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Microsoft Creating 3D Effect By Shooting Images Straight Into Your Eye

Forget 3-D glasses, Microsoft is working on a new 3-D technology that will beam different images in to your eyes.

deadreckoning6665486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

YES! This is what I've been waiting for...but knowing Microsoft, it might cost an arm and a leg. Its funny this popped up cause I just finished saying in another article that the PS3 will NOT be the only HD console to incorporate 3D.

@TROLL EATER- Just curious, did u just disagree with me?

@zetsuei1- Wow, ur a very pessimistic person. Here's the original source btw: http://gizmodo.com/5561095/...

Doesn't look like a joke to me.

"Talk about being excited for a console you dont own then going to another article and dismissing the one you do, your facade is such a joke."

So I NEED to own something to be excited about it. By that logic, 70% of the people on this site already own 3DTVs. And what have I said thats so bad about PS3???? Please tell me. Post quotes/links from my comment history and I'd be glad to defend myself. Or PM me if ud like.

U seem to not understand that because I own a PS3, I am at liberty to not only praise it(like I have, check my comment history) as well as criticize it. I will ALWAYS criticize the PS3 more than the 360 because thats the console I OWN. Call me crazy, but how can I heavily criticize the 360 if I don't own it? That would be unfair.

LordMarius5486d ago

Talk about being excited for a console you dont own then going to another article and dismissing the one you do, your facade is such a joke

ClownBelt5486d ago

Don't feed the ignorant plox. XD

captain-obvious5486d ago

eh ?
WTF dose MS got to do with that ??
its all up to the TV don't you think ??

so since Sony makes TV's i thinks putting Sony instead of MS if here would be a lot more logical

mikeslemonade5486d ago

Microsoft is a software company. There is noway they will be able to 1up Sony on anything hardware related. If they do it's going to cost them $ billions more than Sony because Sony makes things in-house.

Aikuchi5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

Old news, and MS isn't the only on doing it. I have seen many posts this week about that might be what the Nentendo 3DS is going to do.

gaffyh5486d ago

So before people get over-excited and think that Microsoft are "inventing" this lol. This stuff has already been in the works for the past two years, and there are already prototypes of it available, which are basically 3DTVs that require no glasses.

This method uses Parallax, more info here http://www.physorg.com/news...

Hideo_Kojima5486d ago

So only one person can watch 3D with this technology?
Pretty useless.

jebabcock5486d ago

Ok, first the xbox does not have the technology to do this... Even with natal, if it could track your eye movements with precision for all people watching... it would still have to have a lens projecting light to each person watching... or only one person would actually ever see the 3d.... I'm still failing to see where there was any mention of the xbox in the article to begin with... Maybe while they are at it natal will include the surface technology too.. since we are pulling things out of our rear... if you don't care about 3d that is one thing, but when you immediately jump on the bandwagon once a breath of something relating microsoft(not the xbox) to 3D viewing pops up then it just shows how much of a goon you really are...

DMason5486d ago

Read the article. 2 people can watch at once, 4 people can watch 2D. They are working on making it more accessible to more people.

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-GoldenTimeLover-5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

lol @ deadreckoning

Its been 20 minutes since he posted and he's still here camping defending his points. What a devoted fanboy. :)

solidjun55486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

I bet he has a 360 and just lying his @$$ about it. I think he might have developed a new form of trolling.

Deadreckoning666, you're almost famous troll.

sikbeta5486d ago

@solidjun5

Bungie > deadreckoning666

Bungie got Multiple-account TROLL Powaaar lol

Or Maybe Bungie = deadreckoning666

Bwahahahahahaha....

solidjun55486d ago

Bungie got some intelligence. Dread is just an idiotic stealth troll.

Christopher5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

LOL! We are decades away from this sort of technology. Holographics are a simpler and more relevant technology option.

talltony5486d ago

Within 5 years their will be 3d tvs without the need of glasses it would just be too expensive To make right now. That's why I am not on the 3d bandwagon at this moment.

lomion55486d ago

I was under the impression that the viewing angles are pretty awful. It may very well be that the tech needs more work. But hey, I admittedly know very little.

