GamingVice.net: Tekken 6 on 360 Analysis: The Rematch

Gary of GamingVice.net wrote:

"As a journalist its probably wrong for me to say I told you so, but well, I called it didn't I? When Tekken 6 was first announced to be multi-platform, media people who love to stir up console war nonsense suggested that Tekken 6 could not possibly be done on the Xbox 360 the same way it could be done on the Playstation 3. This was fueled by a Namco developer claiming that getting Tekken to run well on the 360 would be difficult."

[Simon_Brezhnev]

could careless about that button smasher game blazblue/kof ftw

[rockleex]

Remember when Microsoft said the 360 offers "free AA" for games? ^_^

[Kain81]

commonsense Said,

“it looks better as the Playstation 3 version has jagged edges.”

oh…. you didn’t mentioned about the loading times on the 360 version or the sync image problems or the faulty framerate of the 360 version.. tsk.. I saw it on the E3 and the 360 version looks better on a still image, but in motion… well….

[table]

The saying is that you 'couldn't care less'! i.e. you already care the least! why the hell does everyone type it 'could care less' on this website. sheesh.

[ultimolu]

Give up man, it's not going to change minds or get these people to be reasonable.

Personally, I'm still getting Tekken 6 either way along with Blaze Blue and KOF XII. As long as the game doesn't look like total and utter crap on the PS3, I'll enjoy it like any other Tekken game.

[DMasta718]

Anyone who calls it a button masher, obviously don't know nothing about Tekken.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"Now here’s the real kicker, if you like the staff of GamingVice.net were at E3 last week you’ll notice something very interesting about the Xbox 360 version of Tekken 6. It is graphically better than its Playstation 3 counterpart. Am I happy about this? Not at all but I find it very ironic that after all this arguing over Tekken 6’s ability to even be on the 360, it looks better as the Playstation 3 version has jagged edges."

The question I ask is are they in the same phase of development? A lot of the time things are cleaned up and polished at the very end and perhaps they are just in different phases?

Anyway, this wouldn't be the first time fanboys get owned. I hope that Namco get the game to look identical on both systems as it should be.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

How many times can a 360 owner get excited about details that you have to split screen, rather than say Killzone2 walking over every 360 game ever made, or Uncharted2, or Gran Turismo5, or Infamous, or.. every quality ps3 exclusive that runs visual circles around the 360? Wouldn't it be nice to just have a title that clearly out performs a ps3 game visually without a microscope? I know that day is never going to happen, but still.

The reason everyone is upset when m$ signs a check and "steals" a franchise is because we all know its going to get gimped from what it would have looked like (kz2/gt5/uncharted) and into a generic looking multiplatform game. Which is always the case. People are left to argue about a texture on a crate. When the entire picture is still inferior to PS3 games. The only thing this proves is that Namco went the way of least resistance, and used multiplatform code to push out Tekken6. Its not a graphical juggernaught anymore, I remember seeing pores on Kazuyas face. Now it looks like 5

[XxSpiiKeZxX]

so 360 fanz get excited over hearing tekken 6 can run or even surpass the ps3 version. the question is, Does it look better than Kz2, uncharted, gt5, etc.???
just b/c 360 version runs better doesnt prove anything we all know the ps3 can do more... look at it as this if 360 and ps3 version are identical its automatically a given that u know the ps3 version couldve been better since it has a whole lot more space...rather than graphics everyone who knows that bluray>dvd can understand that developers couldve added more content
i dnt care if its the same identical crap on both consoles itz just that u cant claim just b/c of that the 360 is in teh same league when clearly itz not
almost every multiplat games runed/looked better on 360 but its the exclusive that packs the graphic king and also quality

[50CALheadshot]

multiplats are rentals at best for that very reason....exclusives are the crown jewels you cant let go of

to all the disagrees:

uncharted vs any 360 game
gt5prologue versus forza2
mgs4 versus any 360 game
infamous versus any 360 game

not too mention, nowadays there is a very high probability developers are making titles look equal on both consoles in order to not pissoff 1 fanbase.
of course intricate details like these get overlooked by your typical raging fanb0y

[SaberEdge]

Anti-aliasing is extremely important. I hate jaggies and I can't wait until next generation when the anti-aliasing is much better. Texture resolution and detail is also extremely important.

That is part of the reason I tend to buy most of my multiplatform games for the 360. I was sick of seeing every PS3 multiplatform game I looked at having worse aliasing, lower texture resolution, missing effects, more screen tearing, slower frame rate, and fuzzier image quality than the 360 counterparts.

The fact is, the PS3 isn't as powerful as people make it out to be. One of the key IBM designers of both CPUs said, "At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal." http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

John Carmack has expressed that "...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..." http://www.destructoid.com/...
He also said "Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there."
"And the other major difference is the memory partitioning. Where they're both 512mb machines, but on the PS3 it's partitioned into 256mb of video and 256mb of main. And one of the biggest things that Sony does poorly for developers is their system stuff sucks up a lot more resources than it does, than Microsoft's does on the 360. So memory is much more painful on the PS3. We spend a lot more time trying to crunch down the memory for that..."

Jason Booth, a former developer with Harmonix, also says that the PS3 is not more powerful than the 360. http://www.gamedaily.com/ar...
He says ""Fill rate is one of the primary ways to measure graphics performance - in essence, it's a number describing how many pixel operations you can perform. The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance," "Additionally, the shader processing on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, which means that a normal map takes more fill rate to draw on the PS3 than it does on the 360. And I'm not talking about small differences here, we're talking roughly half the pixel pushing power."

Real life engineers and software developers tell us either that the two consoles are close in performance capabilities or the 360 is actually a bit more powerful in general. Two and a half years of better performing multiplatform games on the 360 also hint at the same thing.

A few well-funded and overhyped exclusives does nothing to change that. Killzone 2 and Uncharted look exceptionally good, but not nearly as good as PS3 fanboys would lead you to believe. They are not really doing anything more technically impressive than games like Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, Assassin's Creed or Resident Evil 5. All of these games show their performance in different ways, but they are all more or less equal in technical terms.

