Crysis 2 3D 'more pleasing' than Killzone 3 3D

Upcoming first-person shooter Crysis 2 offers a "more pleasing experience" than PS3-exclusive Killzone 3.

That's according to Crytek boss Cevat Yerli, who described his studio's 3D technology as "magic" in an interview with VideoGamer.com for a special feature on 3D gaming.

When asked if the PS3 version of Crysis 2, which will also be playable in 3D on the Xbox 360 and PC, will offer the best 3D Crysis 2 experience, Yerli told VideoGamer.com: "No, absolutely not.

"In fact, I have heard numerous people say - and I have seen myself - that we have a better 3D experience than other games right now on the show floor. I don't want to mention any names."

[Cloudberry]

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More 3D gaming glory.

I guess...?

[GWAVE]

Well of course Crytek is going to think Crysis 2 looks better.

Y'all have heard of Turn 10, right? Do you trust THEIR PR?

[Nitrowolf2]

yeah the funny part is he hasn't even seen it yet (states in article)
BS i say
until he see's it, he should shut his mouth

[KingPin]

Well duh! what are they expected to do. its not like they can say killzone 3d is way better than our game. i just lol when articles come out about companies boasting their own game. its like no1 else is going to sso they might as well do it themselves.

[dirthurts]

Is Crytek KNOWS visuals. They do some impressive stuff.

[Double Toasted]

Don't they know you can't say things like this on N4G? Sony fanboys go into convulsions and someone has to call a priest to come in and throw holy water on them.

Below: Oops...lets add denial to the many quagmires you Sony fanboys are in bred with.

[n4gno]

Nobody goes into convulsion, sony fans are here to help xbot's fans like you to stop their denial/delusional attitude, and desperates hopes..

you want to believe, but reality is always a deception...than you forget, and believe again all greenberg and microsoft's sites want you to believe.

[huzzaahh]

What I find funny is that Xbox fanboys like you always rip on PS3 fanboys because you think that you are justified in your fanboyism, but PS3 fanboys aren't.

The fact of the matter is, the guy hasn't even seen Killzone 3 in 3D, so he has no reason to claim that his game is "more pleasing" than Killzone 3.

Next time, don't copy someone else's insult. When someone says that you're in denial, don't say the exact same thing back. It makes you look like even more of an idiot.

[dirthurts]

You guys know this is multiplatform right? You can all play it...
It doesn't matter which is better.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I don't see how PS3 Fans will feel uncomfortable in this article.

PS3 is the Only console to do Native 3D along with the PC platform.

More Native 3D Games, better for PS3 Owners, unlike other consoles can't do Native 3D, like Xbox 360.

[redsquad]

Yeah, because, y'know, Xboys fanboys are so cool, level headed, well adjusted and rational when it comes to 'defending' their console...

[Ju]

@Alfa, I guess Yerli didn't make too many friends on the PS3. While they (Crytek) boosting their game will end it all, they haven't proven yet, that they can beat PS3 exclusives. At the same time, they haven't shown any PS3 gameplay - it was always shown on the 360 - and at the same time they say, 360 and PS3 are on par. They tried to hype it on the PS3 as the graphics king. That automatically makes them a target. Why even claim that ? Obviously we would want to see that - E310 would have been a perfect opportunity for them to show it on the PS3 directly going up against KZ3. But, guess who talks but doesn't show ? Crytek.

I personally highly doubt, Crysis2 will be on KZ3's level. I will eat humble pie if it will be. But even theoretically it won't, not based on the info we know. They just don't have PS3 specific code in there which would boost vertex through put nor do they us MLAA or any other advanced tech those PS3 exclusives use. As such, it simply will not reach the technical level of latest (and yet to come) PS3 exclusives. With vertex preprocessing the polycount would massively exceed the 360 version. The MLAA would blow the (even) 4xMSAA of the 360 version out of the water. Neither will happen in the release version. So, maybe we will see some nice lightning and some nice physics (using SPUs), but that'll be it.

I am not surprised, that every time he (Yerli) boosts his game, it sounds like a frontal attack "at some games on the showfloor". No wonder people are getting defensive.

[PotatoClock]

"the guy hasn't even seen Killzone 3 in 3D, so he has no reason to claim that his game is "more pleasing" than Killzone 3."

He actually says he 'thinks' its more pleasing, basing that on what other 'people' have said about it being more pleasing than killzone 3. He doesn't personaly claim that it is, which makes sense seeming he hasn't seen killzone 3.

Honestly, articles like this work so well with PS3 fanboys to get hits. Mention anything bout Killzone 3 and their on here like a shot protecting an generic good looking game.