PS360PCROCKS5486d ago

It's out there yes. But lomion is right the viewing angles are awful and it tends to hurt your eyes. It's years away

corneliuscrust5486d ago

You IDIOT! You can't praise MS on here. That's like n4g suicide

raztad5486d ago

@cgoodno

True, but this article want us to believe MS is ahead on the tech race when they actually are very far behind.

See how MS is still dragging the gaming industry with a DVD drive, HDMI 1.2 (non 3D compat) but yeah we are suppose to wait till they have an incredible new 3D tech ready and DD instead of BD.

pixelsword5486d ago

Unknown at this point what exactly MS has up their sleeves.

The Wii can do 3D without any tech and you can view it now from this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm sure Sony can do something similar with their glasses if they use the eyetoy and track left/right from certain points with your glasses, but it's just showing that there are solutions out there that are low-tech.

Heck, most likely MS is going to rip-off Nintendo and claim it anyways.

Because Microsoft invented 3D gaming. And avatars. *rolls eyes*

Moonboots5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

That Johnny Lee guy works at MS now I believe. I remember reading something about him taking a position in R&D like a year ago.

Cool video but that is NOT Nintendo tech he is just using it as an example so the whole "rip-off Nintendo" is not accurate.

rexus123455486d ago

what Nintendo showed is not "3D", it's "Virtual Reality". 3D means perception of depth.

RedDevils5486d ago

I never knew M$ have an R&D department, I thought they only had R&C department (Research and Copy) :P

Spydiggity5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

ps3 fanboys as always. it amazes me that you can all be so quick to say MS rips off other people's ideas, but completely ignore the fact that many of the things sony has done this gen have been rip offs of wii or 360. and that ESPECIALLY goes for move.

i don't even want to knock the ps3 cuz i'm excited for their use of the technology. but lets be real here. if MS is copying other ppl's ideas, sony is flat out stealing them.

i'm interested in anything that advances gaming tech, so sick of this one sided bashing. hypocrites.

Christopher5485d ago

***and that ESPECIALLY goes for move. ***

Might want to do a bit of research. Move has been in existence since 2001. I will admit that the only reason it's gotten to this point is because Wii showed it could be profitable, but Wii wasn't the first with the tech.

RedDevils5485d ago

how the F, did you get 5 bubbles, compare to all other unbias people with intelligent comments. Did you use 5 other accounts to bubbles yourself up lol

Christopher5485d ago (Edited 5485d ago )

RedDevils, congratulations on being the first person here to outright call me biased. You might want to check the history of the person you're talking about next time. I'm here for games and logical debate, not some perverse goal to spread love of one thing or another.

The truth is, Richard Marks has had the move technology since 2001. Just from this last week:

http://blogs.forbes.com/vel...

"We've been working on this area for a long time," says Marks, the desk in his office strewn with clunky-looking Move controller prototypes dating back to 2001 (originally tested for use with EyeToy), years before the Wii launched. To Nintendo's implication of Sony's unoriginality, he says, "Some of what the Wii did was triggered by the EyeToy."

As for why I have 5 bubbles? Again, check my post history.

RedDevils5485d ago

you actually misunderstood me, I was wondering how can you get 5 bubbles, I didn't say you're bias, I was comparing that I see some people with intelligent comments and they stuck with 2 or 3 at most 4 and you're the first that have 5 :P

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pixelsword5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

The last time I shot something into someone's eye, I got slapped for it.
(Ar! Ar! Ar! Ar!)

MNicholas5486d ago

Sony Glasstron (1997):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It also had a position sensor which sensed head movement and rotated the view accordingly.

thewhoopimen5486d ago

Microsoft Creating 3D Effect By Shooting Images Straight Into Your Eye... as opposed to shooting it up your ass? Seriously, don't all 3D do that? Poor title.

nygamer285486d ago

damn bro why so many disagrees?

