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Microsoft Creating 3D Effect By Shooting Images Straight Into Your Eye

Forget 3-D glasses, Microsoft is working on a new 3-D technology that will beam different images in to your eyes.

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deadreckoning6665489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

YES! This is what I've been waiting for...but knowing Microsoft, it might cost an arm and a leg. Its funny this popped up cause I just finished saying in another article that the PS3 will NOT be the only HD console to incorporate 3D.

@TROLL EATER- Just curious, did u just disagree with me?

@zetsuei1- Wow, ur a very pessimistic person. Here's the original source btw: http://gizmodo.com/5561095/...

Doesn't look like a joke to me.

"Talk about being excited for a console you dont own then going to another article and dismissing the one you do, your facade is such a joke."

So I NEED to own something to be excited about it. By that logic, 70% of the people on this site already own 3DTVs. And what have I said thats so bad about PS3???? Please tell me. Post quotes/links from my comment history and I'd be glad to defend myself. Or PM me if ud like.

U seem to not understand that because I own a PS3, I am at liberty to not only praise it(like I have, check my comment history) as well as criticize it. I will ALWAYS criticize the PS3 more than the 360 because thats the console I OWN. Call me crazy, but how can I heavily criticize the 360 if I don't own it? That would be unfair.

LordMarius5489d ago

Talk about being excited for a console you dont own then going to another article and dismissing the one you do, your facade is such a joke

ClownBelt5489d ago

Don't feed the ignorant plox. XD

captain-obvious5489d ago

eh ?
WTF dose MS got to do with that ??
its all up to the TV don't you think ??

so since Sony makes TV's i thinks putting Sony instead of MS if here would be a lot more logical

mikeslemonade5489d ago

Microsoft is a software company. There is noway they will be able to 1up Sony on anything hardware related. If they do it's going to cost them $ billions more than Sony because Sony makes things in-house.

Aikuchi5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

Old news, and MS isn't the only on doing it. I have seen many posts this week about that might be what the Nentendo 3DS is going to do.

gaffyh5489d ago

So before people get over-excited and think that Microsoft are "inventing" this lol. This stuff has already been in the works for the past two years, and there are already prototypes of it available, which are basically 3DTVs that require no glasses.

This method uses Parallax, more info here http://www.physorg.com/news...

Hideo_Kojima5489d ago

So only one person can watch 3D with this technology?
Pretty useless.

jebabcock5489d ago

Ok, first the xbox does not have the technology to do this... Even with natal, if it could track your eye movements with precision for all people watching... it would still have to have a lens projecting light to each person watching... or only one person would actually ever see the 3d.... I'm still failing to see where there was any mention of the xbox in the article to begin with... Maybe while they are at it natal will include the surface technology too.. since we are pulling things out of our rear... if you don't care about 3d that is one thing, but when you immediately jump on the bandwagon once a breath of something relating microsoft(not the xbox) to 3D viewing pops up then it just shows how much of a goon you really are...

DMason5489d ago

Read the article. 2 people can watch at once, 4 people can watch 2D. They are working on making it more accessible to more people.

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-GoldenTimeLover-5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

lol @ deadreckoning

Its been 20 minutes since he posted and he's still here camping defending his points. What a devoted fanboy. :)

solidjun55489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

I bet he has a 360 and just lying his @$$ about it. I think he might have developed a new form of trolling.

Deadreckoning666, you're almost famous troll.

sikbeta5489d ago

@solidjun5

Bungie > deadreckoning666

Bungie got Multiple-account TROLL Powaaar lol

Or Maybe Bungie = deadreckoning666

Bwahahahahahaha....

solidjun55489d ago

Bungie got some intelligence. Dread is just an idiotic stealth troll.

Christopher5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

LOL! We are decades away from this sort of technology. Holographics are a simpler and more relevant technology option.

talltony5489d ago

Within 5 years their will be 3d tvs without the need of glasses it would just be too expensive To make right now. That's why I am not on the 3d bandwagon at this moment.

lomion55489d ago

I was under the impression that the viewing angles are pretty awful. It may very well be that the tech needs more work. But hey, I admittedly know very little.

