God Of War III 'only possible on PS3'

CVG: Sony claims gorgeous-looking title could not have been developed for any other system

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

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[ssipmraw]

haha halo fans were probably hoping to see his face in halo 3 all to no end

[Johnny Rotten]

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[heylo]

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[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

ONLY ON...AND ONLY POSSIBLE ON THE...
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+ I played the Demos of - 'Dante's Inferno' + 'Bayonetta' + 'God Of War 3'
And 'God Of War 3' Looks 100% better than the other 2 games!!! ;-P
+ The 'God Of War 3' demo is a old demo from 'E3 2009'!!! ;-D
(i.e it will look even better in 2010 when it comes out)

[Trebius]

They're all in here trying to downplay a game they'll never get to play :)

PS3 owners RENT Bayonetta, RENT Dante's Inferno, but PURCHASE GoW3, cause that's the Genre defining experience.

You fan betches can cry all you want it wont make GoW any less epic, and it wont make DI or Bayonetta any better. We all know Bayonetta and DI are good games, but they dont come close to the Story/Gameplay/Graphics of GoW3.

Keep crying fangirls.

YOU HAVE NO GAMES

So you spend time downplaying PS3 exclusives while waiting for a game to hit your systems.

Hahaha YOU HAVE NO GAMES little boys.

[Convas]

Look at all these Whores, bubbling and agreeing with each other. Keep jerking each other off Fangirls. It's quite entertaining.

Open Zone: It only does Corporate Prostitutes.

[xcox]

nice pictures guys
bubbles on da house!

[Blu Ray3]

If you hate the American company Microsoft,welcome to N4G and enjoy your stay lol.

[Pirateogta]

Reading your posts is like listening to a crazy person yell "I'm not crazy. No, I'm NOT crazy!!!!" as they get hauled away in a straightjacket down an asylum hall.

You've never played GOW III, so you don't know if it will be better than Bayonetta. Well, at least you know it will be better than the PS3 version of Bayonetta, but that's not saying much. And Mass Effect 2 is just as much a genre-defining experience as GOW III, and that will never be on your precious PS3. Face it, 360 owners have just as many quality games as PS3 owners to play this year. Microsoft has a lot up their sleeve this year to make sure it is not a repeat of last year, which was rather lackluster if I may say so myself.

[chrisulloa]

So this is what happens when you let PS3 fanboys roam free without any trolling. They are so full of themselves, I can't help but laugh.

[The Meerkat]

Why can't Sony just play it cool for once?

They know it will be awesome, there is no need for the smack talk.

[kaveti6616]

3 things

Number One... Sony has a relatively small record of smack talk, especially considering Microsoft.

Number Two... Sony owns the IP, so yes, it could never have been made on another platform

Number Three... If Sony is referring to the visual fidelity of the game, then yeah, maybe Sony is right. But then again, maybe they're not. I wouldn't know. I'm not a mind reader, nor a hardware specialist.

[morganfell]

^^^^Exactly. Sony doesn't have the equivalent of a Greenberg.

[PirateThom]

Sony doesn't own the Haze IP.

[Bungie]

the point is that there's no proof

"only possible on PS3" ...where's the proof

the game is ps3 exclusive and will never come to 360

$ony just like to talk crap

anyway i can't wait for the game :)

[rafaleon]

It was funny back in 2007 but now this gimmick is becoming more and more pathetic.

[gaffyh]

Well until we see the game, I don't doubt them. Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are clearly head and shoulders above anything that is available on the Xbox 360. The only people who would argue against that are people that don't have a PS3 and haven't played the games.

[evrfighter]

I don't think anyone at M$ could top

"nex-gen doesn't start till we say it starts"

[we won]

Is *kaveti6616* Talking about? Sony doesn't talk crap? LOL Sony is known to be the biggest sh*t talker ever. I guess on N4Gs the largely pro PS3 and people that favor Sony consoles live in a make believe world.

Sony has been saying games can only be done on PS3 since Lair. Hell before that when Sony reaches for the Sun while MSFT reaches for the Moon. 120fps. Every game in 1080p. 360 games will never match PS3 launch titles in its life. People will buy PS3with no games. People will work more jobs to get PS3. Multi player is laughable.

It's obvious Sony and fanboys know what is coming so they're trying to hype PS3 games now trying to set the tone again. It's not going to work this year too many games coming this year, that show PS3's capabilities are just what Multi platform games show and Sony's release window luck has run out.

[Guido]

There is proof that games like GOWIII are only possible on the PS3. The proof is that in fewer years than the 360, the PS3 has managed to come up with games leading in graphics leaps and bounds over the 360. Even two years after launch, the PS3 had Uncharted, a game that blew all other console games away and yet we have never seen a game as pretty on the 360. In reality, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The PS3 has been around for a year less than the 360 and yet has games that are light years ahead of it in the graphics and IMHO game play departments. Graphics are undisputed and in simple terms there is no game on the 360 that compares to the exclusives available on the PS3.

[Bungie]

@Guido

that's not a proof

that's an opinion

[Lifendz]

Naughty Dog and Guerilla said the same and yet people still discount blu-ray and the PS3 hardware in general.

And the fact that someone needs to bring up Haze as an attempt to refute that statement is pathetic. Certain Devs are more talented than others. If your game is exclusive to the PS3, but your devs don't have the talent to exploit the system, then you can make that claim (it's only possible on PS3) but it won't mean much. Look what Epic does on 360. I think Gears is amazing. If Epic said that the game was only possible on 360 for whatever reason, then I'd take them at their word. Their the devs and I'm not.

Oh and Lair? I bet you never played Lair. Lair is effing gorgeous. And some people, me included, never had a problem with the controls.

[Ju]

It is proof and not opinion. If you come with technical details (like num polys, and some real numbers, crowd size, lightning, physics, what not) than the response usually is "but it doesn't matter, its art direction". If its clearly visibly it gets dissed as opinion. There is no doubt those are facts not just opinions. You can "come as often as you want", xguys, while some will just enjoy those games without argument.

And w/e. Why shouldn't Sony market their own strength. Are they not allowed to do that, but everybody else is or what ?

Let me quote the article (for the people commenting blindly):

"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.

"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."

They don't just toss out words, they came up with facts
(also, read below).

[kws1065]

All SCE games uses a certain HDR technic called "NAO32" developed for Heavenly Sword back in 2007. This technic can't be done in 360 because EDRAM of 360 provides bottleneck.

I am not arguing that 360 games can never be as good as GOW 3, but I am sure that one GOW 3 uses can't be done in 360. Quality of graphic is not about what they use but what they show.

Of course it is not fully proved that GOW3 uses NAO32 but when they talk about HDR specifically, I can easily see what they are talking about.

[Pennywise]

Bungie... you bringing up haze and lair is spam. Enough is enough. 1st party devs did not even make those games.

[mal_tez92]

Let's stop bi+ching at and look at the facts.

-PS3 uses Blu-ray, 25 or 50GB; 360 uses DVD, 4.7 or 9GB - so if a game is bigger than 9GB than it can't be done on 360 without some size reductions (which doesn't always mean reduction in quality)

-Both systems have very different hardware, I'm no expert in which one is more powerful although currently available games show that the PS3 can produce much higher quality sound and visuals.
But, as I have stated, I am no expert, and so I don't consider this as a reason.

-PS3's have a mandatory HDD which developers can take advantage of, most 360's have a HDD but these can't be necessary for the game to run or else it would discriminate against 360 owners who don;t have a HDD

So if we hear developers saying this in the future, it is most likely due to big games that wont fit on a DVD, or games that won't run properly without a HDD. There is also the hardware limitation thing but once again, I'm no expert and am not sure about this.

[gaffyh]

@evrfighter - Just like all ignorance, you take that quote out of context. First of all it was "Next gen starts with us," secondly, Sony said this because they didn't have a console out to compete with Microsoft's Xbox 360.

What did you want them to say? Xbox 360 is awesome, don't wait for a PS3?

This is nowhere near Turn 10, and pretty much everything Greenburg says.

[AssassinHD]

Technically they only stated that they added features that are only possible on the PS3.

[Guido]

Not as much of an opinion as it is a cumulative fact. I along with many others, many of whom are in the media agree that the best looking games are on the PS3 and that those games could not be done on the PS3. Perhaps if one person thought that it might be simply an opinion but when developers and media agree, then you have to admit it's more factual than opinion.

[bacon13]

GoW3 and MGS4 could probably be ported to the 360, but with detrimental effects in the graphics and presentation departments. The 360 just does not have the capabilities to produce the quality of graphics like UC:2, MGS4 and KZ 2 have. I should know, I have numerous exclusives for each system. So is Sony wrong in saying that GoW3 is only possible on the PS3? Yes. Would you want to play GoW3 if it were ported to the 360? Probably not.

[Obelisk92]

This is getting a little old.

Ok, we got it, PS3 is great. Now just release the damn game.

[DaTruth]

People here obviously haven't played Lair; That game looks incredible. I wouldn't doubt that it's only possible on PS3. I didn't like the controls too and their were numerous gameplay problems in it, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the game is a technical marvel!

But GOW3 demo had me jumping out of my seat the same way UC2 truck chase had me jumping out of my seat. After playing UC2, I would have thought I would be immune to that now!

[Eamon]

A lot of first party exclusives make use of the Playstation 3's unique CPU. Of course they cannot be ported because then it will be like designing the game all over again for the xbox 360.
The hardware technology for both CPU's are just that different.

If their CPUs were similar we wouldn't be hearing statements like "its only possible on so-and-so."

[nycredude]

Bungie and other 360 fans. You guys really just need to bite the bullet and get a Ps3, then you will see that what Guido said is NOT an opinion it's facts. I bit the bullet and bought a 360 long ago cause there are some games I just couldn't NOT play but seriously anyone who is NOT a fanb0y and has both console can see that the quality in games are very far apart. I am not saying that 360 has no good games but compare the exclusives and it's very apparent Ps3 is head and shoulders above the competition.

