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IGN: Kinect vs. Wii

IGN.com: After a full year of waiting since the original unveiling of the Xbox 360's in-development Project Natal, Microsoft's newly-renamed "Kinect" device has now had a more official reveal -- the look is complete, the branding's in place, and, most importantly, we now know several actual games that we'll be playing on the new peripheral. So, of course, it's time to begin the inevitable comparisons.

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darkdoom30005492d ago

Natal vs Eyetoy would be a better comparison
along with Move vs Wii.

Iamback5492d ago

I cant believe what a bunch of pathetic liers they are, saying they were impressed by MS press!? Are you serious!? If Sony or Nintendo had press like that jokes would be flying left and right. But 300 bucks gift tend to influence your judgment. i called it yesterday that that will happen, i guess i was correct.

BX815492d ago

@ lamback Were you impressed if not care to state y?.

Iamback5492d ago (Edited 5492d ago )

BX81

If you are MS fan and say you were impressed by MS press they you are lying to yourself and me. Xbox 360 is synonyms to hardcore gamers, their press conferences have always been about hardcore gamers, at least 80% of content, this time roles were reversed. Ok lets start. COD game, cool that was good way to start. Yes it is multiplat game but they have 1 month on maps so ok a lot of people play that. Then Rising, probably best demo and that is also multiplat, and we will probably see a lot more on Sony show, maybe even Move support which makes it version to have and even without that MGS fans are on PS3.
Then there was Gears 3, great demo, Fable 3 borring cg trailer, some god of War game from Crytek, trailer was lame used real actors, we learned nothing. Then basically boring stuff begins. SUre some of those xbl/kinect stuff were cool, like voice thing but those are not games. Rest of Kinect presentation was horrible. Bunch of Wii and Eye Toy "me too" projects but i guess you think thats cool. Compared to last year pace was bad, show was much slower and targeted towards casuals.
Difference between Sony fans and MS is that SOny fans would say it was trash, MS fans like anything and everything from MS and just keep on taking it you know where.
They knew they had bad press so to affect judgment they gave free bribe 300$ gifts to every journalist in audience. Embarrassing thing to do. I promose you if Sony did that there would be an outrage. Things like that should be banned. We saw product of that IGN was really impressed which boggles my mind, considering those same guys are so hardcore and trashed Wii and motion games for years but now all of a sudden they want to "Jump in".
Dont ever again ast me to explain my self. I never write BS based on bias, i call it as i see it, SOny, MS or Nintendo.

jsx5492d ago (Edited 5492d ago )

@Iamback: an IGN editor probably makes ~$60k a year, you think $300 is going to sway their opinion? What are you 12?

Iamback5492d ago

I guess you are 12 and dont understand how human psychology works.

UltraNova5492d ago (Edited 5492d ago )

@JSX

Dont try to downplay MS's cheap shot yesterday. IGN editors might make that much money but they are still gamers like us. And gamers will always be excited and ready to play dumb when they get a brand new console for free.

Why do they sent 500 bucks worth of memorabilia with each test code ? Because they are a charity? Bottom line is that MS hits bellow the waistline openly and shamelessly and always gets a free pass to go with it.

jsx5492d ago (Edited 5492d ago )

@Iamback, UltraNova: Wow you two are seriously deluded. Journalists always get free copies to review, look at Walt Mossberg, the dude gets every gadget months before they come out. That's the way it is and will always be.

"Bottom line is that MS hits bellow the waistline openly and shamelessly and always gets a free pass to go with it."

WTF, kid, you're a total moron. Your whole comment is lacking any sign of intelligence. How is giving away your product to event attendees a "cheap shot?" A cheap shot at who, exactly? What a bunch of ignorant children on this site.

UltraNova5487d ago

@JSX Pull up your pants and stop going in reverse bended over like that with MS behind you closing in..

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Time Lord5492d ago

MS have gone from having one of the best E3 conference last year to frankly one of the worst and most embarrassing I have ever seen and I have seen each one since 2002.

vhero5492d ago

Cannot see how bowling can work correctly on Kinect I feel its gonna be frustrating without something in your hand. That being said it certainly looks nice.

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earbus5492d ago

Its been a great day i was stoked with what ms had to offer , getting in bed with crytek very smart move as was it a great day to see SDF in full action defense mode tearing everything down i love it sutch a laugh its the best.

evrfighter5492d ago

im not gonna lie.

it was entertaining. Only apple and sony fanboys can be that amusing. I personally am not intrigued by Kinect or Move though. If I wanted gimmick gaming I would have bought a 3d setup for my pc years ago.

Imperator5492d ago

Can you tell me exactly what you liked so much about it?

Was it the demos of games that had ALREADY been revealed?

Perhaps it was the very laggy Kinect interface and the very annoying presentation of Video chat...

Was it the demonstration of MS' various Wii/PS3 ripoff titles?

I simply can't understand why anyone would actually defend MS. This was far worse than Sony's 2006 conference or any of Nintendo's conferences. Just terrible.

Ilikegames765492d ago

impressed with the way the in-game character in the Star Wars game was moving the player with a little noticeable lag.

fooltheman5492d ago

and movement was on rails...^^

TheAwesomessMan5492d ago

NOw let us say first the is ahead BY ALOT! So if Microsoft is gonna do this they better step up will big. Because Nintendo is just chilaxing with their money. And just cause you gave away free xboxes doesn't mean you made a dent in the Wiis sales. But Microsoft are some gangsters or something see what they do they tryna widen the WW or NA gap between them n Sony. By releasing the system that early. They tallied how many they gave away to keep track. Haha Microsoft I see you.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

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isarai1d 2h ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning7723h ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2h ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde14m ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30004d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger4d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30004d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto4d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif4d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif4d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot4d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast4d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto4d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos4d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo3d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner3d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer9d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole8d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK8d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent758d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM8d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif8d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer8d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin8d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer5d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent758d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer8d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM7d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer8d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused8d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher8d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning778d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay8d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer8d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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