Heavenly Sword: 10GB of sound FX audio work on the ambitious PS3 game

With 10GB of sound FX, three and a half hours of music, 4,500 lines of dialogue, and an hour and a half of cut scenes localised for 11 different languages, Heavenly Sword is clearly an immense game in terms audio. This piece looks at the game's sound production, with comments form developer Ninja Theory and Sony.

[Evoluti0n]

is a joke.

EDIT: WOW, how I managed to comment on this article, I don't know. But my comment was not meant for this article..although, I can't remember what article this comment was for, ha ha. Sorry fellas, wow, did I get flamed.

@Panthers - yeah, I don't remember what I was going for, lol.

@Torch - Calm down dude, I made a mistake, get over it.

@FigBoy - Agreed

[Panthers]

What did gamepro say? I must have missed that.

[nasim]

garbage box 360 has a DVD DRIVE that can onl hold 7.5 gb of data.

a DVD is not even enough to hold the sound codes of HS

LOL

what a shame MS and ur GBOX 360 with a backdated DVD DRIVE

[Torch]

"Gamepro is a joke."

Thank you allowing us to indulge in your articulate, detailed assessment.

[Figboy]

i'm a huge Playstation fan, nasim, but you are *REALLY annoying.

please stop it with all the anti-MS crap. it's not going to change anybody's minds.

if anything, you should devote your massive fanboyism to something constructive, like informing people of *WHY the PS3 is a great console, while not putting down the other consoles in juvenile ways.

also, this story has *NOTHING, absolutely *NOTHING to do with the 360, and yet you bring it up. why?

as a fellow PS3 fan, i'm imploring you to *SHUT IT. it's not helping.

[MK_Red]

GamePro, I don't think they are stealing but there are a few things wrong with GamePro these days IMO.

[Evoluti0n]

that's the one I meant to comment on, I'm so confused.

But, agreed.

[Shadow Flare]

wow, in the old ps2 days that would've taken up a whole dvd

[Tsukasah]

and that would take up a whole 360 dvd, and a whole wii dvd.... w00 bluray!

[bung tickler]

10gb for 11 languages thats less than 1gb of sound per region, so it would easily fit onto one DVD with ~8GB left over for other crap. this is just a ploy by sony to make it look like the game is too big for dvd... but in reality if the game was released on a per region basis as MOST games are it would fit just fine. im not being a fanyboy im just stating facts, the math is right there for anyone to do 10/11 = 0.9

edit: @below, what do you think takes up more space - 4500 lines of speech or 15 songs and a few kicking sound effects? 90% of the space is the voice acting. so fine i'll give you a whole half a Gb extra that makes it 1.5GB of data per region, still easily fit onto a single dvd using the same compression they currently were. this is nothing more than propaganda. buy into it if you want.

[Adamalicious]

That's some seriously fuzzy logic there. You think that they have different music and sound effects for each region? It says 10 gigs of SOUND not LANGUAGES. Sure they could get that down if they didn't include as many languages, probably enough to fit on a DVD 9 - "fit" being the keyword. It would certainly still be taking up a mess of space.

[bung tickler]

wow, no need to get all angry... i was just pointing something out. region coding really doesnt affect anyone other than people that import games, like jrpg fans here in the us... region free or not to 99% of gamers it doesnt matter. i was simply stating that fanboys shouldnt go running around crying "ha ha i told you so, blu-ray is our savior, this game wasnt possible on anything but the ps3... bla bla bla, yadda yadda yadda" cuz well yeah thats just not the case... no need to get your undies in a bundle. 0.9GB of sound data per region isnt anything to shout about.

[Tsukasah]

On the demo theres like what? 5 different languages? My guess would be they wont change that at all. Either way Heavenly Sword is only possible on the PS3, afterall, the physics use quite a bit of the cell, 1terraflop i believe, and the 360 only does 800gigaflops =)

[DaTrooF]

Can't Wait!

[d3l33t]

Doesn't this help justify Sony's claim to blue-ray?

food for thought

[MACHone]

It's all the justification I need, man.

