EA has announced they will be removing many servers for their sports title coming just 1 month away on February 2nd, 2010 for Xbox 360, Playstation 3 and the PC.
thats bullcrap. I dont know why they are dropping servers to a game thats not even 2 yet? Thats a low move. That right there is the main reason why I wont ever buy EA sports games again. It be different if they didn't come out with rehashes every year.
Let's face it EA isn't exactly going through it's up point... it's releasing new IP's and I'm sure EA probably did cost effectiveness data and workout. Let's face it how many people do you still think play said games?
Yes, but '09 games? Thats just wrong.
This is why I hate buying EA games that have online. EA games will never last because of this. Bet they will shut down Bad Company servers too.
That is a load of crap. This is why EA has their own servers. It sure as hell is not because it makes the game better because it actually makes it worse.(Their servers suck) EA has their own servers so they can cut you off and try to push you to buy the new version. If I ever buy sports games I will 100% of the time go with 2K.
How many people still play Madden 09 online? It will suck for original Xbox owners though since they didn't get a Madden 10 this year, apparently Madden 09 still sold about 50k units which isn't bad for a "dead" console. This is why I like it when developers use both Dedicated Servers and P2P in their games like Shadowrun, Section 8, etc. That way even when the last server is shut down people cans till play over P2P if they wanted to.
Hence the reason why games shouldn't have online trophies / achievements....
They also support copy protected saves. Basically if they stop the online support for these the games they're being disabled and losing functionality. EA also pushs for copy protected saves. Basically, when your games lose support or they shut down the servers the software loses it's functionality. Gamers have become too accepting of these careless greedy practices. When you buy a product it should be self sufficient and not require the online components to function. When functionality is restricted or removed these hard copy games become worth about as much as the materials used to create the disk. EA and other developers will continue towards this path because it's the most profitable way to push customers into the new products by obsoleting the previous years products. Figure it this way. If the auto industry followed these examples every year or two we'd need to purchase a new car because the parts are no longer manufactured or compatible. This is the way the gaming industry is headed. Gamers don't even realize it. We're losing backwards compatibility, losing the ability to backup our saves, the ability to resale or trade our games and the ability to play online after the titles become outdated. What does it take to open the eyes of uneducated gamers this generation? The ability to pop in a game and enjoy it is being slowly taken away by greedy developers who only want to make money. This means creating products that have a limited or fixed lifespan. By shutting down online servers or features games are being disabled feature by feature. It's sad really that most gamers only live in the moment and refuse to look ahead to the future when they purchase from developers who push this. A lot of gamers talk down on PAY-PER-PLAY that Microsoft is pushing but haven't figured that we're still headed that direction with games that lose functionality. Please wake up all games are headed to limited subscription and everything this generation will lose a lot of functionality come next generation.
wtf? Madden NFL 2009 still has TONS of players on the Xbox 360 and PS3 and they are dropping it? This is why Microsoft did not want to allow EA to host their own servers when Xbox LIVE launched - unfortunately, they threatened to not support the system if so. Ironic part about that now is Peter Moore is president of EA Sports and is still allowing this. We now have to fear payign $60 for only 1 year of online play? GTFO. Maybe now people will stop buying EA online games becuase this is Bull, they need to get the picture.
Impressive Electronic arts . i know a lot of people how use sports game that aren't up to date .. WHy ? because a good sports game doesn't became crap as soon as the new one is out ... Why shutting down LAST YEAR servers ... ?? This is pretty stupid ....EA really can't resist the taste of money ...
