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Bioshock 2: A Disappointing Sequel

InsightBits writes, "I still remember many of my experiences with the original Bioshock. From the early encounter with the maniac splicer that attempted to get inside the elevator to the one that had a magnum in a baby stroller calling it out as her child. Perhaps what was most impressive was the story of how a society that wanted to be free from things it considered a hindrance, itself transformed to a psychotic society yet still maintained a hint of humanity. The reason why I remember my experiences in Bioshock is because the game was a stunning and truly amazing experience. Unfortunately, there is nothing that comes close to this in Bioshock 2."

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callahan095588d ago

I think it's an awesome sequel. The story isn't as good or as unique, and the whole thing doesn't have that same feeling of "new", but overall, I do think this one is more fun. The level designs are excellent, some of the refined mechanics are a definite improvement (the hacking, the research, ADAM harvesting, underwater segments, etc.), there are much better gene tonics this time around, and just overall, I think it's the better game from the strict perspective of design and implementation of gameplay. It's not as fresh, no, but it's absolutely a BLAST to play.

NewZealander5587d ago

at first i felt disappointed, BS2 felt like a sequel that was trying to cash in on the first games success with very little effort to make it better, but it go so much better as the game went on.

i actually liked the story better, and the more i learned through audio diarys the less i felt like i was playing as some emotionless big daddy, i started to really feel for the main character.

and i loved the game play twists near the end of the game, im sure those who have played through the game know what im talking about, its not perfect, but i think overall it is as good as the first game, but being such a unique universe its hard to make a sequel that can surprise the way the first game did, put that out of your head and play BS2, take it for what it is instead of comparing it to the original and you will have a blast.

Shendow5586d ago

I'm pretty happy with it, the online play is about the only thing disappointing, Bioshock should stay a story only game and never a online game.

Co-op Story wouldn't be a to bad of a idea, but I don't know how that would work (1P:Big Daddy-2P:Little Sister/Big Sister).

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Netflix announces Bioshock film in the works

One of the most popular video game franchises of all time is set to receive a Netflix film adaptation, according to an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

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-Foxtrot1224d ago

Gee...can't wait to see how many things they change and stray away from, oh don't forget the miscast actors

Neonridr1224d ago

I have such high hopes because the first game is so near and dear to me. That being said, I'm sure they will mess it up. I'm hoping it's adult rated, and violent. I want to see a Big Daddy put that drill to good use :P

camel_toad1223d ago (Edited 1223d ago )

They're great at butchering stuff but there have also been some gems and surprises.

I never in my life thought I'd like a series based on League of Legends but it was pretty great.

Maybe just maybe they'll do Bioshock justice.

cheetah1223d ago

Priority checklist
- Pander to POC
- Pander to woman
- Pander to LGBTQ
- Story

In that order

Silly Mammo1223d ago

Damn! It sure sucks when white men aren't the sole focus of everything! Why can't these fringe groups be kept on the fringes like the good ole days?!? /s

senorfartcushion1223d ago (Edited 1223d ago )

Virgin detector

*****SCREEEECH*****

Vx_1223d ago

Remove the story and I totally agree with the list

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senorfartcushion1223d ago

You can cast who you want as a director. Don’t be sulky.

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Knightofelemia1224d ago

Netflix did well with Dare Devil and the Punisher and I hear the Witcher is pretty good I know when I had Netflix at the time Stranger Things was also good. But Bioshock I love the franchise Bioshock Infinite is my favorite game I would pay the $21 Canadian just to check out Bioshock. Normally I would never renew my Netflix after they did their price hike but Bioshock would be worth it.

LoveSpuds1224d ago

When firing on all cinders, Netflix do produce some brilliant stuff so I am not feeling pessimistic at all here. If Netflix deliver to their potential then this could be incredible given the quality of the source material. Personally, I am quite excited.

EvertonFC1223d ago

Agreed, Netflix originals etc are fantastic in general, it's rare I don't like something they do.
Certainly not feeling negative with Netflix doing bioshock quite the opposite infact.

Ashunderfire861223d ago (Edited 1223d ago )

Bu bu bu bu but what about Cowboy Beebop though? That was a little miss opportunity. Just a little nervous that Bioshock could turn to crap 💩 like that show. If they do a Horizon Zero Dawn show, I hope they don’t screw that up as well. I know a few good actresses that could play Aloy like Jon Snow’s girlfriend from Game of Thrones, and his wife in real life. Definitely see Aloy in her.

Livingthedream1223d ago

Netflix does a lot of great things, recently finished the first season of Arcane and it was brilliant.

MadLad1223d ago

Arkane was so damn good.
I just hope they keep up the quality with later releases.

I'm not even a LoL player.

Livingthedream1223d ago

I’m sure they will, I don’t play the games either, I love the fact that I didn’t need to play them to enjoy it.

Michiel19891223d ago

Arcane was insanely good imo, I was hooked almost all the way. Im not sure of this but i think Netflix didnt have much to do with the production of the show? More like they just bought the rights to have it exclusively on there?

Some of their original shows are really good so im quite hopeful this might turn out to be a good show. Lets hope they wont F it up.

Nacho_Z1224d ago

Love Bioshock but I'll prepare myself for the likelihood this will be both crap and a pale imitation of the source material. That covers most video game adaptations and Netflix films.

dumahim1224d ago

How many have they done? It sounds like Witcher and Castlevania have done well.

