Crytek finally gives the first, brief details on Crysis 2, its setting and reveals new screenshots.
""Crysis is going to consoles, so the design must be gimped" topic, Camarillo explains that that's "not necessarily" the case. "In some ways it has allowed us to avoid overdesigning features, to keep the focus narrower and tight for a compelling experience on all platforms."" In otherwords: Gimped :(
Yea such BS. I have all consoles and a Gaming PC I wish they would have just kept it exclusive to PC so I could have an excuse to upgrade my PC again. :)
Too bad. This game is all eye candy anyway
gimped and probably 10x more linear ooooh well I doubt anyone had high hopes for it anyway
I still have high hopes for Crysis though. They said the console and PC development was being done separately.
For the first time I feel guilty as a console owner..... I loved Crysis and it's open world.. Hope they don't change it too much. If it's a step back from Crysis 1, then it's bad for gaming. Have high hopes for Crysis 2.
And that might change the overall structure of the pc version but I doubt the pc version will be gimped with regards to technical prowess and scope. it might mean a more linear path in some sections but the idea of verticality intrigues me, and might offer some much needed variation in the crysis wash - rinse - repeat scheme of things. (really i loved the first one, but most missions consisted of a small town or outpost with an objective, i found it got repetitive way too quickly)
Yeah, it's sad. Can we, though, not blame anyone as a gamer for this as Crytek are just chasing the money after getting a lot of stick last time with the first game meaning a lot of people(including myself) had to upgrade to really appreciate Crysis. In fact I can't think of another game that has pushed PC tech as hard since then so maybe it was a watershed/Concorde moment that we won't see very often again:( I don't see why they would gimp it, mind, unless it's the issue with arcade 360's again not having an HDD,is that maybe it, IDK? Surely giving a mandatory install to 360 and PS3 would allow the PC version to be open as they liked taking the console versions with it AND allowing the extra res etc on top, no? Or would that be too easy? I still believe it was the lack of an HDD that cut down the size of the open world in Rage myself despite Carmack wanting to stay mates with the whole world! I suppose, though, it would pi55 people off if the PC got better visuals AND more game as well so I understand them doing it when the PS3 has no piracy to speak of and even the 360 way less than the PC./ I also was thinking about piracy on PC again the other day and wondered if they wouldn't be better commisioning a deeper study into just what the extent and effects of piracy are to the PC gaming industry as, in my experience, most of the people I know that pirate games do so because they either can't afford to buy a game anyway(so noone loses anything really)or do it to try a game out which they'll then buy if they enjoy it to enjoy all it has to opffer on and offline, no? sure there's sewrial pirates and cheapskkates around but I really don't know if the effects are quite as bad for the industry as they make out. It's like the "home taping is killing music" thing in the 80's-it wasn't as anyone would rather have bought the CD/Vynil than had a crappy tape and did so if they could afford it and 90% of cassettes were made to be used in Walkmen/carstereos by people who'd actually bought the record already! IMO these things are often not quitrte as black and white as they seem at first glance-or am I being too romantic? Back OT-I think it's a little sad that games are being made across platforms without being truly optimised because of the desire for parity between the consoles-and now it's spreading to PC. If I was a director I think I'd be frustrated at not being able to maake the very best game I could for eacj platform, no?
translation, the AI and controls are going to take a big hit
Well the pc gamers had it coming. The piracy numbers were huge.
Pandamobile leads the PC fanboy brigade to war against console enthusiasts. You're a funny guy. It's a "no buy" for me, the jungle setting is beyond "played out" for me. Makes me think Crytek can't provide good visuals outside of that setting. Personally, they should've thought of making a console version from the beginning and then maybe we wouldn't have the mess of a shooter we call Crysis today.
Just like people knew FFXIII would be gimped! It's not a fanboy thing; Multiplats are just gimped and there's no getting around it, Except that 360 fanboys latch on to multiplats as if they're exclusive, is the only fanboy thing going on! I don't even have a gaming PC!
