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Gamespot: MAG Review

MAG's big battlefields are a great place to wage war, as long as you can handle some of the rigors of combat.

Video Review: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/mag/video/6249275/mag-video-review

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-Alpha5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

The Good

* Well-integrated command structure
* Quick, tense action
* Lots of ways to make your mark on the battlefield
* Large, well-designed maps.

The Bad

* Can be tough to get a command post
* Some technical awkwardness
* Occasional connectivity issues.

Seems like a fair review. They liked the game, and an 8.0 is a great score. I really hope people don't complain about it being too low.

Also I'm surprised that they were more generous than IGN. Usually it's the other way around.

Also, note that the pros and cons don't dictate the score. It's just a quick rundown.

I want to say that I am very impressed with MAG's score overall. I truly didn't expect AAA, but I was expecting AA at the most and I was even thinking that it would average something as low as 6.5

I am glad I was wrong. Dead wrong. I went from not being interested to wanting to buy it or at least try it.

@jack

I was never too confident with WKC, but I may pick it up sometime down the road.

jack_burt0n5346d ago

so does the fact that they gave monster hunter freedom unite a 6.5 make u a bit more optimistic about white knight?

mickross1235346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

@Alpha Its like you just read my mind and typed before I even thought of it. I totally agree with you and I am glad that they spent about a week before writing their review for it, I'm gonna get this for sure now just becuase of this review ... well this and the S.V.E.R. video.

SB_tanker5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

In my book, I don't think its reasonable to score this game lower than a 7/10. I would rate it about a 8/10 - 8.5. 9/10 is kinda pushin it a bit IMO. As for connectivity issues, I don't experience any lag except for the 1 occasional hiccup every 10-15 games. That alone is impressive but the fact that you can be in a full game of 256 players at once and not experience ANY lag at all is a HUGE accomplishment. Especially for a console game.

The graphics may not be up to par with many other games this gen...but are in no way ugly.

To be honest, I didn't think Zipper could pull it off this well. And I think it'll only get better in the coming weeks/months once all the MW2 noobs start filtering out. ;)

pansenbaer5346d ago

I don't quite understand the negatives.

* Can be tough to get a command post - What is he talking about? Like, capturing a command post? or getting a command position?

* Some technical awkwardness - This one I some what understand. I always thought the holding of the gun looked pretty awkward. Was there anything else?

* Occasional connectivity issues. - Meh, it must be pretty rare. I've played close to 30 or 40 matches and never really experienced any issues.

Good score overall. I'm loving the game so far and I hope more people buy it.

-Alpha5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Unrelated: Pretty big Muse fan myself. They are coming to my city and I hope that I can go see them :)

Anyways, they mentioned that the connectivity issues were very rare, but they still reported them.

Technical awkward issues are a given-- the animation and some technical kinks are expected in a massive game like this

And I'm thinking he means command position-- watch the video review.

@nix

Ironically enough, the last time I followed my instinct on a game it ended up becoming my GOTY (Demon's Souls FYI).

But I can't just simply pick up MAG. Read comment 8.0 I explain it there.

And yes, I'm waiting for BC2 so I can't just buy MAG on impulse.

Shang-Long5346d ago

Finally pickin up mag after work today. Was in two betas now ready for the real thing. Sad this is the only game I can afford to pick up for Jan AND Feb :(

pansenbaer5346d ago

I'll watch the video sometime. I'm on my little netbook and videos take forever to load. :)

I got tickets for their show in Colorado. Can't wait!

nix5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

dude.. i think you should just buy the game. you've been in every MAG article trying to make up your mind. i think the general thread has been very positive about the whole game. do it now unless you're waiting for something else or time to pass by. q:

follow your instinct. lol.

edit: @alpha:

lol.. i already know about your "Demon's Souls" story. q:

ThanatosDMC5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Something about MAG that really pissed me off today was an a-hole OIC. He has the ability to talk to everyone on the SVER side and he wouldnt shut the f*** up. He just kept on talking, cussing, saying everybody should suck his d*ck, talking about how to take a sh*t, how he wants to f*ck 14 yr old girls or younger, racist comment, etc.

It wasnt even funny. I'd forgive it if it was actually humorous but it wasnt. There was no way to kick him since he's not in our squad. That totally ruined it for me. It's like he had a mic that accepted any noise or words that came from his side. You can even hear background music.

Nope, there was no way to mute him or kick him or ban him. His name was like KlNGBUNS or something. Clan [CPK]. His clan was his squad so no one would kick him.

@ Alpha

You're beating Bungie at this. Teh conspiracies!

