Final data in - PS3 sold 550,000 last week

PS3 slim boosts PS3 hardware 400% worldwide as Guitar Hero is down 37% year on year in the weekly charts for the 30th August - 5th September 2009

[GWAVE]

Waaaa? Why is VGChartz being used for news?

Well, anyway...

"But but but but the Slim and a price drop won't matter for Sony"

[dolan]

I thought vgchartz was banned from this site?

How can a site that puts out fake sales numbers not be banned?

[Time Lord]

I said it when they posted low PS3 numbers and I'll say it again now

VGcharts 'A fair proportion of the 550,000 PS3 buyers this week will be existing PS3 owners (especially in Japan) wanting to upgrade to the new machine, maybe 30-40% (as a rough guess), but the remainder will be new buyers'

HOW THE F WOULD THEY KNOW THAT?

[Lifendz]

It's still VGchartz. I'll wait for a more reliable source.

[Mr_Bun]

I'm all for PS3 selling well, but when did VGChartz get accurate data....especially when they throw up numbers regarding who specifically traded in old ones for new ones "maybe 30-40% (as a rough guess)"...I'd say VERY rough.

What is more reliable is the fact that VG's numbers are always low when GUESSING PS3 sales

[raztad]

Vgchartz numbers are just rough estimates, probably they are playing safe providing a conservative number. I expect more than 600K slim sold. Just Japan is contributing with 150+K.

[gaffyh]

@1 - I agree, now we wait for that guy who always defends VGC based on old data.

[Poopface the 2nd]

I think it is a decent indicator tho, and it looks like the price drop and the slim have really increased PS3 sales.

Doesnt surprise me as I got one even though I wasnt planing on it. now people are more likely to just decide to buy one on impulse now that its cheaper.

I also prefer the smaller version. I dont mind the features they took out since the 60gb(although BC would be nice) as I got what I wanted them to focus on since the beginning: A ps3 that plays blu-ray movies.

[bmw69]

Posted for about the 4th time this week:

Seriously, you guys need to do some research before posting this stuff. VGChartz numbers have been pretty much spot on with NPD for the last 6 months now - why don't you actually look the figures up and see?

Let's do it for you:
VGChartz July preview - http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...
NPD July data - http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

DS:
VGC - 537,000
NPD - 538,900

Wii:
VGC - 309,000
NPD - 252,500

PS3:
VGC - 128,000
NPD - 121,800

Xbox360:
VGC - 198,000
NPD - 202,900

PSP:
VGC - 129,000
NPD - 122,800

Yeah I see what you mean - no correlation between the two at all. In fact apart from the 50,000 difference on Wii (and many in the industry believe that NPD undertracked Wii for July) the numbers correlate perfectly.

And you can see the same, if not better, in previous months:

VGChartz June preview - http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...
NPD June data - http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Again i'll list these ones out:
NPD / VGC
DS - 766k / 744k
Wii - 362k / 366k
PS3 - 165k / 164k
360 - 241k / 248k
PSP - 164k / 143k

Obviously made up and "fake" from VGC once again.

Also if you look, the software lines up almost perfectly as well.

Seriously, this misconception that VGChartz is a joke has to stop. They provide solid industry estimates for free that nearly always line up well with official data that is released.

[Perkel]

@ bmw69

again somebody must tell you that
vg fix their numbers after npd media create sales are up....

ehh

also VGChartz are real Speculation based on nothing.

Watch media create sales watch npd sales this month

[bmw69]

You need to learn to read! The VGChartz projections are made BEFORE NPD comes out, just like the one they did this month. Then the NPD data comes out and matches up almost perfectly.

Then Fanboys on N4g claim that the site makes the data up because it doesn't show them what they want to see.

[n4gno]

You are probably not a gamer poopface, but do you know you can play with it ? and play the better console's games this generation ?

just information.

[ATY]

Vgcharzt goes back and 'fixes' their fake sales numbers when the real numbers come out.

Vgchartz is a site every gamer from no matter what console should be disgusted with.

The last thing gaming needs is yet another site spreading lies and fake information.

[ATY]

"Vgchartz numbers are just rough estimates"

I don't want to flame you, but can we stop this sh*t.

They are not 'estimates', they are fake. End of story.

Fake. F A K E

There is no source for tracking sales data globally. Let alone on a weekly basis.

Are you guys so naive to think some kid running a website is get week retail tracking information from every country in Europe, South America, the Middle East, Asia, in addition to the US?

Honestly, do you?

This garbage should have been banned a long time ago. Even bringing up fake vgchartz numbers on most messageboards I frequent is something that will get you banded.

[bmw69]

Ok, why not compare their data to NPD this month - here is the preview:

http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...

DS - 468k
Wii - 293k
360 - 214k
PS3 - 157k
PSP - 133k

Also note that VGChartz have already said they think NPD will be higher on PS3 - maybe over 200,000 due to the leaked PS3 slims in the last week of August and the difficulty of tracking it accurately as it was only available at some retailers.

