Sony Has Open Net as Kinect Fails to Impress

"Fans and media alike were present earlier tonight as Microsoft decided to go ahead and present their upcoming motion sensor, essentially EyeToy clone, Kinect. Well, it appears that things got very strange very fast and may have just cemented the PlayStation Move’s victory."

[dizzleK]

sony, the ball is in your court now. don't screw this up.

[SOAD]

How can they screw up? They've announced awesome games before E3 so no matter how poorly they perform at E3 they can still fall back on their games.

[cyborg6971]

X were you at the creepy poncho fest? They showed no hardcore games and this is they're show for Tuesday. Ms has nothing as usual.

[Anon1974]

The 360 is a console for the hardcore gamers. There's something like 40 million of them now. While I understand Microsoft trying to appeal to the casual market, I think it's an excellent business move, what isn't a good business move is ignoring your base that's been buying your product up until this point. You've got 40 million users who already own the console, buying an add-on isn't as major a purchase as new users who need to buy Kinect and a 360.

If Microsoft had any sense, half of the games we'd seen so far would appeal to their hardcore audience. The only reason I can think of that Microsoft wouldn't be doing this is that Kinect doesn't work for hardcore games, or they don't think the hardcore would buy such a device. And one or two games isn't going to cut it. Existing 360 owners are going to need some assurances that games are in the works that they'd actually play before they invest in this hardware.

[athlon770]

So you didn't read IGN's review then...

http://games.ign.com/articl...

"At several points the avatars would move before the actors did, ruining the illusion of a real live demo of Kinect. This body-synch debacle makes Milli Vanilli's legendary lip-synch outrage look tame by comparison."

Good 'ol Microsoft, still trying to pull the wool over everyone eyes...well, I guess it worked in your case, no?

[oldjadedgamer]

@darkride66

I don't think it is a mistake for them to switch from the hardcore to casual market. I'm sure they are under pressure from investors to produce a profit. It doesn't take a mathwiz to see who is making the most money this generation.

Is it a mistake to piss off your hardcore fans? Yes, but if they thought they could make the next wii, I'm sure they don't mind casuals over us.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Not only the sync was still considerably off and lag was present, but also I haven't seen anything not possible on Eye... Specially Kinetic Sports and Kinectimals already exist in PS2/PS3 as EyeToy Sports and EyePet.

The only maybe techinical impressive game were the dancing game, that if the character were following you... Which actually doesn-t look like to be the case... Looks like the character is doing the moves so you can mimic it and even so appears the game rewards the harmonix guy for doing many moves incomplete, out of sync and totally wrong... I can be wrong through.

And ESPN... Well... If you are into sports I believe it is good news, but with internet on the level it is today, this isn't a game changer... They actually were better promoting kinetic as a hands-free remote than promoting it as a gaming controller... But coming as a freebie for gold members sounds good considering MS usual stuff... At least it justify better those 50 bucks.

I'm afraid to say the high point in MS E3 was MGS Rising gameplay (looks a lot like Afro Samurai and that's really cool, but also it screams spin-off... snake in my ass, more like cut your way in!).

For already announced titles, they had a good selection of exclusives. Halo Reach trailer made me want to come back to Halo.

The new 360 looks cool, but I will wait and see if this turns out to be more reliable than its predecessor. For 150 bucks with a big HD it's a steal, maybe I just jump before next year. And what's up with the media buy out at the end? I wish I had that kind of money to handle consoles around or could at least been there to get one for free... LOL

So far Microsoft did average to good in my book, they had better E3 before... No Kinetic gameplay of Ghost Recon or any hardcore game at all, only one new gamepad normal game exclusive announcement (the Crytek one), too much focus on non gaming features ...

I'm afraid Sony can go the same way if they focus too much on Move and new PSN service(s). This looks to be one of the best year for gaming in years but still companies may be missing the point with the motion control thing.

[Aquanox]

Failed to impress? lol ...

Ohhh... playstationlife.net.

Watch the MS conference and think again. The thing is absolutely impressive. My no gamers relatives were totally blown away.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

You relatives should have loved the PS2 then...

Kinectimals
http://www.reevoo.com/decid...
http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/...

Kinect Sports
http://www.geekculture.dk/b...

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved
http://www.playstartgames.c...
http://www.pwned.com/gameco...
http://ps2.guias-trucos-jue...

Kinect Adventures
http://wpcontent.answers.co...

Dance Central
http://img224.imageshack.us...
http://i34.tinypic.com/50mr...

Kinect Joyride is the only game I don't remember a EyeToy similar...

Inovation my ass.

[NY_State]

Oh God Christmas has come early! lol

from athlon770 link http://games.ign.com/articl...

Patch: 11:48pm Sunday - Kinect reveal. Look, it has to be said: that was one of the single biggest cluster****s I've ever seen at a games event, hands down. With the eyes of the world on Microsoft, it decides that the best course of action, for whatever profound reason, is not to truly unveil much of anything. Instead, the audience is assaulted with a strange and shambolic mess of pretentious garbage, muddy messaging and glimpses of very uninspiring games. Good lord.