[YourCall]

Dude, you make some of the most rediculous and most flamatory comments I have ever read on this site. Do you make these bone head comments on purpose or are you just that ignorant.

Since you know everything, perhaps you know which console was the lead console? Was it the PS3 or was it the 360.

Here ya go smart-ass, let me help you out a little bit on that. “The game was programmed on PS3 architecture and specifically designed to make full use of the Cell’s SPU. So it’s going to be a big challenge to bring the game to the Xbox 360,” he told PSU (he being Tekken 6 Project Leader, Katsuhiro Harada.)

http://www.psu.com/PS3-stil...

Why would you need to "gimp" the PS3 version if the PS3 was the lead console. Once again you blindly and ignorantly run your mouth and don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Do us all a favor and do less talking and more reading.

Edit: @saberedge (above)

Well written, bubbles up.

[All-3]

Seems like some people have forgotten this:

Tekken 6 was the first arcade game to be released using the PS3-based System 357 arcade board, and bearing in mind the developer’s 10 year history developing for PlayStation, Harada told us that Tekken 6 was specifically designed for Sony's latest home console.

“The game was programmed on PS3 architecture and specifically designed to make full use of the Cell’s SPU. So it’s going to be a big challenge to bring the game to the Xbox 360,” he told PSU.

http://www.psu.com/PS3-stil...

BTW --> one isn't stealing, if one has paid for something.

[rockleex]

Why?

Because being exclusive doesn't automatically make a game look and play better.

If the developers don't have the talent and dedication, then they can't bring out the power of a console no matter if the game is multiplat or exclusive.

The only way to truly bring out the PS3's power is if developers create their own engine from the ground up to use the Cell processor to its fullest. To all our knowledge, no third party dev has created an engine from the ground up specifically for the PS3.

A great example is FFXIII. It was made "exclusively" for the PS3 using a multiplatform engine, the White Engine. Which was why it was possible to port to the 360 easily. Even Versus uses the same engine, so if they decided to lose exclusivity, they could easily port to the 360 at any time.

That being said, even if the engine is specifically built from the ground up for the PS3, if the developer doesn't have talent... then it still won't look and work great.

Added: Virtua Fighter 5 looks MUCH better graphically than Tekken 6. Both are multiplats. Once again, Tekken 6 would have been "gimped" no matter what console it was released on.

Those who know me know that I always support Playstation and Sony. But I won't go so far as to defend third parties who lack talent... they really have nothing to do with Sony anyways. O_o

[Sarcasm]

@Saberedge, I'm not gonna bother reading your failed attempt at downplaying the PS3's hardware.

Why?

Becaues the software speaks for itself.

And it's spoken since Ratchet & Clank Future, MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted, Wipeout HD, GT5P, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

And now and soon Uncharted 2, GoWIII, GT5, Ratchet & Clank Future 2, etc. etc. etc.

Seriously, get over it. When a developer takes their time on the PS3, the games are amazing.

Name one single Xbox360 game. Just one. ONE! Uno! Ichi! Yat! That's in F'in English, spanish, japanese, and chinese! That runs something like WipeoutHD in 1920x1080 resolution. And don't give me the BS about it having the variations of 1920x1080 resolution to 1280x1080 resolution, because even at 1280x1080 resolution that's still higher than any 360 game can do that's not Boogie Bunnies.

And it's not just about resolution. Uncharted 1. Not 2! Drake is made of 22,000 polygons. And the pinnacle of 360 games? Gears of War. Fenix is made up of 15,000 polygons. Forza 2, each car is made up of about 80,000 polygons. In GT5P? Over 200,000 polygons as well as being in 1280x1080 resolution ANNNNNDDDD do it with 16 cars on screen vs 8 cars in Forza 2.

So enough with the "Oh, in reality both systems have the same power" crap. It's already a known FACT that the PS3 has the better hardware. It just takes more than an average PC developer to push it.

/rant

[Jaces]

Just curious, but why do exclusives on the PS3 always look so much better and smoother than whats found in the multiplat games for the PS3?

Riddle me that.

I mean, I've yet to see a game on the 360 that has surpassed it's multiplats when it comes to graphical wow. The only one I can think of is Alan Wake...but even then that took 5 years to develop and unlike KZ2 they weren't making their own engine for the game to run on and even that's impressive seeing how they made that game in less time.

You fanboys can rave all you want, but when I see games like Uncharted, KZ2, GoWIII, and Heavy Rain....well your arguments are moot and childish at best when trying to compare multiplats.

[el zorro]

Hey CaseyRyback, one or two exclusives that look a little better is nothing to brag about. I would rather play 90% of my games with a little better graphics than one or two exclusives with slightly better graphics. Killzone 2 was pretty boring anyway and looking a little bit better than some other shooter isn't going to make me really enjoy it that much more. Most ps3 games look worse anyway. I care about games like Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Prince of Persia, Call of Duty 4, Dark Sector, Resident Evil 5, Overlord and a ton of other multi-platform games looking better than having just a couple ps3 exclusives looking better.

[rockleex]

Sorry, but Uncharted says otherwise. If you TRULY think PS3 exclusives and 360 exclusives are about equal... look again. This dude explains the differences, and shows it in pictures AND videos.

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

At the end of the day, PS3 exclusives beat out all other games. Sure, Killzone 2 had like 4 years of development, but that was because they were basically researching and testing differed rendering the whole time.

But Uncharted? Only about 2 years of development. Uncharted 2? Same.

Edit: PS3 will remain the most powerful until a 360 game can beat Uncharted 1 in terms of graphics. And once that's done, then they still gotta beat Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW 3, Last Guardian, GT5, etc.

Disagreeing with the truth? Sorry if the Uncharted comparison makes Gears look like a PS2 game... the truth must hurt a LOT for 360 fanboys, right? ^_^

Lets only remember that ugly looking multiplats have AA on the 360 and not on PS3! It TRULY displays how weak the PS3 is! Uncharted what? No such game exists in our fanboy minds! >:D

[XDF]

So I guess you will be missing out on Modern Warfare 2, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock 2, and Batman Arkum Asylum then. The last time I checked, they are multiplatform games that look and play ther same on both.