BWS19825346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

and oh, where are those couple 360 trolls here? I see they have a mystique about them, absent when this game gets a "good" review (though not perfect, sure it could improve), but they're present in all their rabid, frothy idiocy jumping up and down like apes when the game gets a 6 from some statistically proven biased site like EDGE...Wow, you guys aren't transparent at all!

I wish I could save up more money than I am (moving next month) so I could grab this one. I know it's a blast, and it will be mine eventually...

Aquanox5345d ago

This is the website Sony boys expected to score the game the highest. 8/10.

Solid yes. Must have, No.

WKS and MAG haven't been a good kick off for this year. Lets see what Heavy Rain has to offer when non biased (and non french) reviews surface.

raztad5345d ago

@aquanox

LOL. What is the difference between solid or must have? a good game is a good game. You should try playing more games and less reviews.

Every time I come across a review that tells me MAG is a 7 I just laugh at it. Why? because I OWN the damn game, and I have been playing the crap out of it.

Any hardcore FPS player passing on MAG is just a fool.

jack_burt0n5345d ago

lol aqua, splintercell delayed "for technical reasons" yeah the game hit 10 fps at points, dont count ur chickens.

frostypants5345d ago (Edited 5345d ago )

"I went from not being interested to wanting to buy it or at least try it."

Two things made me a believer:
1) The 128 player mob video the other day
2) Watching people play it via justin.tv (I strongly recommend this for any prospective purchase...short of playing it, nothing gives a more thorough impression of a game than watching someone else play it live)

It does remind me of Warhawk quite a bit. Graphically solid but not spectacular, but vast in scope and rewarding those who play it "right".

As for review scores, to me the only difference between an 8 and a 9 is this: a 9 implies that just about everyone will love it, where as an 8 is more niche. If you enjoy the niche, then it may be a 9/10 to you. This brings up Warhawk again...that is one of my top 10 all time favorite games, even though some can't stand it.

FragGen5345d ago (Edited 5345d ago )

Like you, despite liking the game, I had expected a much lower meta-score for MAG. It's not a slam-dunk everyone-should-play-this-game affair with ultra production values that merits large numbers of 9+ ratings.

That said, I <3 MAG BIG TIME, personally, but, IMHO, there's going to be a mass exodus from this game when BFBC2 hits. I think that'll be a double-edged sword...

A LOT of those folks will be n00bs or people who were not willing to commit to a clan/squad, etc. So, if that leaves us with a little more seasoned/serious user base who are looking to squad up right, but whose overall numbers are above critical mass, then the overall MAG experience may get MUCH better, real quick.

BUT, if there are not enough hardcore players left... well, I play mostly around midnight and even I'm not into it enough to sit in a queue for 30 minutes to play an online game where there are not enough players.

Anyway we'll see how it plays out. Zipper has a history of supporting their titles, etc, and I think they have a lot of talent. So I'm still optimistic, overall... This game has been pretty special for me so far, so I hope it'll have a long shelf life!

Milky5345d ago

I didn't like the beta but the full game really is great fun. I recommend everyone to get it, you won't be dissapointed.

BWS19825345d ago

...and look who showed up. See, transparent. You're a joke, where did anybody claim it's God's FPS game or whatever you've dreamed up? No where. You're just too enraged to notice, as you lurch the site for places to dump your fecal posts on with red checks and sweaty palms, and it's killing you that people can like something on a system that keeps you up at night.

Here's an idea, why don't you try to play games as a general rule. Since many of us gamers also have 360's or even Wii's and love certain aspects of them, have our fav games on them, etc...then maybe we're the level headed ones (gamers) who hate only one thing: fanboyism like yours. Nobody will take your post as a legitimate opinion even, that should tell you something.

nycredude5345d ago

This is the most informative, unbiased, fair and accurate review of MAG so far. I agree with gamespot 100%. The game is a solid 8 and could be more if you are a counerstrike and socom fan.

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happy_gilmore5346d ago

i don't care about the reviews, anymore. if i like a game based on what i see, then i'll buy it. got duped with mass defect 2. that game got 10's but i only played it for 5 hours and got so bored (same thing with dragon's age, which will be traded in tomorrow).

dtrain215346d ago

Metacritic- 75

MAG- Major Flop

JeffGUNZ5345d ago

How are you bored by Mass Effect 2, are you playing the game with the volume on Mute? You're such a hypocrite it's hilarious. Reviews matter when UC2 and KZ2 do well, but when MAG gets 7.5-8.0 the reviews magically don't matter? The reviews for MAG are good, 7-8 is a good review. You haven't played Mass Effect 2, just because you try and say you did play it, doesn't give you any credibility when you're an obvious fanboy. Mass Effect 2 is probably the best single player experience I have played this generation and possibly, best single player game I have played ever.

