WarHawk dev knew about tilt

WarHawk developer Incognito may only have "officially" known about the PS3 tilt controller for a couple of weeks before E3, but Sony Santa Monica game director Brian Upton now claims the companies had been plotting for ages.

"Actually, Incognito has secretly been working with Sony on the tilt technology for a while," he says in an interview with IGN, "but it wasn't until the last few weeks before E3 that they received a working controller."

[TheMART]

Well the txt from this article sounds like Sony is having well thought idea's NOT.

Having some new stuff immplemented just before E3 while normally their PSZero would have launched then (so it's put in there and stolen from Wii) just to get something they could try to get the E3 hype going. Which didn't work obviously.

Then there's only one game announced. HELLO it's a freaking couple of months before the next launch if it's not delayed any further. Have they already begun producing? Otherwise I think it will be E3 2007 when it can be bought by little bits in shops

Actually, Incognito has secretly been working with Sony on the tilt technology for a while," he says in an interview with IGN, "but it wasn't until the last few weeks before E3 that they received a working controller."

Speaking to us at E3, Incog's Dylan Jobe said that the team only received the final controller the Sunday before Sony's Monday press conference.

WarHawk is still the only confirmed supporter of the tilt sensor technology Sony unveiled at E3, although everyone from Pro Evolution Soccer producer Seabass to Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima has expressed interest in working with it since then

[shoota33]

Mart Your an idiot PERIOD.Go play xcrap if it is so damn good and stop spreading your bs everywhere no one wants to hear it.

[TheMART]

Well are you glad with only one game officially anounced using this new great controller?

And that one game is also WARHAWK?

On top of that NO RUMBLE?

You think that's going to sell systems?

[TheMART]

And Lametime, you're ssj so go watch yourself again and again

http://www.pwned.nl

[andy capps]

Quit with the straw-man argument. Of course Warhawk is the only confirmed launch game to use the tilt functionality, they're the only ones that knew about it prior to E3. No news has really been announced for PS3 launch games, or any games really that wasn't made known at E3. Numerous devs have expressed a desire or made known that they will be using the tilt functionality, I haven't read one interview yet that said that a dev wasn't going to use it. They just can't confirm if they will or how they will at this point because of corporate PR politics. That's the way these kinds of things work prior to the launch of a console. And I personally am very excited for the tilt feature, but I do hope that they get the rumble resolved prior to launch. I wouldn't miss it that much, I have a Logitech wireless controller now that I didn't notice prior to buying didn't have rumble. When I got it out of the box of course I noticed it, but after playing through a bunch of games I didn't really miss it that much.

I've already listed several times the numerous PS3 exclusives, that you have conveniently ignored, so quit with your BS about PS3 not having any exclusives.

[TheMART]

Which LAUNCH exclusives that sell it by Christmas that are worth buying?

NONE, the 360 launch line up was very great compared by this weak line up

[andy capps]

Can you tell me what the launch lineup for the PS3 is yet? Cause last I heard they haven't released it... The best games at the XCrap 360 launch were Kameo and CoD2. PS3 will have Warhawk (with supposedly PS2 graphics according to you), Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, new Rainbow Six game, Resistance: Fall of Man, Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom, probably new Tony Hawk game and new Call of Duty 3.

[andy capps]

Still waiting for your comment on this one, TheMART. And since when does the acceptance of the tilt feature among devs hinge on what LAUNCH titles use the feature? Hmmm?..

[super bill]

i think the ps3 will loose this year,but next year the ps3 will start to close the gap on the 360.there will be more games for the ps3.i see all the shops taking preorders have sold out already,even quicker than the 360.

[TheMART]

Yeah it's quit obvious that PS will loose the war this year when 360 already sold 5 million. They can't get that straighten out for sure.

But you forget one thing. Christmas is selling time nr.1. If they miss this Christmas again, which it looks like and 360 will get Sony fans who want Killzone 2 but won't see it again after CGI E3 2005, but can get Gears of War which is all of that CGI but then ingame, Sony is loosing their hardest fans.