The hard drive and disc space doesnt have anything to do with why its gimped. Its gimped cause neither console has a graphics card that can run an entire island jungle on any cryengine 2 or 3 lol... So they are going to have to try to close off sections of jungles instead of it being a huge open world.
I judge the whole presentation like -visuals -animation -art style -physics -lighting I mean yea the console are so gimped same with ff13 to the 360
Crysis 1 is already gimped. First off Crytek couldn't make a proper controller configuration if they tried, on the menu screen the cursor for the mouse is off by about 2 inches from where it should be in order to be able to easily click on any of the options, some of the checkpoints don't work properly, the game gets really boring up until you enter the alien ship because you're fighting the same people all throughout the game, the vehicles control like absolute crap, on Crysis: Warhead I fell through the map 2 times while playing through it and the online has people lagging and teleporting all around the maps, the maps for online play are way way way too big for the few people that are usually playing making it look like a ghost town and you guys are worried about consoles gimping the PC version?.......please. I'm starting to wonder if some of you PC guys have ever played any decent games. If you look at Panda's posts, the only games he's ever played are all games made by Valve and Crysis....thats all folks, nothing to see here.
"new kind of jungle" a.k.a. "concrete jungle" a.k.a. a city environment. Crysis 2 will be in urban environments. Yay. =/
Yeah, urban environments sound right. It could be pretty cool if every building can be entered. Also, this interview ( http://www.incrysis.com/ind... ) says that CryENGINE 3 supports procedural destruction so maybe some buildings could be destroyed. That would be awesome.
You know how much potential this would have if it was PC exclusive! This could be a gaming PC system seller! Fully enterable buildings with destruction where you blow a whole in the ceiling and ambush the guys on the upper floor!
I'm sure we'll be seeing some city environments. I'm guessing a large African city maybe...? That way they could transition it from city to jungle and back.
They want to give players a more focused experience. So that means more linear and scripted. I guess that's not too bad... PC gamers will probably rage that Crytek's moving away from what made the original so great and what not, but since Crysis and Warhead didn't receive the amounts of praise they deserved, they're probably not afraid to test new waters.
Crysis sold like 2 million copies and scored a 91 on Metacritic. I'd say that's plenty.
2 million isn't enough for fanboys. Crysis and Warhead is one of the best games I've played.
They sold 2 million? Hmm, then what was all the fuss about Crysis not earning enough money? What was the development budget? Why's Crytek trying to have Crysis on consoles when they were supposedly sucessful on the PC? I enjoyed Warhead - a lot more than Crysis 1. I felt that the action was tighter, and I loved those small SMGs dual wielded!
warhead was great I agree. Definitely a must have if you've got a solid pc. @albert Crysis started off slow. REALLY slow. After the first month it was around 50k copies sold. It was labeled a flop for quite awhile actually until the 1 year mark. Imho I believe Crytek made the decision to develop for console well before the 2 million mark. I guess we'll see if that pays off for them. I do hope they continue their pc work. They are extremely talented and I'm sure they are the type to not want to be limited to what's inside a console.
The amount of user content and mods for Crysis is absolutely amazing. Crysis 2 better ship with the new CryEditor or there will be many pissed modders. Never has a singleplayer game kept me so interested more than 2 years after its launch. I'll go on CryMod and find some new single player maps with new environments and awesome enemy ambush points, or install a new TOD to make Crysis' lighting look near photorealistic. Crysis 2 will fizzle out pretty quickly on the consoles, in my opinion. Without the onslaught of new user content it will fall pretty flat with console gamers unless they make the multiplayer 10x more awesome than the last one.
@albert_275 Crysis sold very well, but the CEO of Crytek, Cevat Yerli, wants to see even better numbers. He wants to see Call of Duty-level sales in the 6+ million range. That is why Crysis 2 is on consoles. Unfortunately for him, he will never see numbers like that.