[gunnerforlife]

im sorry but what hes saying is utter rubbish! killzone has so many things going on at the same time and so many enemies on screen that its just wow.

What I have seen of Crysis so far includes is 3 enemies at a time on the screen, Crysis is all about graphics and even that dosent hold a candle to K3.
i want to have fun when playing a Shooter i want loads of enemies to pop up everywhere so i can go on a killing spree i mean thats what shooters are for mindless fun, not 1 enemy at a time and be bored to death!.

[sid4gamerfreak]

crysis 2 is certainly more pleasing in the graphics department....on the PC

[waterboy]

ps3 and 360 versions of crysis 2, which isnt saying much since crytek has developed longer for pc, also no the pc version of crysis will still sit sadly far under killzone 2

[pixelsword]

What do I care which one is more pleasing? I own a PS3, and I'll possibly get both.

But Crytek 3D makes the PS3 version to get above the PC... If I can get enough coin together to buy that set before the game comes out.

[MNicholas]

in describing the 3D used in Crysis as "concave" then it would require some kind of head tracking.

Here's an example of how concave 3D works. This is just one implementation (wiimote hack) but any webcam with good face/head tracking software can do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The advantages of head-tracking based "concave" 3D is that it doesn't require additional graphics processing power while the Killzone 3 type 3D requires rendering twice as many frames per second and it works on any old TV including your grandma's CRT.

The disadvantages of webcam based "concave" 3D are that it only works for one viewer (other's see distorted views) and it requires the console equivalent of a webcam (such as PSEye, Kinect/Natal, etc...).

[masterg]

It seems like non of the people at E3 thought the Crysis 3D worked. They all said KZ3 was the best 3D of the two.

[trancefreak]

Im buying both and playing it on my non-3d tv. Im not getting another tv for 3d. I have a nice 46 samsung already and i can wait for this novelty.

[cobraagent]

Yerli added that he was refused entry to see Killzone 3 at E310.

"I haven't seen Killzone, to be honest. I wish I would see it, but they won't let me see it!"

So if he hasn't seen killzone 3 yet how can he comment on which is the best game in 3d?

[talltony]

and I doubt kz3 in 3d dissapoints at all.

[Pandamobile]

He's probably referring to how it [KZ3] uses the conventional stereo 3D that has been around for years where the effect is to look like objects are popping out of the screen whereas Crysis 2 is supposedly utilizing a different form of stereo 3D where the effect is to look like objects go into the screen.

He could have said the same thing with any other made-for-3D game, but KZ3 is likely has the most hype surrounding it.

[HungPHAT]

I was at E3 this and KZ3 was playable on the floor in 3D ! Sony 8 TV's to play it on , 4 4 in 2D and 4 in 3D and yes I played the shit out of it ! AWESOME.... so he's full of shit I was right in the middle of the convention center next to Socom 4 which I played also with MOVE controller , that was cool to

[Hacker]

It's Crysis 2 3D baby of course its gonna be better than any other 3D game. Also Crysis 2 is pre alpha lol.

[cobraagent]

and being released this autumn?? He also never mentioned killzone and has actually not played it yet

[T9X69]

So is Killzone 3 though.

EDIT: @cobraagent - SOCOM 4 is still in pre-alpha and its being released this holiday to. Not saying Crysis 2 is indeed in pre-alpha because I don't know but it is possible.

[stephmhishot]

Last I checked, KZ3 is also in Pre-Alpha (clearly seen during their E3 demo). LAWL.

[NYC_Gamer]

yes crysis 2 will look much better on high end pc's..because of the hardware

[waterboy]

7 times, this agree disagree system has really got to go

[PotatoClock]

You think the PS3 fanboys aren't using it to show support for anyone saying crap bout Killzone 3 being "better than Crysis 2" as well?

Its the only way a minority like that can make themselves look huge.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

im starting to hate Crysis 2 and his arrogance and hype

[karl]

me to... we dont even know how good of a developer crytek is..
crysis may be the best looking game to date...(and that is debatable)

but they made it on pc .. there they have no limits..

so many other devs could have made their games look like crysis but they knew sales would sink since not everyone can play it...

conclusion.. i dont know how great these guys are but i bet u that guerrilla games and naughty dog could beat their asses any day if they were making a pc game.

[Nihilism]

I own and have played both Crysis and Crysis Warhead, the videos of Crysis 2 look even better. That is my opinion as a PC gamer. I thought it was going to be gimped due to the multiplat, it clearly isn't. I have sen UC2 on a 1080p TV...it doesn't look anywhere near as good as this does, but we shall see on launch day.