showtimefolks5346d ago

i think when its all set and done we will see this game get 8/10 overall rating combined

this game is a love/hate thing ign might have had bad experience 7/10 nothing wrong its their experience

online experience can be different for everyone who play

best way to play is JOIN OR MAKE A CLAN than this is a must have

this game will be great in the long run zipper's will update everything in this game over the next few months to make this a better experience

zippers's and sony should be given credit atleast 256 players online lag free so stop hating show some respect we all want something new so now here is something new

hanzai5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

and 360 fangirls are nowhere to be found.

but wait! i see dtrain21 and his little skirt giving disagrees with his multiple accounts!

JeffGUNZ5345d ago

It's probably because 360 "fanboys" are not as common in PS3 related articles as PS3 fanboys are in 360 sections. Either way, game looks fun and excited to try it out.

showtimefolks5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

256 players
best graphics
lag free
single player story
better texture
better player models

i mean 256 and lag free should be good enough but we still get good looking game

gameplay is important graphics come 2nd

but the way people talk about tthis game graphics 1st gameplay 2nd how many console shooter have gone over 100 players?

atleast we are looking at huge online battles in the upcoming game

thanks you zippers and sony take a risk and this game will have latge community given some time right now it has a very strong community and its only gonna get better

DJ5346d ago

Over the coming months. Though it's obvious that even the PS3 isn't powerful enough to meet the demands of this FPS Concept. MAG's future installment on the PS4 will probably blow people's minds. But that's at least 6 years away.

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MAG was one of the most ambitious shooters ever and deserves a PS5 sequel

Zipper Interactive were once one of Sony's most important studios and became a household name due to their work on the SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs series during the PlayStation 2's heyday. Their most ambitious title was MAG. Could it make a comeback?

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yellowgerbil1700d ago

Best game ever. I had put over 1700hrs into that game before it deteriorated too far with cheaters getting out of the map and sadly decided it was time to let it die (Zipper had already been closed down by that time).

_SilverHawk_1700d ago

Amazing game. Hopefully sony makes a sequel

XisThatKid1700d ago

This is the game in modern gaming that even got me into shooters i spent literally days with this game Raven All the way. War against the the mighty D ride oh so edgy S.V.E.R.

NecrumOddBoy1700d ago

Original Battle Royale. No microtransactions. Definitely ahead of time.

XBox4eva691700d ago

It's almost as far from battle royale as you can get. o_O

frostypants1700d ago

It didn't have a BR mode.

Da12RespectA1699d ago

That wasn't a battle royale game at all.

rdgneoz31699d ago

3 teams of 32 fighting it out would be considered Battle Royaleish. If you're gonna saying teams are OK when you start doing teams of 2 or 3 or 4, then 32v32v32 should work. And on besides that, it had 128 v 128 which was insanely fun.

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Muzikguy1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

I personally hadn't played much of it. I did spend a lot of time in PlanetSide 2 though (somewhat like MAG). Games like these tend to get overrun by cheaters and then ruined too often.

Teflon021700d ago

MAG didn't have that issue as far as I remember. I use to love the 256 matches. That game had an amazing community. Everyone actually communicated and played together. No one B****ed at the team. Everyone understood there was so much going on that if things are going wrong. Everyone had to think of new strategies.
Fav moment was when all 3 other squads 32 took their objectives but we were struggling with ours and had one more to blow up. The other leaders were communicating asking if the 2 nearest squads should send ppl. Our leader was like Naw I got a idea. So he told us all to die and set ourselves at the nearest hills prone without being seen. So we all did and surrounded the areas.
He said everyone on his count throw your grenades. Then snipers go all out and everyone else run in. They won't be able to get everyone and if needed the snipers go in about 10 seconds after.

Everyone did that and I got to the objective and set it off. 9 of us survived and got it. felt amazing to say I got the objective, cover me in that moment. Wish it was PS4 so I could have saved that moment
It was literally the coolest moment I had in a online shooter, closest since was BF4.

Muzikguy1700d ago

@Teflon

That does indeed sound like an awesome moment. One that makes games like these memorable for sure. It does seem like MAG had a lot more cooperation than most any online shooter

Teflon021700d ago

It did because you absolutely can't get no where in it without teamwork. It also didn't have an extremely big base of players. Everyone who played really wanted to play. I really hope they bring it back and do the same thing to only have serious players get into the big matches again

UltraNova1700d ago

Wow, what a run! This game looks better than PUBG!