[NaViTo]

That's impressive too:

[Aquanox]

Which one of those games could be convincingly played with your body? Everything seen so far have been failed attempts until Kinect, which make something 1 yera ago we thought could only be done in futuristic movies into reality.

Come on guys, wake up and smell the coffee, throw away the fanboyism and appreciatte what the future in gaming is.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

"Come on guys, wake up and smell the coffee, throw away the fanboyism and appreciatte what the future in gaming is."

Pre-recorded bullcrap for us to try to follow and sync? It was the only thing to be appreciated at MS's conference...

And EyePet (european camera only version), EyeToy Antigrav and EyeToy Kinetic have EXACTLY the same controls and concept of Kinectimals, Kinect Adventures and Your Shape: Fitness Evolved, respectivelly, based on what we have seen.

"Which one of those games could be convincingly played with your body? Everything seen so far have been failed attempts until Kinect"

All of those could be controlled with your body, that's how the camera thing is supposed to work. duh... And don't even try the convincing part, nothing so far has been worse or better than Kinect, simply because we still don't know it it works! Pre-recorded crap and too much lag in Your Shape (the only thing that looked like it were actually being played) aren't exactly convincing for me.

[Godmars290]

Think its going to be about Sony following in the wake of damage control MS now has to do. Sony could win their presentation on non-Move titles, but its those same titles people are going to be looking as non-Wii clones.

[Killzone3Helghast]

... win for Sony

it will be like an overkill fatality rip your head off move in Mortal Kombat but by the mighty KB himself

he is god... you cannot deny it

[PLAYstar]

Kinect = KinkAct

[sikbeta]

Sony will not Screw this up, Games are the only thing that matters, now that Sony Unveiled The Sequels, it's Time to Show the New IPs and more info about those games announced last year like TLG and Agent....

[Godmars290]

Well apparently many think KB will make or break their presentation.

[LukaX23]

I laughed so hard when I saw the photo of Kevin Butler using the PlayStation Move!

[secksi-killer]

i dont like playstationfanboystyle.net one bit. a site that writes pure hit getting trash imo. and can someone enlighten me, because i thought the natal/kinetic (what a crap name lol) presentation was today ??

another great piece from a crappy site!

how about showing us some kz3 or gt5 instead of your crap fanboy blogs

[AssassinHD]

There are so many ways in which you are wrong in your comment. PSLS is the best PlayStation centric site out there in my opinion, bar none. I don't understand how you can say that they write "pure hit getting trash".

Let's look at their 10 most recent articles:

"Gameloft announces PSN exclusive"

"E3 2010 Press Conference Times"

"Move charging dock unveiled"

"Gran Turismo 5 E3 gameplay surfaces"

"Assassin's Creed: Bloodlines E3 trailer sneaks in"

"Pirates assemble Armada of the Damned trailer"

"E3 releases FIFA 11 Personality + Video"

"Tech expert claims PS Move is more precise than Kinect" <---Quote from a BBC tech expert.

"Exquisite Crysis 2 gameplay screens"

"Top artists to be featured in Activision's upcoming games"

^^^^^

Those articles are examples of actual gaming news, unlike what one might find on this site. This site is made up mostly of pixel counting comparisons, opinion pieces, and top 5-10 lists. Oh and let's not forget the cosplay babe of the day.

There was only one article in that list of their latest 10 articles that could even remotely be considered "hit getting".

Did you know that there is also an Xboxlifestyle.net owned and operated by the same person?

PSLS is a good site, run by good people. Period.

[LinuxGuru]

@ AssassinHD

QFT

[RamoUP]

i agree with u .. i headed over to the site and all u c is them bashing the xbox calling kinect an eyetoy clone lol when eyetoy wasn't even successful on ps2 .. idc man i own all systems im not a fanboy but psls has to chill with the bashing

[nycredude]

Dude Kinect IS an eyetoy clone. Anybody who has seen the or used the eyetoy knows it. Why are some people stil in denial. MS's conference proved it.

[darren_poolies]

Hahaha thanks for that, it was really good, if you meant it in that way. :P
'the BALL is in your court', taking the mick out of Microsoft's red ball game for Kinect(Natal sounds so much better)?

[morkendo]

begins in 17 min. LET THE Excitement Begin!!!!!!

[Honky Kong]

you gonna become an xbox cling on?
get a job.

[evilmonkey501]

http://i49.tinypic.com/x5y3...

[sniper-squeak]

sony have done right by going from "controller" to "motion controller", MS went straight from controller to "motion sensing". It's always sensible to have "a road on your bridge to success"

[huzzaahh]

Big red balls, to be exact.