Check back when NPD is out in 30 mins and see how close they are...

[ATY]

bmw69

Go away. Go back to your pathetic little site and its fake sales numbers.

[percephone]

Data care of NPD Group for August 2009

PlayStation 2 105.9K
PlayStation 3 210.0K
PSP 140.3K
Xbox 360 215.4K
Wii 277.4K
Nintendo DS 552.9K

The only one that is close is the 360 number

Edit: Disagree, come on bmw69 admit that you were wrong

[Oner]

Wow BMW you are SOOO misinformed. VGChartz has been PROVEN to ESTIMATE that system "A" sold "X" amount for date "Y" through date "Z" then when NPD comes out to confirm the ACTUAL sales they go back at a later date and re-adjust their numbers to make it seem as if they where "accurate" when you go back to compare sold #'s...just as you are doing.

[Poopface the 2nd]

You cant even comprehend what Im saying. I said, " A ps3 that plays blu-ray movies." As in playing PS3 GAMES and movies. You got all upset because you think I just want a ps3 for blu ray. I havent even watched one blu ray yet. I just dont care about all the pc like features on the ps3 as I have a computer already. I dont need a card reader, browser, other operating systems or 4 usb ports. I just want a system for ps3 games and blu ray movies. The only feature that I would have liked them to keep since the 60Gb that arnt in the slim is BC, but I didnt buy a ps3 to play ps2 games.

Im most likely more of a gamer than you, as I dont care what system I play games on. I dont care which one is perceived to be better by anyone as I am not committed to one or the other. Look at my profile If you wanna see all the game systems that I have owned, and I got them all for playing games.

[bmw69]

"DS - 468k
Wii - 293k
360 - 214k
PS3 - 157k
PSP - 133k

Also note that VGChartz have already said they think NPD will be higher on PS3 - maybe over 200,000 due to the leaked PS3 slims in the last week of August and the difficulty of tracking it accurately as it was only available at some retailers."

Actual NPD:

PlayStation 2 105.9K
PlayStation 3 210.0K
PSP 140.3K
Xbox 360 215.4K
Wii 277.4K
Nintendo DS 552.9K

PS2 - spot on
PSP - spot on
Wii - spot on (and higher than all analysts)
360 - spot on
DS - low
PS3 - low (but ~200 like I said and like VGC had said earlier).

Looks pretty damn good to me - for the third month in a row.

Compare to the other predictions:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Pachter EEDAR NeoGAF
NDS 490,000 490,000 492,000
WII 240,000 235,000 250,000
360 205,000 190,000 207,000
PS3 160,000 140,000 194,000
PSP 130,000 110,000 121,000
PS2 100,000 95,000 99,000

So VGChartz was closer than Pachter and EEDAR (two professional firms) and better than GAF (an average of about 100 industry followers and insiders) on everything but DS and PS3.

Not bad for a fake site making guesses.

Also remember that VGChartz put their data out BEFORE Pachter, EEDAR or GAF - so they can (and do) all look at VGC data for reference when making their predictions for the month.

[DaTruth]

The numbers are in! All I see here is VGChartz! Where are they in exactly; Some dudes imagination! The numbers aren't in till a legitimate source says they're in!

[Sarcasm]

You can see he's a 360 fanboy when he starts talking about the speculative 30-40% of PS3 Slim sales are current PS3 owners. Did anybody stop to think that the PS3 phat's were also selling too? Not all of the sales are PS3 slim's. And I cant Imagine 200,000 PS3 owners rushing to buy the Slim especially seeing as how anyone who has a 60gb will bash and bash the Slim trying to make it look like an inferior product.

"So yes, the 30-40% is pure speculation "
FAIL.

[Sarcasm]

bmw69, you're hellbent on protecting VGchartz aren't you?

If you really want to defend it so bad, then tell us. How does VGchartz collect their numbers WORLDWIDE? How do they get numbers from the smaller countries in Europe? How do they get the numbers from Japan? How do they get numbers at all? As far as I know, NPD and even media crate collects their numbers from retailers. There's no such mention of this "VGchartz" collecting numbers from retailers.

[TheReaper42]

don't give that POS site your clicks. VG = full of fail

[Bucky Sligo]

Listen guys, let's all get rational for a second here. It's obvious from bmw's post that VGChartz actualy post more or less accurate numbers. What is there to argue? The proof is right in front of our eyes.

Can any of you post something that contradict the VGChartz numbers? How do you guys know it's fake?

[Oner]

@ above ~ As the saying goes "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"...Just because they got it "right" this time does not mean they are accurate every/all the time. As I said they adjust their "numbers" at a later date to reflect the correct numbers in an effort to SEEM like they where right in the past but were not.

Read this in FULL (not just pieces) while paying close attention to "Where's the Beef" and the "conclusion"

http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

And additionally

http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

http://www.psu.com/forums/s...