"i dont know how great these guys are but i bet u that guerrilla games and naughty dog could beat their asses any day if they were making a pc game. "

Anyone can optimise a game for 1 platform, which is where 1st party developers get too much credit, it takes true skill to optimise it extremely well for both performance and visuals on all 3 platforms.

How many times have muliplats been sub HD on one console, when they are 720p on the other?

Not only is this 720p on BOTH console's but it runs at 30 frames, and it has 3D on both console's, something no other game has, if anything they are underrated, not overrated.

[huzzaahh]

Honestly, the Crysis 2 gameplay demo at E3 looked liked nothing special. It looks generic, in fact. Not exactly high on my list of anticipated games.

[karl]

well you are making my point

"Anyone can optimise a game for 1 platform, which is where 1st party developers get too much credit, it takes true skill to optimise it extremely well for both performance and visuals on all 3 platforms. "

well thats it... this is their first multiplatform game and it hasnt been release yet..

and my second point is that with PC u dont need to optimize.. PC developers just expect pc gamers to upgrade to run their games

if a pc games doesnt run well in a not so much powerful machine.. its the gamers fault.. not developers... thats how it works with pc gaming

so how can a developer fail in there? they cant .. while on xbox and ps3 they will be torn apart for a low framerate, on pc... its cuz the gamer doesnt have a enough powerful pc

honestly .. pc gamers brag to much.. they are being rip off every year
because there is just no such thing as optimization for them..

well i guess that for crytek we need to wait for them to release their game and see how it really works.. it looks nice for now. but not enough

[DEATHSTROKE-cro-]

" That's according to Crytek boss Cevat Yerli "

LOL , I guess some people expected he will say that Killzone 3 is better ?!

I think Crysis 2 looks good but K3 is better in my opinion.
Helghan looks more interesting than city in Crysis 2.
And guys from Guerrilla said K3 will have snow,jungle and space levels.

[Tachyon_Nova]

So effectively they are copying off the first Crysis yeah? That had snow, jungles, and zero g bits. What's so cool about space combat anyway?

[lodossrage]

What do you expect him to say?

If you want to ask those kinds of questions, why not ask a NEUTRAL source.

[Nihilism]

Of course it's more pleasing, the back of your eye that receives visual data is concave.

There is a reason why they sell curved monitors, they are concave, it allows for a better FOV and more realistic viewing. The perception of the 3d going inwards is natural as it is an FPS...your perception is of the environment beyond the screen.

But SDF will be here shortly to tell you that Crytek is totally wrong and that they know more than the developers.

It seems like the people saying they didn't notice it, or as was rumoured by said SDF were looking for blatant and unrealistic, pop up images, which were not existent as the 3d effect was the depth within the image...as 3d should be.

@Morituri

Wow, do you really not get it, concave, the perception of depth inward in this example...you know, because when we look around we don't see objects pop up in front of our eyes...we see things in the distance...

"we will all be playing on flat screens. "

A concave computer monitor is also flat....but it gives a realistic perception, which it the point of 3D after all...

http://www.solidsmack.com/w...

@kartik21

You don't know how they are doing it, it seems to me more like they render a larger scene in one go and calculate the perception from 2 different angles as opposed to rendering the same parts twice unnecessarily, the parts of the scene that overlap aka most of it, which would explain why there is such a small performance hit when the angles would only need to be 15/15 degrees etc

[Morituri]

Dude, what does concavity have to do with anything? In the console category we will all be playing on flat screens.

[Karooo]

killzone 3 renders 2 images, his version of 3d doesnt.

[Morituri]

Of course it's more pleasing to him, it's the one that's gonna make him richer. Killzone sales will not add to crytek's coffers one bit. Silly pr people.

Actually, why is this a story anyway? We already know what ceo' are going to say before they say it.

[theonlylolking]

What I want to know is. How come Crytek has to talk bad about killzone to make their game look better but GG has yet to do it to them?

[Tachyon_Nova]

Well for one Sony is crapping themselves thinking how much they are gonna have to pay reviewers to say that Crysis 2 doesn't look as good as any of their first party games, and GG isn't comparing because they know they will loose.

The only reason they bring Killzone up is because interviewers do. Think about it, Crysis 2 is the first game in a long time to show what all platforms can do at their peak, so of course it is going to be compared to the current leaders of each platform.

[SSKILLZ]

every time he Trolls on it, it makes me want to buy Killzone3 more.

[Spawn-KING]

Crysis 2 looks average, Haze can go up against it .

[Xfanboy]

Crytek built their engne with it in mind from 2 years ago!! so they probably have the upper hand..