[LordMarius]

Whoa whoa lets not get ahead of ourselves, MS still has a press conference to do in which Im sure we will se much of Kinect. The last event was just to produce a very elegant commercial nothing more

[Arnon]

Thank god you actually saw the premise of this. The entire thing was basically a commercial for Kinect.

[JD_Shadow]

A very, very strange commercial which didn't say one damn thing and left a lot of people very uncomfortable.

The "crying baby" seemed to grow up and have one huge ass family if that was all an infomercial.

[Christopher]

Pretty much, Marius. I think everyone wanted to see more, but it was hard not going in knowing that the target of this wasn't the hardcore audience and focus on releasing specs and complete game lists. Would have been killer to see some new capabilities shown, but just didn't happen.

P.S. I preferred the first version of your avatar rather than the sequel version :p j/k

[madpuppy]

Less Animatronic Elephant, more ACTUAL demos and allowing the press to actually use Kinect.

[Raf1k1]

I hope MS's conference today is good. I want to see new games but I'm expecting lots of Kinect stuff.

[razorc03]

You need to better than this if you want to get my attention.

[MegaPowa]

Since you are posting here.

[SonyNGP]

And then N4G is gonna be filled with 3DS and Zelda news.

[mrv321]

Kevin Butler atleast has stuff to point fun at and go 'PEW PEW PEW'

[Gothdom]

of course, he came from the future to tell us

[decimalator]

Kinect 4!

[lomion5]

Love it.

[orange-skittle]

Is that the best punchline you can come up with? Do explain how 4 plays a role in your joke(example: LEFT 4 DEAD, FABL3, 2 Fast 2 Furious, Teen Wolf Too) There was no thought to your stupid ass joke.

[Pillville]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[travelguy2k]

not a video game but a game you play on a table....

[MegaPowa]

Its a joke stop taking this so seriously you look like a bunch of angry nerds

[GarandShooter]

HAHAHA, self pwnage at its finest.

[Pillville]

I was just explaining the joke to @orange since it seemed like he had no idea what Connect Four was.

[stuntman_mike]

@decimator

hilarious.

@orange-skittle

talk about owned yourself lol.

[jaredhart]

the dots

[spoiled9]

state of kinect-it-ket

thats what comes to mind.

[frnkyl]

orange-skittle, you're a dumba$$. That is all.

[Ch1d0r1]

FIFA world cup or MS press event? Real vs Staged... i guess ill be watching soccer

[ATLGAMER]

I have been hard on Natal....No wonder they never showed it....because it looks like it actually sucks...I said it first ...yet you wont recall

[Sarick]

Taking into account the general population interest and logic, (not the tech heads, hardcore or knowledgeable people) Microsoft has been very effective selling ice to the Eskimo.

They happen to do really well at convening the average person who isn't well versed in technology that they need the product Microsoft is selling. *Take note*, if your reading this post as member of N4G this excludes you. We invest more time reading about the industry. The people that fall into the category I listed above as general buy mostly what their friends, employees at gameshops and commercials tell them is popular.

[branchedout]

An agree + bubble for this intelligent post, actually.

[DeathorGlory9]

Have they even shown any games that even remotely cater to the hardcore like they promised?

[saint_john_paul_ii]

no.

[MegaPowa]

just wait and see.

[Moac]

why do people put a disagree on DeathorGlory9? He just asked a question, a legit one.

Dear god, some fan-boys have lost all sense of reality.

How can you disagree with something that is not a biased statement?
Its FACT. They haven´t shown any games for Hardcore gamers.

[McValdemar]

Presentation is not over.
That was just an elegant way of introduce the "controller".
Let's see especially third parties offering.

[wicked]

Would you want to play hardcore games with a motion control, I know I wouldn't. I tried RES4 on the Wii gave up after 10 mins, never put the disk in again. Even watching the Secom 4 demo with Move, the guy had to sit so still, trying to keep the accuracy on screen. I think I will stick to the normal controller.

[starvinbull]

Can't please some people. Only Sony could be criticised for being too accurate.

[blasian]

Everyone had to put on white robes?... really...

[littletad]

This was done to prevent interference? Either way, yeah, sounds pretty stupid. And the pic of Itagaki in one of those is priceless. Gaming hall of shame for sure.

[madpuppy]

glowing effect when they turned the black lights on. everything about that
presentation was about flash and no substance from what all the reviews about it say so far.

[SoulAssassin808]

N4g = fanboy world

This article is a perfect example

[ATLGAMER]

N4g= The perfect place for delusional xbox cry babies who wont see Natal suck and cries about it all day long and still buys xboxes every 6 months after RROD

edit: Yes I am being over dramatic

[Socrates]

N4G, the home of droves of delusional PS3 fanboys. Like ATLGAMER, for example. My 360 has never had RROD, sorry to burst your bubble little fella.

Also, I haven't seen any evidence that Natal sucks. We frankly haven't seen enough. It's true some were disappointed with this particular presentation, but that doesn't equate to Natal sucking. Personally, I don't expect much from Kinect or Move or 3D or anything like that. But I still think it is utter biased bullsh#t to claim "Natal sucks" based on this casual showing.