[cuco33]

why? simple... because 4500 lines of dialogue and 1.5 hrs of cut scenes translated into 11 languages is A LOT of audio. that's what a full movie is like nowadays, 1.5-2 hrs with all the remaining disk space to be used up for all the other languages you don't care for. besides i doubt there's any compression techniques

but there's no doubt this game i think is going to be great. a must buy for god of war and ps3 fans

edit: wow there's a lot of fanboy trolling going on with these types of articles... you guys ever think logically? ever think due to the super slow read speeds of BR there might be a chance that reading uncompressed data might actually speed up the process? i'm not programmer but to me that makes sense and hence why nothing is compressed

to below, hence why i said "i'm not programmer but to me that makes sense and hence why nothing is compressed..." regardless, uncompressed data will always be massive compared to uncompressed. not bashing the game since i think it does sound like a great one. just trying to voice my OPINION on why i THINK (not know) there's so much audio. this will easily be solved once someone gets the game in hand and analyzes is. and let's say it shows the buffered spacer data like in RFOM or that in fact a ton of that space is the other 10 languages you dont use... then what'll be the spin on that?

[Mu5afir]

Talk about using logic, the music / sounds / cut scenes etc.. all take up massive amount of space. You are implying that the VOICE ACTING takes the most space, while the 1.5 hours of cut scene etc.. only takes up 1gb of space?

Use your brain, the different languages at most take up 1gb of space. NOT the other way around.. don't question other peoples logic when your own is flawed.

Oh, and YOU CAN'T READ UNCOMPRESSED DATA FASTER THEN COMPRESSED DATA.

[DrPirate]

It only justifies that: If the space is available, why not bother going all out.

IT doesn't make the game impossible.

[Loudninja]

?What did gamepro do this time?lol

[Loudninja]

it makes you get more into the game.

[heroman711]

wonder if this game will be as good as they say

what did gamepro say ?

[Loudninja]

That would be yes! :D

[heroman711]

i did play the demo and i liked it but was kinda disappointed to see a lady do all these stunts but yet there isnt a jump button. besides that its a good game

[AngryHippo]

this game looks incredible, the demo was awesome, too short though. I guess blue really is needed for certain games, especially this one it seems. I am glad that all first party exclusive games are really taking advantage of the blu ray space, if its there, go all out and fill it up as long as its done for the right reasons, making the game more immersive and enjoyable for the player.

[Ri0tSquad]

God Of War 3 is going to be incredible! Good job Sony!

[AllroundGamer]

because it is uncompressed sound data, no wonder. Wav :)

[Cartesian3D]

and now yes, its one of the Blu-ray advantages..

some devs that Like to make a BIG story ( they have ability too )now can make it happen..

its my Dream , play a game that realy feel like a BIG and LONG movie..

Gj team ninja , everyone knows that how many hours u spent on it .. THX for this unforgetable AAA game..

[Foliage]

Well said.

[snakeak]

They're giving so much attention to every detail. This game is going to be awesome.

[Danega_Sciphor]

no fanboyism, cant wait

[Foliage]

Blu-ray FTW

[TrillHeat954]

This is why Msoft went with a HDMI 1.2 port because 10 GB of sound would never fit on a DVD therefore the ability to pass Linear PCM/uncompressed sound thru Hdmi 1.3 would be wasted capability on the 360

[AllroundGamer]

good point

[Loudninja]

yep

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

we got as much sound, as you have game.

ouch.

BLURAY the NEW storage medium.

Gil.

[riqued]

Heavenly Sword, GOTY?
Good candidate IMO

[Infernus]

I agree. My top picks for possible PS3 GotY are Heavenly Sword, Haze and UT3.

I knew the amount of audio would be a lot because of the great language support for different countries (other than just the European big 5 that games usually support), but wow 10GB is a lot of audio, and yes I know it's uncompressed and so it should be!

[ALIEN]

This game will be a killer app for the PS3. Can't wait!

[Ri0tSquad]

Heavenly Sword is a trilogy and they completed the 2nd part of it(well the script). So if this game does good then we can expect to see Heavenly Sword 2!

[Kastrol]

thank god ps3 has blu-ray and with firmware updates the disc storage is only gonna get bigger

i knew why great games like MGS2 and Shenmue were short games because of disc storage

I live in Europe and blu ray is great for us Europeans because of simultaneous world wide releases big games like MGS4 and heavenly sword come out here the same time as along japan and states

[Sovannah Phum]

i agree that mgs2 and shenmue were great games, however i can't agree that mgs2 was short. i believe kojima designed the game that way. shenmue on the other hand could've been longer but at the time that storage was sufficient i believe. if they were using cds instead of gds i would've agreed with you.

