JOY
"a glass screen surface will likely be what replaces these two items" Agreed probably. But for the time being, why can't we see a future where mouse, keyboard, air-gesture, surface-gesture, and voice recognition tech all exists side by side? I mean... look at the display and interface they were pitching for Tony Stark's playroom. Why not that?
It is pretty common practice to allow reviews before embargo IF the review is over a certain score. Any early reviews for ANYTHING should be viewed in that context. A lot of games start out with good reviews, then the review embargo lifts and the score - metascore or other average - stabilizes to its final value. Early positive reviews are not necessarily "bought" or otherwise biased, but any time you have scores coming out earlier than the embargo, there's a reason they're allowed to be released.
Unless it is a bad one. Everything else is either going to be, biased, paid for, no name site, badly written, fake and or a combination of the above. The only way to get the majority of people to accept a kinect review on this site is if you give it 1/5 or less
I was reading through the comments here and people seem to be angry that someone else likes Kinect *gasp* It's ridiculous how fanboy-driven N4G has become. Anyone who thinks this site hasn't become anti-M$ is obviously a blinded fanboy.
And no PS3 exclusive review is real unless it gets a 10/10, right? You fan boys make me laugh.
Agreed 100%... same way they refuse to accept that it's more than a webcam with a tilt motor, or that it can do what the Eye can't.
The more 5/5 reviews the better. It's like having a review of a car that promises James Bond like technology. Then, when you get it on the road and actually start driving it fails to do as advertised (James Bond gadgetry and underwater submarine travel? Nope. Just a normal car that is kind of buggy.). There will be a consumer backlash. Mark my words.
Yeah, just like all xbox fanboys are in denial about paid reviews. From all the poor stuff we've seen and read we can't help but think this 5/5 review might be slightly bias....
There's nothing shady about having embargo's after or on the day it launches. Microsoft did the same thing for Halo: Reach, Activision does it for like all their games now, and so do a bunch of other publishers. But those games didn't turn out bad did they? I know Halo Reach didn't.
It dosnt mean the game is bad but its still a shady practice to not let it be reviewed prior to release. It dosnt give people as much time to get a balanced overview of the product and instead relies on people getting swept up in the excitement on launch day.
To add to that: There is nothing which says you have to buy the product day 1. There are very few this I buy day 1-- review or not. The thing about review though is that you should not trust them. They are some one elses opinion. Kinect will be available in stores for testing. Go to one of them, test it and form your own opinion. I expect bad reviews from these "Hardcore Journalist", who have already made it clear Kinect was not made with them in mind. So what should I do knowing that? Put off buying Kinect. Ha! I don't need a bunch of nerds sitting in a cubicle some where telling me what I would or should like. Some of guys seem to have incredibly low self esteem
Reviews are still a very good source of the quality of a game. The biased reviews usually balance out so checking metacritic and some decent review sites will give you a good indication of a product's value to you personally. If you don't have access to kinect, listening to a range of other people's opinions and watching vids is all you can go on. Why can a company decide when their product should be reviewed? What happened to freedom of press? It's a marketing trick to sell more games on launch day... I don't like trying to be tricked in that way.
....but think that early reviews of kinect are crap. Persoanlly I dont want motion control in ANY form (unless we get a star trek like holodeck) but when early move reviews came out all you heard was that sony did it again and how great it was and crap but an MS review comes in early for kinect and lo and behold people dont believe it. I guess N4PS3.com is right.
It's easy not to believe a good review when we have proof otherwise. If someone would have written a review about Move saying "the Wii is more accurate and the Kinect is more precise than the Move" people would have known it was bullshit. A "review" that says "Minority Report come to life" is pure bullshit in every sense of the word. You know it. I know it. Everyone involved with Kinect knows it.