That is how Sony corner the last gen and the one before, and it's how they will do it again. Natal, online, home, netflix streaming, linux, firmware, movies, music, bluray, motion control, they are all cool bells and whistle but in the end it's all about the games.

[AKNAA]

"the point is that there's no proof

"only possible on PS3" ...where's the proof "

Have you heard of this xbox 360 exclusive called "Ninja blade"?... wasn't it suppose to be a GOW/ Ninja gaiden competitor/ or Killer?? LOL! what a Joke!

that 360 exclusive can't even complete with the GOW collection! which was made last gen on the ps2, but just in HD now... so how do you expect GOW3 to run on the 360?? seriously, wake up man!

[Sarevok]

Bungie this is all I have to say to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Perkel]

@ Bungie

Lair is graphic beast.

lvl mealstorm :

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

watch 1:46

i'm yet to see any game on x360 with so many things on screen

i agree with haze part. Sometimes it look good but sometime it look like sh-t

[Budg3tG4m3r]

Sony has done this before and its come back at them. if Sony hasn't learned from that mistake it's because they don't want to. Fanboys will eat this up but my advice to you all is to stay away from this. Remember when it was said Killzone 2 couldn't be done on the 360? Yah and remember when that has been proven wrong? MS and Sony should learn to shut it sometimes.

[edgeofblade]

"Sony has a relatively small record of smack talk, especially considering Microsoft. "

Are you kidding? This is very much a pot/kettle situation. Both Microsoft and Sony are just as guilty of the charge, and you know it. Or maybe not. Maybe some people have selective memory. If someone said Alan Wake can only be done on PS3, wouldn't you take that as a jab at Sony? What do you think Sony is doing RIGHT NOW?

@All the Lair C**ks**king: That's right. The market agrees with you on how important graphics is. Even lousy, gimmicky, horrid control can be overcome with awesome graphics. </sarcasm>

[Jinxstar]

Just as an FYI lairs controls have been fixed so you can play with sticks instead of sixAxis now

[DaTruth]

I never said Lair is a good game! Maybe one person here said that. I'm sure given the millions of gamers, it was likely one or two people would like it. I said it is a technical masterpiece.

This is a debate about technical boundries and how the 360 cannot touch the PS3. Lair is included in that!

[darthv72]

not entirely true. The 360 has a better shot of emulating the ps3 cpu than the other way around. There have been many games developed with the ps3 as the lead and then ported to the 360 with ease. You can't say the same about games with 360 as lead and then ported to the ps3.

Not sure if it is the fact the 360 has 3 cpu cores each capable of 2 processes at once for an effective total of 6 processes simultaneous or if it is the combined memory structure that can switch on the fly between game data and graphical data.

Point is, both are real power houses in the hands of those that know how to use them. Right now that ball is in sony's court because MS doesnt have any dedicated 1st party engines strictly for the 360. Games for the 360 MS would like to also be available for windows so there in lies a restriction the ps3 does not have to take on.

The dedicated engines and 1st party devs for sony really only have one platform to concentrate their efforts on. Thus the quality in the finished product does not have to suffer. That and the bluray format really opens the ps3 up to not having to use compression for both audio and textures.

Pretty much any game could be made for any other platform within the design restrictions. Case in point. Street fighter 2 was released for the 8bit pc engine in JP and was nearly arcade perfect. The snes version obviously had more power behind it but the fact they could take a big game like that (at the time) and port it down to a lesser system and still come away with 90% quality is a testament to the programmers. Not the hardware.

[HighDefinition]

The last part of the GOW3 demo has nothing even remotely close to it on the 360. Visually that is the best looking part I`ve seen in a game this gen.

So, yeah, no need to be sour, this can ONLY BE DONE on the PS3. Which alot of people said would happen, so don`t be shocked.

The 360 doesn`t even have anything the looks as good as LAIR for christ sake.

BTW, I own a 360 it`s a good system, It just can`t do what the PS3 can do.

Period.

[BigPenguin]

I never really had any trouble with lair controls at all. People kept saying they had trouble with the accelerate and the 180, and yes, they were hard to do, until I realized that I had been doing it incorrectly. It would say to jerk up or down, and when I did it, it would only work about 1/3rd of the time. Then I realized that the way I was doing it was wrong, I had been raising(or dropping) my arms keeping my wrists locked(so if I had been carrying a plate of food, it would have been tossed all over me or slid off onto the floor).

The correct way to do it was to raise the control up while keeping it at the same tilt it had been at(as though you were picking up or lowering a tray of food, so that you changed its height from the ground, but you still kept it flat).

Once I started doing it correctly I never had a problem again, and the game was super fun. And I will still go so far as to say it is one of the most hectic games there is, just from the sheer amount of things on the screen at once. My one real complaint is when the hell are game developers going to stop using red to signify enemy's, 10% of the population are r/g color blind, and it makes things far harder then it needs to be.

[creatchee]

Graphics make a game great as much as sales do (in case you're unenlightened, that means not at all). GOWIII will be great because it is fun, well-designed, and epic. The graphics are the cherry on top of the sundae.

But if it didn't have such great graphics, it would still be a great game. Same as any game. Great games are great regardless of graphics, sales, the console that they are on, or what people on the internet say.

As to the only being possible on PS3? It probably *could* be done on the 360, but there would be some differences, such as it being on multiple discs (depending on the length of the game), probably some lighting differences/activity on screen lessening, and so on. However, it would still be a great game (and the same game for the most part, just not on the scale as it would be on its native console).

[AAACE5]

... No Sh*t! I hate when they state the obvious.

[dkgshiz]

Like Microsoft never smack talks Sony?! There the biggest show boaters of all time.

[SilentNegotiator]

The PS3 has a unique structure and they make it known that it allows for unique, well put together games and techniques.

What was that "We won"? Can't hear you over you not having bubbles.

[thesummerofgeorge]

If the quality of the games themselves aren't proof, then what is? If you have a different opinion, then what is it? Which game for the 360 or wii looks better than U2? KZ2?? MGS4??? The list goes on. You just sit there and deny just to deny. If you believe so strongly that the best looking games are on the 360, where's YOUR proof? Cause MS talks about having the best games, while Sony is making the best games. Obviously more is possible on a system using bluray than one using DVD, and that's only one aspect of what gives the PS3 an advantage. Bungie, I don't even know why i bother, you clearly don't care about facts, you'll never remove your lips from MS' proverbial @ss.

[pixelsword]

There is no proof, that is true, so no one can say that it isn't possible; but I say two things:

1. I believe that it is possible, if people really dig into the 360's processor instead of using default libraries and merely upgrading the graphics (Valve, I'm looking at you to stop that the most).

Here's the reason why people say the 360 isn't powerful:

2. Seeing that the 360 is supposed to be more powerful, easier to program for, and out earlier, the 360 should be leading instead of trailing in terms of innovation, graphical quality, and size and scope of the boards. Having better looking multiplatform games sometimes aren't really making a point since no multiplatform game that exists look as good at PS3 exclusives.

Therefore, the onus isn't on PS3 or 360 fans to prove that 360 games can do this or that: that's Microsoft's job.

Alan Wake and Splinter Cell: Conviction will show the 2010, no excuses power of the 360... and when that comes out, one way or the other it will end the debate as they're both exclusives and will be rigorously compared to other games and the results will end the debate for now (I think).

[Guido]

"Remember when it was said Killzone 2 couldn't be done on the 360? Yah and remember when that has been proven wrong? MS and Sony should learn to shut it sometimes."

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING on the 360 even compares to what is seen in Killzone 2. Show me a game where there are 350 light sources shown all at once at any given time in any 360 game. Here's a hint, there is none. The rendering in Killzone 2 is amazing and the graphics in that game trump everything to date on the 360. And Killzone 2 is nearly a year old already.

[bpac123456789]

I honestly don't even care whether it can be done on the 360 or not, because the fact is it won't be done on the 360. Also until the 360 can match games like uncharted 2 or killzone than i don't want to argue which system has the better graphics. it's boring there's no competition anymore maybe when halo reach, splinter cell, alan wake, and mass effect come out than we can continue these graphic debates, But until then lets just drop it.

[TheTwelve]

They don't need to "play it cool". They want to make money and so they have every right to speak the truth about their hardware and software. They can't afford to "play it cool", son.

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[Jamegohanssj5]

Lair had some pretty amazing graphics, but the glitches were horrid and the controls after the patch was still kind of a drag, but I got through it.

TGSI

[ico92]

i dont think sony have ever bad mouthed another company but gow is a 1st party exclusive so yeah its only possible on the ps3

[Karum]

If you think this is smack talk then you are an extremely sensitive person. I hope nobody ever tells you your hair looks bad in case you think it an act of such evil that person should be harmed for such a remark.

Ok now obviously the above is sarcasm but surely you can't think the quote from the girl at Sony comes into the smack talk bracket?

[The Happy Baby]

I'm playing it in my head as we speak.

[NewZealander]

yeah i agree, ive enjoyed many ps3 exclusives, but i dont like the way sony always tags them "only possible on ps3" sonys had some big games recently, but even so they need to market there game for what it is, not what it cant be played on.

[Saaking]

Until MS releases a game that looks even close to KZ2, Sony can say whatever they want. It's up to MS to prove them wrong.

[Immortal321]

some say the 360 can some say the 360 can't.

the ones who say the 360 can: is because of the dvd limitation?
Lost Odyssey say hi.
did blu-ray cover their eyes or something. you guys don't won't to look at the game itself. you guys just want to look somewhere else. My only question is, what are you guys talking about, that it can?

[8thnightvolley]

u cant argue with sony its their IP and its only possible on ps3... so technically they are right.. coz u aint gonna see gow3 on 360..

[Immortal321]

it's only possible on the wii, with their exclusive, with all that motion stuff.

[nogolis]

Yeah, just like Infamous could only be done on the Ps3. We see how shoddy it looks at times. Don't get me wrong, addicting and fun game with some neat elements, marred only by the true expansion of your character, but the game could've been done on the Ps2 in all honesty.

