US Bayonetta demo shows minor improvements

Nick @ PS3Center writes:

Earlier this week, rumors hit that Sega had enlisted the help of Sony to get the game up to snuff. I contacted both Sega and Sony but couldn't come up with anything conclusive. Nonetheless, it looks like the rumors may have some truth to them, given credence by a Japanese tech analysis.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

Wow, instead of running below 30fps most of times, now it runs at constant 30. That's not minor but a microscopic improvement. One of the selling point of the game it's that it runs at 60fps and the PS3 version struggles to keep at constant 30... Man this piss me off. >=(

[Rikitatsu]

even though its not as good as the 360 version, it ran totally fine and it did not hinder the gameplay at all, the media has overblown these issues again.

[Rikitatsu]

US and JPN demo have better framerate than the EU demo for some unknown reason, I tried both and I can tell you for sure that the framerate in the EU demo is a LOT worse than the other regions. Dunno why...

[gauntletpython]

Not even the 360 version runs at 60 FPS, I think Eurogamer/Digital Foundary said it ran at 45 fps on average. So, from 30 -> 35, it shows some improvement at least.

[SixTwoTwo]

Its being made to seem that the PS3 version is unplayable which is pretty ****ing ridiculous. The game is awesome and a definite purchase for me.

[raztad]

Unless the demo is not a faithful representation of what to expect from the final game I would say the PS3 version is quite playable, so if are looking forward to this game and happen to own only PS3, or just enjoy this kind of game on your PS3 go ahead and get it.

[jack_burt0n]

Rikitatsu spks truth bubs 2 u

[MEsoJD]

$60.

Wait for the price drop if you have to get it.

[Redempteur]

i'm sorry but what's wrong with constant 30 fps and a fun game ?

JUST CURIOUS

[SaiyanFury]

I have both the Japanese and American demos, and while it appears the US demo is a bit smoother, neither is unplayable. The Japanese demo might have a bit of a reduction on framerate, but it's still extremely playable. I've been saying this for a while now. But good on SEGA for seeking help in streamlining the game for their PS3 version. I'll be getting it on the PS3 simply because I'm more familiar with the controller.

[andron]

30 fps should be a minimum for an action game, and any improvement is welcome. Still since the game was designed on the 360 it's probably too late too make major changes to the PS3 port.

Still not as good as the 360 version, even though the 360 version has some minor framerate drops to according to the Digital Foundry blog too. But that's not as impactful since it drops from 60 fps to 45-50 in some hectic scenes...

[peeps]

after playing the 2 demo's heres my thoughts. The game is awsome and should deffo satisfy DMC fans. before playing the demo i wasn't fussed about this game at all but now can't wait to get it.

in terms of which version. If you have the choice, 360 all the way with this game however if you only have a ps3, thats not to say you shouldn't pick up the ps3 version since it still runs well, just the 360 version does run noticably better.

kinda annoying for me cus obv i do own both systems, but i actually prefer trophies, so in the majority of cases i will buy the ps3 multiplat, even if the 360 version is slightly better in comparisons. In this case however i'm gonna have to go with the 360. like i say though, it's certainly playable on the ps3 and i mean ppl can play the demo themselves and make up their own mind

[slave2Dcontroller]

played the US demo last night and turned it off after 4 minutes. Its garbage. I would really like to see this game perform well on the PS3 but thats just not going to happen since it wasnt created with the PS3 in mind.

Frame rate still hiccups, frequent screen tearing, and horrific textures makes it impossible to support this crap port. I'll get it for my wackbox360 since this and Splinter Cell;SC will be the only action it sees in 2010 before I box it back up. My Xbox360- It barely does anything.

[raztad]

Yeah the port is pretty poor, but still playable. The lack of commitment from the devels of this game turns me off on it as well.

To get it for your xbox is for sure the best idea.

[slave2Dcontroller]

Yeah. I will just wait for the price to drop first. Not really in a rush to get it with GOW3 right around the corner.

[wpggamer]

It's prize not price you idiot.

And it's not just Edge that gives it perfect 10's.

But in true fanboy fashion, anything that isn't better on the PS3 is automatically the developers fault, because you guys are all programmers and know how to optimize for teh cell. Or the game is garbage, it must be, I mean it's better on the xbox. So of course.