[Honky Kong]

i notice every time someone posts with any kind of sense, he/she gets so many disagrees...
the comments on n4g are really getting way too childish... retards

[jaredhart]

to know the Kinect reveal was a joke.

I have both consoles and can't help but to laugh.

[stonecold1]

go sony go

[Honky Kong]

m$ failed, go nintendo go

[xg-ei8ht]

White robes isn't a good thing in america.

[Graey]

very nicely done....LMFAO at this one. :)

[squallheart]

i wouldnt be caught near a white robe o.o

[Honky Kong]

cause in about 10 secs your gonna spill chili and soda all over your fat tits!

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

ouch!

oh that hurts!

[madmonkey0]

http://cache.gawker.com/ass...

[kanedaakira]

hahaha - great image

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

PSLS - Keep up the good work.

Where the FRICK is Sev right now?

[user9422077]

He's on the plane to E3. :)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Lol. Oh yeah. He told me he was going. :) Bubbles, man! I wish he'd just text me all the news though.

[Aphe]

Add this event to the E3 Hall of Shame archives. Wtf were they thinking?

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

yea I'm sure theyre saving the real kinect stuff for the real conference but heck they coulda told ppl first instead of getting ppl's hopes up. Now kinect has left a sour taste in ppl's mouths.

I'm still betting Move owns this.

[fooltheman]

why have an separate event on the camera-thing... if the real deal is today?
Because the real deal about the camera was yesterday...

[Why o why]

are doing MS

[Ult iMate]

Is that MS for Mirrors and Smoke or am I Missing Something?

[Dayngls]

ha failed to impress...no shock there

[ForzaGT]

proven right that natal/kinect was all gimmick

[asgharagha]

it seems there was a very rediculous presentation of kinect

[Halo_Reach]

ahaha

[McValdemar]

C'mon...
...Natal is just what we were expecting.

It didn't fail.
It simply doesn't appeal hardcore gamers.

But how can you say "move vins" when it is a blatant copy of Wii-Mote?
At least Natal offers a different control system.

Please stop these fanboy articles from coming.
:(

[Socrates]

Exactly.

[Karlnag3]

If you honestly think the Wii-mote was the first controller of it's kind then I suggest you do some research.

[fooltheman]

It's because many people thought it would show other things than wii-clone titles...
So did Move get bashed too, but with Socom 4, there is more interest...

[aaronisbla]

perhaps you 360 fans who are sticking up for Kinect should wait till its all said and done before you run damage control, if it turns out as bad as people who were there said it was, i assume you wouldn't want egg on ur face

[Jdoki]

Space Poncho's FTW!

http://twitter.com/#search?...

[GenerationWinner]

man the sdf are going crazy today lol. If any of the vids have not impressed you then you are lame and a close minded fanboy.

Cant wait to move about the dashboard with my hand yeeeee that is friggin cooool.

[Jdoki]

It's pretty disappointing that the most exciting thing people can say about Kinetic is that it can be used to navigate the dashboard!

Not sure I want to pay $/£100+ for something like that.

It seems to me that people were disappointed with the Kinetic event because MS faked the performance. MS got a free pass with the Milo thing last year - but it seems the press are less forgiving this year.

I have no doubt that the proper Kinetic event will be better, but it seems there's a lot of deluded 360 fanboys around after last night's show.

[the-show-stopper]

i thought this was suppose to be thier proper Kinetic event
this is why they have the two conferences right?
i mean wat was the point of showing off Kinetic at its own conference or event and not showing it off properly then wait till the big conference to show it off properly

[123360]

they want move,MS needs that style of controller but sony says see patents and pending.green turd cries and they take him away complete with white coat.

[greatjimbo78]

WAT!

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Sony this is your time to shine so do what you do best and DESTROY YOUR COMPETITION!

[Greek God]

they already did

[ChronoJoe]

Eh, at least Sony are pushing Socom with move support, so at least that's one full game, which isn't suited towards casuals... guess you couldn't even play an FPS with Natal though, there's a reason Nintendo and Sony passed Kinect up, and I'm sure there glad they did.

[Newtype]

You could say the same about LBP, it has hardcore elements to it.

[Denethor_II]

Its fine, I've already been assured by countless fanboys that Natal/kinect is the future:) All M$ have to do is put their live E3 conference on a channel like say, oh I don't, MTV or something. That's sure to draw a lot of false hype. Not to mention unwarranted.

[creepjack]

Yeah, this article isnt completely one sided at all. Nothing to see here, unless you are a raving fanboy idiot. "essentially an Eye Toy clone", LOL, freaking moron.
Natal is less of an eye toy clone than Move is a Wii Mote clone.