Furthermore, I don't think PSZero will win next year. Have you read the reports of the analysts?

And last but not least, there is quit a reasonable doubt about Sony's financial position.

First quarter 2005 already showed over 500 million dollars loss for Sony. Which they had every quarter of that year. This year started first quarter out with almost 600 million dollar loss. As they will do every quarter of this year.

That combined with every 10 million PS's sold, with an average loss of 300 to 400 dollar a unit, makes 3 to 4 BILLION dollars loss over those machines.

Their shares already rocked bottem from high point 120 dollars. The shareholders probably are getting enough of barbie ken. Especially when one sees that with TV's, Samsung is gaingin much terrain on Sony's former master position.

"Howard Stringer has assured Sony shareholders that he's turning the company's fortunes around, with PlayStation 3 a major factor in planned growth.

At a packed shareholder meeting in Tokyo today, Sony's boss said, "We have entered a period of re-emergence."

Sony's losses for the January-March quarter were up to 66.5 billion yen (US$578 million), worse than the 56.5 billion yen loss for the same period in 2005. Investment in PlayStation 3 was one of the reasons cited.

Stringer said the company is on target to hit an operating profit margin of five percent by the year starting April 2007, up from 2.6 percent last year. However, margins this year are down to less than 2% due to PS3'as introduction."

And don't forget, the normally fanbased Japan is off the hook also for the PSZero:

"Japan's development community shared anonymous thoughts on the PlayStation 3 in the latest issue of Japan's Ge-Maga. The magazine asked developers throughout the nation a number of questions regarding Sony's next generation platform. While the number of responses was not revealed, Ge-Maga is pretty well-connected (name changes aside, Ge-Maga is the oldest videogame magazine in Japan), so we're going to assume the survey reached a good portion of Japan's development community.

Of course, the big question concerned price. 90.29% of the surveyed feel the PS3 is too pricey, compared to just 9.71% who feel that it's priced just right. One developer commented, "It's more expensive than my rent."

Last but not least the analysts say:

For 2007, IDG predicts Microsoft dominance for the next two years in the North American next-gen game hardware market, at least in terms of installed base. The forecast predicts 10.6 million consoles in homes for Xbox 360, 6.8 million for PlayStation 3, and a modest 3.5 million for Wii in 2007. In 2008, Anderson suggests 15.5 million units in homes for the 360, 13.5 million for PS3, and 6.8 million for Wii. He does mention that his group expects the PS3 to win out in the installed based race in the end, perhaps in 2009."

So there you have it

[Silver360]

The shops stopped taking pre orders because they will only be getting 20 units per store. Where with the 360 they got 50 - 80 units. Talk about your shortages and price gouging. November is gonna really hurt those Sony fans wallets.

[achira]

how can someone talk such bs ? "they stopped": are you crazzy ? go into a shop and you can order one you fool.

[shoota33]

Mart you still cant prove xcrap sold 5 million you just think they did but they are barly at 4 million. they are selling a crappy 200,000 consoles a month which will not do it.ps3 will come out and make MS look like an ass. they wont even reach 6 million by th time ps3 come out.

[TheMART]

OMG Oh my FREAKING God. You are as dumb as barbie Ken himself.

That sales figures you're mentioning are only from North-America. And still then you're scaling them low. April sold 294.000 units, may 221.000 units. Europe/Australia and rest of the world sells 500.000+ consoles every month.

So 700.000 to 800.000 every month. @ March they sold 3,2 Million. Plus 3 months x 700.000 makes 2.1 million or 3 x 800.000 makes 2.4 million

3.2+2.1 = 5.3

or

3.2 + 2.4 = 5.6 million

You must be under 8 and can't count. So by the end of this year it's another 6 months x 800.000 at least (see sales kicking in higher gear when Gears of War is here).

5.6 million + 4.800.000 is over 10 million sold period.

And you're PWNED again

http://www.pwned.nl

[kingboy]

this mart guy is always the first on every ps3 post talking sh*t..does he even have a 360? i will luv to buy u one so u shut up a little.

