Konami sees little PS3 price cut impact: Metal Gear Solid may come to other consoles

Kazumi Kitaue, the head of Konami's North American and European operations, told Reuters today that Konami may need to expand the target hardware for its blockbuster action game Metal Gear Solid, which has so far been developed for Sony's PlayStation machines, to other consoles in the future to recoup development costs.

"Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps," Kitaue said.

Konami plans to launch Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the PS3 in the current business year to March 2008.

[Bloodmask]

It would only make sense that MGS4 will also come to 360. Publishers want to maximize their profits. PS3 is not selling well compared to the other consoles and Konami knows this.

The system with the largest install base always gets the games. This happened with PS2 last generation. It will be no different with 360 this generation. with the 360 install base at almost 12 mil Konami would be crazy to pass up the green.

Disagree all day long and take all my bubbles. That is your only defense Sony boys. To hide behind the feedback and disagree buttons. To attack someone personally bc you know it is true.
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Here is an article that actually says "MGS4" in it Desperado since I know you always look for your loophole.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/2...

[Omegasyde]

Don't believe till after E3.

E3 will be where the 360 version will come out to play if there eve in one.

But then again Price cuts are about to roll worldwide for the PS3 so who knows?

Until it is said officially by Hideo Kojima Himself, don't believe anything.

[DrPirate]

Timed Exclusive Confirmed.

Either way, if it comes out 1 year after the PS3 version, no one will care about it then :\.

Edit: I only say timed because in the article, they imply that a 360 version isn't even in the works and that if the PS3 sales don't pick up, they may start working on one.

Edit: Bloodmask, I'm not trying to incite anything but no one DID care for those games when they ended up on the PS3. They sold well because there was absolutely nothing to do buy. Did you see anyone horribly excited for Oblivion's arrival to the PS3? I'll admit, even I bought Vegas (Despite I played it already on my cousin's 360), but I'm selling that game the second we hit August to buy a real PS3 game. Not me or any of my PS3 owning friends has their calendars marked for the glorious release of GRAW2 (which by the way, was excellent on the 360 I must admit, for the exception of Gears, it's the only game that kept me interested for a long period of time).People want new things, I don't know, do you agree?

[Bloodmask]

then I guess the same rules must apply to Oblivion, GRAW2, and Rainbow Six Vegas on PS3, Correct DrPirate?

I guess nobody is interested in those games for PS3 according to your logic. Seeing as how they came out on PS3 roughly a year later.
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Dr Pirate, if people want new IPs so badly then why are PS3s most anticipated games MGS4 you do see the 4 correct? , and FF13 ? You do see that 13 in the title don't you?..............and how about Gran Turismo 5? You know 5....the number that comes after 4?

[DrPirate]

Of course, I will answer your question. However, you must take note that this is based off my opinion, I cannot speak on the behalf of all gamers, however, I do implore you to see my way. Also, I gave you a bubble, you answer back in a mature fashion and that's rare on this website. Also, I ask you be more polite when you answer back, I'm not acting immature or pretending that you aren't intelligent enough to see numbers after a couple of letters so then why are you? I treat you with respect, I expect it to be reciprocated.

Quote: Regardlessly: Dr Pirate, if people want new IPs so badly then why are PS3s most anticipated games MGS4 you do see the 4 correct? , and FF13 ? You do see that 13 in the title don't you?

I'm anticipating Metal Gear Solid 4 because it was described as being the game to showcase the PS3's power. When this game is released, we'll finally have a good idea at just what is capable. Also, on a personal note, I need to find out how the series concludes :P. I've been playing original Metal Gear since elemtary school and I absolutely must find out the ending. If the ending is out there, it takes the surprise out of the game. Do you catch what I'm getting at? This is also the reason why I'm anticipating God of War 3.

Final Fantasy, call them sequels, none of the games are alike. All the stories are independant of each other and carry the same, but slightly altered gameplay mechanics in each one. Same goes for Gran Turismo, people just want the same old Driving Simulator with new graphics, more cars and more tracks, but Driving Games will be driving games you know? Don't worry I see your point with sequalities. This does work for all three consoles. Who isn't excited for Halo 3? Half-Life 2: Episode 2? Metroid 3? The next Zelda? Ratchet and Clank 5 looks like a reimagining of the series.

Lastly: New IP's do get me excited. Uncharted looks like everything I wanted an adventure game to be. Heavenly Sword looks like the action-adventure game to take the reigns OF God of War being so story driven. Lair doesn't look like my type of game, but it carries a great epic scale and depth. Don't be mislead by my statements however. I think Mass Effect is the IP that will be a heavy hitter.