[imtiyaz6]

All I can say is the good ol' sony dominance days are finally back

[GameGambits]

It's over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoapShoes]

Dude get over it... First off all VGChartz does is guess and I don't call being a few thousand off close... Anyone can guess around a few thousand, damn! All you have to do is look at previous months data to come up with a close estimate of next months unless there is a huge shift in demand, which there was. Funny how VGChartz did not come even close on their estimate for PS3 on August, they just said they expected NPD to be higher on the PS3. WELL NO CRAP! All they are doing is saying, "we don't know what the PS3 numbers will be but lets guess low and say we expect them to be higher in case they are higher". If they can't estimate more than the status quo, then why should we trust them?

bmw69, no professional website does guessing. That just is not how things work. These people did not go to college, they are not even close to being analysts. The site is fail and how the hell can you even defend them with their August PS3 estimate and a blanket statement?

[slayorofgods]

We all know that VGchartz will never show completely accurate numbers and because of the speed they report numbers (compared to NPD) this is not even possible.

VGchartz works the same as exit polls do in an election. These polls give us an early indication of who won the race between the 360, PS3, and wii with a (ROUGH) estimation by what percent. This is a very useful tool to resellers who want an early advantage before the concrete data (NPD) is released.

As far of the trend on this site to hate VGchartz and the people that look at its data; get over yourselves.

[MURKERR]

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[kws1065]

then I can safely guess.

[Panthers]

From US sales only? No you cant.

[kornbeaner]

Why is it that NPD is all that matters? from my understanding the numbers they gather do not include wal-mart. How are those any more accurate then those by VGcharts? If you gather numbers but do not have the sales number for arguably the biggest store franchise in the U.S. how can those be called accurate? just like VG, NPD is an estimated guess. The only time we get pretty accurate numbers are during E3, Leipzig and TGS when the big 3 talk sales figures.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

the NPD to look at is the september NPD, not august. August NPD is going to arrive in a few days from now, while September NPD will be shown in October.

[Poopface the 2nd]

estimates the wallmart sales and adds them to their other concrete numbers. The NPD comes out today I think, and it will include some of the pricecut and slim sales considering I got my slim on august 29, and I know they were selling them before sept. 1st.

I think that sept will be a huge month for sony, but August should also have a small boost since the pricecut and slim were sold at the end of AUG.

you must be on crack if you think wallmart is where many people go to get ps3s.

The NPD is very accurate for US sales.

[kornbeaner]

How I'm I on crack for thinking walmart might play bigger role. Wal-mart might not be used for a majority of game sales in big cities like New York, L.A., Chicago and such but there is a big part of the country where Wal-mart is where it's at. Even in some places in California Frenso and Modesto you might not see a best buys or Gamestop around but the one thing that is near most cities is a wal-mart. The point I was trying to make is just like VG charts uses estimates to conclude a certain sales number NPD does the same.

It doesn't really matter what numbers you guess and plug in the end thats all Vg charts and NPD are. Guesses. Until there is a firm that can gather sales numbers from 98% of all major and sub-major outlets all you will ever get is estimates and guess. VGcharts and NPD provide you and all other people with the same basic formula. Gather what we know, estimate what we don't and then fix those number when we know we are wrong. Both NPD and VGcharts are off on sales numbers by nice chunk. The only reason why VG gets a bad rep is because they run a free always open site. So anybody can just go to the website and see real-time correction. With NPD there is a fee so the chances of catching real-time fixes are not as likely. If VG's website was runned like NPD there wouldn't be such a big uproar about their numbers cause we'd only see them 1 once a month and never see corrections made.

[kws1065]

I know how many slim PS3 has sold in UK(40k), JP(150k) and FR(37k). And I know that US starts selling Slim since August 24, which means major sales of NPD August sale comes from Slim version. From that, I can estimate how many consoles would've sold in the first week of September in US (Second week of Slim version for US). Then I can add up the rest of the world such as AU, ESP, and etc, which is a safe guess.

At least safer than VG.
Edit: My bad, I mean "more safe"

[DaTruth]

Please don't insult NPD by throwing them in with VGChartz! At least NPD calls somewhere at sometime! They're sales reports are actually bought by big companies; I doubt they would pay for some guy in his mom's basement's guesses!

And they don't throw in flamebait opinions for good measure!

[ghostface]

I like how he said 30-40% are previsous ps3 owner who traded there 80gig for the slim model. I'm not saying there's not people not trading there fat for a slim, but where are he getting his numbers from?

[Parapraxis]

His A$$, clearly.

[beardpapa]

It could be people that recently got the model only to want to exchange it for the Slim. Remember there was a Bestbuy article about this, and to avoid having to take in a return, they instead offered a free game deal.

So that number, 30-40%. How do we know it applies to the previous total of PS3 userbase, or if it applies to recent owners within the past few weeks?

[DaTruth]

Does anybody who bought a Slim, remember taking the VGChartz poll at every retail store in the whole world, that asks if you previously owned a PS3 Phat?