I'm gonna buy two copies just to piss off the fanboys. lol

[mastiffchild]

I don't see anything that made the Japanese PS3demo that bad, tech wise, to be frank, and I had more issues wioth it being a little too similar to Kamiya's DMC blueprint and while that's no bad thing in itself it does seem a little lazy. All I feel he's done is add a little sex and a little more crazy so, to me, the perfect scores are a little mystifying but we all have different tastes and demands.

Whatever, the only real issue I've found is the up and down framerate and if Sega/Sony are smoothing that out I struggle to see anything worthy of changing you from buying the game for whichever platform you usually would. It's not as if the screen tearing is that bad on either version(though present on both at rare occasions)and I rhinjk it's been blown way out of proportion. Sega haven't done a terrible job at all and all it lacks is the same FPS to me nd if that's now stabler I can't fnd a major issue anywhere-this isn't a port of the same degree of crap as The Orange Box was, now is it? THAT was the last game that forced me away from buyin a multi for the PS3(controller preference for me as I really don't like the 360 pads bulky shape, wonky stick placement or being seemingly designed for right handed gamers with bear size mitts!)and, though I personally feel Bayonetta's fooled a lot of people into thinking it's amazing when it's just a variation on DMC it's still going to be a fun game and definite rent-at least-and if it's better than expected a purchase in the future for me.

The only accusations I would cnsider about the game wopuld be Kamiya not straying very far from what he's done before and Platinum not designing for both platforms as it's never ideal if the creator of the game doesn't make the ports too-that's where the laziness is and without them saying they hadn't the tiome/money/team to make it for the PS3 we're left to guess whether they ever wanted it to be a multi-maybe we'd be seeiong a truly amazing 360 exclysive had they not had to worry about a port they weren't even making and just properly optimised it on all levels for the 360. A little explanation would go a long way I feel but, that said, I honestly don't gind the issues some people have reported with the Japanese demo-harfly anything to moan about and certainly seeing as Sefa at least bothered I fail to get why they're in any wrong here. They only tried to bring the game to PS3 when noone else was, it isn't their game and they look to be getting some help now-what is their crime here?

Anyway, I don't see anything game breaking and don't think the fuss is proportional to the actual faults at all. If it's up your street buy whichever version you wouldnormally once you check out the demo to see if you're one of those who sees more of the faults as I'm starting to think I must just not be seeing stuff here-and as I wasn't blown away like Id imagined by the game itself I doubt I'd be trying to be over fair on the port anyway! As ever, when there's issues like this, it's a question of whether they're big enough to overcopme your usual controller or platform preference which is completely personal I suppose but I don't see the massive issues being reported. I really don't.

[King Hippo]

I mean they should've fixed the generic button mashing gameplay and fixed the character so it doesn't look so much like a shemale. I thought it would be like DMC1 (or at least a little bit) but it was just terrible. The game is really bland (good thing there are better games like God of War 3 coming out to fill the void).

[Rikitatsu]

Watch this and say it again with a straight face
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

it's obvious the crappy port has skewed your perception of the title. if it had been the other way around you'd be thinking differently and be singing a different tune.

what exactly is so male about her, to me she's almost like Gloria from DMC4. (with the long legs and all) http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[ultimolu]

So nobody can have an opinion about games? So the reason why he thinks it's a crappy hack and slash is because of the "superior 360 version"?

If he thinks it's crap, then that's his opinion. Who are you to tell a person what they should like from what they shouldn't like? Gamers can't like the games they want to like without people jumping down their throats.

Keep harping about multiplatforms. That's all 360 fans such as yourself love to brag about instead of actual exclusives.

The PS3 version isn't unplayable. I'm still getting the game.

[Redempteur]

"now tell why Star Ocean is viewed so highly, i mean it was on 360 first right? "
because disc swapping is gone ?
dual voices ?
anime or cg character face ? ( choice again )
new lock system ? ( improved battle )
New events ?

i know you're a troll but it's just too easy to destroy your pathetic and ridiculous attempt that your answer was .

just like tales of vesperia ...improved on almost every aspect ...
Just like ninja gaiden sigma 2 ...

Do you want me to continue ?