[Maldread]

We`ll see on E3 if it comes to 360, but i think it will be a timed exclusive if it goes this way. And if you look at the sales of MSG2: Substance on Xbox, i don`t seem to remember it did that great, so i`m not sure if MGS-fans are willing to wait another year to play MGS4 (i don`t think i will).

But as the 360 are cheeper than the PS3 and probably still has a bigger userbase, as the Xbox didn`t have over the PS2, maybe that would mean better sales for it. MGS-games usually sells better in the US and Europe than in Japan too, so it could make sense to port it to 360.

I see no reason to why it couldn`t run on the machine either, because it:
- dosn`t look all that great graphicly, of what`s shown so far
- dosn`t use CGI, which would require a lot of space

I guess it`s all up to Kojima and Konami, if we`ll see MGS4 on 360

[jromao]

PS3 60GB model is selling very well and price cuts will help that sales as also will reorder the 60 and 80 GB models inside the top price limit of $599.

This news about MGS4 going to other consoles is normal as studios/procducers want to cash as much as they can and that is prefectly legal, I'm PS3 fan since ever and in my opinion that's very good other consoles have this game, the Gamer above all will enjoy the fun and then can decide what console want to buy/use.

The only problem about multi-platform games is the game beeing builded at "same time" for all the consoles will not push that specific console features/power to the limit, that usualy give us games with bad gameplay or graphics or both.

But there is one "small" detail at this moment about 360, we know its getting ptoblems with CPU heat and that red lights, I guess if MGS4 is ported to 360 it will make a lot of xboxes to fire that problem again or for the first time, heavy games seems to pull the triger.

[ericnellie]

Developers have to make money too. What, do fanboys think a company is going to go under to remain loyal to another company that will remain in business after the developers demise! NO!! If the PS3 install base isn't large enough for them to make a profit why would anyone think they would be willing to take a massive loss to remain true to anyone. A business must make a profit - that's the simple fact.

[DrPirate]

Anyone with a brain agrees MGS4 won't be solely exclusive to the PS3 forever. I'm just going to say: A simultaneous multi-platform release of Metal Gear Solid 4 is impossible.

If I'm wrong, I'll eat my words, simple as that.

[Morbius420]

I hope this stays a PlayStation 3 exclusive. This lack of competition is troubling. It's not good for fans of either console. I'm sure that by Metal Gear's release date the PS3's install base will be big enough for MGS4 to turn a profit especially with the price cut and other big games coming out.

[hazeblaze]

This confirms that their currently no 360 version in development. MGS has always been ported to other systems later in it's life cycle... I don't think there's been much doubt that it would eventually end up on one of the other console's in some form or fashion. But there were a lot of rumors going around that it would release day 1 with the PS3 title. This confirms that they are watching the PS3 situation before they even decide on making a 360 version.

[i Shank u]

i gave you a bubble cause you have 3 and thats gay bro i see ppl making fan comments with more then that. you certainly arent saying MGS4 has jumped ship yet, you give a realistic scenario where MGS4 would jump ship to make more money.

To everyone - Imagine Konami spending all this time and money(is MGS4 costing $30mill to make?) to release a game exclusively for the system w/lowest install base and break even on their investment. No smart business would do that; they are in buisness to make profit and furthermore, to GROW that profit. If this game sold 3 mill copies on PS3, thats a good chunk but Konami will want to sell more then that, especially considering what games like this cost to make. come on people.

[kingboy]

I strongly believe Metal Gear will go multiplatform today at E3 some how.If not then Tekken might be the one to go

[Blankman]

so you solely believe msoft purpose at e3 is to take away at least one more exclusive from sony. tisk tisk

[Blankman]

360 hasnt even shipped 12 million 1st of all install base is more like 10 and with the recent price cut if sony can some regenerate public interest in their product i have no doubt they will at least reach 3-5 million units in u.s. this yr alone unless msoft counters with a price drop. It will definetly be intersting to see sales reports for this week since i have been hearing a lot of ps3 sold out in stores stories. Regardless mgs4 might hit the 360 a yr after it hits the ps3 which by then i will be singing been there done that.

[DixieNormS]

ala, Ninja Gaiden Sigma. LOL 3 years later.

[SuperSaiyan4]

You know this thing keeps coming up, I personally am not gagging for MGS4 on the 360 but IF it comes to the 360 what will I need my PS3 for? Only DBZ games and FF games and perhaps the odd 1 or 2 exclusives as well and 1st party games.