[washingmachine]

ms should know that this tech without an actual controller is gonna flop,sure it will sell but it will be more of a novelty cause you can really control an action game or fps,only games special made for it. how could they have gotten it so wrong tho lol.

anyway,im not really gonna buy move ither,till after there are games that are cool enuff for me to actualy buy it,although i do like the one fighting game with the sword and sheild,that could give you abit of calorie burning for us that dont really burn calories hahaha

[divideby0]

LOL...MS surely served up a meatball for Sony....If Sony does not totally dominate this show....its their show to lose now

[NYC_Gamer]

MS didnt really have faith in kinect or they would of streamed the event live...

[ironmonkey]

so far so bad for ms. people want to interact, not watch.

[techpinger]

Sony are going to crush Microsoft.

[renegade]

Enough with emotion control BS and talk about games.

[hoops]

What the f*** was MS showing? LOL
Well MS had its chance to wow people with Natal...they blew it imo and the opinion of others. From what I have seen from all that they showed its plain Ass.
MS has tried so hard to rip off the Wii with money in their eyes and the hopes to take marketshare from them, that they failed so hard.
Natal might get marketshare from the Wii but god at what expense? MS has dropped to a new low

[greatjimbo78]

Love to hear your opinion on Move then? Because surely the same applies to Sony as well.

[WLPowell]

Natal has wii-sports, wii-fit, and just dance... again they sunk low.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

After seeing kinect... I am starting to think it is boo boo. If sony delivers a stellar star wars game I may pick up a ps3 this fall. I still hate that damn little controller. But, the move is nice substitute.

[orange-skittle]

E3 hasn't even started yet(3pm) and the dumb asses have already started with their nonsense? What have you seen? You haven't seen shit yet just like they haven't, so sit the f*ck down and wait for the official press conference. You're going off a pre-E3 presentation party. Of course they are not going to display their games before the press release. All the journalist are reporting the same thing. Look at the news this morning on here. They all have the same stories because they have nothing to report except what was shown last night. Grow the fuck up. Microsoft doesn't even start until 6pm tonight.

What's there to disagree about? Do you people disagree because the option is there? It's a fact, Microsoft's presentation is @6pm and E3 doesn't kick off until 3pm...period

[DeltaZ3R05]

man i want to see some Agent real bad and hopefully they announce Demon's Soul's 2
omg the wait is killing me.

[fr3d0]

the irony is delicious

[NoFanboyZone]

God you Sony fanboys are dumb, do you seriously just believe everything you read or hear from other fanboys, and do you realize that REAL gamers laugh at you.

[bahabeast]

i don know if mabe microsoft still waiting to show something good but only ting i see iz bs the best of kinect/natal if where you can navigate through the menu and voice rec and i havnt even seen that in action but as far as games i dont know i thought after that showin they would blow everyone out the water but no they didnt just made everyone more confused and ehem that show was pre recorded thats why the people was following the on screen characters why didnt they do some regular motions and let the characters follow them hate 2 say it but microsoft and alot of americans is soo full of it cnt believe how much they hype thier selves but in reality japanese wud blow out of da water thats where real tech iz created and sold to america so they feel like they are first 2 ever create it im still waitin for microsoft to do something but i think they shud just use kinect/natal on pcs and tvs get it away frum games will fail.

[Captain Tuttle]

Well if Playstationlifestyle.net says so...

[solidt12]

I cant wait to see MS conference today. I am hoping that they show something that will make me want to buy a Kinect. Im already sold on Move, now lets finally see what Microsoft has.

[hiredhelp]

Kinect-4
Kinect-me up
Kinect-a cable
Kinect-tion isnt very good
Kinect-to what!!
Kinect-IS THAT EVEN A WORD!!

microsft MOVE" over ps3 1. 360 0.

[mastermindnate]

i quit coming to this site for a while.. thought id give it a try again given its redesign.. but now i'm remembering why i quit.. the headlines are driven by fanboys.. i dont give a shit about your opinion. Its really cool that you spoon your game console at night.. whichever it might be.. I dont read news for opinions. i read news for news. announcements. etc..

can we get some professional journalism here... please. pretty please.

[rubixCubos]

I've got a massive feeling that Kinect will bomb.

[hiredhelp]

CONFIRMD!! THE WORD 'Kinect' IS NOT A WORD. i have just looked it up even on msn microsofts very own dicionary to find nothing not in english dictionary eaither.
I ACTUALLY LIKE THE WORD NATEL NOW!!

[NoFanboyZone]

Gee that's funny, I guess all the people praising it last night were just all in our imagination. I hate both sides of this fanboy war, but I have to give credit to the Sony fanboys. You guys are the most brainwashed out of them all. You guys are drooling over a wiimote, something you bashed years earlier.

You guys are seriously all kinds of pathetic.

[Henry Cain]

Sony is going to blow the doors off e3.

[Jason143]

The showing was really bad, even for microsoft.

[NoFanboyZone]

This article is nominated for the biggest piece of BS fanboy crap of all time.