I've said this before and I will say it again. Sites weren't the only ones reviewing Move. Sony had tons of blog events where the averages joe can play it. I went to one in Seattle and was sold on it based off of Socom 4 gameplay. Besides it getting good reviews Playstation fans were raving about it as well because they actually played the thing in a reasonable time frame before its launch.
what honey is to bees for ps3 fangirls. the second a kinect artical goes up booom there on it like a rash trying to convince the world that the ps3 is the only console ever made. I cant wait to get kinect and im going to stop coming on this site because its no longer a gaming site its a fangirl site
looks great to me. But I'm a multi console anti-fanfag. Most of these people that say kinect isn't appealing just don't want to admit that it is because of their corporate loyalty. [email protected]
"I wont believe any reviews, until i check it out" Interesting, i bet you dont say that for games though
In fairness, games don't cost £130 - and often have demos to try. So it's understandable that some people won't want to lay down their money until they try it. Even if MS haven't bought off any websites or publications, the industry as a whole has very little credibility (only last week Bethesda were rumoured to have influenced or pulled reviews), so some scepticism is understandable - especially after all the vids of Kinect failing when demoed at shows etc. So I'm also in the 'won't believe the reviews until I try it' camp. Actually I'm in the 'won't believe the reviews OR try it until I see a killer app for it' camp!! :)
No wonder this is number one news, they have nothing better to do than troll like douche bags.
Congrats xbox on a good review.
So all of you have played with Kinect then right? You know that this is review is full of shit without a shred of doubt? Damn. Jedi Precogs litter this site. I can smell the piss and vinegar of angry fanboys from tabs away.
You gotta love the fanboys here sticking up for Kinect yet they themselves secretly deep down want it to fail so MS go back to hardcore games. Just they are so deep into being a fanboy now they will never admit it..
This is what I don't understand. How can 360 fanboys (who probably dissed the Wii) jump on Kinect with such love and devotion! The hypocrisy is hilarious... PS3 fans slate Kinect without trying it, yet 360 fans claim it is amazing without trying it!! I have a 360, and I'm disappointed with the direction MS is going. And any harcore gamer should also be angry that MS are throwing so much money at Kinect. If the 500million budget is true (I have my doubts) that could have bought 50 Gears of War (Epic stated it cost 10million to make), or 25-50 Uncharted (I believe ND stated that Uncharted 1 and 2 cost a combined 20million). Can any true gamer REALLY say they'd prefer MS to be pumping marketing money in to Kinect - with it's current shovelware game line up - rather than investing in new IP, studios and hardcore games?? I don't want Kinect to fail, but I can't see what all the fuss is about.
Im not sticking up for anything. I have a Wii in my household, and i hate it. And im not getting Kinect unless someone gives it to me for free or no more than five dollars. But, that doesnt mean Kinect will be bad for those who want motion-based gameplay. Some of you seem arrogant enough to think you know all about it already though, which is entertaining.
I would rather wait until its released are the average gamer who hasn't been paid can review it. @disagrees? N4G you confuse me sometimes...
The article stated: "However, CVG understands that the review was based on a hands-on with the kit orchestrated by Microsoft, rather than an exhaustive product test." That should tell you something right there. If this were a bad review, MS would have hushed it before it even made print. Everyone saw how intense they were on destructoid for criticizing peripheral's commercial. And they were just commercials.
I want to see the average Joe use this and then give us his opinion.
The average joe will more likely enjoy it than the hardcore gamer I think.
But why would a Hardcore gamer want this? Unless they want it for a bit of fun? So an average joe should review it.
Users reviews > goody bag 'inspired' reviews. @feelintheflow Well you have to pick and choose eg. Some use posts on amazon "best product i've used in years, the innovative technology....." = spam bot. But if you have a site you trust...obviously not N4G...you go into the forums where semi-civilised people discuss it, and you can figure out the B.S from the truth fairly easily. Gamespot might blow...but the forums there are segregated for each platform and they are uber-moderated so you don't have to deal with A-holes, I actually find people there generally know that the F they are talking about.
This wasn't even a review. This was some guy fapping to the idea of the technology.
We know from metacritic and IGN and the other sites that post user reviews that fan boys on the other side of a product skew the average user review. So then how are we supposed to believe any review other than our own personal opinion?
Agreed. Especially when said review mysteriously comes before the embargo is lifted. Hmmmmmmmmm...
for the inevitable "bu bu bu MS just paid them off" comments.