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Nvidia vs ATI: Which Should You Buy?

ATI has really stepped up their game in the last few years. With the release of it's 4-series, the Radeon HD cards really began to be a force to reckon with for Nvidia. Not only did they run cooler and consume less power than Nvidia's GeForce 200-series, but they also offered more performance for your money. As we are already seeing, this trend has continued into the current generation. The decision for DirectX11 PC gamers is between the Radeon HD 5-series and GeForce 400-series.

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Raoh5441d ago

i've been told to go with ati for its processing power. and ati is a great brand but i wish i would have listened to the one friend who adviced me not to go with ati..

ati drivers are Sh!t.. while ati cards may be more powerful, nvidia cards are more stable and the drivers are more reliable..

hm1063835441d ago

I don't know, I actually like the catalyst interface and haven't had any problems with my ATI cards.
But then again, I've never had a problem with Nvidia. Both seem pretty reliable to me.

Raf1k15441d ago (Edited 5441d ago )

I've had no issues with my 4850 other than the problem with BFBC2 which got sorted out and everything is fine. Also, ATI cards do tend to give you more value for your money.

Isn't there also a large power consumption difference between ATI and nVidia cards?

striped945441d ago

Yeah, ATI tends to consume much less power. With the exception of the 5970, which doesn't exactly have an equivalent, pretty much all ATI cards consume less power than the Nvidia counterpart.

ColdFire5441d ago

I used to be a nvida fanboy, their drivers do seem better, with more performance improvements. Their 3D and PhysX are better. But atm, ATi is owning them on hardware with the 5000 series.

terrorofdeath5441d ago

No problems with me and i'm with ATI...i do need to upgrade though...continuing with ATI. i agree with 1.1, catalyst looks cool.

raztad5441d ago (Edited 5441d ago )

Any advice about a cheap graphic card that allows you to run Stalker:Call of Pripyat at 1080p, 4xMSAA (at least), v-locked and 60fps?

Thanks.

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I see I want too much. Let me rephrase it

Any advice about a CHEAP graphic card that allows you to run Stalker:Call of Pripyat at 1080p, 4xMSAA (at least) at a playable framerate?

striped945441d ago (Edited 5441d ago )

Getting a locked 60fps on this game would be very difficult, I've seen some reviews in which the 5970 ($600) was only getting around 60fps on full settings for this game. If you'd be willing to go down to 35-45 fps, a 5850 or 5870 may do the job.

edit: Radeon HD 5770 would probably perform well.($150) Just search for reviews and they probably have it benchmarked with this game.

LinuxGuru5441d ago

This is one of the few games in the world that has an option for real-time ambient occlusion. It usually brings most machines to their knees.

Although I would suspect most modern cards can handle it decently. My old HD3850 ran it with AO at about 15 fps.

I would go with a 5870.

Raoh5441d ago

i'm using the 4890 with the hdmi out and my audio sometimes does not load properly.. i have to sometimes restart my computer because my audio device driver is not recognized...

after searching through ati forums its a catalyst ati driver issue.. its better now but i had to reinstall win7 while being offline to avoid microsoft installing their drivers, then installing the ati drivers only after running driver sweeper.. it was a mess...

its a great card visually but the audio drivers i think are made by another party, realtek or something

ProjectVulcan5441d ago (Edited 5441d ago )

Ati are in the ascendancy currently. Its always swings and roundabouts. Go back to when the Ati 9800 series pummeled the abysmal Geforce FX. Nvidia hit back with the mighty Geforce 6 series, leaping ahead with shader model 3, and carrying the lead into the early Geforce 7/X1800 bouts. Ati sprang back in a half generation with the X1900, edging out the 7900GTX.

Nvidia stunned the world, rocked ati with the 8800GTX. A massive leap over the X1900, ati scrabbled to catch up. The HD2900 was far too late, too hot, too slow, too expensive (sound familiar right now GTX4?). Since the 8800GT, possibly an all time nvidia high point, ati have reeled nvidia back in bit by bit. First making small gains with the HD3 series and arguably nosing ahead with the HD4 series for price and performance- Those are the most popular gaming cards on the Steam service today.