Way to ignore the facts Sonyboys!

Seriously to deny how cool Natal can be is just nonsense. Are all you guys 5 years old?

[WLPowell]

MS denied how cool Natal could be with their 2 day presser... We simply watched "teh greatest thing evar" devolve into a "wii library on the 360 eyetoy! Brought to you by Microsoft!" event

[xxLuckyStrike]

is obvious ps3 fanboy fodder and pure fantasy. This article was designed to get hits from ps3 fanboys as they are fueled by jealousy and hate. They overrun and infest every anti 360 or Kinect article.

[olLANDSHARKlo]

It's from a playstation fanboy site, LOL, sony always gets real scared this time of the year.

[Xander756]

Yeah Circe de Soleil is stupid, I don't know why MS got them to do some weird presentation.

[JonnyBigBoss]

How disappointing. Why can't Microsoft show their confidence in the product and NOT pre-record the show while attendees dress like KKK.

[Meryl]

the thing is sony has already showed off ps move everywhere and it's already known as the most precise controller, so now kinectic has not impressed ps move can truly shine for what it is - the next step in motion gaming, the actual motion control solution that works, with hardcore and casual games to boot:):)

[prettyboy1]

is beyond me but last time i checked it was about the games not sum gimicky wii wannabe.and to the blind sighted people calling this site fanbois u should do some research first before u try to call someone out.it tends to make u the more fanbois.peace and gaming

[JumpNPlayBon]

3 pages of comments and he's a no show. One of MS biggest supporters on this site and he's a no show when they finally show what they have, which is NOTHING. All these bozo's kept saying was " wait for E3, MS is gonna blow your socks off". Where's it at? Now all you hear is " wait for a little while, they'll have more in the future besides Wii clone games".

News flash, I don't want to wait 2 or 3 years for what they are billing as right now. Everytime 3d is mentioned you boys jump at the chance to say there is nothing out to support a 3d tv's, but you're willing to wait 2 or 3 years for what "might" come? hypocrites

Time to wake up and jump off of the MS boat ride gamers, they want your money not your undying devotion.

and note to all that respond, not once did I mention Move. Why? Because I don't give 2 craps about Sony's cash grab either, so try and reply without bringing up another piece of crap to justify whatever it is you bozo's say

[aaronisbla]

i think its a little unfair to label Alpha as a big supporter of MS. He has the system but to call him that would be unfair, he's pretty vocal on something if it sucks ass

[aaronisbla]

oh wow, so much trolling from one side, so much damage control from the other, THIS.IS.E3.WEEK!!!

[REDHULKSMASH]

Kinectd, natal, naval , it all sucks. Now we know why you changed the name. Hoping to confuse us Joe Meatballs into buying your crappy motion connector? Better change the name, the word is out kinect sux.

[WLPowell]

the 360 eyetoy comes with just dance!!!!!

[finbars75]

Im watching xbox show on spike and its a fucking joke.Casual games with boring games and very laggy.I cant believe they would even put soemthing out that doesnt work.Say bye bye MS your gone to the bottom of hell with this crap.

[MadMan00]

What the fuck are you talking about? Laggy? Making up shit too? Pathetic.

[finbars75]

Every time they did anything natal or should I say Kinnect there was lag in every movement.He would move left it would take half a second before it caught up or the avatar would jump and he wasnt jumping or when they did the dance crap it never kept up with a thing they where doing.How pathetic can u be to actually defend crap like this.The only time kinnect worked is when someone moved extremely slow.My favorite is when she was doing the stupid car game and she would move one way and it wasnt even folloing her movement or when she turned around and how log it took the car to catch up.Your sir need to move on and get some glasses. Im not dissing this because i own all three consoles im dissing the technology that doesnt work.It will be all right madman00 mr sadness because xbox took technology that no one else wanted and try to make it work which could never really be fixed. If MS had spent more time and money on this thing instead of blowing it on timed exclusive crap and games that are mutliplatform then this Natal would of been genius and awsome but it shows where MS really wants to go.

[MysticStrummer]

Every single hands on with Kinect I have seen mentioned lag. Wake up.

[divideby0]

If sony cant dominate E3 even, after watching the MS stuff so far...
I would like to smash my PS3

[hoops]

Should be easy for Sony to beat MS this E3. They showed hardly any games we did not know. It was all Natal. Which for MS is what they planned. Natal is going to sell buckets loads to moms and grannies. Hardcore gamers get screwed

[ReBurn]

Well, considering the source...

But I digress. We'll have to see how things go over the next couple of days. MS hyped this thing. Now they have to live up to it.

[ThaNewDealer]

Unfortunatly this generation Sony can never miss an opportunity to an opportunity but this is their chance to prove that PS Move is not a Wii2

[Gobuz]

Just watched the whole MS conference and to be honest i expected better from MS. What a load of shit, the only thing close to impressive was GEOW3.