FACT: bayonneta PS3 condition has nothing to do with the PS3 itself and it's so unnatural that they are trying to fix it ...
And again , since when 38/40 is a bad score for a game ..??? The ps3 version is far from being unplayable ... i know that because i finished th demo at least 5 times ...

PS: if you like to read the open zone that much , you should try to write in that part of the comments too ...

[peeps]

the cool thing about bayonetta is like dmc, you can play it as a button masher if you like, but take a step back and you realise that the combot is v v deep and u can put a lot of work into mastering the combos (as demonstrated in the video Rikitatsu posted)

if u wanna go for those perfects and high combo's u'll need to get good at the long list of moves and combos available

and i agree with Redempteur. The fact is that this game was built for the 360 and they screwed up porting to the ps3, basically cus of how they game uses the architecture of the 360 and how the ps3's is so different. So yes Bayonetta is better on 360, but if you're a ps3 only owner theres no reason why you shouldn't pick this game up if you like it's style

[Nikuma]

"3.1 - Button Mashing Gameplay?
Watch this and say it again with a straight face
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This just owned everyone who says the game is just a button masher. Bubs to you sir.

Most people are ignorant to the fact that this game has the option "Easy Automatic" and that essentially makes it a easy button masher. This is like EZmode for any noob that was to play the game without getting owned hard. Lots of hardcore games are doing this now to attract casuals as well.

[Bungie]

cool

good to know that $ony cares

[CernaML]

Ah ha. Being not as annoying as all the other 360 fanboys just to rank up bubbles was just a diabolical plan of yours! Now that you have much more than 2 like most of them, you decide to spread your jackassery!

Brilliant!

[Bungie]

lol

be gamers

not fanboys

[CernaML]

Nice edit.

[cmacdonald]

I hope it flops on the ps3. Lazy developers need to be punished in the pocketbook.

[CernaML]

It already sold more on the PS3 in Japan. But sure, let it flop so they don't have the incentive to make more games on the PS3.

[raztad]

Fully agree with cmacdonal and fully disagree with cernaML.

Sega and Platinum, Platinum the most, must understand sub standard ports dont make the cut anymore. PS3 owners are not starved for games. I doubt Sega can afford no to make games for the PS3.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Honestly, it's a great port!

The graphics suffered very little...and I mean VERY little.

It's a fantastic port!

[APOFISBORICUA]

But anyone thinks that at least in the PS3 this game is going to sell a lot? NO!!. Thats because PS3 owners like me will be waiting for a better game that is based in GREEK Mithology. The game will sold good on the 360 because thats the only thing they can play. The game will be hyped to death as the best Hack and Slash only by 360 FANBOYS and their fanboys sites like EDGE.

Im a big DMC fan and if the DEMO of BAYONETTA is representative of the final game I would say that it will be a good game but not the game 360 fanboys are hyping. This game is cheesy and its competition is towards DMC. The background in the demo is boring and the Bayonetta character really look weird. Anyway I believe that NARIKO is a better female charcter. I will be playing it on the 360...pirated thats what its worth.

PEACE AND GAMING!!!!

[bigrudowsky]

I dont think they were lazy just inexperienced thats why they are trying to correct it

[raztad]

@bigru

Platinum pulled a Valve. Those guys didnt even try. They handed out the codebase (made from the ground up for the xbox) to Sega. I commend Sega for trying. I know game is playable because I tried the demo, but still not up to par specially framerate and screen-tearing.

@Leon

I think you are so excited about this game that have no problems overlooking details. Thankfully those details dont break the game so it's perfectly fine.

[CrippleH]

Sega is trying but not Platinum. It's not even Sega's work it's somebody elses. It's not Sega that's lazy, it's platinum brushing off the PS3 version to somebody else.

Kojima has it right, Japan is falling behind in the gaming industry in quality. This game looks like it can be a Xbox 1 game.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It's a great port.

It's a great game.

What are you guys smoking?

[Edge1105]

aside from the actual character of bayonette, i liked the game. I just really really hate her and the way she looks. its such a tiny head on a linebackers body.

[rob6021]

Great Game?

I didn't think so. This thing is average. I'm just not into that DMC type game. The story/storytelling feels way too much like the story in Capcom's recent games(crap).