@panda-there's no reason at all why we can't have mods on all three platforms though, is there? the only reason anyone i know still plays UT3 on the PS3 is because we can make and import our mods and there's key/mouse support too so whyever wouldn't they look at that for each platform this time when, I agree, there's some amazing stuff i've played made for Crysis? My biggest issue with the almighty con called L4D on the 360 is the total lack of mods-it's why most 360 gamers were more happy to see Valve make L4D2 than PC gamers imo-it's abigger issue than the fact I paid twice as much as I did on Steam, that it looks like crap and runs badly compared to my PC version or the fact Valve don't support it anywhere near as well on console. Allow us mods to bring in though and the picture would change immediately so, unless MS and Valve just wanted quick cash because the dev tools being similar allowed a quick, low cost port and damn the quality 360 gamers got, just why isn't there mod/community support for either L4D on the 360? REALLY annoys me, tbh, and I really hope Crytek get mods onto consoles like Epic/Sony managed as it really gives games legs and console only gamers might not have experienced this kind of thing before.
@mastifchild UT3 is about the only game on the ps3 that has a modding community. Most console devs do not like the idea of giving console users the ability to mod games. Since they would like console users to be done with a game, then have money ready for the next game. They do not like longitivity in console games, like games have it on the pc. As an example i still play some very old PC games being CS, warcraft 3. Notice even if a developer likes to hand out free stuff, like valve does for the PC version of its games. Companies like microsoft would rather make a profit on it. Hence i do not think microsoft or sony would like console gamers to keep playing old games modding them then extending the life of the game for years. Its just not going to happen sony and microsoft are too much in the RED to allow that to happen. The pc on the other hand isnt controlled by anyone, thus the community gets alot more value for their money.
Well that explains why Crysis is on OnLive, OTOY services already then. Either way its likely Crysis can pick up those numbers. It just needs the right kinda push behind it. I think its certainly possible with time.
like the movie avatar? floating mountain? :P
as opposed to tropical rain forest. http://thundafunda.com/2/tr... (pretty much the pacific north weastern coast) vs http://cop15post.com/wp-con... edit: some moded crysis examples http://i25.tinypic.com/2cnz... http://www.centrale3d.com/I... http://www.seithcg.com/pict... http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3... http://img408.imageshack.us...
That's a very good possibility, Xi. They have been showing more North American-looking forrests and vegetation in some of the tech demo videos.
sorry bots at least it wont get gimped because of the dvd9 panda killzone2 uncharted 1,2 and heavy rain gt5 god of war 3 say hi
When they say new type of jungle, they're not talking about North American forests and things like that. I'm willing to bet that they're talking about city environments. Their hints are so obvious. The cityscape is often called the modern jungle. Anyways, Stonecold is a biased twat.
they may be 4 year old hardware, but the ps3 still produces games that rival the best looking game available on PC due to the time and care devs spend optimising their games for the platform. Unfortunately for PC owners, devs dont tend to optimise our games much and we have to upgrade our PCs every year or so :(
if you are upgrading every year then you are doing it wrong and i doubt you really even are a pc gamer.
Crysis run on DVD 9 Moron.
Yep I will be pissed if it is Gimped I love the massive maps on Crysis and Crysis Warhead It makes the game feel more real Every console game has the fin corridor A to B gameplay Crysis 2 better not be like this.
If anyone was expecting the console verson of this upcoming game to be the same as the PC version will be greatly disappointed.
the pc is not powerful enough to handle heavy rain and gt5 and the ps3 lets you to play online though msn and google with keyboard and mouse
Lol, YOUR PC, maybe. The PS3 and 360 are 3 and 4 year old PC hardware.
he probably games on his gramas pc.
I'm just about to get around to playing the original (didn't have the PC for it for years). Nice to see there will be a sequel around the corner by the time I'm done with it.
Looking forward to Crysis 2. Really hoping it showing up on consoles doesn't ruin it for PC gamers too.