Sony is gona bring the pain hammer down on MS tomorrow...

[PXSausage]

My early feelings that this would be a very unexciting E3 have been true so far.

[Shendow]

Microsoft said that Natal/Kinect would be able to play games like Halo and all. So far all we have seen is Wii games with the word change to Kinect (Yeah).

The having a wild animal for a pet game is about the only Kinect game I would get for my gf. Dance Cental looks good but I don't know and Forza's -_- lame.

All this talk about Kinect could do alot and I don't even see you using a gas pad or use your foot like you are using one (No brakes to).

So until I see something better, all of their games but the two I name are pretty lame. I will say the Your Shape looks kind of cool but not a game for me.

[Odin777]

I don't even think your girlfriend would like the animal game...unless of course your girlfriend is 8.

[Shendow]

My gf likes anything cute -_- which is bad and if that is the case, my 26yr old gf acts like a 8yr old.

Which I wouldn't say that isn't close to being true.

Anyways if its cute, she loves it and she isn't the only girl I know that would kill someone for it (An I do mean kill).

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

im an xbox fan and have to say the show sucked and i don't have any intrest in the Kinect stuff.

[JAMurida]

lol, after watching MS's conference, I'll have to say it's on Sony and Nintendo now to see which one comes with the best presentation. I think the only thing I found interesting at MS's conference was MGS Rising (which is multiplat) and the new design looked nice.

But overall, I personally wasn't impressed at all. Natal, or w/e you wanna call it, now didn't impress me and I expected more from them then just what was shown. I also didn't like how it was 20% of the show was games and 80% was Natal. It really seems that they are starting to lean more toward the casual now then the hardcore.

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ya says it all.

[WLPowell]

"Kinect failed to impress" wherever you go it's true. Hell they were being nice in just saying "it failed to impress" IGN said it was "a clusterfuck"!

[Senden]

After seeing that dreadful E3.. I tend to agree eventhough this article writer is clearly a fanboy.. the ball is in sony's court.. lets play ball! Seriously though.. pretty much no new games to get excited about.. should have saved gears 3 announcement or at least something.. instead they show a real life trailer for something that I don't have a freaking clue about nor do I really care.. their only saving grace was their bribe at the end which if anything, just makes me even more mad.

[Xfanboy]

Written by A Playstation site?? of course!!!

[dorkyfresh11]

doesn't prevent the article from being right...

[stuntman_mike]

Dont forget your space ponchos on the way out. lol

[Morituri]

After following the MS conference, I must say that this e3 is Sony's to lose. Nothing really bowled me over. Lots of games that we've seen already. Seems like kinetic will be more for casual gamers and media functionality intergrated with the console. I must say that the new design looks good though, and finally it gets wifi included. Good value overall I'd say at 299.

[chiwoo]

you can go get a Ps3 slim for the same price with more Features plus the amount of games coming out this year and next is a good time to get a Ps3

[ssbains]

nuff said

[ironmonkey]

kinect lol god awful. you all know what happend to the hd dvd. kinect will fit right next to it.

[ColecoVision]

I favor the 360 over the PS3, and would like to have seen more of an exciting presentation from Microsoft. However, it doesn't really matter what I think of the whole E3 thing.

Bottom line: As we get closer to the holiday season, Microsoft is going to put on a huge advertising blitz with their Kinect and somewhat the 360 slim. The Kinect is going to make it's rounds on the networks (morning and night). The Kinect will be marketed for the casual gamer for the most part. Commercials for the Kinect and 360 core system will most likely be bundled together for $299.99. They should however be bundled between $199.99-$249.99. I don't really care for this thing, because I'm a 1st person shooter guy. My top games so far: Halo Reach, Killzone 3 and Crysis 2.

It's nice to say you "won" E3, but that's as far as it goes. Comic Con is next, and all 3 will be there with big displays showing off playable games... Can't wait.

[malmario]

the second half of that conference was like nintendos conference in 2008, long and uninspiring

[chiwoo]

i would rather go watch the 2008 Nintendo conference all over again then see Microsoft 2010 conference.

[Sarobi]

i cant believe what i saw today by microsoft, i was waiting to see microsoft give it their all to blow away people but all i seen was some pretty lame kinect stuff and a redesigned xbox that was leaked way before air time..

seriously i can't help but to be disappointed for Microsoft, atleast we can still look forward to a very promising Sony conference and i guess a semi interesting Nintendo one,

[auen1]

sony just has to avoid whiffing

[TunaCanoe]

saw that coming a mile away lol

[Sikct9a]

Did MS forget to mention any new games?:/ I must of missed some of the show.

[megajon]

They showed off Gears of War 3 and then Kinect pretty much took up the rest of the show. Metal Gear Rising was shown off a little later after the show, with what appears to be Kinect support.

[gamer7804]

I am psyched up , i thought MS had a terrific show. The domain of this article says it all, however I wish sony and nintendo the best in their upcoming shows. Stronger companies = more competition and inevitably better software/hardware for it.