MAG, another game said only to be capable on the Ps3. Right. Looks like junk ass Monkey trash.

There are others too. I think GOW 3 is only on Ps3 because Sony owns it. I think that the game they wanted to make is only on Ps3. Not the game they could've made.

Don't get me wrong, love Sony. Love their games. Will buy GOW3 day 1, but it doesn't look that head and shoulders above the competition to me.

[ssipmraw]

weve only seen footage and have played gameplay of a build from a year ago, so expect big things

lol disagrees?

[garos82]

you little idiot. infamous on the ps2? dont make me laugh. that game looked gorgeous on a HD tv. do you know what a HDTV is?

and regarding MAG? it looks like a monkeys arse that is pushing boundaries like never before. 256 players. do you understand this little concept? 256 ONLINE players. look up Most online console plahyers at the same time and tell me what the second largest is doing? it doesnt seem like pushing boundaries to me. Having said that i probably wont be buying mag (at least not day 1, im not a big FPS fan) however im extremely happy with the lengths ps3 is going to push boundaries with killer titles coming out that truly are next gen.

on Topic

GOWIII is gonna kick ass. i cant wait to see more footage of this title. if it runs in 1080p Native and 60fps consistently with those awesome graphics N gai was talking about then i have no doubt that it will only be possible on ps3

[Ju]

What's wrong with MAG's visuals? It certainly looks better the CoD4/6 (and uses hi res textures than that all over the place). Nobody complains about CoD last gen visuals.

[gaffyh]

@nogolis - inFAMOUS, whilst it didn't look too great graphically, it still was better than a PS2 game. But, if you didn't already know, inFAMOUS was originally being made for PS2, and then they began to port it halfway through development for PS3.

So, although it is not graphically amazing, it still is one of the best games I've played this gen.

[Jamescagney]

There is no way infamous could have been done on a ps2. You come out with some crap, but that's a grade A turd right there.

[bjornbear]

YOU PICK INFAMOUS?

well visually no...BUT if you consider the amount of things that are happening ON SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME, maybe it is only possible on PS3.

how about...U2? only possible on PS3 don't you think? =P Pick a more solid example next time

Oh and @ everyone:

Yeah its $ony

and its Micro$oft

because both make money, good job =P

[edgeofblade]

Funny how Infamous was one of my top games of 2009. Not because of graphics, but because of the appealing flow and design of the game. I actually had fun playing it.

And it had jack sh*t to do with the "technical achievements". Honestly, I'm thinking people are losing touch with what a good game is.

[DaTruth]

Infamous made GTA4 and Prototype look like PS2 games!

There, I fixed your comment!

[mfwahwah]

@nogolis

Why don't you just cut to the chase and say "I hate video games on SONY consoles because they're on SONY consoles." I hate the 360 but I don't talk trash about the games (they're like the innocent children in this fanboy war, imo)

[nogolis]

You all are absurd. I said I loved Infamous and you all disagree in droves. Hell, another guy said the same thing I said and he got 10 agrees for it. He said the game didn't have good graphics, which it doesn't, and that the game was just fun. That's how I feel about it. Why the bias on this site? Hell, one person even said it was being made for PS2 and then ported over and you all agree, right after you tell me that it couldn't be done on Ps2. What's wrong with you all? Bias army of loyalist.

[ico92]

infamous isnt exactly the best looking ps3 game but to say it could be done on the ps2 is absurd, for an open world the ammount of enemies you will see on the screen with all the explosions and the framerate doesnt even take a hit, also the sewer missions look really good when cole lights his path, the shadows and lighting look really cool. I agree with garos play the game in HD and it looks really good, i mean its one of the few games i've played this gen where it looks MUCH better in HD

[nogolis]

Are you all really like this? I play on a 1080p 128hrtz 52in Sony Bravia. I play it in the best quality you can get almost. The game doesn't look "THAT" good. It's passable. It's about on par with Saints Row 2. The thing is, it's a 720P game, that doesn't boot in 1080P at all or even 1080I and the textures are low rez and to display them on such a big screen, like I am use to, is a huge problem. I think developers need to take this into consideration when they make their games. They have to compensate for bigger screens.

[nycredude]

nogolis

Dude seriously you might have a nice tv but I think you shouldn't have bought it off the truck cause clearly you got a defective one or a fake. Infamous looks way better than saints row and pretty much most open world games and to say it could be done on the Ps2 shows how retarded you are. Name me an open world game on the Ps2 that looks remotely as good as infamous. Remember it has been 10 years the Ps2 has been out so if it WAS possible (which is laughable) it would have been done.

All you haters have one thing in common which is you guys talk bullcrap with no proof or logic and expect everyone here to just believe you like what you say is true. Give me a break. More than a million people bought infamous and I am pretty sure we aren't all that dumb. Sure infamous isn't the prettiest game out there but for an open world game with as much stuff going on at the same tiem on screen it looks great. It certainly has less glitches and pop-in than Assassins Creed 2 and it has no screen tear.

[Saaking]

When MS says something is only possible on the 360, it's just silly since Sony clearly has MUCH better looking games than MS. Until MS proves otherwise, this statement is true.

[SaberEdge]

No, Saaking, that is only your opinion.

I have both consoles and a lot of games you fanatics claim can't be done on the 360 don't look that good to me. Infamous is a great game, but get real. If you actually have both consoles there is no way you can tell me that Infamous looks that good. I thought it looked average. There are lots of better looking games.

[Dev8 ing]

You can't compare an open world game's graphics to a game that isn't. It's apples to oranges. Compare infamous graphics to GTA, saints, prototype and when it's out crackdown 2. Of open world games it is the best one out right now.

[Jinxstar]

Please link somewhere sony said "infamous only possible on PS3". I dont think they did...

I know a few guys from SP said it( http://www.thegameraccess.c... ) and who is to say the dev's are liars? Are you a game programmer? It may be the physics and not the graphics or the scale or disc size or any other number of reasons...

[nogolis]

@nycredude

Dude, people here have already said that the game "WAS" in development for the Ps2. I didn't say that. They did. I didn't know it was being made for the Ps2, I simply said it looks like it could have been done on the Ps2. GTASA is proof of that. Graphically taking a hit, but at all otherwise, yes. It could have been done. Sorry. Go back and read what your fellow PS3 lovers are saying before you come at me with Alligations.

[Omega4]

Seams like this is all Sony can say these days to hype up their games. The same thing was said with U1/U2, MGS4,HR,K2 and probably more.

The thing is how would they know whether its not possible on other consoles when they haven't even tried?

[PirateThom]

Why would Sony developers waste their time developing on a console they'll never release a game on? That's silly.

"'Only on PS3' means 'only possible on PS3'" or else there would be a game graphically on par with Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 on 360, but there's not.

[Omega4]

Well if they can't back up their comments they shouldn't say them. At least if MS said it it would be more believable cause multiplaform games look better on the 360 than the PS3. So when a game is ACTUALLY made on BOTH platforms the 360 outperforms the PS3.

Oh and Halo: Reach says hello :)

[PirateThom]

And Uncharted 2 and Killzone blow every other game away, so keep lording up multiplatform games that still don't match PS3 exclusives, it just makes the point all the more valid.

Ha, Halo: Reach hasn't even been seen in-game yet.

[Bungie]

Agree with Omega4

what do you think $ony will say

our exclusive only for ps3 wow that's new

what's next MAG only possible on PSN

[PirateThom]

Well, why is the 360 locked to such low numbers?

Why was the PS3 able to do 40 players online at launch while the 360's MMOFPS was cancelled?

[green]

frontlines fuel of war is 54 players.

@ pirate thom: you are so wrong. L4D and Forza3 also use dedicated servers.

[notsonice]

Because the halo series is always about great visuals.

Try again...

[PirateThom]

Yep, if using the, shock, dedicated servers. It's only 16 players using the normal process, like every other 360 game

@green - then why is Forza 3 locked to 8 players? (Oh yeah, there's only 8 cars per track). Also, have they fixed that glitch yet where you can't use in car view online?

[Omega4]

"Well, why is the 360 locked to such low numbers?"
Maybe because the devs dont want to make a chaotic game with no depth? Its nothing to do with technical limitations, unlike Killzone 2 which couldnt handle split screen because the PS3 isnt powerful enough.

But i bet you forgot about that eh

[Mr_Bun]

Looks like PirateThom already has Omega and Bungie in check...nothing more to see here

[Jeromejones]

It doesnt matter if that Halo Reach trailer was ingame or not. It was nothing spectacular tbh and did not suprass some current ps3 exclusives or some upcoming ones

[PirateThom]

Hey, Omega, are you seriously questioning the most graphically advanced FPS on consoles?

Funny stuff.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

i thought by 2010 360 fanboys would quit bragging about multiplatforms and brag more about exclusives

edit:
@green

u say feature whores but all you do is brag about forza 3 features

[green]

Maybe because that is what the devs want to reduce chances of a race turning into Forza: destruction derby 3. Also how many racing games do you know with more players run at 60fps, have super-realistic physics, load and render customized paintjobs, tunes and builds for each player and look as good as Forza 3 does.

To be honest, what have you gained from running with more than 10 or so players in a racing game. I think some people are just feature whores. They just like to be able to say they can do something, when in reality, its not really something that is important.

8 players is just fine.

EDIT: Were on earth did you hear that you cant use in car view in mulitiplayer vecause of a glitch?Been using it since oct 24th with out a single issue.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Bungie is using his other accounts to give agrees & disagrees, how sad... :)

Damn PirateThom easy on the fanboys. ;)

[Motion]

That really is sarcasm right?

Or are you truly unaware of a little game coming out called GT5

[green]

yes i have heard of GT5 and will be buying it whenever it comes out but i have not heard anything about GT5 having a 240fps physics engine,custom paintjobs and individual tunes and builds for each car.Please enlighten me of these specs if i am wrong.