They have been working with consoles since 2007 they are not some new fools who started working with ps3 & 360 in the last 2 months!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

a bit of competition. After all, when they're already in competition with ND and Santa Monica (albeit friendly) then Crytek wont worry them.
At end of the day, there's nothing wrong with competition so long as you can produce the goods to back up your claim.
GG will just get on and do what they do best - strive to create a game that that THEY feel is the best FPS experience out there.

[jaosobno]

Crytek is known for talking shit. I still remember statements like "it's gonna look beter than uncharted 2". And by the looks of it, it's decent, but it doesn't come even close to U2.

BTW: "In fact, I have heard numerous people say - and I have seen myself - that we have a better 3D experience than other games right now on the show floor. I don't want to mention any names." - opinions of imaginary friends don't count.

[Nihilism]

That's truly hilarious, I've heard of selective hearing, but selective eyesight is a new phenomenon altogether. Crysis 2 looks way better than UC2.

[jaosobno]

LOL, please visit your local ophthalmologist as soon as possible.

[Pandamobile]

I highly doubt Crysis 2 will look worse than Uncharted 2 considering the first Crysis still looks better.

[waterboy]

nerds

[Cock4Gamers]

according to people with eyes that have seen both games, Crysis looks a good deal better than Uncharted 2

[Pandamobile]

I'd rather be a nerd than a misinformed child such as yourself.

[Death2494]

why are you posting on a ps3 article when you don't even own a 360. Now I wonder why people are saying the best 3d content they've ever experience is Stardust HD. I'm dang near certain Crysis2 is not in alpha but in beta.

[JayD-1K]

i think the disconnect for people (mostly console owners)is that, while knowing that Crytek is the bees-knees on "PC", some of us have not seen any thing from them on the other platforms.
i chose to wait for the game to come out before passing judgement on what some will say is "unproven" console tech.
one look around N4G and can see why this is a hot topic. one side is using this a "see we can have the same kind of graphics as you" and the others say, "yeah right, i'll believe it when we see it!"
i just hope the game is fun and play/looks good!
but that's just me.

[Croash]

Wait for the game to be released? :/

[Justanothergamer]

Because trollbait articles keep getting approved.

[Starlight]

Sony doesn't let trolls like the Crytek boss see their games cause they'll just shit all over it.

[downwardspiral]

They said that when they saw the presentation of crysis at e3, the huds were only thing that were 3d.

[snp]

Hope that's not the case. Tech progress is good for all, and i'd love to think they've found some way of removing the burden of 3d. But if they're doing a mild, watered down - not really anything like full 3d - version of 3d, and then mouthing off about other products with a proper full 3d effect... well, that wouldn't be cool.

Here's to hoping he manages to put his money where his mouth is and can pull it off (though i am doubtful the thousands of different tech guys working out there on films and games and other 3d tech wouldn't have already come up with it, if there is indeed an obvious 1.5% hit way, which works flawlessly - call me a cynic, but it just sounds to good to be true...)

[hoops]

Oh my...Saying this on N4G.COM will cause SOME people TO EXPLODE LOL

Anyways the one advantage Crysis 2 has in 3D over KZ3 (at least the PC version of it) Crysis 3D will and can be in full 1080p@40+ fps with AA enabled.
This won;t happen with KZ3.

[waterboy]

onscreen and nowhere near as many characters onscreen, and true 3d

[DeathMetal]

than killzone will run at 15fps LOL

[dirthurts]

How many people here will be playing this in 3D?
I know I won't...
So does it really matter?

[iamgoatman]

It's just another thing to brag about, the old "mine is better than yours" attitude.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Awful headline, he's merely relaying what he was told by reporters. This shouldn't be news.

[Xfanboy]

Sorry for you but I will be playing in the 3d on PC!!!
3 monitors for $900

[Veneno]

so what, 3D is cool when Crytek talks about it but not when Sony does? double standards.

[ColossusReaver]

They were also bragging that Crysis 2 would push the ps3 to the limit which was quickly proven wrong as there are lots of exclusive ps3 games that look and play way better than Crysis 2 already: therefore I find it extremely unlikely that they're right about this one either.

[AKS]

LOL at them not letting him in to see it. He's been trying to build his case that his game is the best looking and they just shut him down and say GTFO of here.

[King Hippo]

Mediocre games with overhyped graphics that still can't hold a candle to Killzone 2 or 3's graphics.

inb4bringingPCtoconsolewar

[DeathMetal]

Crysis holds a shotgun to those games and laughs

[Tommykrem]

Oh, shut up and deliver a quality product this time around. They've essentially bashed every good next-gen FPS out there, and the first Crysis doesn't surpass a single on of them so they need to do a lot better job with the sequel.

[SlaughterMeister]

No one cares.