4 years old? How there s no game on pc such as u2,kz2,HR(in all departments visuals,art,ai,animations...) except crysis from 2007? And again crysis in 2010? And u know resolution is not everything,right? And it did not sold 2mil,where did u find that?Last charts published shows it surpased 1mil? It ll be funny when console version outsold pc version,mark my words. @champ u cant wait to download it from torrent,am i right? Building 1000$ pc than downloading games from torrent.
4years old is true unless you live under a rock 78xxgtx = ancient which is why the ps3 doesnt do 1080p in 90% of its releases. making assumptions wont get your anywhere. i own over 60games on steam alone. its cool they will be playable in afew years time. cant say that for the ps3 can we? huge stack of unplayable games just like what happend to the ps2. asides the 3 games you mentioned on the ps3 there isnt anything else worth mentioning, so why just for 3-5 games sacrifice game quality on rest of the games coming out. most games are multiplat and we all know which platform does that best ;-) id rather take the superior experience play all the multiplats on pc and save some money while i am at it. id reserve the ps3 for its exclusives. not to mention multiplats on pc far out do the games you just mentioned i am not even counting the pc exclusives yet.
ONLY crysis surpasses GT5 visually (which is dispuable actually, none of it's models are as high a quality as GT5's cars. Each car having between 400,000 and 450,000 polygons, heavy rain, UC2, KZ2 and the last guardian visually is because development on the pc is terrible. Games are not optimised for their hardware at all. But theres no way around it due to the vast multitude of hardware that people use. Thats why PC enthusiasts get shafted having to pay near thousands to upgrade their computer every couple of years. Whereas console owners get graphical and audio splendour every few months from sony without having to ever upgrade (at least until next gen) Multiplat games, even if they are on PC, dont surpass those games Im sorry but dude what are you smoking? I have a gaming PC myself I should know... And as for disregarding the ps3 except for its exclusives, thats just terrible xD there are a lot of multiplats that arent worth owning, and pretty much every ps3 exclusive is much better than any multiplat, so in all the superior games are generally exclusives. So you're saying that to play games that you can play on your ps3 with little to no difference at all and probably less exclusive content you'd go out and spent crazy money on hardware that will be obsolete due to PC developments inferior optimisations in a year?
can we please let the myth of constant upgrades die. its a known fact even 3year old pcs outperform the ps3 in about every game. Go check igns head to head, ign a console supportive website still uses 8800gtx as their gpu to test pc games. Pc claims victory over consoles in almost every head to head using that old hardware that alone is enough to demolish the myth of constant upgrades. IMO 8800gtx should be good till the end of this gen. 8800gtx has been mentioned so many times on n4g you have to be blind or simply ignorant to not have seen it. plays all games till date @ 1080p and yea as for multiplats out doing ps3 exclusives visually you got so many: Farcry 2 Assassins creed resident evil 5 dirt2 grid just to name afew all the above games beat ps3 exclusives running on 3yr old pc hardware, and yea the 3yr old hardware runs them at 1080+ resolutions, something the ps3 can only dream off. so i dont get your comment on spending crazy amount of money. If anything the game prices on consoles are enough to make console gaming more expensive then pc. check out the deals currently available on steam, you will get what i mean.
you guys do realise the only way consoles are able to last 7 years is by cheating on resolutions, AA and lower quality of textures. I could have pc games running on a 7800gtx even today, which is about 4-5 years old. Though i would have to run the games on little to no AA and i would have run the game @ 1024*768 or maybe even lower, isnt that what most console games run at? so are constant upgrades needed? in a word NO. If you willing to play at those resolutions on a console then you might as well be fine with lower resolutions on PC as well.
ps3 has some good exclusives which i love. Though i now majorly play on the pc, as most of the games just run better on pc.