Muzikguy1700d ago

Watching that video you wouldn't think the game was on PS3.

Spenok1700d ago

I adored this game too. Some of my best FPS online memories on it. So freaking good.

I'd love to see another game like this come out at some point. And NOT like Planetside... M.A.G. was something special.

yellowgerbil1700d ago

Yeah problem is if it existed now adays, it would likely be riddled with xp boosts and dance moves and all that other pay garbage...
MAG and Warhawk are the only 2 online games I ever got into, and both need a PROPER sequel on PS5.
Remember the first time I got 100 kills in a match, was in a turret with a repair kit and just mowed down wave after wave on Valors map.

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PrinceOfAnger1700d ago

I had so much fun with this game

TGGJustin1700d ago

This is a game that was ahead of its time. Had it came out on PS4 it would've done much better. I put hundreds of hours into this despite the problems it had on PS3.

UnholyLight1700d ago

Really interesting as an Xbox owner at the time. This game had captured my interest as a kid but I never got a chance to play it. Being on PS4 and soon possibly PS5, I would love to see this franchise brought back to life. I imagine with the power of next gen it would be really quite fun.

From what I hear and what I remember, this game was FAR ahead of it's time. A real shame it never truly took off from my understanding.

grifter0241700d ago

I'm an xbox boy since mech warrior but got a ps3 slim for mag. If you liked halo or cod you'd have had a blast in mag. Was one of the first games you could actually do something other than shooting and still make a difference in game.

spicelicka1699d ago

PS4 needs something like it. In the multiplayer space it's far behind the Xbox, there are no quality multiplayer games on it that aren't on other consoles.

Dirtnapstor1700d ago

Yes, yes, and yes. Way ahead of it's time. Would love to see a PS5 variant of this game.

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Modern Warfare Ground War mode has MAG vibes

Erina Rose, Sausage Roll writes, "Call of Duty: Modern War introduced a new, improved, Ground War game mode this weekend that reminds us of the old PlayStation 3 classic, MAG."

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ilikestuff1825d ago (Edited 1825d ago )

I never played mag, I did play this beta however, and if mag was like this beta then (fart noises) for mag.

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TheGamez1001825d ago

Man do I miss mag and zipper.

TheSinsibleOne1825d ago

Seriously though. Nowadays this and next gen are practically begging for a new MAG.

zodiac9091825d ago

How did we go from having games like resistance 1, 2, warhawk with 30 vs 30 player battles, and M.A.G. with 128 vs 128 players, ON LAST GEN to now having 20 vs 20...such a step back.

JEECE1825d ago

Because Sony hadn't figured out how to market their exclusives yet. Plus at that time COD craze was at its peak. So "generic high school bro #7," who was the primary purchaser of FPSs at that time (or at least represented a crowd necessary to sustain a playerbase), if he even had a PS3, would have just seen a game like MAG as a "copycat of Black Ops, man."

Not to mention MAG was pretty terribly uninviting for new people after awhile, because it was more skill-based. This was great for veterans, but if you weren't willing to put in the time getting destroyed for awhile, you would never appreciate the game. The Battlefield: Bad Company and BF:3 games out during that gen were far more accessible to lower level players.

Vegamyster1825d ago

Battlefield 4 was at the start of the generation and had 64 players, to me it depends more on how the map/gameplay is utilized, i enjoyed the 20vs20 modes more in the MW Beta than the 64 player ground war mode.

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moomoo3191825d ago

It feels absolutely nothing like MAG lol. Way more battlefield vibes

xX-oldboy-Xx1825d ago

And even those are very small vibes, it still feels like COD at the end of the day.

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MAG: The Greatest Game You Never Played

Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out and most of you probably never heard of it, never got to play it and never will.

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FiLTHY ESKiMO1944d ago

Who would the next gen version nor that Zippers gone?

_SilverHawk_1944d ago

I remember this game and it was amazing. I would like it if Sony would make another one because this game was ahead of it's time.

RememberThe3571943d ago

It was an amazing concept and it was a cool game, it was just ahead of it's time. I played the sh!t outta MAG, but the game itself played just okay. I'd love to have seen a sequel, even just a spiritual successor, especially with the next gen coming and the way cloud computing has advanced a game like that nowadays would be awesome.

Elwenil1943d ago

It may have been amazing if you played for SVER, but if you played for Raven or Valor, it was an unbalanced mess. I had some fun with it, but the player count was an illusion at best and false advertising at it's worst. The map and faction balance was so ridiculously skewed you knew who was going to win as soon as you saw what team you were against. It definitely had some interesting ideas, but was far from an amazing experience in my opinion. I would have much rather Zipper have made another SOCOM game rather than MAG.

darthv721943d ago

that game would make for a great battle royale release. So many players all at once... it was ahead of its time for a console shooter.