Konami need to advise at E3 what their plans are, if they dont say anything about a 360 version at E3 then its either a no no or could be a last min thing 2 months before the game comes out or something.

Either way I personally want a developer out there to finally exploit the PS3's so-called 'untapped power' come on let me see why I parted with over 400 notes!

[xfrgtr]

...and if MGS4 come to the ps3 what will I need a 360 for?

[JUSTaGAME]

Halo
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Too Human
Ace Combat 6
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Project Gotham Racing 4
Forza Motorsport 2
Splinter Cell

Just to name a few

[hazeblaze]

:-( Not a very good answer. Not only are only a couple of those titles worth getting excited about... a few are multiplat & a few won't be available til sometime in '08. And then there's the fact that the PS3 is getting much more this year in terms of blockbuster titles. Mass Effect & Lost Odyssey will probably be worth owning a 360 for though... I hope.

[darx]

Which few are multi-platform?

[masterg]

This is complete BS.
This games is not coming out until march 2008.
By then the PS3 could be the leader.

[gta_cb]

"could be the leader"

which means this isnt complete bullshit. plus its not saying its deff comming to Xbox 360

[Shadow Flare]

i've got a bad feeling about this. If it does go 360, i don't mind as much if its a timed exclusive and they get it later. Still rather not see it on there at all. But lol, i guess that picture with the huge dvd boxset might be true after all lol. Wonder how many dvd's the game might take up? Maybe you guys will get monthly installments, y'know. The game might be split up into 10 dvd's, and you'd have to buy each dvd on a monthly basis with a 360 magazine or something lol. Lets just wait til E3

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cvniket, yknow why compression techniques are 'almost nonexistent' on ps3? Its cos it doesn't need it. Kojima requuired a 50GB bluray disc for mgs4. You would have to compress the ABSOLUTE CRAP out of that game to make it fit on a dvd. PS3 will get uncompressed sound too which is always better. Trust me, MGS4 was built for the ps3 from the ground up. You know how ps3 always gets the bad ports? Well if mgs4 comes to 360, then you're gonna get a bad port. Man, your version will be so compressed, all textures will be lost and you'll be playing with a young solid snake cos you won't see his wrinkles. BTW, i don't understand what you mean by lots of cut-scenes making it easier to compress. MGS cut-scenes USE actual gameplay...i can't see how that makes any difference

[CNIVEK]

With the superior compression techniques used in 360 titles (almost nonexistent in PS3 titles), it could be ported onto 2 discs easily. Since the MGS games have so many cutscenes...much more than actual gameplay...it would be very easy to break the game into 2 discs.

EDIT: Shadowflare, you moron...learn to [email protected] read. I said the cutscenes would make it easy to put on more than one disc...you know, since they're separate from the gameplay. Cutscenes are like commercials...they're a break from the action.

[Morbius420]

I hope they take all the cut scenes out and leave all the gameplay in. Maybe it'll fit on one or two discs then.

[i Shank u]

Final Fantasy 7, huge blockbuster and great game, was 4 discs. Metal Gear Solid was 2 discs. having an entire game on 1 disc really benefits games like Grand theft auto and Oblivion where there is one huge, open streaming world that has no load times. MGS4 isnt one of those games far as I know, so multiple discs could work fine; I see alot of people saying how this cant be done blahblahblah come on sure it can, it's simple logistics not some super power techniques that only CELL and BLURAY can do. if youre too lazy to get up and change a disc you should be too lazy to come on N4G and b!tch about it. anyone who has played oblivion 360 knows how much game can be fit on a singleDVD9; 2 DVD9's could handle a huge game.

[Nicosia]

There is no big deal if it goes multi though, thats what i can understand about people. We all know the ps3 version will be better, its built on the hardware. if you read the articale right there mosly fussing about how ''slugish'' the sales have been, but they make a valit point. My opinion though.. next year i think ps3 will sell like hotcakes. For now it will sell good.

[Nicosia]

Don't you just love the disagree button. Just tell me what i said wrong. Last i checked n4g was a news and discussion website. Have the balls to show your opinion.

[WIIIS1]

You want to know why the disagrees? Easy.

Your comment that "we all know the ps3 version will be better" completely defies all empirical trends in nextgen games thus far.

Your comment that "ps3 will sell like hotcakes... for now it will sell good" is a futile and baseless attempt to console yourself as to the present and likely future plight of PS3.