[peeps]

after playing both versions i can safely say that no it isn't a great port at all HOWEVER it is still worth playing either version cus it is a good game

[ps34ever]

Microsoft losers

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

The only thing that I felt was bad was the in game cut scene. That had a terrible frame rate. Hurt to look at that.

Other than that, don't see anything wrong with the game.

[The_Zeitgeist]

I saw plenty of screen tear.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Zeit

Might be because of my set up. I'm running an HD22inch Magnavox.

So perhaps because of the size of my TV, I don't notice subtle screen tearing and the such.

[THE MAX SPEED 21]

this game is Action Packed!!!!! I like it. I dont see why some people are mad at it. Only reason I found is that since the PS3 version is bad and some Review blogs are giving it a Perfect score and some are claiming it could be better than Gow3 that makes them mad because its not Sony exclusive.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I'm with you. It's a fantastically fun game. Seriously. God of War III may have the story, but...

...Bayonetta makes God of War, Ninja Gaiden, and Devil May Cry look like a joke.

This is coming from possibly the world's biggest Devil May Cry fan too.

Kamiya has done it again!

[TheBand1t]

Still don't much care for the camera. It's the reason I passed on Ninja Gaiden as well.

[The_Zeitgeist]

I have been skeptical for some time now about this game. It seemed like a rip off of Devil May Cry and I was right. The characters voices sound cheesy, the graphics look meh. Just a disappointment in my opinion.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Pretty sure you can't rip off your own game...

: )

EDIT: Thank you, Bandit.

Devil May Cry and Devil May Cry 3 are still my favorite action games of all-time.

God of War 1 & 2 are cool...but...they lack a little something called "fun".

[TheBand1t]

The guy who made DMC 1 and DMC 3 made Bayonetta, so I assume it has gameplay elements of the DMC series.

You wanna talk about Ripoffs, look at Dante's Inferno VS God of War 3.

Edit: Um, no. God of War does not lack fun. :/

[The_Zeitgeist]

@ LeonSKennedy4Life

You would think they would want to try some new things. The gameplay elements of the game felt exactly the same as Devil May Cry. That is not evolving and it does not impress anymore. At least in my opinion anyways.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You mean like the deepest combo system ever seen in an action game?

I have a feeling you only played the demo once.

Can you get through it without getting hit? Can you dance circles around the enemies?

If not...you aren't trying hard enough.

This game is like a cutscene that you have full control over. If you learn the combos...you won't be disappointed.

[lordkemp007]

Bungie

So you've changed your mind.

Does the new one work any better?

Bungie whatever anyone says to you goes in one ear and out the other because nothing is blocking traffic.

[SpinalRemains138]

All these articles are complete nonsense when it comes to this type of thing. Ive been hearing for weeks how the ps3 version is awful blah blah blah. I DL it today and xould not find 1 fault with the gameplay. It runs perfectly fine.

[SpinalRemains138]

Also, I hear lots of camera complaints. I also find these to be unfounded. Before you play the game you have to set up the options menu. There are 6 camera settings there to set it up however you want. Even a sensitivity one to set the speed at which you can move it around. It seems everything bad I have read about this game was all completely false. The only way the 360 version could be better than the PS3 version would be if it were cheaper. The ganeplay is exactly the same.

[DonCorneo]

for xbots who wank off a videogame

this + DOA volleyball are the only way for xbots to see naked women

DEMO was even good. crappy DMC 4 is way better

LMAO!!1!

[Karooo]

ps3 demo was pretty good for me played 3 times.

[CryWolf]

Bayonetta demo is a good game but I think ILL stick with the Devil May Cry series.

[CryWolf]

Actually Bumpmapping xbots failure rates are around 84% or was it 89% now.

[Katana Yamato]

I've had the Japanese demo since it first came out in October. And i downloaded the US demo yesterday...THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL! The only difference is that the US demo is bigger for sum demented reason and now the Option menu is in English. There is a bit less screen tearing in sum areas, but other then that it still has the same problems. This game will no be on par with the Xbox 360 version and i doubt it will since the game is gonna release soon. Since i only own a PS3 i'll get it. But it sucks knowing that there's a technically superior version out there and i can't get to play it.