Uncharted vs anything on X360...LMFAO...OK, Whatever...I guess X360 owners should just quit and forget about their exclusives like Forza 3, Halo ODST, and Splinter Cell Conviction then.

How is Tekken 6 gimped??? I play it in the Arcade and it look worst than DOA4 and VF5.

[SaberEdge]

@ Sarcasm

The point is, a couple of exclusives that arguably look a little better than the best 360 games is not enough to ignore what actual engineers and developers are telling us. It also isn't enough to just ignore the fact that over 90% of multiplatform games look and/or perform better on the 360. If the PS3 really were more powerful than the 360, that should not be happening, period.

The other problem is you guys list a bunch of games that nobody, but you, think are really all that amazing graphically. You mention Ratchet & Clank Future, MGS4, Wipeout HD and GT5P, and in my opinion as an owner of both consoles none of those games are doing anything that the 360 hasn't done. Ratchet & Clank Future and Wipeout HD are nice looking games, but there are dozens of games that look just as good on the 360. MGS4 is impressive, but due to its sub-HD resolution and average texture quality I don't think it even looks as good as games like Gears of War. GT5P again is a nice looking game, but Forza 3 now beats it in my opinion. Will GT5 look even better? Who knows, but that is how it stands now.

That's the problem here, PS3 fanboys tend to see every PS3 exclusive as something graphically cutting edge even when its not. Infamous is a fun game I am playing through right now, but you have to be fooling yourself if you think the 360 couldn't run it just fine. In fact, the graphics are not really all that impressive. But it is a fun game and that is what counts the most.

Think about it, when Killzone 2 came out there were maybe a couple reviewers that said it was the best-looking shooter or best-looking game on consoles (just as there were when Gears 2 came out), but the vast majority of reviewers said no such thing. That is because most people don't see it as some huge graphical powerhouse that beats all other games like the PS3 fans do, they see it as more or less an equal to some of the other graphical heavy hitters like Gears of War 2 or Resident Evil 5.

I'm sorry, but I am going to trust my own eyes and what talented developers like John Carmack say about the issue more than the rantings and ravings of fanboys on the internet.

[rockleex]

I guess you did not click the two links I provided. We are not talking about little extra pixels here and there, like 360 fans do when they're comparing multiplats.

If you check the links, there's a MAJOR graphical leap between what Uncharted 1 does compared to what Gears 2 does.

@XDF

No, we're not telling you guys to forget about great 360 exclusives. The point is, 360 fans hail multiplat games as if they're the definitive answer to which system is more graphically powerful.

We're just telling them those multiplats just can't compare against exclusives on the 360 or PS3. And if you're talking about exclusives, then PS3 ultimately has the best looking exclusives so far.

If 360 fans can see the difference between PS3 and 360 versions of multiplats... just imagine the difference they'll see when they click on the links I provided. Unless of course, their vision suddenly can't detect differences anymore after clicking that link. ^_^

[50CALheadshot]

"So I guess you will be missing out on Modern Warfare 2, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock 2, and Batman Arkum Asylum then. The last time I checked, they are multiplatform games that look and play ther same on both."

seems your reading comprehension FAILS you. miserably at that. let me rewind be4 your head implodes: "multiplats are rentals at best for that very reason", is what i stated.

meaning: ill rent the multiplat or borrow it from a friend, have it for a week and then return it. Same exact thing i have done with ALL multiplats this gen. the only thing i keep after im done with multiplats, is the trophies. because, as soon as im done with it i return it and erase its save data. why should i give slacker devs my money? id rather give it to devs who are optimizing their game engine from the ground up to cater to the ps3.

makes sense to u? good

and btw, i dont expect you to come up with a smart or logical rebuttal...since there isnt one, in your case.

@ 2.13: since you are "playing" infamous, i am going to have to say your comments hold no truth to them and are just tailored to elaborate your bias without any facts.

FACT 1:
infamous streams 95% of the time. meaning there is probably 5-8% loading times throughout the whole game.

FACT2:
create havoc and blow up alot of s#it and infamous WILL NOT LAG. GTA4 will lag. gfx ,audio, lighting and physics in infamous pwns gta4 and crackdown.

Fact3:
uncharted 1 > all 360 games. everyone knows this, except you and a couple of other people here.

Fact4:

U FAILED

[XDF]

Ok, since when does better looking exclusives = A better game. GTA 3 on PS3 look like crap and it was hailed as one of the best game on that era. Better exclusives are subjected anyways. You are telling me AAA franchises like Halo, Gears, L4D, Mass Effect, Fable, Splinter Cell, and Forza can't compete with the likes of GT5, GOW, and Uncharted because they look a little bit worst? GTFOH

Also @ the idiot above, so go rent Modern Warfare 2 for a week then while other PS3 fans will have fun playing it on PSN for months and months to come unlike...hmmm KZ2..Cough. Is anyone still playing that game online now since the MW2 trailer?

[50CALheadshot]

you cant upkeep a sensible and mature debate.

You find yourself in a hole and resort to calling me an idiot.
'
thats fine, there is a reason why xbox live is known as a online cesspool of immature gamers. Thanx for further proving that point

[rockleex]

I'm sorry, but please tell me where I ever said better graphics equals a better game?

In fact, I was planning on mentioning that graphics don't mean a better game. But seeing how long my rants were getting, I ended up focusing only on graphics comparisons. As you can see, I'm a Playstation supporter. I'm used to playing graphically inferior games on the PS2, and they were some of the best games ever created.

That being said, Uncharted is one of the best games in terms of graphics AND gameplay this generation. Its possible to have best of both worlds. Of course, 360 has great games with great graphics too.

But if you're speaking strictly about graphics and debating which system can offer the best graphics, then the PS3 has the upper hand so far.