Yep, companies shouldn't have to support old* games so they can make more money. *This message was written while taking a break from my online session of Diablo II on Battle.net which I bought a decade ago from one of the most financially successful developers of all time. I can't imagine why Blizzard is such a successful company that is praised and loved by the gaming community! *Shrugs shoulders* ...
suddenly you guy's see why pc gaming evolved and dedicated servers became a staple. "I can't imagine why Blizzard is such a successful company that is praised and loved by the gaming community!" I'm so sure it had nothing to do with a game that brings them a couple billion a month. Kotick's set to get his claws sunk into Blizzard. Blizzard is on course to becoming the next Infinity Ward if they don't do anything about it. in-game cash shop for pets, 3 different full priced installments for Starcraft, no lan for Diablo 3...When WoW dies, Blizzard will become a shadow of its former self.
online only or majority online games. Thanks EA...I'm sure I'll be able to pick up Madden 09 for $5 soon and play locally like I prefer anyway.
wow, that's pretty sad on their behalf. Think of how many husbands and sports fans probably got Madden 09 for x-mas only to find the support for the online community dropped 2 months later. If this crap continues they should be fair about it charge $40 or less for the disk. Lets hope activision and other developer's don't see any value in this.
damn the person who got you the game is cheap giving you a year old sports game
you get what you pay for, bots.
With P2P you don't need to worry about servers getting shut down. How long do you think Sony will keep Killzone 2 or UC2 servers up? With P2P they stay up and never go down. Thats why alot of PS3 owners like me are asking for premium services over at the PS3 forums. you PS3 fanboys are worse than the xbots you bash.
greedy bastards. Madden is already a million selling game why force those few still playing 09 to upgrade..
Because it's not worth the money or time.
I mean what do they think, they are supposed to be in business to make money. Come on, give your stuff away for free, and spend millions supporting it forever. Jerks. Edit: Below. yes, and I love my ps3 and I sorta like my wii. Your point? Companies shouldn't wan't to make money? In a perfect world, yes they would support last years game forever or at least 5 years, but when a new one comes out every year, are they supposed to continue supporting online play for 2007, 2008 as well? Like others have said, if you don't like it don't buy it. Pretty simple. Especially for PS3 ownerrs of the that game, since you don't pay to play online, you can't really complain when they drop support, now 360 owners of the game, I can see some complaining, but like I said, if you are a die hard madden player, you probably got the new one, and if your wife was dumb enough to buy the old one, better teach her about it. I had too. My wife bought me all pro football one year about a month after I bought madden. Now she knows. Why try and turn this into a 360 fanboy thing anyway? Its about a company wanting to make money, and they obviously figured that this is a way to do it. The article doesn't even say how many people are playing those games. Maybe its a handfull of people. The article is a fail for that. So don't go and complain when you don't know the entire story.
Hutch, LET ME GUESS! You love you Xbox 360 don't you!
"I mean what do they think, they are supposed to be in business to make money. Come on, give your stuff away for free, and spend millions supporting it forever. Jerks." Ok first of all they don't haft to support it. They choose to use their own POS servers instead of just letting people use PSN/Xbox servers like everybody else. The reason that they do this is so that they can end a game and force you to go to next years game. Also several of the games they are discontinuing support games or 09 games! There is no justifying that.
They don't even say how many people are playing those said games. So how can you say there is no justification. What if its 8 people, then its justified to keep spending money supporting the game. Sorry, thats not how you stay in business. You have to make decisions that are gonna tick some people off. You can't keep everyone happy all the time. Unless you work for EA and know exactly why they are doing it, and its just to make people mad not to actually be profitable.
From a business standpoint, this is a good move. Sorry to say it guys, but these people have jobs to do and families to take care of...just like you.
the game was only released in the middle of August. 6 months of server time is not enough. The people buying these have families to take care of as well and can't be forking over $60 every time EA wants to bend you over. edit: lol thanks Pirate for pointing that out, you think that's bad you should see me on leap year! Still a full 2 years would be better.
Err... Madden 10 was released in August, this game was from 2008.
Are you a stockholder that supports the rape of your customers? Have the ability to be a private host so I can play a match with a friend and this would not be a issue. EA wants to control your online so if people wake up and realize it's roster update 2010 they can force you to buy the current model.
one of the advantages of P2P online gaming
Guys, this is Madden 09, NOT 10! Pay attention to the headline here.
it is still ridiculous.