BTW did anyone know that Gamestop is no longer offering the Bayonetta Posters when you Pre-order. So not only do we not get a Collector's Edition unlike Australia and Europe...but we get no pre-order bonus or Collector/Limited Edition. It would be great if the Special Edition for the US version was a PS3 version that ran like the Xbox 360 version...but i guess not :(

[sugatmahanti]

was it just me...i didnt notice any slowdowns..in ps3 version.havfent chked the 360 version..so cant comment on that....the game is really dmc on steroids...really good but i dont think it deserves a 10 atleast not based on the demo

[keysy420]

remeber in fatmistu the scoreing difference was like a point

[SDF Repellent]

It will be a great game.

[OmegaSlayer]

Seriously I don't understand all the hate.
The game is still wonderful on PS3 too, and again, for the thousandth time, the retail game runs better than the demo.
AMEN.

[SnukaTheMan]

But make the necessary fixes on the final product....just wow.

[supraman21]

That demo was the dumbest thing I have ever played in my life. You guys that complain about to many FPS's and how they are all the same are ritards. All RPG's and games like DMC are all the same. I saw no difference in this game and the PSP demo of GOW. I was laughing at the story of this game. Your walking around with some be-otch in a ficked up outfit with guns on her boots. Hahahaha what a looser game

[peeps]

*cough* loser *cough*

[EpsilonTeam]

I'll get it for my modded crapbox as well but i'm not giving them any money. I only pay for PS3 games.

[SnukaTheMan]

And they came up with minor improvements....I played the demo and I thought this game was different from devil may cry. Such a pity because this game is not bad at all.

[devilhunterx]

I am going to get the PS3 version later, even though Bayonetta looks a bit like Sarah Palin (barf!)

[The_Zeitgeist]

ROFL!!! THAT IS SO TRUE MAN. GOOD ONE!!!

[TwistedMetal]

why are we even talking about such a crappy game with a shemale that does cartwheels, has jpop music, has generic and uninspired enemies and graphics. its a bad dmc rip off yet you all are going to purchase this over dante inferno, the god of war 3 knock off? Theres just way to many better games out there and im suprised at anyone showing intrest in this game at all as it looks rediculos. lot of you gonna be skipping out on bioshock 2, dante inferno, red dead redemtioon, gt5, Gow3, Heavy rain, yakuza3, splinter cell, mass effect2, wkc for this piece of junk? WOWWWWW you might as well get ninja blade to while you are at it lol

[yoghurt]

I played the demo yesterday - I don't get what all the hype is about - I have played the God of war demo man times and this doesn't even come close to that - maybe i'm missing something?

[Swiftfox]

To me it just has a different energy to it than God of War, that's all.

In God of War, its a gameplay experience full of passion. The game is meant to be played with that sense of pure energy and power behind it. Everything you do is powerful, every move, every hit, every action an act of rage against your enemies who are no where near your equal.

Bayonetta is just different. Gone is the brute strength and in comes finesse, calculated...cold even. Instead of hacking away at many enemies at a time you now switch your focus to just one at a time. The scope is smaller, it's more intimate in it's combat and environment.

Bayonetta also doesn't have the benefit of being an established francis and many look to cruelly at it waiting for it to prove itself.

You may just prefer God of War to anything else, it's a personal thing. You just have to ask yourself what is different between the two that you think is appealing to you the most. Happy gaming.

[Swiftfox]

I'm still open to this game. I don't know, to me, it has a certain...something.

It's just got something about it's gameplay that is compulsive, satisfying (though the difficulty could be tweaked up some) about it. It makes a nice little package. Though I am still put off by the character of Bayonetta as she seems like she has the same personality as Dante from Devil May Cry, but that could change as the story unfolds.

Every time I play the demo I grow more an more interested and it will be a nice little treat for January.

[Bazookajoe_83]

But thats my oppinion.

[Neurotoxin]

If Sony improve it for the western market the Japanese will be pissed.

[TengkuAmir10]

XBOX SUCK WAY TOO MUCH....

[DigitalAnalog]

Got the demo and Bayonetta really is quite the looker. I want more but damn I just hate it when the 360 gets the more definitive version. Let's see what happens when the retail comes out. If it's positive I may get it.

-End statement

[The_Zeitgeist]

I'll just wait for the day when PS4 comes out and buy this game when its 5 bucks in a bargin bin just to round out my collection.