Greywulf5486d ago

103 disagrees and counting.

DMason5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

I think this would be a lot more appealing than wearing those glasses. Hopefully this comes to fruition.

Sunny_D5485d ago (Edited 5485d ago )

Dead is nothing, but a coward who tries to troll in disguise. Trying to blend in with the PS3 crowd to try to make his trolling attempts allowed. Just admit to having a 360 and/or both and then you won't have to do this worthless act that just makes people think you're a pussy.

OH, like Captain Obvious mentioned. Why did you mention PS3 in a Microsoft article? Isn't it you that always claims stop mentioning other consoles in articles that are not related to it. Then, you call them hypocrites?

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TROLL EATER5486d ago

Good luck to MS hope dey find a way of removing the need for 3d glasses

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

There is a 3DTV, and is not necessary to use the Glasses or something like that, I saw the video on Youtube.

About 3D and Xbox, good luck with that HDMI 1.2

whitesoxfalife5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

i dont know about your tv, but on mines i can clearly play my 360 games in 3D thru a 1.2 hdmi output...... but i dont have the glasses

ll_UNDERSCORE_ll5486d ago

@soxfan
chewing on mushrooms don't count as a 3d experience.

IcarusOne5486d ago

HDMI 1.2 is only a handicap if you're using RealD compression. There's always more than one way to skin a duck.

cobraagent5486d ago

Do you have a mental illness or are you being sarcstic? Because there is no way in hell you can watch 3d with your xbox and without glasses

zetsuei15486d ago

producing TV's lol.

Or do you think that the videogame is going to make the job alone?!

Dude this article is such a joke.

corneliuscrust5486d ago

only Sony is allowed to do that here.

cyborg69715486d ago

And shame on you for thinking ms could come up with anything original on their own. They never have and never will. I bet that poor guy who sold dos for 50 large is kicking himself.

nygamer285486d ago

@cyborg6971:you think sony came up with 3d?....ur an fool if you think that

cyborg69715486d ago

Ny gamer I know that Sony didn't so I guess I'm not a fool. And the yanks suck.

corneliuscrust5486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

I forgot the golden N4G rule: Don't say anything that isnt negative about MS.

You sony fanboys called me on it, fair enough. MS has never innovated at all ever, in any way shape or form in the history of the world.

You know...you N4g kids, you could at least TRY to take off the sony goggles once in a while.

PS READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE if you're going to continue mindlessly slagging MS.

IT"S NOT A TV (you damn champions) it's a LENS. The LENS has an LED array in it that manipulates the light passing through it FROM THE SOURCE BEHIND IT.
Damn you children never rest. It's obviously old tech that everyone has seen by now... oh WAIT.

Now continue the downvotes without rhyme or reason, and ESPECIALLY without reading the motherfucking article. You continue to be the pillar of light that is the N4G community; well respected across the internet and not at all considered the slum of gaming sites.

@ below
EVILMONKEY
"3d without glasses is not possible without holographic imaging.currently, that is. When someone can make new eyeballs and put them in your head, then it will be possible."

********3d without glasses IS ALREADY A REALITY...********

http://www.google.ca/url?sa...

http://www.walletpop.com/bl...

http://www.cybertheater.com...

http://www.hitachi-displays...

How many links do you need?

Naked eye 3d tech has been around for years. They are releasing the 3d tvs with glasses first because companies stagger the release of new tech to bleed you for more money. That's how the tech industry works.

Please do your homework before making yourself look like a dirty ass.

PPL read the links before you disagree- oh what am i saying this is N4G... carry on with the downvotes.

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Moonboots5486d ago

Did you even read the article?? This does not have anything to do with the TV. The effect can be created on any television and it's based on head tracking and tricking your eyes to perceive depth.

evilmonkey5015486d ago

...and you have to sit exactly in front of it without moving your eyes or head. And it hurts.