In short, we disagree with your wishful thinking.

[Nicosia]

ahhh somebody who got the balls. I don't realy agree with ya though, but i can see what your going for. Personally i think its will sell, but to compete. I never stated it will be ''massive'' but will sell when '"THE'' games come out for the PS3. I myself am buying it for the exlusives, and also the X360 wich has a great line up also btw (Eternal Sonata,Lost Odessy!).

[Morbius420]

I diagree because I'm not sure hotcakes sell all that well.

[i Shank u]

I agree that PS3 vers. would be better b/c it is designed for it, dont forget PS3 version of oblivion is better cause it had more dev. time so it got enhanced shaders etc., which could happen if MGS4 came out on 360 a year later then PS3. PS3 versions of games lately been worse then 360's versions, dont forget that. The PS3 hardware may be overhyped graphically, just like the 360 was underhyped graphically(called xbox 1.5 by sony) until they showed Gears of War. you dont hear sony saying that garbage anymore. bottom line- wherever MGS4 is played, it is going to be King Sicness. Kojima knows how to make a game with story
by the way i didnt click the agree or disagree buttons, that junk is lame and bottles opinions to a simple yes or no. i write replies, son!

[sonarus]

F'in 360 fanboys disagreen all over d place. If you want mgs4 so bad just buy the ps3 it will be better on that version and think of how many times you will have to get up to change cd's.

[Nicosia]

I defend the ps3 version. But honosly, when Konami is doubting its a serious thing.Its from reuters, which i trust more then (will no say website). If it was just a rumor i would have gladly agreeded with you, but its pretty serious.

[Blasphemy]

This is what MGS4 will look like on 360 LMAO.

http://forums.highdefdigest...

[THC PRITCHARD]

u no what i want to see the x box run MGS4 then blow up cause it can not handle it

if it dose It will be a crap port Like splinter cell was for ps3 from x box
maybe worst

[deadpreacher]

You know 99% of the people here are fools, the rest of us are in danger of you fanboys being contagious!

[i Shank u]

awsome Deadpreacher, + bubbles for that. -i woke up today with an ear infection; thanks to your comment im now going to have my doc. check for fanboys in there.

[mikeslemonade]

Sony needs to pay up. I mean the game doesn't cost that much to make. MS just will lose 50 million on GTA investments and they will lose $1 billion on warrantys and repairs. All it takes is 10 milliion to secure the deal. I don't see MGS4 making money at all even if it gets released on both platforms, so it doens't make sense. Just pay up Sony!

[Observer]

... sold like an average of 3 million copies per game. That definitely leaves Konami and MGS as a force to be reckoned. But certainly that doesn't spell the end of the console wars. But if this is true ( and I doubt i't not, since Reuters is a respectable source ) , well then that's a heavy punch for Sony.

It's MGS for pete's sake.

Sony fans would feel now, as Nintendo fans felt when Final Fantasy became on Sony.

I hope I won't sound like a fanboy saying this ( I don't own any "next-gen console", btw ) .. but i believe MGS series would lose some of it's magic, going multiplatform and everything just like your average game whose makers are insecure about sales offsetting the costs. But on the other side, I guess this is excellent news for X360 fans, they'll get to play an awesome game, which 1 year ago, never thought would come to their console.

[mikeslemonade]

You're absolutely correct on that. Any time you split your resources to make two versions of the game you're hurting the potential of what could have been done with all resources focused on one game.

[THE_JUDGE]

but I would definitely be mad if it went to X360. This is a system seller hands down. As for the FF series going to Sony, imagine if it didn't. We'd have Mario as the main character by now and all the games would have been cartridge based. That would be sad, just sad.

[mikeslemonade]

Sony needs to secure this deal in order to even have a chance to win this generation. MGS series is the 3rd best exclusive in terms of sales on the Sony systems. FF and Gran Turismo sell more, but the perception of losing MGS4 hurts a lot because MGS4 has been universally been the poster game for the PS3.

[hikikimori]

Sounds like Konami have really had a falling out of sorts with Sony.

Off topic, here is a picture I came across (from a very reliable source)
of TheMart and BloodMask playing Gears.
Notice the beautiful HDR lighting on Marts grey sideburns and there are no jaggies to be seen on BloodMasks' belly or handlebar mustache.
Nice!

[Morbius420]

That's absolutely priceless! I always thought that TheMart looked like that guy on South Park that was always pwning the kids on WoW.