[PS360PCROCKS]

hey u can buy me a second one if your into a giving mood...my bedroom would like one

[Islandkiwi]

I don't want this motion feature, I like rumble. I saw the guy playing Warhawk at E3, it looked awkward and stupid.

I'm not seeing a reason for the technology. With the Wii they've shown the usefulness, but with the PS3 it's been a no-show. As it was with the MS Sidewinder for the PC.

[achira]

have you ever played the sidewinder ? surely not ! it was great ! i played it by my friend. the only reason it didnt survive was the lack of support.

[TheMART]

No, it didn't survive, because people think it is fun for 5 minutes and then want to sit back, relax and PLAY a game. Not to move around the whole freaking room

So it's utterly dumb that Sony tries this even. Sidewinder has proven it already in the pasts. It's a dead horse

[Islandkiwi]

The reason it didn't survive was because of lack of support. Exactly. And right now Warhawk is the only game I've seen using it. That's a lack of support too.

I think it might be cool if they had rumble as well (that way in driving games you'd feel when you're cornering too hard) but without the rumble feature it is not as useful.

[shoota33]

Just like people will not want to move around a room playing Wii.

[TheMART]

Wrong.

Different kind of gaming, different kind of public.

360 is for 18 to 35 year target group.
Wii is for under 16 and parents/grandparents that can't control a normal controller.
Those want to swing their controller like it's a golfclub. That's fun.

But a normal controller that has to be used in only one game

I SAY AGAIN

ONLY ONE GAME

for launch which is Warhawk (damn I have to laugh every time I see or hear about it). That's sh*tty nothing worth

[shoota33]

OH yeah real different.too bad playstion is for all ages and kicks anyone elses console out. Just like it will do the xbox 360 haha 103 million ps2 to 24 million xbox's

[jib]

what's the point of having motion sensors to control your plane in this game. you don't exactly use motion sensors to fly planes. you use a CONTROL-STICK. that's what the JOY-STICK on your controller is for.

would anyone prefer using motion sensors over a steering wheel for driving games? NO. why? because they just aren't as similar.

[super bill]

how do you know warhawk is going to be [email protected] the controller is,nt going to work?

[TheMART]

I've watched all ingame movies. I read articles.

Have you seen footage? The flying thing isn't special at all. Looks like PS2 game. The walking GTA kind of look is even WORSE then a PS2 game. For real go and watch it.

Movement has been done by MS for PC. It is fun for 5 minutes. It's a gimmick. It's no rumble. It's a thing you want to turn off.

No I really think some games look good. But there are really few. MGS4 looks good, but how much is CGI again as always with Sony? The gameplay of 4 seconds play, movie 30 seconds, play 40 seconds, movie 4 minutes is not fun I think

Heavenly Sword looks good. Assassins Creed also, but that is coming to 360 also. So not much need to buy a PS.

So yep there are a few fun games. But Sony is loosing too much money to compete with exclusives from MS/360 and everyone knows it

[shoota33]

He doesnt he hates on all the feature ps3's has an the xrap doesnt.thats a tipical xbox fanboy.If MS had motion sensors in their controller he would be priasing it right now.

[jib]

i'm actually getting a ps3. just not anytime soon. when it hits $350 so i can play my FF, MGS, Dragon Quest, DBZ/Naruto fighting games. I prefer PS2 over Xbox.

you're just touchy. it's called an opinion. just because i favored PS2 last generation doesn't mean I'm going to be all pro-sony like you and your "oh yeah?! ps sold 100mil!"

[super bill]

don,t forget its early days yet for warhawk.its still got 4 months yet,you say its not very good because you seen only footage of the game doesn,t mean anything.i remember when the 360 games come out at launch last year.pgr3 had frame rate problems so did perfect dark.madden was rushed,fifa world cup was just rubbish,the only games i like were call of duty,and condemed.to say warhawk is crap only because of video footage its totally rubbish.