[Cyrax_87]

I'm sure he's talking from a technical POV. All you did was list features.

[terrorofdeath]

you are going to have to eat your words when GT5 comes out.

[Pennywise]

Seems like you are busting at the seams. Show me one game one the 360 that compares to the graphics of kz2, uc2, heh... UC1.

[Ju]

green omega bungie. Are you one ? Like "resistance is futile" kind of personality ? Is that just pure denial or are you really interested in a conversation ? Because those arguments you bring up should be spoken in a comedy club, not in a discussion. That's like you guys try to actually diss numbers (or bend facts). I can only think its an attempt to be funny, everything else would just be sad.

[mrv321]

'Seams like this is all Sony can say these days to hype up their games. The same thing was said with U1/U2, MGS4,HR,K2 and probably more.'

And guess what Sony have yet been proven wrong.

Name me a better looking game than Heavy Rain that runs on 360? Go on?

Didn't Turn10 say Forza was the most definitive racing game this generation? Last I checked GT5 is being released this generation

Gears 2 was on the same level as Uncharted 1 graphics wise... and art style Uncharted 1 BLEW IT AWAY(in my opinion). And I highly Halo Reach will look as good as Killzone 2, I've seen the Halo: Reach in-game trailer and I can honestly say thus far Killzone 2 killzowned it.

Do you see what I'm getting at? Sony are saying this because they have yet to be proven wrong.

EDIT: Regarding the Multiplatform games look better. Erm MW2 doesn't. Infact 99% games of 2009 looked the same on both platforms. And regardless they are blown away by Uncharted 1, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GT5 and Heavy Rain. Untill you show me a game which looks better than Killzone 2 in-game and not some CGI/Post effects I will continue to say so. It's like physics where physics is not about saying what's right but about saying ANYTHING untill someone proves it's wrong then you say something new.

[bjornbear]

its because it can only be done on PS3.

what are you all whining about, I thought none of you cared about GOWIII anyway =P

[wicko]

Omega64, you really think multiplatform games look better on the 360 because the 360 is more capable? It has everything to do with budget and time contraints. New hardware (ps3) takes more time and money to develop for since it requires new methods. Companies aren't willing to do that, so 360 multiplatform games end up looking better.

[Oner]

@ Bungie "KZ2 don't even have any kind of Co op,4 players split screen..."

If Killzone 2 ran at sub hd resolutions like most Xbox 360 games than it would have been able to do that easily.

[Perkel]

@ Bungie

"don't want to hurt some feelings but KZ2 is not more advanced than
Halo 3 "

dude just stop.. you are emberasing yourself. Even Reistance 1 look better than halo 3 and it have 2 players campain and 4 player split multi and 32 players online...

kz2 is on astonishing lvl with deffered rendering

[bacon13]

Gamers like Bungie make me hate my 360 more and more everyday. If you have both systems, its obvious that the PS3 has better graphics. If only I could use my 360 controller for PS3 gaming, I would have no complaints.

[MetalGearRising]

Sure it can't be done Sony and this is coming from Sony not the Game Developer poor Sony trying desperately to make some hype for this underwhelming game which even Dante's Inferno over shadows GOW3 in graphics and game play. And let's not forget Bayonetta in game play.

[ssipmraw]

well atleast sony has an exclusive hack and slash game unlike microsoft
remember when they tried to gain excluisve rights to ninja gaiden II?
FAIL
as for dantes inferno, dont make us laugh you look bad enough as it is already, the animated cutscenes look like something out of zelda for the phillips cdi. as for bayonetta, well theres nothing to really hate about it except the lame story

[ps12&3lover]

lmao did you say it overshadows gow3 in graphics and game play..wow you fangirls are starting the new year off strong..

you either just want to try and piss off ps3 gamers or you in serious denial cause you dont even believe that..gow3 makes dante look like gameboy

[Bungie]

what do you want $ony to say

our console is last place please buy it

PSN is not that good but it's free

we got alot of game but they're all inferior on our console

[PlayStation X]

delusional

360 has no games lol

[OmarJA-N4G]

360 has no games. :)

[SaberEdge]

360 has a ton of games. You fanboys are so funny.

[Narutone66]

MS got tons of game but you 360 fanboys don't buy those games. That 's why more than 95% of your games are considered flop by your standard.

[gamer7804]

Well that is shocking, Sony or a company owned by Sony saying a game can only be made on their system. One must be careful when believing definitive statements like that which exclude all other possibilities.

[young juice]

prove them wrong

[mfwahwah]

Yeah but this is GOD OF ****ING WAR 3.

GOD OF WAR.

From Santa Monica (remember what they did for the PS2 with God of War 2?).

This isn't some indy dev who got paid to praise SONY. This is a top shelf developer making a top shelf video game.

[DoctorXpro]

Another "only possible on PS3"

Yeah....... bla blabla bla bla bla

[BinkyStalls]

good cause i dont own a xbox 360 anymore

[DelbertGrady]

Not PC either, huh?

[ssipmraw]

some high end pcs have enough trouble trying to emulate ps2 games, expect emulation of the cell probably near impossible

[t850]

whos talking emultions here.

any game made for the ps3, if it was made for pc will run. There isnt a title the ps3 can run the pc cant. Its just a question of the game being developed for the platform is being developed as an exclusive.

If any of the ps3 exclusives were to make their way to a pc. Even a 3yr old pc equipped with a 8800gtx would run it better then a ps3 ever could.

[ssipmraw]

it has all to do with emulation seeing as your never ever ever going to see the game land on pc without the use oof emulation of the ps3

[DelbertGrady]

Lol.

"God of War 3 only possible on PS3 since it's developed in-house exclusively for the PS3 and the IP is owned by Sony".

Duh...

What t850 meant (amazing you didn't get this) is that a modern gaming PC would be more than capable of running ANY console game if it was developed for the PC platform. It's pretty logical considering all code is written and tested on PC's before they run it on dev kits.

[Ju]

I doubt UC2, KZ2 or GoW3 has been developed on the PC (as in runs on the PC for development purpose - obviously you use (cross)compilers/debuggers hosted on the PC).

These games run very specific and time critical code on the SPU which would require a simulation on the PC. Currently there is no such simulation which can simulate the SPU in realtime on the PC.

ND used assembler code to optimize SPU through put. Again, the only way you can develop and test that is on the target (development PS3). There is no way that code will ever run on the PC.

I could imagine, if you could use a fixed set of PC components you could optimize for say a quad core, switch all unecessary system services off, and optimize all shaders for the specific graphics chip this PC is configured with. Such a setup would blow every console (and standard PC) out of the water. But the fact is, it ain't because such a "unified" PC configuration does not exist (because it gets replaced every 1 month at least).

[Obama]

Only bringing pc into the equation when it's convenient?

[DelbertGrady]

You mean like when you rabidly shout "I can get it on teh PC!!!" when someone utters "360 exclusive"? ;)

Nope. I just thought the statement was silly as new PC's have the power to handle anything produced on current gen consoles.

[mfwahwah]

PCs don't use Cell. Games barely ever even use quad core processors. This game is made to work with a Cell processor. God of War 3 could run on PC...

Except it wouldn't be the same as God of War 3 on PS3 (it might look better or worse, but that's not my point in any sense).

[Ju]

Multicore cpus in PCs are inefficient for gaming. Reasons are that you cannot application manage the cores (e.g. lock/assign them for proper tasks - they are always scheduled dynamically) and secondly the caches cannot be locked either (360 cpu has special opcodes to lock cache lines, but not the whole cache neither can those CPUs statically partition caches). Thus, cache flush can happen at any time and decrease efficiency.

[MajestieBeast]

The gameplay of e3 and demo speak for themselves isnt the embargo on gow3 ending this month?

[sweettooth]

goty 2010

[Hakimy]

I'm a ps3 owner but I don't like these statements.They only cause wars to fanboys and it's a bad way to hype a game.Just show us footages of the game and we will judge it.and we don't need this kind of hype anyway.most of us will buy GOW3 ;)

[mfwahwah]

Fanboys start the wars. They interpret statements and then chime in with their own.

[Captain Hotpot]

How CAN the game be done on any other System when Sony Owns the IP?
And if Crysis 2 can run on 360, then I think God of War can. :P
OH and PirateThom, I ain't a Huge fan of Halo but the latest Reach trailer uses the Ingame engine and is looking Great so be quiet Fanboy.

[MajestieBeast]

Lol we havent even seen crysis 2 on ps3 or 360 so before you make yourself look like an ass think. Whats with every 360 fan pulling the sales card i mean seriously is that the only thing you guys have left sales,natal and xboxlive?

[Captain Hotpot]

Well if you checked, details and Screenshots were released earlier this week AND when the game was announced they showed a demo of the engine on both PS3 and 360...

[PirateThom]

In-engine doesn't equal in-game.

Nothing fanboyish about facts.

[Motion]

You may have seen "in game", but it probably wasn't gameplay.
I don't' know if you played halo2 back when it was out, but its cut scenes looked great, with advanced lighting, bumpmapping etc...
Then as soon as you got to the gameplay- BANG. It all went away, and was graphically underwhelming. Halo2 was a huge disappointment graphic wise for me, 3 was a bit of a disappointment, and I don't think reach will be much different. You can't judge gameplay graphics off of in-game cut scenes.

[kenpachi]

still comparing multiplats to ps3 exclusives suppose when you buy a flop box what else can you do

[villevalorox]

why does sony say that? Because it is more and likely true, what game has been developed for the 360 that even looks like killzone 2, uncharted 2, or the god of war 3 demo? none.. why? because sony will not allow their games on it? hahah well when you can give me a side by side comparison of every aspect of a game that is on the 360 and a ps3 exclusive or game that sony has said not possible on any other console. and the 360 looks like it outweighs the ps3 game, then I'll believe you. But for not I think it is only possibly on the ps3 for the simple face that I have never seen a game on 360 that looks as good as it. That is what the splinter cell team said about conviction "Not possible on ps3" really? well I sure look at the gameplay and think.. hmm uncharted looks way way way better, i mean a lot is going on in uncharted2... why could the ps3 not run it? that is the side by side im looking for to believe that the dev is crazy. can killzone 2 be done on 360? idk, I guess ill have to wait and see alan wake for that one... but as of now? no.. probably not, uncharted 2? hell no... god of war 3 fuK no. . .