[MetalProxy]

Funny... but those are Genesis controllers man.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I think MGS4 may go to the 360, but I don't think it will be announced at E3. Konami may be holding out to see if the PS3 install base increases. For business reasons, it would only make sense to see the game become available to 360 owners. Then again, it would only make sense for every single game to be multiplatform, so we'll have to wait and see.

[fanboy]

They never mention the Xbox360, just the Wii and its incredible salesfigures. So if anything it should be ported to Wii :)

[mattkelly1991]

If it came to the wii it would look like this:

http://unfusion.kunsan.ac.k...

[Bathyj]

Ha whatever. By the time this game comes out there will be 10 million (working) PS3's out there. Userbase isn't going to be a be deal for very long. Thats why exclusive (timed or whatever) have just about stopped jumping ship and even swung the other way in some cases. Its just about the numbers.

Beside, this is Kojima's Baby and no one elses, and he says PS3 is it for the time being. Konami of American and Europe has Fukall to do with it.

[Mr VideoGames]

10 million working PS3's not even 5 million are out now, and even if it does sale 10 Milion Units (which it won't and probably never will) Xbox 360 will triple that

[30ROCK]

WRONG! MGS4 may not come to other consoles, please remove that insanely stupid and misleading title. MGS4 is exclusive to PS3, can't be done on 360 or Wii and Kojima has total control, not Konami.

Metal Gear Solid, the franchise, may come to Xbox 360 and Wii. That's it. Who cares? It's like Wii getting Resident Evil spin-offs and Crystal Chronicles. MS & nintendo get leftovers.

Do NOT misinterpret this sh** as MGS4 to 360. They even mention a Wii (other consoles - plural) version! If Xbots don't want to believe MGS4 can't be done on 360 (it can't, Kojima confirmation), then at least they can accept it can't be done on the last-gen-but-weaker Wii. You can gather from that at least that they do not mean MGS4, but MGS the series.
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DO NOT LET BLOODMASK'S MISINFO SPREAD. NOWHERE DOES HE SAY MGS4! BLOODMASK ADDED THAT FLAMEBAIT HIMSELF!!!
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Also, XBox 360 is far below 12mil. It's actually barely at 10million.

Of course, these two big exclusives are the biggest 3rd party exclusives in the biz. If Sony lost them, they'd be on equal ground FINALLY with everyone else as far as 3rd parties go. For now, and forever as these are exclusives, they are at a huge advantage.

[MetalNCarnet]

he says MGS4 in the article. Your just too shocked to see it.

[30ROCK]

Kazumi is quoted for the following:

"Kitaue said Konami may need to expand the target hardware for its blockbuster fighting game Metal Gear Solid, which has so far been developed for Sony's PlayStation machines, to other consoles in the future to recoup development costs.

"Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps," Kitaue said."

NOWHERE DOES HE SPECIFICALLY MENTION MGS4. THAT'S BECAUSE HE MEANS METAL GEAR SOLID THE FRANCHISE. That began on Playstation, and they want to keep it for the Playstation. As a franchise you IDIOT!

Reuters adds that MGS4 is scheduled for this fiscal year.

Guess you were too f***ing stupid to see that ey?

EDIT: Disagreeing are we? Well @$$hats, looks like I was f***ing right because Bloodmask even changed the title since he saw it was misleading.

[Hayabusa 117]

Desperado, you need to calm down...

I agree with you that MGS is a Playstatioon franchise, but you can't say that MGS4 will never come the 360 with such certainty. Ofcourse he would say plural "consoles" because he want's to keep it vague.

"But we might take steps" he says this referring to his previous statement about MGS being a PS only franchise, which means they may or may not change that. And MGS has gone to other platforms: MGS 2 on the XBox, and Twin Snakes for the Gamecube. MGS4 may go multiplatform, or it may be a new MGS game, or it may be a new Metal Gear game. Or, the series may end with MGS4 on the PS3. Nobody can say for certain at this point.

[FirstknighT]

I'm sure Konami has paid attention to Capcoms profits. Capcom has made tons of money from the 360. Lost Planet and Dead Rising were huge sellers. It's safe to say that they can make ALOT more money if this game came out on the 360.

[7ero H3LL]

regardless of DVD space.the 360 can store up to 2 howers of 720p movies
in 2 gigabites.the 360 uses high def compretion.as for textures and models using hidef compression 16 gigabytes.(3 Dullayer DVDs)the 360 and ps3 are not so far apart.(in raw power)GOW's engine epic sad is just a beta.(think about that...)