PS360PCROCKS5489d ago

It's out there yes. But lomion is right the viewing angles are awful and it tends to hurt your eyes. It's years away

corneliuscrust5489d ago

You IDIOT! You can't praise MS on here. That's like n4g suicide

raztad5489d ago

@cgoodno

True, but this article want us to believe MS is ahead on the tech race when they actually are very far behind.

See how MS is still dragging the gaming industry with a DVD drive, HDMI 1.2 (non 3D compat) but yeah we are suppose to wait till they have an incredible new 3D tech ready and DD instead of BD.

pixelsword5489d ago

Unknown at this point what exactly MS has up their sleeves.

The Wii can do 3D without any tech and you can view it now from this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm sure Sony can do something similar with their glasses if they use the eyetoy and track left/right from certain points with your glasses, but it's just showing that there are solutions out there that are low-tech.

Heck, most likely MS is going to rip-off Nintendo and claim it anyways.

Because Microsoft invented 3D gaming. And avatars. *rolls eyes*

Moonboots5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

That Johnny Lee guy works at MS now I believe. I remember reading something about him taking a position in R&D like a year ago.

Cool video but that is NOT Nintendo tech he is just using it as an example so the whole "rip-off Nintendo" is not accurate.

rexus123455489d ago

what Nintendo showed is not "3D", it's "Virtual Reality". 3D means perception of depth.

RedDevils5489d ago

I never knew M$ have an R&D department, I thought they only had R&C department (Research and Copy) :P

Spydiggity5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

ps3 fanboys as always. it amazes me that you can all be so quick to say MS rips off other people's ideas, but completely ignore the fact that many of the things sony has done this gen have been rip offs of wii or 360. and that ESPECIALLY goes for move.

i don't even want to knock the ps3 cuz i'm excited for their use of the technology. but lets be real here. if MS is copying other ppl's ideas, sony is flat out stealing them.

i'm interested in anything that advances gaming tech, so sick of this one sided bashing. hypocrites.

Christopher5488d ago

***and that ESPECIALLY goes for move. ***

Might want to do a bit of research. Move has been in existence since 2001. I will admit that the only reason it's gotten to this point is because Wii showed it could be profitable, but Wii wasn't the first with the tech.

RedDevils5488d ago

how the F, did you get 5 bubbles, compare to all other unbias people with intelligent comments. Did you use 5 other accounts to bubbles yourself up lol

Christopher5488d ago (Edited 5488d ago )

RedDevils, congratulations on being the first person here to outright call me biased. You might want to check the history of the person you're talking about next time. I'm here for games and logical debate, not some perverse goal to spread love of one thing or another.

The truth is, Richard Marks has had the move technology since 2001. Just from this last week:

http://blogs.forbes.com/vel...

"We've been working on this area for a long time," says Marks, the desk in his office strewn with clunky-looking Move controller prototypes dating back to 2001 (originally tested for use with EyeToy), years before the Wii launched. To Nintendo's implication of Sony's unoriginality, he says, "Some of what the Wii did was triggered by the EyeToy."

As for why I have 5 bubbles? Again, check my post history.

RedDevils5488d ago

you actually misunderstood me, I was wondering how can you get 5 bubbles, I didn't say you're bias, I was comparing that I see some people with intelligent comments and they stuck with 2 or 3 at most 4 and you're the first that have 5 :P

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pixelsword5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

The last time I shot something into someone's eye, I got slapped for it.
(Ar! Ar! Ar! Ar!)

MNicholas5489d ago

Sony Glasstron (1997):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It also had a position sensor which sensed head movement and rotated the view accordingly.

thewhoopimen5489d ago

Microsoft Creating 3D Effect By Shooting Images Straight Into Your Eye... as opposed to shooting it up your ass? Seriously, don't all 3D do that? Poor title.

nygamer285489d ago

damn bro why so many disagrees?