[Salvadore]

10gb of sound... impressive.

[supaet]

honestly, how many of you can take advantage of the 10 gb uncompress surround sound? do you all have an hdmi receiver + 5.1/7.1 speakers?

oh 4500 lines of conversations....tell that to mass effect, one dvd

[riqued]

In a few year most people will have that, you too probably, but then your outdated xbox wont work. =(

[Azures]

4500 lines of convo doesn't mean 4500 lines of spoken dialogue. KOTOR had tons and tons of conversation but most of it wasn't totally spoken.

[Antan]

"do you all have an hdmi receiver + 5.1/7.1 speakers?"

Yes......and to my potential disagreers, no.

[boodybandit]

2 complete setups with 1080p displays and 5.1 HDMI Receivers w/True DD Audio. I never game without it! *thumbs up*

[d3l33t]

almost beats my pr0n collection

[LSDARBY]

Thats awsome, So i take it this game is about 15GB

[Ri0tSquad]

25gb Blu ray disc!!

[zonetrooper5]

You gotta rememeber that all games on the PS3 are region free as well so your gonna have alot of stuff on there which takes up some more space.

[LSDARBY]

Theyre not made to be region free, so the American version wont have french, german ect on there.

[DrPirate]

Hatchetforce, read again, although all Ps3 games are region free, they are still custom tailored for their proper region.

Different boxart, the PAL/NTSC standard resolution, langauges (Specifically says to make sure what languages the game supports before you start importing), and other region specific requirements.

[Shadow Flare]

Come to think of it, wasn't the 5 minute Heavely Sword demo 1 gig?

10 gigs of sound fx + 1 gig of gameplay (the size of the demo) = all the 360 can handle!

Imagine this game on 360:

(brr brr brrrrr *trumpets play music")

Nariko: "Kai, we need to help fath"--

--PLEASE INSERT DISC 2--

[nasim]

tht horrible low powered x360 with 100% defective rate and a backdated DVD player

why are MS still selling the x360

[Infernus]

Shadow that was awesome.

[boodybandit]

That really was a G1!

[aiphanes]

But really think about this peopel 8.5 gigs of total space vs 50 gigs of total space....damn.....the PS3 really is next gen...

I just logged into xbox live checking the movies you can download in HD...and some of them are not in 720P!!! But they are only around 4 gigs for the 720p versions....but 720p is not 1080p.. I would still rather watch the movie on bluray...also when you rent the movie from Xbox live it will expire 24 hours after you start...i mean start to watch it...Why come they can not let it stay for like 5 days like hollywood video, when you rent the movie for real?

[MK_Red]

Holy moly, thats huge. I simply can't wait for this game, it could set new benchmark in many areas.

[JOLLY1]

Oblivion has more voice dialogue, more music, not sure on the sound effects, over 100 hours of play and fit on 8 gigs......also food for thought!

[Shadow Flare]

oblivion also looks the same EVERYWHERE you go.

Trees look the same, the towns are basically the same...it's a huge copy and paste map. Same for Test Drive: Unlimited

A game like Heavenly Sword has incredibly detailed and varied landscapes

100 hours of play doesn't mean anything, you can replay over the same landscape again and again. I must've done 100 hours of play on Calling All Cars already

PS. As a side note, I think Oblivion sucks. In my entire games collection, i have around 70 games. Oblivion is the first game i've ever sold. I only bought it cos of the good reviews and it sucks in my honest opinion

[JOLLY1]

that is really detailed hair. Yes, BOTH games reuse textures. We aren't talking about graphics chief, we are talking about voice. All I'm saying is that oblivion could fit a whole game and more voice in 8 gigs than heavenly sword could fit voice only in 11 gigs....seems lame to me.

[riqued]

@JOLLY1

If HS were a RPG you would be right, but guess what, it isn't.

It has 4500 lines of spoken dialog and thats great for an action game.
The Bluray will also have tons of extras, like the animated series...

Show me an action game in Xbox that gets close to HS...

[JOLLY1]

Ninja Gaiden. That wasn't too hard. It doesn't matter what kind of game it is, lines of dialogue are lines of dialogue. I am correct no matter what you try and say.

[Loudninja]

11 languages,and an hour and half of cut scenes

Edit:Mass Effect reusues the same textures like Oblivion, Lair does not.

[The Swordsman]

That is an impressive amount of sound FX. How much GB will this game be upon release?