[kneon]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I particularly like the lighting comparison as that, along with the remarkably good physics really adds to the immersive quality of the game. Trying to look through the ISA electronic sight into the light with all the dust blowing on Pyrrhus Rise can be more than a little challenging at times :)

It will be interesting to see a similar comparison with Reach and Killzone 3 once they are out.

[GVON]

i suppose if they are using every Spu then technically it is impossible as other systems dont have a similar processor count,and if like the demo the final game has no loads and is 25gb + then technically they are right.

Not fussed,just want the game,and my embargo has just begun on Gow3,see you in march

[thief]

MS claimed the PS3 was inferior to 360 - and Sony came out with UC2, which destroy every 360 exclusive
MS claimed the KZ2 trailer was a lie - and GG came out with a game that trumped the trailer
Turn 10 tried to pretend Forza deserves to be in the same class as GT - and then GT5 turns up with 1000 cars, night / all weatgher racing, 15p online, 1080p, nascar, head tracing, interior models, etc etc

So if MS and xbox supporters disagree with Sony's statements on goW3 - they have prove it by producing an exclusive on 360 that looks nearly as good as GoW3, right now 360 is a joke with ODST and L4D2 looking like garbage compared to Sony's big hitters in 2009

[SaberEdge]

Uncharted 2 does not "destroy every 360 exclusive". That is just fanboy nonsense. At best, Uncharted 2 looks slightly better than Gears of War 2.

[AliTheBrit19]

Such bullsh*t haha

Seriously use your head, its also possible on PC, obviously since it was created on a damn PC, and an Xbox 360 is nothing but a PC with a unique OS, and a pretty powerful one at that (just has crap quality hardware)

God of War III is easily possible on the Xbox 360, if you really buy this "only possible on" crap you're a complete tool xD key word here kids, "claimed"

[ssipmraw]

whats great is that youll never know whether it can. only in theory or equivalency

[AliTheBrit19]

Sure, I'll accept you can never KNOW unless it was tried

But, ;) I do know lmao its what I do, its my field at college.

[gtamike]

so why don't 360 games look better or the of level graphics as ps3 games? 360 graphics maxed out on old gears of war unreal engine.

Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, MGS4, God Of War, Heavy Rain, GT5 I could go on with games that 360 can't handle.

we all know developers don't really push much pc games in graphics. Why spend millions on maxing out a pc game if the customers don't have powerful\costly hardware needed.

[InFAMOUS1]

GZUS you're delusional!!!!

God of War III is easily possible on the Xbox 360, if you really buy this "only possible on" crap you're a complete tool xD key word here kids, "claimed"

Ya it can play on the xbox 360, but with only 10 enemies on the screen at once, 480i res, 4 DVDs, compressed EVERYTHING and 30FPS...

I know you claim that you are not a bot or a fanboy and that the only reason why you post the opinions/statements that you do is because you wanna get a rise out of the droids/bots. If that truly is the case then you sir are a bigger loser then then the likes of metalgearrising, Thetruth, sakking, sirken, etc..

GOW3 is only possible on the PS3 for several reasons. 1) Its a Sony IP. 2) as the game stands NOW, in terms of size graphics, sound, res is cuz of blu ray. 3) As proven with games like KZ2, UC1 and 2, MGS4 the CELL is a beast for core power, its why it was developed and its why it was used.

The 360 will be out for 5 years this year and it has yet to give a game that comes in at a native 1080p 60fps. I own a 360, but has seriously NOT been turned on in 2 years...

The PS3 is the TRUE "NEXT GEN" console. Its funny because the xbox720 or whatever they call it will more then likely use A LOT of the hardware specs the PS3 has used this gen.. MS will ALWAYS play behind in hardware and respect!

[NiiGhTx]

LOLOL "Possible on Xbox 360?"

A freaking cutscene on MGS4 is bigger than all your "exclusives"

Which I must say, are inferior. While on the PC,they're superior.

LOL. Paying $60 for a sloppy version

[AliTheBrit19]

Jesus you people are stupid..

[BYE]

Most PC users have processors that are less capable than the Cell.

You can't program a game for PC that utilizes the power of CPUs that almost nobody has.

[Mr Logic]

Yes, insulting people is definitely a sign of intelligence.
/s

[Obama]

yeah GOW3 is possible on the 360 with 4 discs 30 gb lost gimped graphic and sound quality.

Also funny how you bots mention the pc..so you finally admit pc is a platform then?

[InFAMOUS1]

Name calling is ALWAYS the best way to get your point across.

With regards to your other comment regarding KNOWING cuz its what you're doing in college then you should pick a ACTUAL school, not an online only fake diploma, because with your level of 'knowledge' it would appear you know nothing about video game development!

This site is where console wars are fought, not started. If you are either A) offended by people pwning you then its prob best to go to the 'gamer zone' B) OR pick a true side and stay with it if you're in the 'open zone'. And PLEASE make a valid point for once, you're just as bad as TheTruth2009

EDIT: It was built on a PC using SOFTWARE and TOOLS that are DESIGNED to work on the PS3.. its called a DEV KIT! And in the case of most current gen games their art, animation, sounds, modeling is typically done on a Mac, where the programming is done on PC..

[gtamike]

360 would RROD from just looking at Kratos face graphics.

[MetalGearRising]

I'm quite sure if the developer of GOW3 had a say he would have said otherwise but then again this is just Sony letting out some wind.

[GVON]

true,but i'm guessing the mood around Sce is upbeat,Ww ps3 is selling well,they had a brilliant 09 line-up,2010 starts with one or two ps3 exclusive games a month,and for the first time in ps3 life (i think) consumers are unsure what they got in the second half of 2010.
Rumours are
Agent R*
last guardian
the soe mmo's
ff14 in the west
and i'm sure E3 will be packed with first party for christmas and early 2011,so whilst I dont care for system wars I can see why they are letting out wind

[kewlkat007]

Of course, we will never find out like most Exclusive, oh well just PR talk. Moving on.

Would be nice if a good looking game came out on one console, then on the other as a surprise, after that game being praised best graphics eva.
Just to see what really could be done.

[Doc Sony]

Try putting GOW 3 Blu Ray disc in the 360 and see what happens.

The shear mass of the content on the GOW 3 Blu Ray disk is enough to create a black hole inside the 360 and eat it up from inside, just like in Star Trek with the Vulcan planet.

At least the PS3 can contain it, but only barely.

[NateNater]

"The shear mass of the content on the GOW 3 Blu Ray disk is enough to create a black hole inside the 360 and eat it up from inside, just like in Star Trek with the Vulcan planet."

Quote of the day!
+ Bubbles for that :)

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

Microsoft need to fire their PR for being too much loudmouth.
Sony need to fire their PR for not being loudmouth enough.
Who cares if it's only possible on PS3?
Just say something like "Xbox 360 has no game that can match with God of War", "Xbox 360 has no game like Uncharted", "PS3 is the console of choice for players that like variety", "God of War is a genre defining game, no one has ever reached its excellence, and the only game that could is another PS3 exclusive".

Just troll, Sony. Forget your japanese humility, like would say Wayne Static, just Start a War.

[Rowsdower]

"only possible on PS3" is not the equivalent of the "only on xbox" that one might find on game boxes. "only on xbox" speaks to exclusivity, while "only possible on PS3" speaks some idea that only the raw power of the consoles hardware could achieve such a game and no other available gaming platform could produce such a game. One highlights game exclusivity and the other is the equivalent of a guy bragging about his big d*ck to unconvinced girls at the bar.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions has to how that works out.

God of War III will be awesome no doubt, its on my Gamefly list, and I hope to finish up God of War Collection this weekend. So my comment speaks not to the quality of the game or the system, but to the tired and weak marketing tool that Sony insists on attaching to its product. The PS3 is the real deal no doubt, but it deserves better than "only possible on the PS3" because obviously other platforms could run those games (mostly talking PC) so its not due to technical limitations and everything to do with a Sony exclusive game that was created and optimized for the PS3. This is why MS marketing does so well, not because its good but because Sonys marketing is so bad.

"only possible on PS3" ---
perhaps it sounds better in japanese

ただ PS3 での可能性

[kraze07]

Arrogant much?

[silvacrest]

but read anything said by greenburg if it comes close to this i will be surprised

[labwarrior]

Of course, they have zero other games to hype, so it is not like they had any other option

[silvacrest]

that was such obvious Bull i dont even feel the need to give a proper response

a bit off topic but

i nor did anyone else see actual gameplay of halo reach yet some feel that it looks better then killzone 2?? really??

[divideby0]

Sony dont need to say stuff like this.
Until I see a game on my 360 look like UC2 or as I guess GOW...there is no need to state the OBVIOUS.

PS3, unquestionable has the best looking game out for this generation of consoles. PERIOD

[divideby0]

if you are gonna disagree....please comment on what 360 game looks better.....please do, cause I will buy it....LMAO..wont hear from it again

[MajestieBeast]

If the 360 was capable of the graphics of say uncharted 2 we would have seen it with gears of war 2 but it barely looked any better then 1 pretty bad when a developer cant make the second game look better with their own engine. Its just a combination of 3 factors talent,engine and hardware and sony seems to have all 3 while 360 misses 1 or 2.

@Kewlkat if it could be done on ps3/360 why doesnt Bayonetta look as good as a e3 2009 demo?

[kewlkat007]

Now Bayonetta statement, not sure what your talking about. I just played the DEMO last week on the 360 and got the game yesterday.

[divideby0]

exactly....if a 360 game looked better I would own it...no such thang so and its even not up for debate...

[FwanK]

I even doubt the 360 can handle God of War II

[terrorofdeath]

"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs."