[shocky16]

That is all.

[SupaPlaya]

I thought I read a comment from you on another VGChart article/sales news. I don't remember you laughing at that number. Then I looked:

"1 - Now these are sales numbers not any PS3 exclusive could get.
Not even GT5, not a chance to beat the MASSIVE sales monster that is Halo 3. "

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[The Wood]

owned. what a hypocrite

vg has always been crud but it seems some WILL pick and chose where n when they see fit wont they 'shocky' ¬_¬.

ive not seen and ownage like that ALL year +1 SupaPlaya

from now on any ounce of credibility you had left is gone....so gone...lol

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

lol @ below...more like a sledge hammer to the face

[Boody-Bandit]

SupaPlaya with a uppercut to the chin.
Shocky is out cold!

[saint_john_paul_ii]

HADOUKEN!!!!!!!!1

[Jsynn7]

Wow....just wow. Totally owned. You should have all your bubbles taken for that.

[DaTruth]

Time to change your account!

[quarkist]

It's a good start. Good for the game industry, and it will raise the competition which means better exclusives...

[DarkSniper]

These numbers are definitely proven as fact. It's been widely assumed that each and every owner who has any piece of electronics has been waiting for the opportunity to accompany PLAYSTATION®3 in their homes. When you have a product that only does everything, it's very difficult to ignore it's presence and even more difficult to resist the temptation of owning one.

In the course of one month. PS3 has sold more units than Xbox 360 has this entire year. Microsoft will surely create some makeshift numbers and create more lies and spin to cover the fact that their system is on a rapid and sharp decline and will embark it's inevitable death.

$niper

[El Botto]

PS3 was good value for its money at 600.

At 300, its a STEAL.

PS3, it only does everything.

[The Killer]

september 1.2M
october 1.5M
november 2.3M
december 3.2M

ps3 will sell more than 360 and wii combined if they play their cards well, if not then they will just be the first this holiday season.

[dustgavin]

Yikes. I really see no way that 360 fans can spin this one. This is a MASSIVE pimp slap Sony just handed out.

[Shadow017]

Damn couldn't of said it any better myself nice job.

[PS3PCFTW]

well u took the words right out of my mouth.

let the ms antisony campaign begin, we all know it didnt work the first time....so this should be fun to watch.

360 reminds me of a beached whale. stuck n waiting to die

[ultimolu]

Aaaamen.

[commodore64]

lol @ all the 'gamers' playing sales...

[Anon1974]

You claim to be a gamer, but your posting history is littered with arguments about sales, focusing on one quarter and pretending that it's a trend that spans a year and simply making things up. Anyone who wants to can view your posting history and see it's true.

Not really fair to criticize other gamers, who simply have a passion for the industry, for discussing the same things.

[spongeboob]

Commodore thought that sales would remain exclusive to the 360 but now the PS3 got the sales with improved graphics and extra content.

Thanks bots for beta testing the sales for us PS3 supporters.

[commodore64]

I am wondering how come it is that you keep quoting my posting history, darkride66?

Is the rumour true that you are an obsessed nutjob stalking me, because i called you out once too often?

Time to get over it, dude.
Even the mods on n4g are able to observe that you simply haven't got anything useful left to say, except to stalk and damage control my posts!

on topic:
My comment about gamers playing sales, was a direct rebuttal to the months and months of ps3 fans making similar comments when the 360 was outselling the ps3.
It was a direct observation about the irony of ps3 fanboy's flip-flopping.

sound familiar, darkie?
It should,because you have been making similar comments, while now rejoicing in the spike of ps3 slim sales.

"Be a gamer, not a hater'

uh-oh.
Did i manage to call you out AGAIN?
Slow down, old boy.
Don't have a heart attack!

[Nitrowolf2]

But the sales should be up that high. I expect higher.

[ThePlaystationFour]

Anyone Agrees?

[Kratos_1986]

im gona miss the Xbots i already do :D :D

[Waldex]

even if they are low-class, sh!t brained, monkey-like retarded entities, they're still really funny when they are in delusional mode and start to praise Halo as if it is more important in videogame history than Mario

Sadly... they will be in the PSN now... that's the only thing i really regret about the price cut... you know? I dont want to play with them... but unfortunately i will have to... all of us will have...

[The Killer]

bots on PSN?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO

[Ilikegames76]

Who's going to beta test our games?

[JonnyBigBoss]

That's only 1-week. I expect a lot more as the AAA titles come out, particularly Gran Turismo 5 for EU and Final Fantasy 13 for Japan.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Maybe if they didn't oversaturate the market people wouldn't be getting burnt out! Way to go activision, now lets start working on CoD.

[ForROME]

Who runs this dam company anyways or site, they have been in accurate for yrs yet they still serve as news to people? Really!

Come on people! I was ready to check out the figures until I saw the source

[eagle21]

PS3 ftw!