[felidae]

good news for TheMART.

He so wants to play Heavenly Sword.

[Double-Edged]

10 gigs of sound??
and they couldnt fix the HAIR???

lame.

[Ri0tSquad]

Until actually comes out but that shouldn't ruin the game experience.

[riqued]

So a fantasy game for you can have big weird monsters, but not a girl with a huge hair?

[AllroundGamer]

i don't think Double-Edged can ruin his game experience, cause he probably won't even play the game :) he is a xbox lover :p

[ApocalypseShadow]

10gigs of sound.not everyone speaks english.not everyone speaks french.but now you can have "ONE" wordwide disk that everyone can enjoy.

you could even keep subtitles on and learn a few words of another language.how cool is that?or if you natively speak italian,listen to it in your native tongue.

i can see it now on 360.play the game on 360 and put the sound cd in your home theater system and hope the sound matches the onscreen action.

bluray--- (+1)
dvd----(-1)

............mag lev super train.............give me my bubble back fanboys.because the truth hurts.

[zonetrooper5]

"Theyre not made to be region free, so the American version wont have french, german ect on there."

No, Sony said that every game will be region free unlike the 360 where each game is region locked. I have a feeling that if you took out all the other stuff which is for other regions then the data would be smaller and guys, don't turn this into a flame war again.

[LSDARBY]

They are region free so they will work on any PS3 system. But like i said the NTSC version wont be the same as the PAL version. i.e. it wont have European languages. And wont contain anything associated with any region outside of NA

[Violater]

please GTFO.
Stop trolling the PS3 games really.

[WilliamRLBaker]

weird....Elder scrolls 4 had what 10,000 lines of dialog, and over what? 3 hours of music, and it only game on an dvd....Ninja theory needs to stop using uncompressed.....every thing...

[Kyur4ThePain]

Developers should just compress the living h3ll out of everything because they don't have space to put it all. Oh wait, they do.

I could fit 100,000 lines of "dialog" into 50kB if you wanted me to.
It would sound cr@p, but I could do it...just for you.

[bung tickler]

well its 10gb for 11 languages... so thats less than 1gb per region. so if they released the game like M$ does, per region, it would be fine, but they are not its all on one disk, this way sony can make it SEEM like there is way too much audio for a dvd when in fact its not.

[Meus Renaissance]

They can. So why not?

[Adamalicious]

Oblivion also had like 2 male voices and 2 female voices for hundreds of different people. I don't know if we should point to that game as the role model.

[MoonDust]

I'm sure they impressed someone.

[TrillHeat954]

you don't need a 5.1 sound system to hear the benefits of 10 gigs of sound........if it sounds good it sounds good no getting around that

[Jack Bauer]

i hope you sony fanbots do realized sony purposly wastes space on their games to make the illusion that bluray is needed...and thats prolly uncompressed... oblivion and all of its audio took less than half od a single layer DVD.

[Kyur4ThePain]

that Sony didn't make this game.

[bung tickler]

sony did fund it though...

[weekapaugh]

"i hope you sony fanbots do realized sony purposly wastes space on their games"

yeah dude, Phil Harrison coded this game all by himself.

[J@D]

That's great. Heavenly Sword it's just way to great. Gameplay wise and the way the music and sound goes... it's just impressive me.

[Shadow Flare]

uncompressed sound is BETTER?

The whole ideal of the ps3 is to provide the best gaming experience. Or as Hideo Kojima put it, 'the xbox 360 is like watching a movie at home on your tv, while the ps3 is like watching a movie at the cinema'

I'd imagine uncompressed sound is part of that

================

And also bloody diarrhea, all this '10 gig into 11 languages means 1 gig of sound' crap is a load of bloody diarrhea. The 10 gig is not solely speech. It's music and sound FX too. That alters ya theory a little don't it?

[JOLLY1]

that possibly, just possibly compression is a good thing. You can compress audio, make it 20% the size and still have great sound quality. By great, I mean not noticable sound degradation (I know that might be a big word for you). The other wonderful thing about compressed audio is.....wait for it......wait for it....it doesn't take forever to load! maybe when the ps4 has a faster drive uncompressed will be a bit better, as of now it slows down load times.

PS heavenly sword uses compressed audio

[hikikimori]

ZACTLY.

Play Warhawk on a decent set of speakers and listen to the amazing sound. (uncompressed)
Then play Gears or Rainbow 6 (ps3 or 360) or GRAW 2 and hear the difference. Compressed sound is sh1te.