[XDF]

Yea so you the mature one and calling me xboxdefenseforce. Yea nice one. This XDF just so happen to have a PS3 and a Kratos Avatar on his profile pic.

Also @ Rockleex, you said "I'm sorry, but please tell me where I ever said better graphics equals a better game?" You didn't say that but you did mention

"Disagreeing with the truth? Sorry if the Uncharted comparison makes Gears look like a PS2 game... the truth must hurt a LOT for 360 fanboys, right? ^_^"

Like I said before, It is all graphics non-sense 24/7 on N4g from PS3 fanboys. And don't tell me neither one of you are Sony Worshipper.

[rockleex]

And don't tell me neither one of you are Sony Worshipper."

PS3 fanboys talking graphics nonsense 24/7?

So its not nonsense when 360 fanboys gloat 24/7 over the fact that they have anti-aliasing in a graphically mediocre multiplat game, as if that makes the PS3 inferior?

All I've said was that if we're talking about graphics, PS3 exclusives are yet to be trumped by 360 exclusives OR multiplats. No one here has stepped up to the challenge to prove me wrong. They just keep avoiding the question. Now I'm the one talking nonsense?

I have already said that I'm a supporter of Sony and what they're doing for the video game industry. But I'm no fanboy.

I'm able to accept my console of choice's shortcomings... unfortunately, graphics isn't one of those shortcomings this generation for the PS3.

Edit:
Why the hell are we talking about gameplay in an article about the graphics of Tekken 6? Come on, I would have assumed some of you are smart enough to figure we're STRICTLY talking about graphics here.

[Jaces]

There's no point in trying to persuade fanboys, don't waste your breath.

[creatchee]

Dude - in all honesty, inFamous plays very well, except it got a bit jumpy during the prison shootout when all the enemies rushed in a that big-@$$ conduit walkers were running amuck. Not complaining, as it was an awesome setpiece, but the games DOES lag in certain spots...

[GaryofGamingVice]

I agree with you Crab, neither version should be gimped at all.

[GaryofGamingVice]

Actually that's false, when this game was first announced, pores on Kazuya's face was all in CG. Even when the original Tekken 6 came out in arcades it looked the same way it does now.

I'd normally agree with you about 360 versions causing gimping of multi-platforms but this isn't the case with Tekken.

[360 man]

wow ps3 ownage right thurr

not only can 360 match the ps3 version but it also surpasses it

[caladbolg777]

This isn't exactly the case. Being a multi-platform title, it isn't in the developer's interest to have one version look better than the other. If both look and play nearly identical, then from a developer's standpoint it's for the better.

Had T6 remained PS3 exclusive, it could have very well looked better than it does now, especially considering that development time and manpower wouldn't be cut in half.

On a more personal note, why is it that you troll, 360 man? Is it a pleasurable experience for you to act like a moron in front of your gaming peers? Also, why all the "fanboy" hate? Why the negativity? Up until recently, "fanboy" has always been an endearing term used between nerds, gamers and geeks. Now, especially this generation, it's come to mean something else entirely. I just don't quite understand you people.

[-MD-]

Why don't you ask the hundreds of PS3 fanboys that troll these threads? I see you calling out 360 fans but never talking to the PS3 people.

Very odd.

[rockleex]

I'd call it Namco self-ownage.

Why? Tekken 6 can't even hold a candle to Street Fighter 4 nor Virtua Fighter 5 graphically!

Once again, it doesn't matter if a game is exclusive/multiplat. If we're talking about graphics, then what matters is how much power a developer can bring out of a console.

If a developer can bring out the true power of a console, then it would now be a question of which console has the most power.

But seeing as how Tekken 6 can barely stand up to half of this gen's games graphically, I don't see what fanboys on both sides are yapping on about.

At least choose more worthy games like Assassin's Creed 2 or something. But even then, it'd get destroyed by Uncharted 2.

So tell me, why are fanboys going on arguing about pointless stuff that BOTH sides ALREADY know? -_-"

Edit: Why disagree? Yea, lets all argue over which system has the best looking Pacman game!!! Wait, how about Tetris?

Until you can show me a multiplatform game that looks better than Uncharted 1, then there's just no point to debate over multiplatform graphics as if its supposed to display each system's full potential.

Unless you really believe multiplats display each system's full potential? If so, then there's just no hope for you. -_-"

[caladbolg777]

"Why don't you ask the hundreds of PS3 fanboys that troll these threads?"

I call it when I see it. I saw it today, and so I called it out. The times that I don't call it out, I de-bubble people. It's not a tit-for-tat sort of thing. I don't have a problem with "fanboys". I have a problem with trolls and 360 man is a blatant and obvious troll. There's one thing to revel in the strengths of your chosen system, but it's entirely another to waltz in to a thread with the sole intention of acting like a tw@t and causing a fight. That's what the open zone is for.

[-MD-]

Much like 99% of the readers on this site do? I find it hard to believe you go into threads and de-bubble every PS3 fanboy declaring victory this generation considering there are hundreds of them swarming around.

I see like 50 PS3 fanboys posts above his yet you didn't call them out.

[Peekay]

This is just lame. I've never seen so many 360 media fan boys out in force at E3. First Microsoft takes E3, then Natal is the second coming of christ and now this. This is the only no bit site that claims this without any factual evidence. I knew the 360 had crap games (my own opinion) but please media fanboys don't take it out on the Ps3.

[GaryofGamingVice]

In what way is this post taking anything away from the PS3? Games wise the Playstation 3 has more titles that I want to buy this year inFamous and Uncharted 2 to name a few.

I was at E3 my friend and everyone who played the 360 version of Tekken 6 there said the same thing. The 360 version doesn't have the jagged edges that the Playstation 3 version has. I saw this for myself as all 3 days of E3 I played numerous games of T6 on both versions.

Perhaps you're the one who needs to check their facts.

[GaryofGamingVice]

As for development stages, the tekken 6 we're getting has been in arcades for awhile as Tekken 6: Bloodline Rebellion(an update to the original tekken 6 the same as Tekken 5 and Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection.) The Namco System 357(the arcade machine) which runs Tekken 6: BR is honestly a PS3 in an arcade machine, you can compare the specs for yourself, I won't post it because someone will tell me I have no credibility again, so all I'll say is that the information is honestly a google visit away from anyone who needs to know.