Greywulf5489d ago

103 disagrees and counting.

DMason5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

I think this would be a lot more appealing than wearing those glasses. Hopefully this comes to fruition.

Sunny_D5488d ago (Edited 5488d ago )

Dead is nothing, but a coward who tries to troll in disguise. Trying to blend in with the PS3 crowd to try to make his trolling attempts allowed. Just admit to having a 360 and/or both and then you won't have to do this worthless act that just makes people think you're a pussy.

OH, like Captain Obvious mentioned. Why did you mention PS3 in a Microsoft article? Isn't it you that always claims stop mentioning other consoles in articles that are not related to it. Then, you call them hypocrites?

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TROLL EATER5489d ago

Good luck to MS hope dey find a way of removing the need for 3d glasses

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

There is a 3DTV, and is not necessary to use the Glasses or something like that, I saw the video on Youtube.

About 3D and Xbox, good luck with that HDMI 1.2

whitesoxfalife5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

i dont know about your tv, but on mines i can clearly play my 360 games in 3D thru a 1.2 hdmi output...... but i dont have the glasses

ll_UNDERSCORE_ll5489d ago

@soxfan
chewing on mushrooms don't count as a 3d experience.

IcarusOne5489d ago

HDMI 1.2 is only a handicap if you're using RealD compression. There's always more than one way to skin a duck.

cobraagent5489d ago

Do you have a mental illness or are you being sarcstic? Because there is no way in hell you can watch 3d with your xbox and without glasses

zetsuei15489d ago

producing TV's lol.

Or do you think that the videogame is going to make the job alone?!

Dude this article is such a joke.

corneliuscrust5489d ago

only Sony is allowed to do that here.

cyborg69715489d ago

And shame on you for thinking ms could come up with anything original on their own. They never have and never will. I bet that poor guy who sold dos for 50 large is kicking himself.

nygamer285489d ago

@cyborg6971:you think sony came up with 3d?....ur an fool if you think that

cyborg69715489d ago

Ny gamer I know that Sony didn't so I guess I'm not a fool. And the yanks suck.

corneliuscrust5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

I forgot the golden N4G rule: Don't say anything that isnt negative about MS.

You sony fanboys called me on it, fair enough. MS has never innovated at all ever, in any way shape or form in the history of the world.

You know...you N4g kids, you could at least TRY to take off the sony goggles once in a while.

PS READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE if you're going to continue mindlessly slagging MS.

IT"S NOT A TV (you damn champions) it's a LENS. The LENS has an LED array in it that manipulates the light passing through it FROM THE SOURCE BEHIND IT.
Damn you children never rest. It's obviously old tech that everyone has seen by now... oh WAIT.

Now continue the downvotes without rhyme or reason, and ESPECIALLY without reading the motherfucking article. You continue to be the pillar of light that is the N4G community; well respected across the internet and not at all considered the slum of gaming sites.

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"3d without glasses is not possible without holographic imaging.currently, that is. When someone can make new eyeballs and put them in your head, then it will be possible."

********3d without glasses IS ALREADY A REALITY...********

http://www.google.ca/url?sa...

http://www.walletpop.com/bl...

http://www.cybertheater.com...

http://www.hitachi-displays...

How many links do you need?

Naked eye 3d tech has been around for years. They are releasing the 3d tvs with glasses first because companies stagger the release of new tech to bleed you for more money. That's how the tech industry works.

Please do your homework before making yourself look like a dirty ass.

PPL read the links before you disagree- oh what am i saying this is N4G... carry on with the downvotes.

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Moonboots5489d ago

Did you even read the article?? This does not have anything to do with the TV. The effect can be created on any television and it's based on head tracking and tricking your eyes to perceive depth.

evilmonkey5015489d ago

...and you have to sit exactly in front of it without moving your eyes or head. And it hurts.