Nuff said.

[proudly_X]

For the second time in two weeks i have been restricted at the gamer section.. Because of my username.......... Proudly_African..
All these RACIST mods, you will DIE and rot in HELL..
you can keep restricting your lives, u have no life either..
i remain A PROUDLY AFRICAN.
we are ruling the world now.... coughs.. Obama coughs..
very soon i ll get my nomination, win and rule over all these RACISTS..
what a waste of time and bandwidth
You can disagree, delete, spam, i don't care, bcos i am not refreshing this page...
HATERS AND RACIST YOU WILL FIND YOUR REWARD IN THA DEEPEST PIT

[azazin]

Very nicely said! F**K the racist bastards!

[AssassinHD]

I don't buy it. If the mods truly restricted you to the open zone for your username, then there would not be a countdown to being unrestricted. Your username would still be the same in 23 hours and 50 minutes. Your restriction would be a permanent one if your username were really the basis. It is likely that you simply wrote something that should not have been written in the heavily moderated gamer zone.

[trancefreak]

You got banned to the open zone because of your screen name? WoW just WoW. Everyone should be proud of their native culture its not racism.

Btw GoW III is going to rock its going to be one hell of an adventure. I hate waiting for big titles its like xmas for me.

[chidori666]

stop your cry man.. this of racism here in this site not exist.

[Obama]

well I haven't been banned because of my username. Probably because I am the most powerful man on earth???

[AssassinHD]

I took a stroll through your comment history, and judging by the responses to your deleted comments, you seem to do a fair amount of trolling. Doing that in the Gamer Zone gets you restricted. It has nothing to do with your username.

You seem very eager to blame your troubles on racism. Racism may still exist in certain circles, but it is no longer prominent in society as a whole. If you take responsibility for your actions you may come to find that the world is in fact not out to get you.

[bunfighterii]

Why do you guys arguing about PCs even care? Every game looks better on a high end PC and everyone already knows it- the hardware is constantly developing. A console has the same hardware for 10 years, its not even worth arguing over.

Console and PC gaming are in entirely different leagues- the point of comparison should be other consoles.

[Marty8370]

Quote:

Sony Santa Monica explained that the SPUs aren’t actually coprocessors but are full general purpose processors that can handle code directly lifted from the PPU. Moreover, they aren’t just fast, but they are super fast and with a little bit of help they can run code at unbelievable speeds.

In fact, the God of War III team rely on the SPUs to accelerate both the PlayStation 3’s GPU (RSX) and the PPU. They then detailed the systems running on the SPUs, which include animation, cloth, collision, procedural textures, culling, shadows, push buffer generation, meta tasks, geometry conditioning, and sound. Indeed, most (if not all) of the heavy lifting is left to the SPUs.
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The Crapbox has nothing to compete with the 7 SPU's the PS3 has. Thats the reason things are starting to look better on PS3. Devs have said they have barely touched the power of the Cells SPU's.

And to think Microsoft called the PS3's SPU's mere DSP's. It's clear now they are clearly much more.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

[labwarrior]

Or the lighting, scale of Alan Wake

Or the character models, textures, lighting in Mass Effect 1-2

Or the vast wars and stunning visuals in KUF2

Simply put, PS3 is only for tiny spaces and movie games like MGS4, GOW3, Uncharted and the other tiny experiences

Enjoy tiny, well if you enjoy tiny linear and simplistic mindless gameplay, PS3 is for you i guess

[tordavis]

"Simply put, PS3 is only for tiny spaces and movie games like MGS4, GOW3, Uncharted and the other tiny experiences "

Wow...just wow! You obviously haven't played PS3 have you?

[NiiGhTx]

LOL.

Even Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, a 2007 game, demolishes any 360 game. Graphically

[silvacrest]

seriously, do you work for microsoft or something
anyone with working eyes can tell the difference

[tordavis]

Shadow Complex...Only possible on the 360.
Muramasa The Demon Blade...Only possible on the Wii.

[Blitzkid]

Even if the game is not only possible on the PS3, XBOX games have not even reached the quality of Killzone2 or UC2! For now.
So if God of War III will look better as both mentioned games, we all will know that the game is only possible on the PS3! Or is there anybody who thinks that Microsoft doesn't try to reach the quality of PS3 exclusives?

[ReBurn]

Please. Modern Warfare 2 easily looks as good in motion as Killzone 2, if not better. I've seen both first hand and that's my opinion at least. And Modern Warfare is multi-plat. I will say that I haven't seen anything as graphically impressive on 360 as Uncharted 2 is on PS3. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it is impossible. It only means at most that it just hasn't happened yet. I will say that from what I've seen Bioware is going to give Uncharted 2 a run for its money with Mass Effect 2.

[Blitzkid]

@ReBurn

MF2 looks as good as Killzone 2? Your kidding!
Same with ME2. Mass Effect looks really good but not in the way Uncharted or Killzone does. Mass Effect has really good post processing effects. Try to disable the grain effect on the PC Version of ME and take a look at the graphics again.
ME2 will have similar graphics with a few more details. But even these details will not last to compare with UC2!

[Obama]

"Modern Warfare 2 easily looks as good in motion as Killzone 2"

No it doesn't. Unless you are blind or a 360 loyalist it doesn't.

[ReBurn]

And once again, Modern Warfare 2 is multi-platform. Killzone 2 is a great-looking game. But it isn't genre-defining. I think the "blind fanboy" angle is defending that game to the end as people seem to be doing.

[silvacrest]

i have played both and MW2 does not even look better then MGS4 whether its still or in motion, if you honestly think that MW2 looks better in ANY WAY.....okay, just remember that its not true

[RadioactiveTouch]

Let's be honest here, God of War has never really pushed the envelope of any system regardless of what the developers say. God of War 2, for instance, was quite impressive but could easily have been done on the Xbox at the time. With God of War 3, I would be hard-pressed to believe there is anything in the game that is so revolutionary that it cannot be done with a triple-core PowerPC processor and a pretty damned great 3D video processor.

I like my PS3 and I even like the new PS3 ads on TV but this is just ridiculous.

[Karooo]

dvd drive, rrod and other bullshit, gay system. PS3 has all good looking games which win awards.

[bjornbear]

=3

[ReBurn]

Let the marketing buzz begin. I don't see why anyone would be upset for Sony saying something like this. That's what they do to build hype for the game. I'm sure Microsoft will be issuing PR saying similar things for Halo Reach or any other 360 console exclusive.

It isn't lying to say that God of War III could only be done on PlayStation since Sony owns the license. But based on the E3 demo what was done to that point certainly would have been technically possible on 360.

[Ashriel]

Will they ever get tired of repeating the same over and over again??

We've reading the same when every single PS3 exclusive is released, we get it, your exclusives are only possible on your console, just shut up and release the game.

[Xi]

And I bet that halo 3 could only be done on the 360, whether or not it's the most graphically advanced game out there.

this article is a null point, a game that's optimized for one console over the other is never going to be possible to be done on the other system, period.

Also, bayonetta looks more visually impressive... go ahead and flame me.

[rezenu]

I wouldn't expect Sony to say it can be done on a 360?

[hoops]

@kws1065

You do know that NAO32 is almost a crippled version of FP16? It's a work around for consoles that cannot supprt FP32 or Run FP16 smoothly.
It uses half the space and bandwidth of common HDR rendering solutions in general and the fidelity results despite THEIR claims is not the same a full FP16. If they are telling you this and you beleive it...LOL...
Saying this, the Xbox360 in general has issues running Full FP16 and AA together even though that feature is supported in hardware.

And you know why they use this? Why they are using this work around? And its genious IMO. Because the RSX cannot run HDR+AA at the same time. Its not enabled in the RSX hardware so they do this work around. But NAO32 is not FP16 fidelity. By using this technique it allowed for multisampling to be used in conjuction with HDR on a PS3 whose GPU didn't support multi-sampling of floating-point surfaces.

[Cueil]

Look everone a inhouse developed game owned by a first party company can't be done on any other system... not even the vastly more powerful PC that has video cards that pump out twice the flops as the PS3.

[DigitalAnalog]

Ok, is she part of Santa Monica Studios???????

-End statement

[remanutd55]

In The End There Will Be Only Chaos , im dying to see the new videos i have heard some pretty amazing stuff from other people , only 2 weeks away , Zeus your time is almost up

[Enigma_2099]

.... that's the only way I'd believe this.

[Optical_Matrix]

Why is it so much of a problem for Sony to say this? It's probably true. Can't wait for the embargo to life on Jan 18th.
I mean if you look at 360 games, none of them even look as good as Uncharted: Drakes Fortune (2007): http://files.playstatic.com...
Now if the 360 is supposedly easier to program for, been out for over a year longer than the PS3 and apparently has a better GPU, then what the hell is going on? Where are the 360 games that look that good? Answer? There are none. The proof is in the pudding. Until I see 360 games looking like this (which 5 years in now, doesn't seem like it's gonna happen), then this comment holds plenty of fidelity.
Killzone 2: http://kingslayer.files.wor...
Uncharted 2: http://www.gamesonsmash.com...
Metal Gear Solid 4: http://www.ps3informer.com/...

[Enigma_2099]

... the opposing company will ALWAYS take it as a sign of arrogance. Unfortunately, even if unintended, that's the way it is. Doesn't matter who says it.

[lrn2hate]

Sony can say whatever they want until Microsoft and Nintendo make a game that proves Sony and all of us wrong. As of now I believe it.

[TengkuAmir10]

i hate it when 360 owners think Bayonetta and Dante's Inferno is their EXCLUSIVE. Wake up guys, 360's days are numbered. Bungie is such a momma's boy.

[El Nino]

One again n4g folks are reading the headline without reading the article.

He's only pointing out the obvious, why cant sony "big up" a game without getting bashed, especially a game that has a reputation because of the universal acclaim GOW1 & 2 got

if it was a new I.P, i understand the skeptics but the god of war franchise is a great success, not so much in sales, but technically it pushed the ps2 (especially gow2)

He;s only stating that because the way the spu's and the cell are structured that yes it is only possible on the ps3.