Another cool fact is that the 360 also runs Street Fighter 4 better than both the PS3 version and the original arcade version which is why if you run a side-by-side comparison the 360 version of SF4 is faster. From a technical stand point its a real accomplishment but arcade fans/pros don't like the 360 version because it throws off their timing.

This isn't to fan the flames of any console wars, but just some interesting facts to silence people who doubt the credibility of good and honest fact checking and choose to settle for what people tell them.

[lloyd_wonder]

If you're so credible, why didn't you provide credible evidence of you playing both games side by side, and showcasing the PS3 version having jaggies? How hard is it to buy a two dollar camera and snap some pictures at e3?

Anyways, Tekken 6 was built on the PS3 using several of the SPUs. There is no way the 360 could emulate that with it's three slower processors... unless they toned the PS3 version down.

[kaveti6616]

The 360 cores are clocked at the same speed as the SPUs. And that speed is 3.2 Ghz. So stop spreading FUD about the 360.

[lloyd_wonder]

Tekken 6 is not a graphical masterpiece, but all you said was that they look identical, with the PS3 version having jaggies? Did you play them side by side? Did you take pictures?

[raztad]

Tekken 6 looks decidedly average at most. Characters look plastic, and the environment is nothing to write home. Past are the days when Tekken was synonymous of graphical powerhouse. Look at Tekken 5 on the ps2 (awesomeness) and Tekken Dark Resurrection (almost Tekken 5 quality).

I dont know why took so long to develop Tekken 6. Vf 5 was almost a launch title and looks better.

Pass on this. I'm going to get SC for the psp. Good visuals and Kratos is in.

[GaryofGamingVice]

Lloyd, I'll give you that I don't have pictures, but yes I did play the games "side-by-side" considering the proximity of the Namco and Microsoft booths, so while it wasn't at the same time I played both versions of the game enough. I also have other accounts that agree with me.

Honestly I have no reason to lie about PS3 version having jagged edges. If I was getting a money hat from Microsoft my website would certainly look better than it does. Hell, despite the jagged edges I'm still buying the Playstation 3 version of the game. If anything I would be hoping for the PS3 version to look better.

Honestly you're right, I should have taken pictures, but we don't call ourselves "The Broke Gamers" at GamingVice for no reason, we had a shortage of cameras and battery life due to lack of funds.

[lloyd_wonder]

I'm not calling you a liar, but I don't agree about this being credible.

[97gsx]

You had a reason to lie. The fact that you made an article stating that it would be equal to the ps3.
Quote,
"I wrote a previous article listing facts as to how the once exclusive title could easily be rendered on the 360 with no problems.Of course not being in a position of authority my fact sheet in all of its factual glory was swiftly ignored, simply because a developer said one sentence that did not at all contradict my list of specs. This only goes to show that most people are too quick to take words as gospel instead of checking information for themselves."

You sound a little butthurt. Anyway the 360 is a wonderful system which I have 2 of. But stating the 360 version will be better when the arcade edition was based on Ps3 hardware is hard to believe

[Coolrah]

Seriously who does....Cept for the fans of the series this is not even relevant. Its probaly only noticeable if someone picks and pokes at it and looks it over with a microscope. And seriously I "personally" don't think fighting games have much replayability. I mean yeah you unlock all the characters and costumes and whatever else there is but really only die hard fans take the time to do it. And alot of times the multiplayer is laggy and plagued by people with bad connections..Seriously I don't see the big fuss about these games.

[MADPIRAHNA]

dont understand the claim where an arena fighter couldnt be done on 360. That could be done on my phone and still look decent.. Just confused.

[mcm]

All I want to know is if the PS3 version looks identical to the arcade version?

In fact does both the 360 and PS3 versions look identical to the arcade?

If the answer is no then we know what happened.

If the 360 version looks better than the arcade then we have a real winner.

If the PS3 version looks worse than the Arcade then we know what happened.

No way around those questions.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

Has anyone seen Kratos ripping off someone's head?

[clintos59]

Both versions still look crap graphically compare to many other games on both systems. Must be the devs fault because last time I remember gears of war 1 and uncharted 1 looked way better then this game and those games came out a few years ago lol. Comeback when your engine is capable of those graphics.

[DNAgent]

It looks like a last gen game. I'll be waiting for real fighter, not a button masher where terrible designed explosions show up whenever you hit someone. Tekken hasn't been good since Tekken Tag & I even bought Tekken 5 to try and get me back into the series but it sucked and now I regret buying it.

[-MD-]

Are you fat in real life?

[Hiruma Youchi]

loll Murder Bubble++

[FamilyGuy]

From the rest of your comment it seems that you HAVE played the game but Tekken is about as far from a "button masher" as a fighting game can get. You try playing that game simply mashing buttons and you won't get far.

Other than that:
I don't like that they're still doing those fireball explosions for every hit though it's been part of the series forever so i didn't truly expect that to change.
Another thing would be it STILL not having true collision detection. You hit someone into the air but when you juggle them it's as if you're simply hitting a block giving no real meaning behind where a hit actually lands.

[caladbolg777]

He might be. Are you a phuckhead in real life too or is that just your online persona?

See, Murder, this is the Open Zone. Isn't it fun?

[-MD-]

I assume you're obese mostly because you seem to be the only one offended. It's alright just carry your thick pale body outside and work up a sweat.

c wat i did thurr?

[caladbolg777]

No?

[DNAgent]

Yeah. I'm also purple & I am a genie except I don't grant wishes.

[-MD-]

Rough life?

[DNAgent]

I was trapped in an urn for 400 years.

[Gitaroo]

360 version has anti aliasing and probably render at a higher res.

[TheBand1t]

.

[TheBand1t]

I don't care if the PS3 version has some jaggies.

I consider it a trade off for a superior D-pad :)

[-MD-]

You use a controller when playing fighting games?