As it stands, Ati have won back the overall performance crown and kept it for more than six months with the 5970. The 5870 is within 15 percent of Nvidia's fastest, and costs 50 percent less. Ati have the current edge i think its pretty undeniable- In the world of graphics though, a year can change the whole scene and turn it on its head. To be continued.....

nycredude5441d ago

I have a laptop with ati radeon mobility 5870 and so far no problems. It runs Crysis at 1080p and everything on High no problems.

evrfighter5441d ago

buy whatever offers the best bang for the buck. You'll find your money goes a long way when you have no loyalties in the pc world.

pippoppow5441d ago

Had graphics problem with certain games using an ATI card I bought a few years ago and my brother's 2 yr old laptop with an ATI chip in it had a problem running in 32bit for some reason (16bit ok). While the ATI cards are nice and I'm sure the drivers today are good, I'd bet they still are not as stable as NVIDIA's. I do not trust the stability of ATI cards and unless their drivers become heralded as amazing drivers my next card will most likely be an NVIDIA card.

fossilfern5441d ago

Are people still living in the past ? Ati drivers may have been unstable YEARS ago but now they are more than stable, they are fantastic and the fact ATi release them every month is a bonus. Nvidia release their drivers every so often, theres no patern to the updates at all

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baraka0075441d ago

ati is cheaper but nvidia has better drivers IMO. I'm using a msi cyclone 4890 OC and it does pretty well but I still liked using my 9800GT better just because I hate using the Catalyst control center. If you are planning on playing a lot of games and tweaking each one I'd go Nvidia but if you just play games and don't mess around with stuff like forcing AA in games that don't support it (everquest 2 UT engine games ect) then you can save some cash and go ATI.

AuToFiRE5441d ago

I find the ATI drivers much better than they once were, nvidia drivers have gone downhill, i recently tried to build a computer for a friend and he wanted an nvidia card, put it in, but it took about 3.5 hours to get the drivers to work properly without causing BSoDs, the ATI drivers worked wonderfully when i popped in a 5870 from another friends computer, on top of that the controls for fine tuning the ATI are so much simpler

striped945441d ago

I like the ATI's value over Nvidia's. Other than that they're pretty even.

XxRoosterxX5441d ago

about price versus performance then go with ATI.

If want the very best money can buy then buy Nvidia.

I'm personally more an ATI kinda guy.

baraka0075441d ago

you said what I did but they gave me a disagree and you an agree... man I hate this site lol

anonymouse1113355441d ago

The truth, same thing can be said that price:performance is AMD and the best you can get is Intel.

rexus123455441d ago

I think you got that backward.
Best performance per money spent will have to go to the GTX 470, if you don't mind your graphics card running a little hot that is. AMD's HD 5970 currently holds the crown of highest performance single-slot video card.

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PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti GPU Review

Between the price, performance and power draw, with the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, NVIDIA nailed the mainstream formula.

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Nintendo Switch 2 Leveled Up With NVIDIA AI-Powered DLSS and 4K Gaming

Nvidia writes:

The Nintendo Switch 2 takes performance to the next level, powered by a custom NVIDIA processor featuring an NVIDIA GPU with dedicated RT Cores and Tensor Cores for stunning visuals and AI-driven enhancements.

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ZycoFox22d ago

The raytracing probably doesn't even equal a low end PC GPU, even if it did it would probably be mostly useless. They'll probably force it in some game now that will run like shit maybe 30fps at best, just because "it can do it"

B5R21d ago

Raytracing is so unnecessary for a handheld. I just hope you can turn it off.

Vits21d ago

A lot of gamers don’t realize that ray tracing isn’t really about making games look better. It’s mainly there to make development easier and cheaper, since it lets devs skip a bunch of old-school tricks to fake reflections and lighting. The visual upgrade is just a nice bonus, but that’s not the main reason the tech exists.

So you can be 100% sure that developers will try to implement it every chance they get.