[TheBand1t]

Meh, VGchartz.

[leeger]

Vgcrap

[mayberry]

rough estimate huh? well still impressive!

[Pizzagaki]

VGchartz said ps3 500k, and they where right.
Now they say the ps3 will decline big time the coming three weeks, and the 360 will increase steadily.

And they will be right about that too.

[dustgavin]

And then you will wake up from your dream and realize that PS3 sales will continue to increase.

[skatezero246]

lol your funny the ps3 will decrease slightly yes but I can't see the 360 outselling the ps3 for some time now and I bet I'll be right so when it happens be a man and admit you where wrong and If I'm wrong I'll own up to it although I don't think I'm wrong

[Ju]

If you read that again, and even if you would take into account, that their "magic" 30-40% of existing PS3 owners will drop off the chart, this will mean the sales will drop to roughly 60% of this week. I'll help you. That would still be 330K. The 360 would need to double its sales to reach that. I would rather think, the 360 will drop off fast(er) then the PS3. Way faster. This was an impulse buy for people waiting for a 360. But, as the Amazon hit list shows, this spike was very short lasting. I do not know, why people believe, the Elite cut will have any long term effect. It won't. The 360 was always the cheaper product.

[ultimolu]

Wait for it pizzachild, it won't come.

Even without VG Chartz, I wouldn't be surprised by the numbers at all. People were waiting for pricecuts so those sales will continue to increase.

Don't be sad, here's a tissue.

[Bluesey]

What's wrong with VGChartz? I'm pretty new around here and I don't see why you guys are bashing VGchartz, I've been using them to check hardware sales every now and then.

Is there a better site to check hardware sales? What's not reliable in VGChartz?

[Pizzagaki]

Cuz the 360 is outselling the ps3 globally on yearly base, and VGchartz confirms that, this makes sony fanboys so angy that they curse vgchartz for it.

However, when vgchartz comes with positive news for sony, then vgchartz is all of a sudden okay.

I learned only one thing from that.
Sony fans equals morons.

[Ju]

Quote: "Cuz the 360 is outselling the ps3 globally on yearly base, and VGchartz confirms that"

Hm, I would refer you to this link here: http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...

and then I would ask you to rethink your statement.

[Aloren]

Quote:Hm, I would refer you to this link here: http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...

and then I would ask you to rethink your statement.

Did you read what your link says ? Maybe you should have before asking him to rethink his statement...cause maybe you'd have noticed it's not yearly sales , but "year to date" sales, which is very different, since that leaves out holiday seasons, which is when most sales occur.

When you use their "hardware comparison table", it shows the 360 outsold the PS3 in 2007 and 08.

[Ju]

2007: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps...

2008: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps...

360 had a strong finish because of last years holiday sale and price drop.

2009: http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps...

PS3 is almost ahead w/o holiday sales. Expect PS3 to sell way better then 360 this holiday season (almost like a flip from last year - I speculate).

[Shnazzyone]

not too shabby for sony. 550,000 is quite the sizable worldwide number. Not sellout numbers by any means (at least not in japan) but certainly respectable. Meanwhile it seems guitar hero was annihlated by Beatles Rock Band... damn those FAB 5!!! They hurt the title that MADE plastic prop controllers respectable. I'm going to go back to playing world tour now.

[Unicron]

Well, that is for a WEEK, not the month. Which is pretty impressive. The real question is, will the system consistently sell better now? Or is this a once off?

[ReBurn]

That's a good question. With every other PS3 price cut there was a spike like this. It's to be expected. Then within a couple of weeks the sales were back to what they had previously been.

I guess we'll see if the current price is the real mass-market price for the PS3. It is half the launch price, after all.

[Unicron]

LOL VGchartz.

I would also love to know how they figured out that about half of Slim buyers already own a PS3.

Really? That's like me saying 60% of Xbox 360 buyers are replacing RROD consoles.

[Pizzagaki]

Can you proof that?
I trust vgchartz their numbers better then the numbers from some random fanboy.

[Unicron]

The question is, can they prove it? I'd like to know how they figured this out. I don't actually believe what I just said, but you are quick to believe a similar statement with no backing?

Instead of attacking me, why don't you try using your brain and not listen to what every website posts as fact.

[Pizzagaki]

They wont share that, those calculating methods are like the coca cola recipe.
If they share it, everyone will do it.

Fact is, when you compare the vgcharts numbers to the numbers from sony and MS themselves, youl notice that vgcharts is only off by a couple of %.
That is very accurate for a method based on calculating, instead of actual data.

[Unicron]

....wow. Just wow.

So they know how many current PS3 owners are buying Slims, but it's a secret?

LOL. You are too great kid. Thanks.

[jarhead906]

Pizzagaki. It is evident that you feel the need to defend the Xbox 360's sales numbers by looking at your steady string of comments. Just stop. No one is paying you to advertise for them, nor does anyone care about sales numbers besides others like you.