Mike134nl5489d ago

@ evilmonkey, yeah what moonboots said did you even read the article??
it tracks your eyes with the use of a camera

IcarusOne5489d ago

If you changed the name in this article to Sony, suddenly it would be the most amazingly divine tech the world had ever seen. Everyone here tries to sound like tech geniuses when all they are is blind fanboy loyalists.

Spydiggity5489d ago

just like when they announced a few months ago that Halo Reach would have jet packs. "jet packs are stupid, it's the same game with jetpacks."

fast forward to 2 weeks ago... killzone 3 announces it will have jetpacks. "OMGWTFSAUCE, JETPACKS?!? OMG SONY IS SO AMAZING. N4G JUST GOT KILLZONED. BWAAHAHAHHALALAL."

ps3 fanboys are a JOKE. any real gamer knows it

Alcon Caper5488d ago

Well said my man. Bubbles.

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fr0sty5489d ago

you'll never remove the need for 3d glasses fully and get quality as good as glasses can give you without going all out hologram style 3d, which is a ways off. even the autostereoscopic displays have severe banding issues and can only display in 3d with you sitting dead center to the TV (much like this... a viewing angle that can only accomodate 4 people in 2d SUCKS no matter how you slice it!). if we're talking flat displays, glasses are as good as it gets. at least for the next 5-10 years.

Focker4205489d ago

I would say 2-3 years. Technology progresses at a extremely fast rate.

Omega45489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

At least both MS and Nintendo get the idea that 3D gaming is only really viable without glasses. Wearing 3D glasses for long periods of time just won't work, hopefully Sony will realise that and start looking into similar tech.

The fact that it uses cameras makes me wonder if it will be part of Natal 2 for the next Xbox...

ingiomar5489d ago

yeah this could be THE BIG announcement they where talking about and it could very well be part of natal maybe..we don't know everything about the hardware(natal) yet

fr0sty5489d ago

it's been working just fine in the movie theaters...

mrv3215489d ago

SONY ARE MONSTERS... MAKING PEOPLE WEAR GLASSES... MONSTERS I TELL YOU.

So let me get this straight, it's OK? To have a Microphone and scream accross XBOX LIVE like some MLG idiot, but the second they ask you to wear GLASSES something MANY humans wear is offensive. Also it's perfectly fine to dance around like a moron in front of some character to make a Mii dance and hit balls... that's fine also, but glasses are really offensive?

So what where already planning a Natal 2? Really? It's not even out yet and now there's a need for a second?

Boy30005489d ago

Dude...you're crazy...all they were saying is that 3D without glasses is cooler than with glasses...o_O

evilmonkey5015489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

3d without glasses is not possible without holographic imaging.currently, that is. When someone can make new eyeballs and put them in your head, then it will be possible.

Boody-Bandit5489d ago

I'm sure glad Nintendo and MS, non electronics companies, are trying to find ways to make 3D without glasses yet "ONLY" Sony, oh wait a minute.... let me think.
Oh yeah Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer, Mitsubishi, LG, you get the picture. You know the leaders in electronic displays? Are all going 3D with glasses, for now.

rob60215489d ago

@Omega 1-4 years from now you yourself will be eating your words playing a 3D video game WITH 3D Glasses on. If people will sit through a 3 hour movie with 3D glasses on no reason they can't play games for that long. It seems like a more natural fit for gaming to be honest. Microsoft's going to reveal technology 'they' developed yea right - maybe something they bought, but we'd heard of it by now if it was out there.

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AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK2d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent751d 21h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM2d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif2d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer1d 21h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin1d 21h ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent751d 21h ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer1d 21h ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 17h ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer22h ago(Edited 21h ago)

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused2d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher2d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning772d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay2d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer1d 21h ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198121d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK20d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts20d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK20d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT23d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits23d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel122d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic22d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN22d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel121d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica22d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14922d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga22d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania23d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts23d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7723d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7722d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts22d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7722d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb22d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow23d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor22d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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