Its exactly true, if another rival console had the same structure as the ps3, then the argument "but it can be done on other consoles" would be valid, but its not.

[El Nino]

Also this graphics argument between the ps3 and 360 really annoys me

Until somebody can post a video of a game that is currently released worldwide, multiplatform or exclusive that looks better than Uncharted 2 please do, because everytime people ask that question, i have never seen a video in-game that looks better, until then stop the argument
I dont hate the 360 because it doesnt have a game that looks as good as UC2, i hate the fanboys that are deluded and blind.

Everyone accepts that crysis looks better than any ps3 game, why can we accept that,(i do, my eyes are telling me it looks better, so i accept it does) but not the uc2 looks better than any 360 game argument.

[Dorwrath]

I played Uncharted 2, good game, pretty, but what pisses me off is that people thing the better the graphics, the better the game.

Let me me tell you deluded and blind isn't just a 360 fanboy trait. PS3 fanboys are just as deluded and blind.

[scruffie1]

I agree with Dorwrath 110%

N4G is just littered with constant comparisons, frame rate analysis and pixel count cr@p which is getting tiresome.

The only thing i will say is that the majority of this is coming from the Sony camp. I consider a PC as a gaming platform (as this site is called News For Gamers not News for Console Owners). You don't hear all the owners of high-end PCs constantly making digs at consoles for only being able to play certain games in 720p or less. Both 360 and PS3 are more affordable options to get into HD gaming - both do there job extremely well. Just don't embarrass yourself talking about pixel counts when there are people on here that can play games way above 1080p.

[Dorwrath]

Could care less about this title anyway.

Not buying it for my PS3, will save my money for something I like to play.

[chidori666]

lol.. i love the xbots and your argument of :

"dantes inferno is better than god of war 3"

HILARIUS!

[SSCOOLCHEA]

dvd
multiple disk
wifi adapter
alkaline batteries

GOD OF WAR 3 IS POSSIBLE ON THE XBOT

with 2 enemies onscreen and a boat . in the end all you fight is zeus arms with one blade . You would have to compressed everything video /audio . The sound will come out shltty. just a disaster

[Jerk120]

Our Bayonetta is better than yours.

And Bayonetta is better than God of War.

[Meryl]

If xbox games are so superior then how come no xbox game has won a GOTY for two years, xbox fans can spin all they want, but even the media agrees that the PS3 is the superior machine, and any that say otherwise are often paid by M$ to purposely lie and mislead people into thinking the xbox360 is the best thing on this planet

[Somnipotent]

possible or not, i would play this game on any other system but a playstation. just like i wouldn't play halo on any other system but an xbox or mario on anything but a nintendo system. i have not played sonic since dreamcast and as far as i know, i'm not missing out on anything.

[sikbeta]

GOW3 will be Pure Awesomeness, enjoy Gaming instead of spread HATE on the interwebz

[chazjamie]

u know these developers should be more specific when the refer to other gaming systems. i honestly think they referring to the wii, because they havent even attempted to develop the game for the 360. before every single ps3 exclusive is released, i have to sift through this garbage about lighting and the power of the cell. i own almost every exclusive, yet everyone feels and plays like a ps2 game. except for lbp, that is the best game in the world.

nothing even uncharted doesnt match its graphics.

[gameraxis]

some people are saying that they didn't think the GOW3 demo was good looking? I think we all admit there is a certain standard we can go by when it comes to visuals and that stated, it can't nearly be dismissed as opinion that a game looks amazing. I think most of these people stopped at the 2008 vga trailer and didn't play the demo... because there's no denying that the game looks magnificent, and if not in your eyes, what games do you play?

[Obama]

GOW3 alone pretty much dominates everything.

[hazardman]

No argument from me..

[JonnyBigBoss]

It CAN only be done on the PS3, at least for now.

[devilhunterx]

Sony was right. Next gen started when PS3 was launched.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Now thats funny...

[devilhunterx]

^

Here are 3 "never done before on a console" technology:

Bluray = new gen

Cell = new gen

3D support = new gen

[OC_MurphysLaw]

And apparently only Cross Game Chat can be done on the 360. Go figure...

[devilhunterx]

I remember someone saying that HDMI wasn't needed for consoles.

For the life of me, I can't seem to remember the name...

[keysy420]

but to what extent

[dkgshiz]

Like Alithebrit. Dude, you have no clue whats possible on the 360.

[Bumpmapping]

I'll love reading all the bots post "Sony allways says that there is no proof" just like UC1,MGS4,KZ2,UC2 Sony shut all you up,i think you should be more worried than skeptical.Also GOW3 runs at 60fps 1080p native resultion,that should be enough facts for you :)

[strickers]

What he said.

[jalen247]

I believe it because I haven't seen any game on the 360 look as good as GOW III demo and word is that the current graphics look a lot better than the demo.

[SaberEdge]

The God of War 3 Demo was not that impressive. Do you only play the PS3 and have no idea what graphics the 360 is capable of? Or are you partially blind?

[jalen247]

If you think the GOW III demo was not impressive then you obviously don't know graphics. Why don't you name another game in the hack & Slash genre that looks better than the GOW III demo...I'm waitin...Good luck with that...LOL. If you are the best looking game in your respective genre, wouldn't you say that that is impressive?

If you know of a game on the 360 that looks better than the GOW III demo please name it because I can't think of any.

No I am not partially blind or just play a PS3. I have played many 360 games at my brother in-law house. He has both a 360 and a PS3 so its pretty easy to compare. I have played all the top graphical games like Gears 1, Gears 2, etc. My other brother in law also has a 360 and one of my best friends has a 360 so I am very aware what the 360 has to offer.

I own about 100 PS3 games so I have also played all the multiplatform games that have good graphics like MW 2, AC 2, Batman AA, etc.

To be honest, multiplatform games look better than 360 exclusives so I don't even need to own a 360 to know its graphical limits. All I need to do is own the PS3 exclusives and the top multiplatform titles on the PS3 to compare graphics.

[denimsky]

360 and PS3 have the similar power except the blue-ray that 360 uses.

Three 3.0 GHZ power PC cores (6 hyperthreads) on the 360 vs one same core (2 hyperthreads) plus 5 SPUs on the PS3.
For me, those are pretty much equivalent power in terms of CPU power. The cell units with SPUs may have slight edge on the pipelined processing for graphics or audio but the 360 has the edge for bigger AI and gameplay logic processing due to the size limitation of the SPU memory - 256K of PS3. It is not easy to store back/force big AI logic in/out of SPUs.

I'm not the graphics expert but I heard that the 360 has a better GPU from the graphics people in my company. PS3 makes up not the best GPU with their CELL units so the SONY put burden on the developers for the graphics. In my opinion, SONY should've put better GPU on the PS3. It would've been amazing with their SPUs.

So, for me, yes it is possible to make the GOW on the 360. The power difference doesn't seem very big. But the practical problem might be the number of discs. Theoretically, you can make 5 dvds for 45GB. But I'm not sure it is realistic.

[scruffie1]

my understanding is this (in summary)

PS3 has a more efficient CPU optimized for gaming but the NVidea graphics card isn't as good as ATI one of the 360

360 - Not as good CPU as the PS3 from a gaming perspective but much better GFX card.

PC - depends greatly on gfx card doesn't matter if you have a double core, triple core or quad the faster and more expensive GPU's No1 requirement is power supply wattage.

As all games are developed on a PC which do you think is going to be easiest to port (and get best results from) the one with the better GPU or CPU?

I don't think this is a case of lazy developers more so the fact is that will delay the release and subsequently cost more.PS3 exclusive seem to have a budget like James Cameron's Avatar flick.

[Ju]

I'd switch that: "Not as good CPU as the PS3 from a gaming perspective but much better GFX card. " into

360 has the slightly (! far from "much better") gpu, but leaps and bounds slower CPU (at least if you consider the visual processing abilities in that regards). That would about hit it better.

[denimsky]

CPUs are the same for both consoles: 3.2 GHz Power PCs. Actually, the 360 Power PC is better due to it have more vector registers than the PS3.

But PS3 has 5 SPUs available. The strength of the SPU is not its fast speed but its blazing fast memory so you don't have to worry about cache misses etc. But each SPU has only 256KB. You only have 256KB for data, codes and the stack space. Yes, the SPU is very fast for something with small codes size and pipelined data. So, it is ideal for the graphics. That's why the PS3 makes up its slower GPU.

I'm not sure PS3 is so much faster than the 360 for graphics wise (GPU + cell engine combined) as Ju mentioned. I don't know because I'm not a graphics developer. End users should not speculate about this. To do that you need to add the link to the reference. It will be nice for a graphic engineer to clarify that.

But for complicated AI logic or physics logic, the SPU is not easy to deal with. The memory is way too small. The 360 is better with its shared memory for such system.

[Ju]

http://www.technology.scee....

Look at the timing. In most cases the CELL is not faster than the GPU, but the advantage is, it is almost as fast (or as fast), thus freeing up the GPU a lot. If you design that smart, you simply get features for free which the RSX was not even designed for.

[Morituri]

Gow3 could only be done on a ps3 and a high end computer. Other than that, I don't know of any other current platforms that could handle gow3 in it's current state. If anyone has any examples of any games that can rival it on any other platform besides the ps3, please be so kind as to point them out to us.

[mynd]

Why because of theire example of HDR?
Yeah fair enough how about oh I dont know PGR 3 launch title on the 360.
Get us some exmaples of why it cant be done first, not simply because you think so.

KZ2 cant be done on the 360 due to its deffered rendering/framebuffer.

There is nothing we have seen or been told about GOW3 that says or shows it cant be done on any other system.

[Morituri]

I respectfully disagree, along with most of the sane free world when I say, that until we see it, it doesn't exist. Put up or shut up.