[TheBand1t]

I only buy specialized controllers for two gaming genres - Flight sims and driving sims.

So yea, I do. Have a problem with it, chucklehead?

[-MD-]

Chucklehead? Are we back in second grade?

LMFAO

[TheBand1t]

Okay, asshole. You didn't answer my question.

ROFL.

[-MD-]

Oh you really wanted an answer to that? Sweet question bro.

Yeah I have a problem I'm extremely angry you use controllers for fighting games I'm gonna go on a rampage right about now because of it.

No really though you're bad at this just stop.

lawlercopter

[KampferZeon]

How many of you here knows the Tekken 6 arcade machine is actually a PS3. It has the same exact hardware, Cell SPU + SPE + the same Nvidia GPU.

The PS3 will have the same look and behave exactly the same as the arcade version, there is no porting. On the other hand, a rewrite of code may be necessary to get Tekken 6 to run on 360.

The PS3 version is preferred because it is the arcade version. The 360 version is the console version. If you like the arcade, you should get PS3.

[commodore64]

I'll have the superior 360 port.

Funny how the game was designed on ps3 first and then ported to 360.
Yet, it looks better on the 360.

Makes me wonder how many other multiplats were gimped down so they could run on the ps3 too....

[TheLaughingMan]

seriously is everyone complete idiots. The arcade cabinet is a ps3 inside and its way superior then the 360. They've already made Tekken 6 for the PS3 practically. The 360 can't match the cells processors that is already proven. So how is it so superior?
At 16 Do you not read anything they don't give multiplatforms the best dev kits notice how all the exclusives look way better on the ps3? Yeah lets not think about the fact that the 360 is reaching its max and the ps3 is just starting. This isn't fanboyism this is factual evidence.

I swear most of these kids on here are so ignorant.scratch that....they're stupid

We're talking about a system that is backed up by IBM with the cell processors but I bet not a single one of you know anything about IBM.So I'm sure your thoughts are what does IBM know.

Who cares that the cells can get to 240 FPS, that the overall running power of a PS3 is greater or that it has a less failure rate.
Because in your eyes those things don't matter.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose but stupidity is a whole other matter. Good luck with life you guys.

[KampferZeon]

To commodore64,

I remember the days when people just want a arcade replicate on their consoles. Getting the PS3 version is the only way to do that.

But fine by mine, if you buy the 360 version as the developer is still getting a sale. But by your logic, I guess you play games like Mass Effect, GTA4 only on your PC?

[kaveti6616]

Um, sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken. That's still not factual evidence, it's fanboyism.

Your asking if anyone knows about IBM and the power of the cell? Yes, I know about IBM and the power of the cell. And from what I heard IBM say, the two consoles which IBM helped design have the same amount of power.

You see, when I throw in the names of prestigious companies like IBM I try to make sure that what they said actually supports what I'm trying to say. Get over it, it doesn't matter how many great-looking games the PS3 makes, you cannot use those games as evidence to say that the PS3 hardware blows the 360 hardware out of the water.

They both have the same capabilities, okay? Why not just rejoice at the fact that your PS3 is about to have a plethora of great AAA exclusives? Go read up what the guys at IBM had to say about the PS3 and 360 specs and you may just be enlightened.

[commodore64]

So Yeah..... kaempferzeon and laughing man have missed the point.

The arcade game was built on on ps3 hardware, from the ground up.
It is, undisputably, built to run on ps3 hardware.
Logically, the game should run best on PS3.

Despite this, it runs better and looks better on the 360.
Fancy that, a port of native ps3 code that runs better on the 360 hardware!

Doesn't that tell you something, kids?

Pssst!... here's a hint... it's not what Sony's marketing dept wants you to believe.

;)

[Pistolero]

exactly for that reason we know PS3 is not as powerful as 360...sony lie to tell us that but it cannot be true.

[kaveti6616]

At least Sony is actually taking full advantage of its power with its exclusives. Like I said before, both consoles are pretty much dead even in capabilities. If there's anything the PS3 can't do off the bat that the 360 does like AA, Sony devs can find a solution to it and make it even. Same with the 360. But the difference is that Microsoft is not taking full advantage of the 360s power, so when they actually start doing that, then you MS fanboys can put in a word or two. But as of right now, the only thing you should say is that both consoles are equal in capability.

[spunnups]

If the game had been properly made on the PS3, the 360 port should not have been able to surpass it.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

the PS3 is so powerful, it should run this game, and all others better. The Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and it showed in the games. Why is it that PS3 cannot do the same since it is so "incredibly powerful"?

Make the awesome version on the PS3, and make a separate dumbed down version for the 360 if the PS3 is so far superior, why gimp?

Ill tell you why, because PS3 is NOT more powerful, it is handicapped at running game code compared to 360, and only exclusives will look better on PS3 because Sony pays for all the extra time and effort it takes to get a game to look halfway decent on that glorified bluray player.

[SaberEdge]

If after two and a half years multiplatform games are still looking/performing better on the 360 there is no way in hell that the PS3 is more powerful. If it was anywhere near as powerful as the PS3 fanboys build it up to be it should EASILY be able to show better performance on multiplatform titles.

The vast majority of PS3 exclusives are no better looking either. Only two exclusives could arguably be considered to look marginally better than what's on the 360 (Uncharted and Killzone 2), which is too few to really prove anything at all. Both of those developers are obviously very technically talented and Sony is on a crusade to try to prove their console is the most powerful. And that, more than anything, probably has to do with why those two games look as good as they do. But again, they are only marginally better looking and even that is debatable.

If you add up all the games on both consoles, multiplatform and exclusives alike, it is the 360 that actually has the better graphics and performance in general.

[INehalemEXI]

/facepalm

[steck67]

You do realise that not all multiplats look better on the 360, right? Basically what i'm trying to get at is that multiplats dont really show the consoles inner power. Compare Uncharted and Gears of War to Call of Duty and Fallout 3, and Gran Turismo HD Concept to Grid. Obviously the exclusives LOOK better.