RaidenBlack21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Agree with Vits .... but also to add, if devs and designers just implement RT to a game world then it won't always work as expected. RT is not just reflections but also lighting and illumination as well. For example, If you just create a room with minimal windows, then it will look dark af, if RTGI is enabled. Devs and designers needs to sort out the game world design accordingly as well.
DF's Metro Exodus RT upgrade is an amazing reference video to go through, if anybody's interested.

darthv7221d ago

So is HDR... but they have it anyway.

thesoftware73021d ago

Some PS5 and SX games run at 30fps with RT...just like those systems, if you don't like it, turn it off.

I only say this to say, you make it seem like a problem exclusive to the Switch 2.

Neonridr21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

sour grapes much?

"It probably doesn't do it well because it's Nintendo and they suck". That's how your comment reads. Why don't you just wait and see before making these ridiculous statements?

Goodguy0122d ago

Please. I'd like to play my switch games on my 4k tv without it looking all doodoo.

PRIMORDUS22d ago

Nvidia could have said this months ago and cut the bullshit. Anyway the rumors were true.

Profchaos21d ago

Would have been nice but NDA likely prevented them from saying anything

PRIMORDUS21d ago

TBH I don't think Nvidia would have cared if they broke the NDA. A little fine they pay, and they go back to their AI shit. They don't even care about GPU's anymore. I myself would like them to leave the PC and console market.

Tacoboto21d ago

This story was written half a decade ago when the world knew Nvidia would provide the chip for Switch 2 and DLSS was taking off.

Profchaos21d ago

Yeah but similar thing happened a long time ago when 3dfx announced they were working with Sega when they took the company public Sega pulled out of the contract for the Dreamcast GPU.

In response Sega terminated the contract and went to a ultimately weaker chipset.

So there's a precedent but that Nintendo would have much Of an option its AMD, NVIDIA or Intel

Profchaos21d ago

I'm not expecting of anything from ray tracing but dlss will be the thing that sees the unit get some impossible ports.

andy8521d ago

Correct. All I'm seeing online is it'll never run FF7 Rebirth. If it can run cyberpunk it'll run it. The DLSS will help. Obviously only 30 fps but a lot don't care

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Exactly right when I buy a game on switch I know what I'm getting into I'm buying a game for its portability and I'm willing to sacrifice fidelity and performance to play on a train or comfortably from a hotel room when I travel for work.

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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D & 9900X3D 3D V-Cache CPUs Now Available

AMD launches the Ryzen 9 9950X3D for $699 & Ryzen 9 9900X3D for $599, offering the best-in-class gaming & content creation CPU performance.

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mkis00744d ago

X3D really turned around AMD's cpu prospects. I wont touch intel now, vs 10 years ago I wouldn't imagine going anywhere near AMD cpu's for gaming only.

ZycoFox44d ago

Zen 1 was merely "meh" IMO, it had major RAM compatibility issues, only really worked with Samsung memory from what I recall, and performance was ok at best, the 8700k launched the same year and was top dog even when Zen 2 came out. Though Zen 2 was much better.. it just lacked a bit in gaming, good all rounder chips though for other applications.

AMD are trying to upsell the 9900x3D to 9950x3D, pricing is weird (too close) and odd chip configuration.. it should be a lot cheaper. They did the same with the 9070 -> 9070XT.

Some funny choices going on at AMD..

FinalFantasyFanatic44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Zen 1 was pretty great for what it was, considering that was the first time in a long time that AMD was actually competitve with Intel, it was also the first time you could easily get something with more than 4 cores/threads. The RAM issues was frustrating AF though, especially since Zen 1 performance relied so heavily on fast RAM.

If we ignore the price, the 990x3D and 9950X3D look pretty great provided you can actually make use of those extra cores/threads, otherwise the 9800x3D is better value.

PixelOmen44d ago

Zen1 was the beginning of the turn around and by Zen3 it was starting to become ultra competitive. X3D was really only the final nail in the coffin.

Jingsing43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

I guess the real question is how many compatibility issues will arise from their motherboard chipsets? also the selection of motherboards for AMD is more limited too. Which often limits what kind of form factor build you want. Last time around I avoided AMD due to their chipsets having horrid USB3 support with accessories. You tend not to see these kind of issues being talked about, it ends up just being games and synthetic benchmarks.