I wonder how much of this decision is based on used game sales hurting their new release. I went into a game store the other day and saw used copies of '09 lined up on the shelves in a far more prominent position than the '10 version.
thats their way to say "buy 2010 edition"
add in the fact that ever since they started those paid stats and rosters updates , especially for fifa ... they've been ripping off their customers . Basically you're told to buy each european's big league update , or a big pack .. or else you're left with an out of date roster , wich you can not edit in any simple way (they dont allow mods unlike pes) , only one player at a time . Plus comes May they dont even gives any update anymore ... after all you've only paid for the season , and they do want to kick you out and into the next fifa .. now matter how small the differences will be between it and the next one . I find the method disgusting , and based on that alone (and the fact that anyway i still prefer PES , because of the gameplay) i'll never buy a fifa . At least as long as this crap stands . Hell somebody should try to even sue their a.ses , they monopolize the fifa licence , only to freeze full access to it , and requiring more money . So basically after bleeding costumers dry with their odd dlcs , they as well stop the servers in the same fashion for fifa 09 , once 11 is around ? That's absolutely great !
Way too soon....
...I noticed Madden 09 and 07 disappearing, but where's the 360 and PS3 versions of madden 08? As far as Facebreaker goes, that should've just been straight-up cancelled altogether.
Facebreaker and NBA Street?? EA has not even made sequels or have announced them so why punish the owners of those games, that probably still play them??
Cancel them,. If your playing an EA sports title over 2 seasons old especially football, your playing a very dated game. Kits, players, league positions etc etc. Who wants to play old versions of those games. Shut them down i say.
that's not for you to decide lol ... Some of those games arent even really different from their actual versions or got any sequel yet , wich only what you described as outdated ... wich is fixable via editing and modding . But of course not to EA's taste . If anything i bet they are shutting it down because there are too many people , more than many would believe , that arent making the jump to the lastest versions , and they are trying to force the issue . Man and people complain about fighting games ans their sequels , while every year they buy in far bigger numbers the same game with minor tweaks and a license they already paid an hefty price the year before...
Especially sports could have a patch. A patch for the kit's, rosters, leagues etc etc etc. But they are there to make money as well as improve the game each year. So when a game gets over a couple of years old, they want you to buy the better, newer version to play online. If you don't want to and want to keep playing the older version, you can, but just not online.
Or you can just buy the concurrents who still allow mods . Wich i'd advise anyone who cares .
This will happen to the vast majority of online console games. That's why complaining that a game doesn't have an absurd deathmatch or some online component is stupid. I'd be crying over more offline content because that is the only viable part of a game. People are just moronic to think every game should have on line of some kind in it. I remember when Infamous came out and people B*tched because it didn't have one. why? It doesn't need one. Uncharted doesn't either. Ratchet & Clank doesn't either. Some games just don't have to have one. I'd rather the developers spend more time, money and energy on offline DLC than downloadable online DLC anyday of the week. Oh boy, more multiplayer maps for us to shoot eachother in. Alright! And that's all it ever even is. A new map or a new character skin. Big yank.
p2p wins again
you really are a moron
Madden 09 was garbage. Madden 10 is the best version of Madden EVER!!!! If you are still playing Madden 09 online at this point when Madden 10 is sooooo affordable....then too bad for your cheap ass. stop whining. I used to hate all Madden versions before Madden 10. Madden 10 is what they should have been releasing from the beginning of the next gen. 2k football was the best but EA is finally understanding what people want from a football game. This is a new beginning and a great football game.
Didn't EA say they take online gaming "very seriously"? What kinda move is this?
suckers i'll never buy a madden game!
So if the new Dead Space is supposed to have online how long will those serves stay up? I'm guessing until Dead space 3?
i doubt it would have issues . EA probably only dare pulling that bull with sports franchise . At least for now , but like every bad practice , as soon as it's common , it will spread for every category .