"Fact is, when you compare the vgcharts numbers to the numbers from sony and MS themselves, youl notice that vgcharts is only off by a couple of %. That is very accurate for a method based on calculating, instead of actual data."

Your last sentence doesn't even make sense and shows everyone else that you believe VGChartz doesn't even use actual data compared to 'calculating methods', which is what you're arguing against. You lost to your own debate. And a 'couple of %' is a big deal.

5% of 550,000 units sold = 27,500 units. I'd say that is a fairly large number and that is using VGChartz's inaccurate/made up data (depending on how you want to view it) that you support adamantly.

[skatezero246]

lol wow you made pizza look dumb unicron bubbles for you

[bmw69]

So if the real figure is 525,000 instead of 550,000 that is a big deal? Suddenly PS3 flopped this week?

[ultimolu]

Pizzagaki...I know you're in love with the 360 but common sense goes a long way...:[

[jerethdagryphon]

the art of speculation.

or basing numbers off past trends and data.

since were using vg charts

http://www.flickr.com/photo...

the chart is the first 3 years of the ps2 360 and ps3 according to vg.

what hes saying is the slim will result in a smaller spike similar to the large spikes on the blue line but much less drastic

[renegade]

VG unreliable Charts I sopuse.

[Pizzagaki]

Nope they aint.
They are very accurate, and it impresses me that their calculating numbers are so close to the actually sales data.

[ZBlacktt]

The PS3 will pass the Xbox in 2010, watch and see. We have so much still yet to come in AAA exclusives and then there's the bundles. Christmas season is only a few months a way. Then we start off 2010 with a bang of MAG, GOW3, FFXIII, etc. With many of the other great games being multi console ( Batman, COD, GTA, etc ) There is no reason at all not to buy the worlds best known video game console brand name ( PlayStation ).

[Saaking]

July 2010. At the most September. I remember the bots saying it wasn't possible well, the PS3 just sold 500k in ONE week. Tell me it's not possible again.

[ipe]

but 360 is not outselling ps3 WW on yearly base.

NOt even since launch.The gap it has is from year,year and a half earlier launch.

Just for 2009,ps3 was behind 360 for 100k,and now ps3 is in lead.

U can call it what ever u like,but thats FACT.

and really ps3 sales ll drop big time?Still 250,300k a week is great and more than 360.
Tell me why ll 360 sales sudenly grow steadly?It was selling this amount about 150k for a year.Its last price cut resulted in only 20k raise,hmmm what the hell?

U dont want to hear it,but from now on ps3 ll outsell 360 by 100k or more on week base,thats 400,500k on month base.And thats about milion for 2 months.We ll see who was right.

cheers

[Pizzagaki]

Nope, 360 is in the lead, just check vgchartz, they have been outselling the ps3 since september 2008 until late august 2009.

Expect the 360 to outsell the ps3 again in two weeks.

And sony and MS their numbers are extremely close to that of Vgchartz, so in before but the actual numbers.

[Ju]

That lead was almost annihilated this week and is now down to about 150K for the year 2009. Have some patience and lets talk about this again next week, will you?

[ipe]

more MS and Sony official reports than vg charts.And by that reports 360 sold more than ps3 for about 100k,in first half of 2009.

[jarhead906]

I want a confirmation once and all for how Microsoft counts its sales. Does Microsoft count the number of consoles that they ship to retailers/refurbished units/etc; instead of just the actual units bought by individuals?

[n4gno]

only because of blinds americans..

[jarhead906]

Until more solid data comes out, there are a couple of things that everyone needs to take into consideration.

1.) After a decent amount of time, the PS3 sales WILL decrease. All this means is that once the Slim was released at a very good price point, many people (clearly) purchased the console giving us these huge numbers. Kind of like a new console's launch day.

2.) Just because they decrease, that does not mean the sales are significantly low. I'm wagering that PS3 sales will continue to gradually escalate after the initial drop from the 999%.

Simply put, this is common sense. Expect a dip and then a steady and gradual rise approaching the holiday season.

[bruiser81]

if they can keep this up, they will do what many said they couldn't, catch and pass the 360 by years end.

The results could be as follows
Sep = 2.2m
Oct = 2.2m
Nov = 2.2m
Dec = 2.2m

for a possible grand total of 8.8m

PROVIDED VG CHARTS GOT IT RIGHT FOR ONCE

Now all Sony has to do is keep up the heat by releasing some nice bundles and maybe adding a second controller for a lil xtra value.

[ReBurn]

Do your numbers assume that the 360 just stops selling all together?

Selling more than 8 million PS3's by the end of this year is going to be a stretch at the current price. It's lower than it has ever been, but it's still a pricey piece of entertainment hardware selling in a bad economy.

[bruiser81]

No they do not, Sony has said they had sold at least 24m and MS said they "shipped" 30m which makes the diff 6m. Now subtract 6m from the 8.8m i said sony "could" sell you have a difference. That difference is the cushion i gave MS.

THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL BTW SO NOBODY SHOULD GET ALL DEFENSIVE

[rohail88]

should be 30% more than what vgchartz posted!

[Bordel_1900]

If these numbers are correct, I think the US numbers are kind of disappointing. Specially compared to EU and JAP.

[Ju]

Yep, I am scratching my head here, too. Japan sold more then the US ? That's surprising.

[Bordel_1900]

Update:

NPD numbers show 210 000, compared to 250K for EU and 160K for JAP. That looks better. VGCHARTZ undertracked PS3 sales as usual.

[EvilTwin]

I don't understand the outright disdain for VGC, either.

Predicting sales numbers is like forecasting the weather -- sometimes you're dead on, sometimes you're completely off, but most of the time you're within a few degrees (and if you're predicting a blizzard, it's pretty easy to see it coming on Doppler).

The PS3 is finally priced competitively, so OF COURSE it's going to move big numbers -- we all saw this blizzard coming when the slim was announced. But price cuts always do that. If you're a "sales hound," we're not really going to know how Sony will fare until after the holidays are over.

(And for fanboys who think this is an "OMG, Sony will WIN!" indicator...keep in mind they'll have to outsell Nintendo 2-to-1 from here on out to "win" this gen, while still competing with Microsoft. I don't have a stake in either three consoles beating the other, but it seems like the sales pecking order is set.)

[Shane Kim]

Man 299 dollars is a steal, if only we here in EU had those prices. The PS3 would be ahead of xbox 360 by the end of this year. Sony would have sold close to 1 million ecery week.

Just to give you guys an idea:
PS3 in USA = $299 (wich is 204euro and 2110SEK)
PS3 in EU = 299euro = $433
PS3 in Sweden (I'm from Sweden that's why I chose it) = ~3500SEK = $496 ((other Scandinavian prices is similar since they all go by Nordisk Film wich puts a 25% tax fee on the machines).

So you see, the PS3 is still kind of expensive in the rest of the world. We here in Swe are paying ~1400SEK ($198.30) more than the americans. That is alot.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

The UK it's £249.99 which still sounds a lot to a lot of people.
It was £299.99 before so it only had £50.00 off. But it seems to have got the UK people buying the PS3:Slim at that price;) If only it was £199.99 in the UK!!! ;-P Yeah $299 is nothing really. If a US Gamer don't buy it for that Price he/she is not a real Gamer!!! ;-D

[Iceman100]

wow that really good....nott

"Now all Sony has to do is keep up the heat by releasing some nice bundles and maybe adding a second controller for a lil xtra value."

This is sony your talking about do you really think they care enough about you to do that? lol free controller? why would they when they can keep charging $60 for the over priced ps2 controller.

[Morituri]

With all the industry lingo that gets thrown around on this site, how many of you guys actually work in the industry?

Seriously, you guys sound like a room full of Cliff Clavins when you go on about NPD’s and sales numbers etc. The only difference is you sound 10X as geeky because you only specialize in spouting off about video games. At least the original Cliff Clavin had a vast array of knowledge ranging from a myriad of fields.

If you don’t work in the video game industry, why do you speak as one who does? Why does it even matter to you & why do you dedicate brain cells towards that kind of information? Just an honest question as I feel that we should all be talking as fans of games, people who have a passion for the hobby & not as some number regurgitating software exec.

[EvilTwin]

Because fanboys want their console to "pwn" the competition.

It's not enough to appreciate games anymore, apparently. Even editors at reputable review sites spout fanboy nonsense:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

[n4gno]

...in your ign link "ocampo" seems to be a real xdumbot, or just a (old) fashion victim.

[MegaPowa]

sales will get a little higher but you can't really expect it to beat the wii

edit:OH WAIT SO NOW YOU TRUST VGCHARTS!?

just watch them say vgchartz is 1000% accurate

[Tee7soo]

wtf the ps3 slim in my country cost 450 $ !!

[Ju]

So it does in whole Europe :) LOL.

[djtek184]

sweet!

[amobius]

more than half a mill in a week...

[opticnads]

"A fair proportion of the 550,000 PS3 buyers this week will be existing PS3 owners (especially in Japan) wanting to upgrade to the new machine, maybe 30-40% (as a rough guess), but the remainder will be new buyers - who have been sitting on the fence, waiting for the price to drop"

How can he even publish this article with such a claim? Let me understand this. The author is guessing that 165,000-220,000 of the people who purchased a ps3 for the week is all ready an owner.

So maybe if you drop the price again, then sales will increase even more because more people need second or third ps3's. I see how it works.

[Feral Gamer]

VGChartz is garbage, however I think Sony did sell a lot of PS3s. Everyone seems to applaud them for a price cut, but wouldn't true gamers buy the system no matter what the cost? I've had mine for a couple years and played most of the big-name titles. I think that to give praise to Sony for a price cut is rather lame. With 120 million PS2s sold, I thought more would adopt the PS3 sooner.