[Ichiryoka]

Since you took it upon yourself to name two games which graphically surpass anything on 360, I'll help you out and name three more.

There is denying that GodofWar3,The Last Guardian, and Gran Turismo 5 fits in that category as well. The feathers on that animal in The Last guardian, unbelievable, and GOW3 speaks for itself.

Its kind of funny how 360 fans are trying to make a bigh deal out of this game that looks no where near as good as MGS4. I say keep your better looking multi platform games, but until theres something on 360 that rivals the graphics od KZ2 GOW3 or Uncharted 2, with the same amount of action going on at one moment, I say you can disagree and be in denial all you want but that will not make the games go awau nor wil it out a game on 360 that rivals them. Now disagree away while you think in your head hes right but I'm going to disagree out of soite.

I laugh at your feeble attempts of an argument over a multi-platform game that hardly looks better than soul calibur 2, hecj doa4 looks better than tekken 6.

[SaberEdge]

Actually, I disagree. The Last Guardian looks gorgeous, but until I see actual gameplay footage of the character running around doing normal stuff it makes no sense to compare it. The engine seems impressive and the artistic merit is strong, but so much is still unknown at this point (one of my most anticipated games by the way).

GT5 is in the same boat. None of the trailers I have seen for the game show what I would call pure gameplay and so you can't judge it yet. All I know is that I have played GT5P and the new gameplay videos of Forza 3 lead me to believe that Forza 3 is the better looking game.

Now on to God of war...a pretty game, no doubt. But there is nothing about it that makes me think it couldn't be done on the 360. In fact, some of the animations and stuff seem almost last-gen. Don't get me wrong, it is a beautiful game, but not quite as cutting edge as some of you believe.

It's also funny how you seem completely oblivious to how graphically impressive games like Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction and Mass Effect 2 were. All of those games, in their own ways, are technically and graphically among the best available on consoles.

Oh, one more thing. If Tekken 6 had remained a PS3 exclusive I have no doubt many of the PS3 fanboys here would be adding it onto the list of games that supposedly can't be matched on the 360. How funny.

[INehalemEXI]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

whats funnier then this video is the fact I can just play some U2 MP Beta and KZ2 etc. and feel no need to worry about how future ps3 games are going to perform.

[Hiruma Youchi]

Stree Fighter is better anyways.

[Tito08]

I like SF4, but I don't consider it any better than the previous versions, specially 3rd Strike, IDK about Tekken 6 since I haven't played it, but I think it'll b better than SF4, just my opinion!!!

[Rockxy]

I have street fighter 4, and soon I'll have Kof 12, so why the hell would I need this crappy button smashing retards game? PS I have PS3 AND 360 I love my 360 more : )

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

I thought they'd make them the same.I got my 360 after seeing Geow1 footage,I got my ps3 for Tekken 6. But,Im still getting the ps3 ver,purely cuz I prefer that controller for beat em ups

[Godmars290]

The sixth game in a fighters series.

Haven't heard di*k someone buying one for Street Fighter 4.

[Hiruma Youchi]

By the way THe D-pad thing isnt that much of a deal.

You just have to get used to it

PS3 controller is the same since PS1 so I play well with it. But in SF4 since i Always play it on X360 when I play it on my Friends PS3 i get owned because I cant do Sakura's Special but I do it with ease on the X360.

its just a matter of being used to the controller.

[nobiggy]

whataloadofbollocks..

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

Why? Cuz it was exclusive at the time

[commodore64]

end of.

[commodore64]

Guys, all i did was quote the article.

The fact that some of you hit disagree, speaks volumes about your intellect.

[Jok3r]

lol

Tekken 6 built from PS3 hardware and still looks better on 360
That just show how great the GPU are in Xbox 360..

*"Final Fantasy 13 can ONLY be done on PS3"...lol yeah right both versions looks I d e n t i c a l

*"Tekken 6 is made with PS3 Hardware in mind and we dont know if the 360 can handle" said Namco a year ago... lol

[Ichiryoka]

tekken 6 looks like A$$

[LTC]

I'm sorry but FF13 looks better on PS3. I've seen both versions.

[talltony]

and your taking this guys word for it?. if he said the 360 version looked worse with jagged edges then you would ask for proof.

[donnie-2105]

Like most multi platform titles tekken will look marginally better on the xbox 360 as most do.why should this be any different.the ONLY advantage the ps3 will have is the blu ray space for longer cut scenes and possibly more fighters.but id rather have a consistent frame rate and AA although fighters arent the most taxing of games for any machine.which console had the best version of sfiv the 360

[Mr Marbles]

Sony or her fanboys claim something can't be done on 360, it is later proved to be quite possible on 360, this is nothing new, only idiots even believe most of what Sony claims anymore.

[XDF]

Yup, just like FF13, the game runs fine on X360. I like how we are talking about Tekken 6 and PS3 fanboys will bring up Uncharted 2 and GT5 in their defense like it is going out of style.

Remember the GTA series on Xbox and PS2, the Xbox versions totally destroyed the PS2 versions and nothing happen back then because those games are fun, graphics don't matter. But it is all Graphics, 24/7, all day serve on N4G these days. Shaking head, LMFAO

[Tito08]

I don't care if the skin on the 360 looks better than skin on the PS3, or tree 360 better than tree PS3, or street fighter 4 on 360 looks better than sf4 on PS3, all I want is to play the damn games, in my case, I have my controller preference, n I'll get Tekken 6 on PS3 since I'm very used to play Tekken on it, fvck the jaggies or prettiness!!!!

[bylee]

every multiplat looks better on the xbox 360

[Tito08]

Who cares, I don't trust most multiplatofrm games, I buy only a certain amount of multip.. they don't take full advantage of a system, by the way, its pretty easy to developers to create n port games to 360, but one thing for sure, 1rst party PS3 games completely destroys 360 own games, I have both systems, n I have exclusives for each system!!!

[Rob0g0rilla]

He doesn't even have proof. Pictures would be a start, a video would be even better.