Mike134nl5486d ago

@ evilmonkey, yeah what moonboots said did you even read the article??
it tracks your eyes with the use of a camera

IcarusOne5486d ago

If you changed the name in this article to Sony, suddenly it would be the most amazingly divine tech the world had ever seen. Everyone here tries to sound like tech geniuses when all they are is blind fanboy loyalists.

Spydiggity5486d ago

just like when they announced a few months ago that Halo Reach would have jet packs. "jet packs are stupid, it's the same game with jetpacks."

fast forward to 2 weeks ago... killzone 3 announces it will have jetpacks. "OMGWTFSAUCE, JETPACKS?!? OMG SONY IS SO AMAZING. N4G JUST GOT KILLZONED. BWAAHAHAHHALALAL."

ps3 fanboys are a JOKE. any real gamer knows it

Alcon Caper5485d ago

Well said my man. Bubbles.

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fr0sty5486d ago

you'll never remove the need for 3d glasses fully and get quality as good as glasses can give you without going all out hologram style 3d, which is a ways off. even the autostereoscopic displays have severe banding issues and can only display in 3d with you sitting dead center to the TV (much like this... a viewing angle that can only accomodate 4 people in 2d SUCKS no matter how you slice it!). if we're talking flat displays, glasses are as good as it gets. at least for the next 5-10 years.

Focker4205486d ago

I would say 2-3 years. Technology progresses at a extremely fast rate.

Omega45486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

At least both MS and Nintendo get the idea that 3D gaming is only really viable without glasses. Wearing 3D glasses for long periods of time just won't work, hopefully Sony will realise that and start looking into similar tech.

The fact that it uses cameras makes me wonder if it will be part of Natal 2 for the next Xbox...

ingiomar5486d ago

yeah this could be THE BIG announcement they where talking about and it could very well be part of natal maybe..we don't know everything about the hardware(natal) yet

fr0sty5486d ago

it's been working just fine in the movie theaters...

mrv3215486d ago

SONY ARE MONSTERS... MAKING PEOPLE WEAR GLASSES... MONSTERS I TELL YOU.

So let me get this straight, it's OK? To have a Microphone and scream accross XBOX LIVE like some MLG idiot, but the second they ask you to wear GLASSES something MANY humans wear is offensive. Also it's perfectly fine to dance around like a moron in front of some character to make a Mii dance and hit balls... that's fine also, but glasses are really offensive?

So what where already planning a Natal 2? Really? It's not even out yet and now there's a need for a second?

Boy30005486d ago

Dude...you're crazy...all they were saying is that 3D without glasses is cooler than with glasses...o_O

evilmonkey5015486d ago (Edited 5486d ago )

3d without glasses is not possible without holographic imaging.currently, that is. When someone can make new eyeballs and put them in your head, then it will be possible.

Boody-Bandit5486d ago

I'm sure glad Nintendo and MS, non electronics companies, are trying to find ways to make 3D without glasses yet "ONLY" Sony, oh wait a minute.... let me think.
Oh yeah Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer, Mitsubishi, LG, you get the picture. You know the leaders in electronic displays? Are all going 3D with glasses, for now.

rob60215486d ago

@Omega 1-4 years from now you yourself will be eating your words playing a 3D video game WITH 3D Glasses on. If people will sit through a 3 hour movie with 3D glasses on no reason they can't play games for that long. It seems like a more natural fit for gaming to be honest. Microsoft's going to reveal technology 'they' developed yea right - maybe something they bought, but we'd heard of it by now if it was out there.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain18d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198117d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK17d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts17d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK17d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT20d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits20d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel119d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic19d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN19d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel118d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica19d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14919d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga19d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania20d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7719d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7719d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts19d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7719d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb19d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow20d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor19d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9127d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7827d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer26d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio26d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9126d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis26d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX27d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn27d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX27d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto27d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog26d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

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Lightning7726d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio26d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7726d ago (Edited 26d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx26d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7726d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole26d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio26d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs26d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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