[DC RID3R]

This is so embarrasing so fony-sony.
sony are lucky that the majority of their fan base are dumb ass casual gamers, if only they clued-up and could smell the coffee.
not even on the gaming aspect of things though, sony's stock market value is in virtual freefall, i wonder how they're gonna feel when the wii pisses all over them in japan???

[NJ1307RSX]

Sony's stock went UP today again. PS3 will beat the xbox 360.
Actually the Xbox 360 may even STOP PRODUCTION.
Check this:
http://www.pcworld.com/reso...
Not feeling so confident now are you.

[andy capps]

Which is a more casual gamer, your average Halo fan, or your average Final Fantasy or MGS fan?

But in further response to your comment, your average PS2 gamers are the ones that bought a PS2 when it had been around for years and had been through several price drops. It'll be the same this time around. Hardcore gamers will sustain a console through the launch while the manufacturer continues to streamline the process and make it more cost-effective. There will still be losses in the launch period, but they are minimized due to early adopters bearing the brunt of the burden.

[OutLaw]

That news is almost 3 Months old.

[TheMART]

So NJ stock got up again? And then it goes down again

Fact is

1st quarter 2005: over 500 million dollars loss. As every quarter of that year.
1st quarter 2006: almost 600 millon dollars loss. As every quarter of this year will.

Every 10 million PSZero's sold times 300 or 400 dollars loss per unit, makes

3 TO 4 BILLION DOLLARS LOSS

Go and explain that to shareholders

[mikeeno7]

The Mart, i like xbox 360 just like you, but i feel you are giving us all a bad name. There are certain things you need to post as facts before declaring guns-blazing victories. The Xbox 360 started manufacturing in early August after the finalized ATI graphics GPU plans were completed on July 23rd. So if PS3 starts before this, they are doing bad but still doing better than Microsoft. Sony, remember, is primarily a hardware corporation, so will have extra advantages in manufacturing processes.

[NJ1307RSX]

Yeah I know its 3 months old but the point is that the 360 can still be stopped. All that Lucent has to do is appeal. It's very possible that the 360 stays in stores, but there's still a chance its pulled off the stores.
Which would benifit the PS3.

[OutLaw]

Go to the view pending news. There is an article that states:

Sony Corp., the world's second- largest consumer electronics maker, said it took out an 80 billion yen ($698 million) syndicated loan last week, its first bank borrowing in 10 years, to diversify funding sources.

To me that sounds like an company in trouble themselves.

[andy capps]

I doubt that, Outlaw. It sounds like typical corporate dealings to me. Companies borrow and lend all the time, I work for a major bank and from what I've seen, it's not unusual.

[OutLaw]

I'm not saying unusual, all I'm saying that's a Heavy loan to borrow.

[jib]

nj keeps trying dig deep for bad news on the 360 and keeps comming up with links that are 3months-1year old. lol real funny. bad news on the ps3 comes at a daily-weekly basis.

[NJ1307RSX]

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

I guess everyone who bought an Xbox 360 is stuck with the slow and broken dvd-9 format.

[TheMART]

Warhawk still stays a d*mbf*ck PS2 game and the only one with movement kiddy stuff

[Dustin_c_miller2008]

heck i dont care if sony copied nintendo i dont care if nintendo copied sony im going to buy both of their systems and microsofts xbox 360 is awesome i dont know why so many people are choosing just one game system.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

At E3 warhawk dev said they didnt know about the tilt sensor technology till a week before

[Jay da 2KBalla]

At E3 warhawk dev said they didnt know about the tilt sensor technology till a week before

[3CDOWidow]

Sony were makeing motion sensors way before Wii remote, anyone heard of QRIO? that robot was loaded with all kinds of motion sensor technology, all Sony has done, is implement it into a controller. The Wii motion tech is different to what Sony is useing, Sony's controller doesnt use ecternal sensors you have to place near the TV like the Wii controller uses, so can someone explain how Sony copied the Wii controller?

All this blah blah copied blah blah is stupid anyway and childish.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

NJ1307 ia a racist asshole and a multiple account user who spams the site

BAN NJ NOW