Oh well, maybe it just takes time and a price cut.

[ReBurn]

People didn't jump on the PS2 in massive numbers until the price dropped to $199. Then it really took off. We'll see if $299 is the new $199.

[thehitman]

have money you living in twilight zone if you think price doesnt matter

[ShiNe-Box-]

550,000 PS3's were sold in 1 week following the its pricecut.
Less than 350,000 Xbox 360s were sold in the month following its own price cut in 2008.

The Xbox 360 Arcade price cut went into effect less than 1 week into the month of September 2008, and was given about 4 WEEKS to try to reach that 350,000 number, while being price significantly lower than its competition. Interestingly, the PS3 manages to sell 550,000 units in 1 WEEK following its own price cut, while not being the lowest priced console.

The pie blows up in your face again, xbros.

[Relientk77]

I approve, good job Sony

[ll_UNDERSCORE_ll]

Ding,Ding, Ding..... winner buy triangle choke submission.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I believe that 30-40% of those with a PS3 Phat will get a PS3 Slim, but I don't think that percentage of $400-$500K were current owners. I'd say 10% at the most off of gut instinct.

[Amir51]

There really needs to be no debate about the validity of these numbers... We will see when the NPD comes out, and if they match then VG can be called a reliable source, end of story.

They are just estimates, so i dont see any grey area they either real or fake and we will find out lol

[jerethdagryphon]

france reported 37k
uk reported 40k
japan said 150k
usa 210k
4 countrys =437 out of the proposed 550= rest of world sells 113k during that time/ by the number of countrys avalable thats about 2.5k per country

[tonywood24]

FUNNY, WHEN NUMBERS COME OUT ON SONY'S SIDE OF THE FENCE. Sure, I'm a PS3 guy, but didn't hate on the Halo 3 numbers and both Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 sales numbers. (you know, when everyone made of their sales and bowed down to VG Chartz.) When Halo: ODST come out....if the numbers are great, I want to see people on here talk about how ridiculous that is.

STOP HATIN! SONY IS NOT TAKING FOOD OFF OF BUNGIE/HALO'S TABLE.

[Duke_Silver]

you guys really should look up the word estimate in the dictionary, sounds like a bunch of folks whining because their side is losing in a "war" that they take so seriously.

[Mister_G]

Yay!! Game-over man, game-over (for 360) :)

[Waldex]

Salem, Salem, Salem

¿Do you want a piece of me? !DO YOU WANT A P-I-E-C-E O-F M-E!

[na-no-nai]

lmao that funny. i say the ps3 does alot of thing but i can think of one thing the ps3 cant do right now. that is playing motion until sometime next year.
but otherwise its a great deal for $300 compare to xbox360

[altimako02]

is a great time to drop the price of a console. I think the ps3 will absolutely win this holiday season but it will still be close on year long numbers. They really needed a price drop 4 months ago, if not for anything else to slow down the 360s momentum. The numbers will not stay at 500000 a week, but will remain relatively strong. There is going to be numerous articles on how the 360 is dead and that the ps3 will rule the world soon, but every non-fanboy knows its great for the competition to get closer so that we can get our accessories cheaper and get better ones. This console generation has been a little disappointing to me, because all the focus has been on improving graphics(to try to match pc graphics)and not on advancing gameplay or story telling. Anyway we will see how it will all end , in the end. Im just glad to see that games are going down in price instead of up in price(minus cod6).

[champ21]

Once a peaceful people.

The Druids were misguided by the likes of Kutaragi.

Kutaragi promised the Druids untold power (60fps @ 1080p blah blah blah).

The Druids quickly fell for Kutaragis deceit, today they roam the land aimlessly as sonys zombies. They will stop at nothing to spend their hard $ on sony overpriced and obselete products.

The Xbots follow a simular state.

[Waldex]

so why are you butthurt?

[champ21]

300USD seems way overpriced to me.

ID never pay that much for 4 years old GPU.

For 300USD i could be playings games in real HD.

I would think the ps3 would be a reasonalble buy at USD 59, considering how old it is and the gaming experience is so inferior, while the games remain overpriced.. imo low definition games shouldnt cost more then 29usd specially when hi definition versions can be had for 49usd.

And those of you saying claiming 300usd isnt enough for a gaming rig.. i hope you arent typing your posts on a ps3 or 360 lol. 300usd is all it takes to transform even a 2 year old rig to a beast of a system.

[Guitardr85]

Regardless of whether or not it's news like hate or news I like, It's still VGChartz! Need I say more? Once this news is reported from a more reputable source I'll believe it (which I'm sure it already has!!)

[na-no-nai]

champ21 you talking about computers?? well to me, computer are upgradable for as long as you can upgrade it. to many people, it is costly and time-consuming and majority of people are probably gonna get a virus on it so they gonna waste their time. cant wait to play sc2 and also i probably have to upgrade it some more before i can actually play that game
i never really a computer gamer except for sc