Nacho_Z1224d ago

I meant Netflix films in general, there are some good ones but most are average at best in my experience. Castlevania is good but I didn't like The Witcher, although it is successful.

Not sure if there are any live action video game film adaptations on Netflix as yet but they don't have a great track record.

dumahim1223d ago

@ Nacho
For movies, I think it’s very difficult to cram he narrative from a 10+ hour game into 2 hours. I think that’s why series are much better suited for video game adaptations. Seems we have a bunch coming up, so we’ll see how well it plays out.

Terry_B1224d ago

Why are PS2 and Wii and even the PS Vita tagged?

Atom6661223d ago

The Vita tag stung a little bit extra.

Atticus_finch1224d ago

Starring Tom Holland I'm guessing.

FlavorLav011224d ago

Haha. Now if it was a Sony movie, very likely

Outlawzz1224d ago

Lol the Tom Holland craze is real

Terry_B1224d ago

Kevin Nash is going to play the..Big Daddy.

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Ranking the BioShock Games From Worst to Best

The best games are able to create a never-before-seen setting and weave a completely engaging story into its DNA. One series beats almost all others out for its environmental storytelling and narrative: BioShock.

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Inverno1396d ago

Infinite better than 2? No way

roadkillers1396d ago

IMO Infinite is better than 2... The only thing I remember from 2 is playing as a little sister. It felt too much like Bioshock (which wasn't bad). Infinite was the right stepping stone.

Inverno1395d ago

Infinite was a huge step back. It played like a generic fps because it was dumbed down to be an fps and it's not at all the gameplay evolution Bioshock needed. It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries against dumb AI while making you look for health in trash cans cause they removed mechanics that worked in favor for a more action oriented gameplay.
I think people are remembering Infinite all wrong.
It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio.

LucasRuinedChildhood1395d ago (Edited 1395d ago )

@Inverno

"It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries"
Sounds more applicable to Bioshock 2, tbh. B2 has wave-based gameplay where Subject Delta casually goes through large hordes of splicers to protect Little Sisters. C'mon. I still wouldn't call any of the Bioshocks mindless shooters though.

If you want to criticize the lack of the weapon wheel and the replacement of certain mechanics in Infinite in favour of increased mobility (e.g. addition of the sky-hook), fair enough, but the story and world-building of 2 are less memorable, noteworthy and interesting than Infinite by a huge margin. Most people don't even remember much beyond the basic premise of 2 (including any of the characters) because it felt so unnecessary. It's not even close.

"It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio." Needing to use Bioshock 1 to criticize Infinite instead of 2 is an admission that 2's story is the weakest.

roadkillers1395d ago

@Inverno

I remember it being very imaginative and a breath of fresh air, while still being familiar. The last hour or two was big on shooting.

SegaSaturn6691395d ago

Infinite was the most boring and repetitive in terms of gameplay. It lost the suspenseful atmosphere of the first 2

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SonyPS3601395d ago (Edited 1395d ago )

Am I reading that backwards or are you really shocked that people like infinite more than 2?

Just wanna make sure I have it right because you're literally the first person I've seen say that 2 is better.

Inverno1395d ago

I understand 2 is more of the same but I much prefer more of the same than going backwards in terms of gameplay. It wasn't the step in the right direction. But thats just my opinion, I'm not surprised at all. Just to me I much rather the first 2. However what they had planned for Infinite originally sounded very interesting and it sucks we won't ever see it

Concertoine1395d ago (Edited 1395d ago )

Imo 2 is tied with 1 as my favorite Bioshock. The gameplay is the natural evolution of the first, with more freedom to experiment. The story and locales are more intimate and less grandiose than you would see in a Ken Levine story. I love the atmospheric break of the underwater sections and never understood the hate for them. All 3 games have pacing issues but imo 2’s are less severe. The level design has a lot of ex-Looking Glass alumnis and is generally more open ended.

The endings are more tailored to your moral choices than the other games.

Infinite hedges on a admittedly cool twist that is poorly executed when scrutinized. The gameplay takes a huge step back, it isnt the game that early gameplay and trailers promised. The world is less fleshed out. It was prescient politically and that makes it interesting but otherwise i have no desire to replay it.

Yui_Suzumiya1395d ago

2 had better gameplay but 3 had a better story

leahcim1396d ago (Edited 1396d ago )

Hurts to see the word "worst" related to Bioshock saga.
The 3 games are masterpieces.

ScootaKuH1396d ago

Bioshock 2
Bioshock
Bioshock Infinite

That was easy

Rebel_Scum1396d ago

oh great. Can’t wait to see the posts of game titles in a ranked order without context as to why.

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BioShock 2's director reveals what could have been a different BioShock

In a podcast with Wassup Conversations, Jordan Thomas, director and the writer of BioShock 2 reveals his initial ideas for a new rapture and how they were shut down by 2K.
"My first proposal was about a little sister, it was playing as a little sister and it was much more horror-oriented pace and about vulnerability, closer to Thief frankly, but I was told no, we want it to be our Gears of War, this need to be a big shooter franchise with an emphasis on the shooter element, and so what I think of the protagonist of a shooter as is a big lumbering sort of porthole on a stick with guns sticking out in front like you’re almost a vehicle."

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plainview10301916d ago

And he also wanted it to be above the sea or in space. What a wasted opportunity.

Nacho_Z1915d ago

It's surprising the game turned out to be good with this guy at the helm. The combat mechanics were actually the biggest improvement in the sequel as much as he wouldn't want to hear that, everything else was inferior.