[kaaos666]

dude this website also owns xbox lifestyle

[gamer7804]

Dude... Xbox Lifestyle has been closed. There is only playstation lifestyle now.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

of all hardcore gamers that the vast majority all bashed all this motion crap as gimicry when the Wii shows up... and now damn near everyone from the Sony and MS camps are all wanting to embrace it now... what a bunch of hypocrites...

You play these HXC games with Move/Kinect and I'll play it using the regular controller, own the hell out of you in the said games.... and make you look like the fools you all are for embracing this crap!

I already owned a Wii it got old fast... much like this crap will... keep it out of my HXC games!

[kaaos666]

AGREED!!

[jdktech2010]

They are the only shot left for me to buy motion controls...I'll be watching closely.

[Lightel0s]

kinect failed to impress? no way , after watch the conference i sold my wii its so old with all that cables.

[chiwoo]

In the long run those casuel players can always abanden them later on but there Hardcore fans wont that goes to show that there only focus is getting that casuel market share from Nintendo.

[DOOMZ]

This is one of the only places who are saying KINECT failed, lol... Just funny...

[MRMagoo123]

yeh it is funny because i have seen about 4 sites saying it where are you actually looking MS official site and thats it

[huzzaahh]

Kinect officially sucks.

[nangoku]

If not we gonna have more fucken kids with headsets. This is gonna kill consoles.

[megajon]

I think this motion controller fad is actually hurting innovation. Rather than focusing on new hardware and consoles, we're trying to get us to dance in front of a camera and swing around a lollipop? I hope this doesn't last long and gaming gets back to how it should be, with a controller in hand. To much focus on gimmicky stuff in my opinion. Do both companies really expect motion sensor equipment and 3D to extend the life of both systems another 5 years? Maybe Nintendo will push them along with a new console in the next 2 years, but that's just wishful thinking.

[GrizzlyMedia]

if i pass gas will i loose my kinection

[WalMartFTW]

Yes it is not that impressive to hardcore gamers. It is meant to catch the eye of the "Casual" gamer. I especially liked the way it integrated with the dashboard. That is what got my attention. The only thing that I really wanted from the conference was Gears 3, and I got that so I am happy :)

[BIGBOSS08]

sony are going to murder microsoft! trust me i know :)

[The Milkman]

Like I said before both the Natal and the Sony move is nothing to be excited about now. Face it you may use the move on socom for a bit then get tired of it and pick up the controller. For the Natal you'll have fun for a bit then go onto some other game that doesn't even use Natal(Kinect) at all. I think E3 all together this year is going to be pretty bleh unless something else beside this motion crap is brought up. The only thing to do is watch the fanboys try to make it seem more spectacular than it really is. This KB guy they worship? It's all a joke with the incentive to make you think one is better than the other without any real logic. His jokes were as childish as the Sony fanboys and that's why they love him. Also lets not play the copy cat card either. Each company has took or copied something they seen someone else use. That's part of life and that's how you improve your product. I'm just ready to hear something else besides this.... I'm waiting to be surprised. God I just hate fanboys so bad lol. It's like that annoying kid in the store you just want to see them leave without getting what they wanted. But the snotty noised ignorant brat always gets what he wants while knocking everything over.

[blizzak10]

The Milkman...

No offense but I can tell you don't own a PS3. I'll admit I don't own an Xbox for many reasons. I'm not a fanboy I just prefer sony games and have supported them since PSX days.

I'm pretty neatral though on what I saw. ANd today that microsoft conference was seriously as bland as it gets. I like the concept of Kinect and totally was giving it some credit and expected WAY more than some kiddie games and some little useless features. I was VERY SHOCKED how poorly microsoft displayed this new tech and literally I mean literally KILLED the hype it once had. I live near Xbox headquarters here in Redmond,WA and honestly after seeing that poor display of marketing and performance I'm hoping to see some people that are making 100K+ a year walking outa that place with pinkslips..i'm sorry lol that was unacceptable.

come on the KB guys is something funny he's just stupid funny and meant to be not serious.

Again i'm just totally blown away how BAD that conference was...I mean really go watch it again it's actually humerous.

I was expecting much better quality from Kinect...and I was expecting also a phone to compete with the Iphone but I got neither...So I guess I get to stick with my Iphone and still don't plan on buying a Xbox.

[blizzak10]

I Also believe Sony will have a good conference because they have lots of sequels that have steady grounds already to build upon as well as complete info on AGENT which I think will be a huge game for them. I'm actually really excited for the Move!

The Move is perfect for my family I dont care if its a Wii rip-off it makes it so I don't have to spend $200 on a Wii. This will be great for parties and Families and I look forward to seeing my wife enjoy video games.

[The Milkman]

Ummm I don't own a PS3? I own every console and you can add my PSN King_Slinky_Dink (PS I hate that name but that's it).