[Adamalicious]

OK - all video game audio is going to be compressed somehow. It's how much, or rather how little, that counts. Less is more here in a big way.

[Shadow Flare]

...what the hell are you talking about?

So uncompressed sound takes forever to load does it? No ps3 game i have takes forever to load. The Heavenly Sword demo doesn't take forever to load. In fact its instantaneous. I think its MetaL Gear Solid 4 (which uses a 50gb bluray disc) but that game apparently has no loading screens. As are more upcoming ps3 titles.

"You can compress audio, make it 20% the size and still have great sound quality."

Why would you even do that, you're in an xbox mindset where its all about conserving data.

If you got the space, USE IT

And uncompressed audio sounds better and doesn't affect loading times if a smart dev is developing the game

What would you rather do:
- Listen to your favourite band at a concert
- Listen to your favourite band on your ipod

[ApocalypseShadow]

languages and sound that heavenly sword has and see if it all fits on one dvd.

not going to happen because it's not possible.dvd has limits and can't do it.even with compression.so they leave it out and make different versions.

so they cut and paste beforehand because they can't match bluray.or put it on multiple discs like bluedragon.

have fun switching and have things left out.

it's cheaper to produce "one" disc for everyone for sony.saves money.but then,none of you are businessmen that disagree.

................mag lev super train.............

[CourtesyFlush]

Certainly the audio plays an important role in crafting an immersive experience. I found it interesting that the article was more about the artistry and narrative-enhancing abilities of audio than the technology itself... and nowhere did THEY suggest it could "only" be done on one platform or another.

But I guess what fun is an article if it can't somehow be turned into N4G-napalm.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Come back when you got a ps3 and for fukc sake grow up!!

Uncompressed sound allways sounds better, same with video.

I am the lord of rönsskär, go fukc of xbots!!

[Watkins]

It's gonna rock for sure

[Infernus]

What's all this talk about compression being a good thing? Compression reduces the quality, and the more compressed it is the lower the quality will be. The use of compression is not a very strong defence for the DVD9 format at all. In fact, it just further justifies that a format with a larger capacity is better.

Compression shouldn't be needed, but for DVD9 it is. I don't have to compress files to fit on my laptop's HDD. Why? Because it's got loads of space. If I ran out of space would I compress everything? No, I'd just go out and get a bigger HDD/external HDD, i.e more space. That's exactly what's happening here with the DVD to BD move.

[hfaze]

"edit: wow there's a lot of fanboy trolling going on with these types of articles... you guys ever think logically? ever think due to the super slow read speeds of BR there might be a chance that reading uncompressed data might actually speed up the process? i'm not programmer but to me that makes sense and hence why nothing is compressed"

LOLZ... Talking about thinking logically... Somehow reading uncompressed (larger) files from a drive is faster than reading compressed (smaller) files? The ONLY way that could be even remotely true is if the drive in question had a rediculously slow seek time, and the compressed files were scattered across the disc.

The reason everything is not compressed on a Blu-Ray title is that you don't sacrifice audio/video quality with non-compressed source material. If you got the space, why not use it.

As games get larger and larger, the losses incurred by using compression will become more and more apparent. Either that, or you'll start seeing more and more multi-disc games on DVD based systems... ;-)

[Violater]

Are non pS3 owners in this thread?????

[Makroyale]

In them you'll find something called "lossless" or and the opposite is referred to "lossy" audio.

It is uncompressed audio and yes, it sounds better in a Home Theater environment than... (not going there)

Since the PS3 has up to 50gigs of space to play with, the audio will sound better because it's uncompressed.

Even HD-DVD is having problems competing with Blu-ray in that area because it doesn't have enough space for lossless audio after fitting a large film like King Kong on the 30 gig limited HD DVD disk.

[DJ]

I guess they felt uncompressed audio was the way to go, and I applaud them for that decision. I wonder how much more room the Dialogue and Music segments take up.

The game is about 12~15 hours long, so I'm sure they did custom audio for every section of the game instead of relooping old samples (old samples become REALLY noticeable). I'm sure Ninja Theory is ecstatic over Blu-ray, as are dozens of other notable developers. I am surprised however at the individuals who are skewing the figures and stats given in order to justify the use of DVD-8.5 for the 360. It just seems so pointless.