If steam is discounting warhead today im buying i liked the first crysis but never got around to play the second 1 with all the other games coming out. So is warhead better then crysis or on par? I hate when games go multiplatform they are bound to be gimped especially from pc to consoles.
warhead is an awesome game. buy it while its on discount.
Than Crysis in my opinion. Just the Alien ship in the first Crysis got on my nerves.
bought maximum edition when i upgraded my pc, i'm not getting great framerates tho which is really annoying (especially when my pc is more powerful than my mate who reckons he can get around 50fps on max but i'm struggling to get 30 on max (high gets around 40+) got a core i5, gtx 260 and 4gb DDR3 ram lol i wudda thought i wudnt have any problems?
what settings are you playing the game at? for a 260gtx i would recommend 1080p high settings (not the highest) and keep AA turned off. turn motion blur off. game should run fine with these settings.
need improving A LOT. Hoping that they'll lose the laughable generic plotline and actually incorporate some decent damn dialogue, set pieces and such this time. Hell they could take notes from uncharted 2 :) :P
i bought warhead yesterday been playing today i got in to warhead a lot quicker i did the first crysis runs amazing with overclocked 5750 40-50fps max settings 8x aa
I don't see why you'd want to waste resources on AA, does jaggies bother people that much?
Cant wait to see what Crytek 2 look like on a 4 year old $600 PC.
except a 4yr old pc can be upgraded to a new cpu and gpu for about 200usd and be set for another 3-4years.. cant do the same with a console. still will be @ 1080 on that pc, what will the consoles be doing? 600P @ 25 fps? low res textures no aa lol
uh thats where PC fails. You have to upgrade to play. With a console, you are set for minimum 5 years easy.
That's also where consoles fail. As soon as that gen ends, your console becomes a paperweight. With PC there are slow transitions into 'next gen', not a sudden wall that you have to climb over.
umm no thats where consoles fail. the pc user has the option of playing at the same res as the console.. same fps etc. however should the pc user chose for a lil extra money they may play the way its ment to be played. so pc is versatile. and once the upgrade is done you are good to go for a further few more years. mean while games bought at cheaper prices more then make up for money spent on the little upgrades. id rather play in full hd then on sub hd and stuttering frame rates, thats what happens to consoles on most of the multiplat games.
Crysis is NOT just eye candy. It's a fantastic game.
Just finished Warhead about 30 minutes ago. Man that game is awesome. Definitely looking forward to part 2.
hey kraze did you try the original crysis? warhead your just a character from crysis... the original though.. thats the epic. That last boss makes u crap yourself in the original.
Yeah I finished the first one earlier this year. It was amazing and that part where you're inside that mountain/alien hive thing was just stunning.
Why don't ya knock it off with them negative vibes! see how beautiful it is out here, why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change...so FarCry2 was gimped too? no way Crysis2 will be beautiful and Epic...i trust the developers of Crytek to deliver a milestone in FPS... and all PC nerds knock it off with them comparisons of ridiculous high resolutions to make your PC sound superior...HDTV aren't even capable of displaying such resolutions 720p is more than enough(at least than most of us need)
Considering the power of the Xbox 360 and PS3 compared to PC's of today how can you say that Crysis 2 will be gimped? They are only going to utilise the power available in the 2 consoles and considering what I have seen of Crysis 2 its mindblowingly awesome and is in a league of its own in visuals compared to any game on the 360 and PS3! For console gamers this game will redefine what visuals are all about and I hope that developers will use the CryEngine 3 instead of the crap Unreal 3 engine. The other issue is PC gamers are always upgrading are always throwing money on technology that is obsolete as soon as it is out more fool them in my opinion I know I used to be one of them. Considering the price of an Xbox 360 and PS3 you cannot buy a PC that will run as well as those 2 for the price the consoles cost. Console gaming has caught up to PC quite a bit and next gen we will see something even more incredible. With developers being able to work on never changing specs of the 360 and PS3 they are always able to get more out of it unlike PC's which are always changing always updating etc.