[ironmonkey]

this has been said again and again we have not SEEN anything that has surpassed killzone2 or uncharted1 from 360 and we will NOT see anything that will surpass god of war

[SaberEdge]

God of War 3 is under Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 in the graphics department (at least based on the demo). Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are slightly above Gears 2, but not nearly to the degree some fanboys try to claim.

[True_Religion]

GoW3, MGS4, R&C series, Uncharted series and heavy Rain are reasons to buy a PS3. Its just my opinion. The other exclusives arent that good.

YOu can say of course the same about the 360.

[markettantrik]

Ah. The usual bullshit.

Next you'll here Microsoft say that Alan Wake is only possible on the Xbox 360.

Come to think of it, I dont recall such statements being made for Xbox exclusives.

[Unicron]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ge...

Which was pretty much shot down by titles like Arkham and UT3 (both great looking/running U3 engine games).

*cough*

[Shane Kim]

Tell us something we don't know.

[mynd]

"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."

What like every HDR empowered game on the 360.
Gimme a break.
ROFL.
I'm guessing they mean compared ot the PS2 maybe.

[I-SEE-YOU]

Well if Sony own the IP, then I suppose no other company would be able to see if it is possible on any other system. Still, to say that all Sony's exclusives could be achieved on the 360, would be being a bit stupid. As looking just at half of Sony's exclusives, it's easy to see that certain games just would not be able to be compacted onto DVD disks, nor would the graphics be able to be supported as the 360 and the PS3 work totally different. The PS3 is able to kick 10x more power out then anything else.

Gears of war 2, is 360's limit. You will not see anything out do that on the 360. It just shows, even with Uncharted 2, that the PS3 is in a league of its own.

[LiquifiedArt]

...any adult, kid or teen can argue against the PS3 capabilities. They said it and then they proved it. When I look at xbox game it looks like last-gen with alittle extra paint, but the PS3 game are next-gen in EVERY WAY. Animation, Physics, Lighting, Models, particles and features.

The only thing the ps3 lacks is the firmware microsoft has built for the xbox, but the ps3 is catching up to that too. The exclusives are better, there is more of them, they are more unique and there is no stop in sight. Sony's developers are the top-end devs in the gaming industry and they smartly built their house with the right foundations.

[scruffie1]

360 looks last generation ...please!

You saying the quality of the 360 is similar to that of the PS2?

[SaberEdge]

Oh please. MOST PS3 exclusives look like nothing special. You are going to talk crap just because 2 PS3 exclusives look slightly better than CURRENT 360 games?

[jack who]

lolz

[Blitzkid]

@ReBurn

Maybe i should invite you into my home that you can see the differences on a rally good TV :) Even i blind could see them.

That the game is multiplat is no excuse and changes nothing on the fact that Killzone 2 is graphically far better than MF2.

[Dtoxz]

Every little thing any dev says always gets taken out of context. They were using lighting as an example of one of the things in the game that the SPU's were handling. There are plenty of other things I'm sure its doing at the same time BESIDES lighting. They used that as one example. When I played the demo for the first time, I felt something......power. The game "felt" powerful. The strong sound effects, the beautiful lighting/graphics in general, even down to the gameplay. Everything felt like a God of War game only amplified by 10. Truthfully, the game knocked me on my ass. I think what they are saying is that all of the things combined in the game is powerful enough to be run on the ps3 only. But everyone has to turn it into a flame war. Do I think Sony can get c0cky sometimes? Hell yeah. But does Santa monica deserve a little respectful c0ckiness if they release the best GoW experience the world has seen? Of course.
Like it or not, God of War 3 (capable or not) is ONLY gonna be on ps3. Don't like it? Go buy a ps3 and quit your b1tchin. I'm sick of fanboy pricks.

[artsaber]

I did not curse or insult a single user... I simply asked the question of "Where are the games?" If the 360 can produce something comparable, or has something superior, then produce it. We are tired of the lies.

Yet people are able to post things like Tzunoy does in the GamerZone. Everything I stated was fact, especially my deductive reasoning post which is completely relevant to this article. It simply explained by deductive reasoning why the 360 could not produce a GOW3 quality game.

All naysayers have to do is name one living active 360 game that looks better than UC1, UC2, KZ2, or the God of War 3 demo. These points are completely relevant in this respectful disagreement. No 360 fan can produce the name of a game to refute otherwise. That is not inflammatory, it is factual.

What is with you mods, really?

[The Iron Sheik]

No way GOW3 is possible on the 360. I've played the E3 demo and it is a huge 2.6 GB and the demo is maybe 10-15 minutes long. I think that should tell you that this is only possible with Blu Ray.

BTW the demo which is supposedly an older build of the game still looks better than anything on the 360. Spin all you want bots you know I'm right.

[SaberEdge]

No it doesn't. I have the God of War 3 demo and I wasn't overly impressed. It looks good, but Uncharted 2, Gears of War 2 and Killzone 2 all look better.

[The Iron Sheik]

Aren't you one of those people who said the Halo Reach trailer looked better than Killzone 2? If yes than I wouldn't take your opinion seriously.

[condorstrike]

don't get me wrong, i think the ps3 is the best system out there, but hdr can be had even on the Wii, and the gow3 demo was nice but, not groundbreaking in any way, just a good game.

[RamiHixxy]

Just get it in to your heads x-botz 'YOU CAN WIN ANYTHING'!!!

[bioshock1221]

LOL Sony always does this its funny how no one else outside of Sony ever says this.

[ZILLA]

its gonna crush EVERY game EVER made(period)

[baodeus]

@Ju

"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.

"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."

They don't just toss out words, they came up with facts.

And i guess u haven't play halo, Forza, star ocean 4, or other game that employed HDR lighting on x360. Why don't u go and drive in a tunnel in forza and u get out of it and see that u have to adjust to the sunlit area...exactly like what Sony just described. Go play halo as well as ninja gaiden 2. So why it is not possible on x360 or haven't u play any x360 games to know about it?

Forza 3
http://www.youtube.com/watc... (look at 8'40" - 8'45")

Halo 3 ODST
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Star ocean 4
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Fable 2 (not sure if it is HDR, but it is sure look dam good)
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...

See that is the problem with fanboy. they own only one console and when ever the PR say the game only can be done on x360 or PS3, they just jump right on the bandwagon and ran with it. Do u guys ever question what Sony and MS saying? It is for business and promoting their game. Who in their right mind would say that their game is also possible on the opposite console? it just doesn't make good business sense to say such thing.

Games from each console have their up and down. PS3 and x360 are very close in strength. One has better CPU the other has better GPU. Only fanboy thinks otherwise, especially Sony fanboy on here. I do give credit to ND and GG to make really good looking game. MS do rely too much on 3rd party games that use pretty much Unreal engine. there are better engine out there like MT engine(RE5 http://www.gametrailers.com... Unreal engine is easy for all platform, but it is really not specialize for one console and that is the problem. And why would 3rd party optimize for one console, they not gonna have a chance to double their profit.

[Ju]

Nice stamping me as a fanboy here but linking to some (low res) youtube videos.

No, I would say, GoW3 uses one of the most advanced programming methods for the PS3. Some of which are described in this document: http://www.technology.scee....

Used in Sony's reference engine, their PhyrEngine. And while maybe not to be taking as the top notch engine it is the research base for deferred programming methods on the PS3 platform. This particular document describes various scenarios what can be employed.

Sony Santa Monica (as well as other 1st party studios) might well be contributors to that engine/document and are on the cutting edge of PS3 development.

This is, why I believe how they use the PS3 and how they deploy the SPUs in their engine is one of the most advanced methods today. That's why I can agree if the say "done only on the SPU" and "can't be done on any other system", simply because it can't. And not, because "somebody said so".

[denimsky]

-

[poopnscoop]

lol @ GOW3. I played da demo and it looks jus OK at best. Xbox 360 culd easily handle it.

[yogaflame]

Its just me but if you compare a Ps3 exclusive from a xbox 360 exclusive like UC2, KZ2 versus Halo, Gears or L4d, ps3 graphics is a mile ahead and even critics can agree with that. Kz2 was considered the best looking FPS ever in console, UC2 is the best looking game ever in any console, most critics and game reviewers mentioned. And soon GT5 is the best looking racing game ever.

It can only be done because of Blue ray storage capability and of course Cell computation power. Even tech heads in magazines and websites agree that "Cell" is a pretty piece of technology. I believe it can only run on Ps3, look at FF13. It experience a massive downgrade because of storage capability and more computation power for ps3, the graphics was downgraded.

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

I only own a ps3 but I love gaming all gaming I don;t give a shAt what system it is on....

But these articles are pissing me off... I am not going to use this sie for news any more...

To the safety of the forums...

[denimsky]

I agree. I own both consoles but I'm not sure why people are even arguing about this. This is the only thing that I don't like about N4G. The competition is always good otherwise we may be still seeing $500 PS3s.

[ChickeyCantor]

Smells like Sony-fanboymonia in here.

[baodeus]

@Ju,

No duh, i don't think xbox 360 has spu does it? Of course it can't be done. Only PS3 cell has the spu right?

Both console can do HDR lighting, but their approach are different due to different design. Saying HDR lighting (as described by SONY PR for GoW3) can only be done on PS3 is misleading. The PR should have said the HDR lighting using the SPU can only be done on the PS3 would make more sense. But of course, they want to leave that part out.

Now if it is more advance, i don't know. GoW3 isn't out yet, and from the look of things based on x360 games that use HDR lighting, i don't think u gonna see any difference if at all. It is like a new way to do HDR lighting for the PS3, but not necessarily more advance. Since the cell is capable of handling HDR, the RSX isn't need for that. It would free up the RSX to do other tasks. The PS3 can utilize the cell to support the GPU and that has always been Sony approach this gen. On the other hand, X360 GPU is strong enough to do HDR lighting and other things at the same time.

Like i said earlier, PS3 has the Cell and x360 has the GPU. Give and take, they are about the same. It is really up to the developer to optimize the games.