Wow, if I was a fan of this crap I would raise hell on their forums. This is some of the worst customer service I have ever heard of. I mean, don't most people buy the game for the online to compete with others? I would think so anyway, very bad move.
meh given how some people dont make a fuss with season limited dlcs , i doubt it will amount to much but a few rants like mines .. At most one or two petition . The real revolution of the "Next gen" era so far , has been how people slowly but surely becomes sheep and junkies , ready to accept any kind of treatment for a fix ..
ok, most, if not all, of the games they're not going to support anymore are sh*tty games anyways; however, facebreaker, nascar 09, and madden 09 aren't even that old. i can see why they would cut back on supporting some of these titles since they're not generating a lot of users online and therefore wasting time and money, but not supporting madden 09 is anal. maybe if EA Sports released better sports games every year we wouldn't have this problem, but it looks like they have to employ strategic ways to force players to play online. can not wait till 2K can make some more football games again. hell, i wish sony would make an exclusive NFL licensed football game after seeing how polished MLB: 09 is.
remember the days when you had a choice of 3 or 4 football titles each year? sony,activision,visual concepts, midway, Ea sports competing each year? you may not be old enough to remember that.
are you kidding me? i still remember when john madden football crapped it's way on the scene in the late 80's on the apple. 989, EA, Midway, Sega, etc all had a license for using the NFL trademark and it's properties until 2K sports were riding on Madden's ass in terms of quality and pricing (20 bucks new for NFL2K5!) and like a bunch of scared b*tches they bought the trademark exclusively because EA knew they couldn't compete against them. now like any other monopoly in the business, they take the easy way out with no competition every year expecting the mindless madden drones to buy their rehashed games. trust me man, i feel you (i think) on how the old days of football games were so much better.
"989, EA, Midway, Sega, etc all had a license for using the NFL trademark and it's properties until 2K sports were riding on Madden's ass in terms of quality and pricing (20 bucks new for NFL2K5!) and like a bunch of scared b*tches they bought the trademark exclusively because EA knew they couldn't compete against them" Sorry, need to correct you there. It was the NFL that decided to go exclusive with EA for the NFL license. NFL does exclusive deals and has draconian-like rules about licenses and TV blackout rules and everything else all the time (see their deal with DirecTV for Sunday Ticket). It's not surprising when you think about that.
oh, i wasn't aware of that. thanks for clarifying. whatever the case is, i'm still despondent about Madden's progression in the series.
im really glad i dont play EA games....if i bought madden 09 i would be pissed right now actually i lied...i did buy Dragon Age, luckily its not online tho but rest assured thats the last EA logo in my collection....i was looking forward to dead space 2 :(
Very low move. I bought 3 EA games. Looks like time to quit EA again. AHoles.
madden o9 is been out for a while and 10 came out already so i dont see why not, of course they want the gamers to buy the new game, is simple mi friends if u wana play online get the 10 version cuz that what hot now, if u dont like it dont buy it , buy something else
I paid $115.00 dollars for the 2009 collectors edition and strategy guide at launch.I did not feel 2010 warranted enough of an UPGRADE in any facet to buy it. EA will have to BLOW ME AWAY to get me to buy another Madden. Now NHL 10 and that series gets my money EVERY YEAR.
We need to stop buying these dam bloody yearly releases that just offer minor upgrades! Like Madded 09, 10, FIFA, etc. I personallly only get these games every 2 years. I firmly believe that upgrades/updates and DLC are the way to go. New football (soccer) players and teams can all be offered via downloads and not an entirely new game. Can anyone really tell the minor differences? do these additions significantly improve upon gameplay? ????
16 months later they decide to close down the servers, which really whats wrong with that. Madden 10 plays better IMO, and i dont even own the game, my friend does and i just play it when i go over. and for me who is a scrub on madden games, find Madden 10 a lot easier to handle. who honestly plays madden 09? i have yet to see anyone play this game, the instant Madden 10 came out, it replaced 09 on XBL active games online. whats bad about killing the servers for games that is outdated, for these sports game last year games are outdated by this years release. since everyone talking about business, would u rather have EA higher the price for Bad Company 2? they can seriously pull the plug on old server they can higher the price of BC2 to cover expenses. no damage done here IMO, this will affect small gamers but not the huge amount, and for EA thats a loss they are willing to go through.
nobody is playing online in this game
So is that server already gone?
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