TheGamez1001944d ago

Was such an underrated game. One of my most favorite fps of last gen. So unfortunate zipper was closed down. Imagine if it was a success and thered be a 2nd game by now.....

TekoIie1944d ago (Edited 1944d ago )

I can think of many better games that I've yet to play...

"Almost 10 years ago the greatest first person shooter came out"

HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better. I'm afraid that MAG is basically your standard FPS but uses scale as it's selling point. The vast majority of shooters that focus on smaller scale matches have gameplay leaps and bounds better than MAG so it is definitely not the greatest FPS.

I know many people are going to try and refute this by telling me to look at the three factions but MAG has literally no character. The game is call 'Massive. Action. Game' for gods sake which is a contender for 'The Worst Title a Game Could Have' award. I've never been a fan of Zipper but I hear great things about them from their PS2 days. However, with MP gaining popularity in the generation that followed I think it says a lot that they couldn't keep up with the competition.

Knushwood Butt1944d ago

'HAH. So is Planetside 2 now the best FPS ever? Because it does everything MAG can and does it far better.'.

It was released years later.

Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?

TekoIie1944d ago

"Was there anything offering what MAG did when MAG was released?"

Yes, Planetside 1.

Knushwood Butt1944d ago

Fair enough.

Can't say I've played it, but I enjoyed MAG for a while.

FantasticBoss1943d ago

MAG was one of the very few games trying to do scale like it did, but I think it missed the mark. Wish it could have had a sequel though as they may have been able to iterate on it to create something pretty neat.

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Profchaos1942d ago

Sony had a awesome approach to online in the PS2 days with SOCOM co op that had games working together to achieve a tactical goal they pioneered voice chat on the PS2 for SOCOM but as they steamrolled ahead it was clear team Deathmatch would take over in popularity which shifted zippers approach so all their experience amounted for not much when designing online in the PS3 era.
It still was a decent game but couldn't stand out compared to cod which had millions of players consistently

yellowgerbil1944d ago

Loved mag had over 1700hrs into it across many accounts, remember my first 100 kill sabotage game, was insane

BLow1943d ago

Yes, so do I and not that game they released on PS3. I'm talking the one Zipper did and not Slant Six. At least Slant Six tried to do the series justice once they fixed the issues.

The one Zipper did didn't feel like Socom to me. It felt more like Ghost Recon to be honest. I absolutely loved the voice commands and I figured they would be even better on next gen hardware. They didn't even bother doing anything.

Maybe, I just wanted it more grounded and not so techy if that makes sense. I just wanted to go into jungles or missions just using my wits and patience and not have to use a bunch of gadgets. I wanted to be able to give orders with my voice to squad members. Yeah, they can at least have earpieces lol.

It's hard to explain but I know the old school Socom players know what I'm saying. Socom just had a certain feeling and the new game didn't feel that way. Slant Six yes. Zipper no...

We can only hope but if they bring it back they have to do it right. If not don't bother and just make something new. I rather have the memories I had with Socom be mostly positive than negative. Unless you pull a God of War, don't bother lol.

I've already said too much but that goes to show how much I loved Socom. Especially 1 and 2.....

Deathdeliverer1943d ago (Edited 1943d ago )

Game was simply ahead of its time. If mag came out now with improved graphics people would be blown away. Back then people whined about the graphics even though it had players literally everywhere. It was several great games in one. Battlefield, Ghost Recon, and Call of duty.

Hungryalpaca1943d ago

What exactly was it ahead of its time in? Player count? Planetside released in 2003 and and played count per match was over 300.

xkvcq1942d ago (Edited 1942d ago )

The BETA for MAG was one of my fondest gaming moments. I was highly anticipating the start of the beta servers but I had school that day. I had started downloading it that morning as soon as it was available and just when it finished downloading I found out school was cancelled, last minute, because of weather. BEST. SNOW DAY. EVER. I played the beta all day, continuing to put off my homework :P

TekoIie1942d ago (Edited 1942d ago )

Well have I got news for you pal! Planetside 2 has been available for nearly 4 years on the PS4 and longer on PC and people still aren't blown away. Maybe the novelty of scale is actually overrated and people don't care as much about it which is why MAG failed when multiplayer shooters were at peak popularity during it's lifetime?

If you were blown away by 256 players in 2010 why would you not have been blown away by 1000 roughly 2-3 years later?

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