[Yosking]

10gigs of audio wow! I can't even imagine how much the rest of the game will take, luuckily ps3 has blu-ray. Funny cuz 360 can't make these kind of High Definition games lol Can't wait to see s3xy nariko in HD!

ROCK ON PS3!!!

[Bathyj]

Compression should be M$'s catch phrase. Thats what I'm going to do if another Xbox breaks on me. Run over it with my car and compress it to .65 nanometers.

Compression is what you do when you have no other choice. Its not your first option. Its treating the problem, not curing it.

Is BR needed for gaming? No. Unless you want to make a next gen game.
Is a parachute needed to fly in a plane? No. Unless you want to jump out.

[Shaka2K6]

This is why PS3 exclusive games will always be superior.
this is only possible on PS3.

[solidt12]

Yep, PS3 games will always have better sound for sure because they do not have to compress audio. This is something you can tell now. I notice when I play a PS3 first party title it is alot louder than other games and the sound is great. Bioshock may be an exception, I played the demo last night and the sound and graphics were great. There is no doubt in my mind though that Blu-Ray was the way to go. I hope the next Xbox has a Blu-Ray drive so that they can remain competitive because I love both systems games.

[The Wood]

I was a little ignorant and didn't read all but the last few comments and a few of the early ones earlier today. From what I have read it seems some people still think next gen means having to compromise. I know most cant hear the difference between aac and mp3 on tin pan speakers but if you have the audio system or speakers on your tv that are worth anything you should hate the idea of spending that loot to compromise on the quality of audio. My amp cost the same as a ps3 and I admit want it all not just great viewing but great audio too. I want to be immersed. We are in the next gen era. Sound and visual elements of games and films will reflect this. Am I being unreasonable or being a fanboy for wanting uncompressed sound this gen? geese ive paid enough for my sh*ts why not? the space and technology are available.

[Danega_Sciphor]

play gears on compressed at max volume, it sounds like sh*t, play RFOm uncompressed, dude its the holy grail

hey iceman100x dumbass
if the game is so choppy imagine it on 360:
"Please father dont be a little bi...." (cant reach signal0 <explodes in to 2 hours of gameplay>

[bung tickler]

id bet a $100 you have never even played gears...

[Kaneda]

you have never play Gears w/ uncompressed sound... or textures...

[zonetrooper5]

Ironman 357, your as annoying as nasim, really you are. I'm not hating on the game, it will probaly be good and I will check it out whenever I can afford to get a PS3 and decent games.

[Dogswithguns]

is an awesome, awesome. awesome game. and gotta love the blu-ray.

[jackie chann]

I don't like this game but I like the idea of not having to compress sound.

[bootsielon]

And subtitles. I like japanese with english subtitles, even though neither is my first language.

Blu-ray has been owning XBox 360's DVD9 and HD-DVD so much lately, and it's not even a year since PS3 launched. I wonder what the situation will be during the 2009 holiday for all consoles.

[ben hates you]

is that compressed data

[aiphanes]

When you compress you lose quality..IF you have the space...and bluray gives you up to 50 gigs...you do not have to compress like you do on the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 will never, ever, ever, ever do 7.1 uncompressed PCM sound.

[Funky Town_TX]

at the end of the day that is all that matters. I will have PS3 money soon. I don't want this to turn into another tech demo like Lair. The last I saw of it the enemy AI looked kinda week. GFX are ace, and so is the animation. Fix the AI and I may buy my first Hack and Slash. Go devote 20 gigs to the AI okay.

[DrPirate]

In case you didn't know, the real AI (Everything you've seen has the AI holding back), is impossible.

Sony asked them to send in a copy and send in someone who can beat it to prove that the game can even be done on the hardest difficulty.

There will be challenges in this game, don't worry about that.

[Danega_Sciphor]

any compressed is compressed, it not great at all, ive played gears full blast and imo, RFOM is way better in sound, i make comments with no fanboyism so i cant be yelled anymore, so i dont wanna hear ppl complaining

[vid33nyc1]

Why is this so impressive?Halo 3 has over 40,000 lines of combat dialogue alone.And they have the disc space so there isnt much need for alot of compressing.Sony is always trying to shove this whole Blu ray crap down everyones throat.Oh our tech is better than eveyone elses SEE LOOK.Enough already.

[vid33nyc1]

And IRONMAN if you played gears full blast and wasnt impressed you must have a crappy sound system.