[XDF]

Sounds like HHG..but if HHG said anything positive for the PS3, it is the gospel.

[Argento-Nox]

It'll be a day of chaos when FFXIII and Rage come out on multiple disc for the 360 version, I'd hate to see people whine about the 360 not being maxed out, when that comes to pass (-_-);;. Big LOL at the people who don't realize Tekken 6 in the arcade near me uses a PS3 motherboard, meaning the PS3 version will look and play just fine. Tekken 6 will play the same on both platforms, just like SF4, SC4 etc.

[dan_chan89]

pics or it didnt happen

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Typical sony fan response..."Tekken wasn't good anyway"

[Pistolero]

Sour grapes. most games look better on 360 so this is not surprising.

[aaronisbla]

You kinda shot your credibility in the foot with no pics as evidence, not that it matters though, as im doubting some jaggies will hinder the game performance wise, but proof really would have been nice, but for now its just hearsay

[xg-ei8ht]

The last tekken i bought was tekken 3.

So this is where i got lost.

AA makes the game graphically superior.

So let me get this straight, that means if it runs worse, has screen tearing, but has AA it's a winner.

I'll tell you another thing.

You cannot and will not ever need to use FULL SPU's to power a TEKKEN game. Don't make me laugh. Honestly, my stomach is hurting too much now.

I do indeed look at a game like Uncharted 2 and GOD OF WAR 3. And i think to myself, what a wonderful world.

When the game comes out, buy it for whatever console you have.

[saimcheeda]

must be an idiot coz its impossible that a game made on the ps3 looks worse than a port!!!and even if thats possible than Tekken 6=Fail!

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...there is a bit where you look into the Sea and it don't look as nice as Uncharted 1 when you look into the Sea on one of it's Levels(near the Tower, the one you got to climb up) So i have to play a DUM'ED-DOWN Version of RE5 because of the SH!T OUT OF DATE ChatBox 360!!! :-/
Same with GTA4. Thanks M$!!! :-/

+ NO WAY IN HELL is Tekken 6 using PS3's FULL Power anyway!!! ;-D

Oh anyway i only go Tekken 3!!! ;-D Best one i think. I won't be getting this new one. Oh well...

[theox2g7]

i'm not shocked at this, the proof is in the pudding guys, all that sony marketing bullshit is coming back to bite them in the ass, after the lies and deceitful marketing, developers are slowly uncovering the truth that both consoles are just about equal with a few advantages and disadvantages over each other,

While Sony still wants to keep gamers fooled under the notion that the ps3 is so much more powerful than the 360, heck some actually believe it's a full generational leap over the 360, it's becoming more apparent that the 360 is just as capable or even more so in some cases

We're almost going on 3 years since the ps3 has been released, if the ps3 was so much more powerful, how come multiplats either look exactly the same or slightly better on 360? Didn't xbox versions of multiplats run circles around ps2 versions? I guess it didn't matter much back then, And now we have a case where there is no viable excuse to proclaim how the 360 is gimping or dumbing down a game that could've been otherwise superior on superior ps3 hardware lol, the arcade version was practically a ps3 build, built from the ground up to use the SPUs, They needed the extra power to apply a full realtime post processing filter that has never been applied in any fighting game ever, Real time object motion blur is an ambitious feat for a 60 fps and so they had to push ps3 hardware to achieve this, At the beginning, even Namco themselves were under that cloud of 360 inferiority, they were even doubting themselves that the 360 would even be able to handle it in the first place, but alas, with time, the results speak for themselves, The same thing happened with Square Enix, and now we have a fully playable FFXIII build that looks and run 100% identical to the ps3 build which was built to push ps3 hardware

And what do sony and its defense force resort to in these cases? Rely on the most illogical argument of comparing exclusives running on completely different engines by completely different developers, lol, The fact that Sony has the most talented first party developer powerhouse should ring a bell as to why ps3 exclusives usually have better art design and superior overall looks, Microsoft and Nintendo's first party pale in comparison, So it's kind of unfair to judge a console's potential when each company has non comparable resources and developer talent, Even then the 360 managed to churn out one of the best looking games of its time with a third party super dated engine that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of maximizing the 360's potential

The only way to fairly compare both systems is in the multiplatforms, Last gen, even with ps2 as the weakest console, the magicians over at Sony were still able to churn out God of War 2 and Shadow of Collosus which dwarfed exclusives on the slightly more powerful gamecube and rivaled the exclusives of the far superior xbox, but those ps2 exclusives didn't make the ps2 anymore powerful or less powerful than it already was, it just meant the developers were much more skilled, ps2 hardware was still the most inferior by virtue of tech specs and benchmark potential

So again, it's only obvious that with both systems equal in power, ps3 exclusives will still look better, it is less reflective on the actual hardware itself and more reflective on the developer talent, Even then, games like Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Forza 3 and Convinction and even multiplatform Kingdom Under Fire 2 and Lost Planet 2 are beginning to show the 360's impressive graphical capabilities that most doubted would be tapped from Gears of War 2, a game running on one of the most dated multiplatform engines in the industry

I'm 100% sure that if the super talented Guerilla Games, Naughty Dog, ICO and Santa Monica had a crack at 360 hardware, they could work wonders and for all we know even produce better looking exclusives than what we have now from the ps3, It's funny how most ps3 ppl talk about how certain exclusives can't be done on 360 hardware, How can be you be so sure? I'm sure that even 99.9% of said gamers don't even have the slightest clue how development works and that it's all just a marketing technique to give the ps3 a significant competitive advantage, Of course, Sony is not lying when they say only possible on ps3 hardware, but it's a half truth, Microsoft would be just as right as saying Alan Wake is only possible on 360 hardware

Also for the 360 fanboys, 360 isn't more powerful than ps3, heck, it's still using dvd9, not that it would make a difference in graphics but the ps3 is still a beast that can outperform the 360 in specific benchmarks, They just do some things better than each other, Hence, why not every multiplatform is superior on the 360 and some are even slightly better on the ps3, Even Crytek confirms this with their new Cryengine 3

/end rant

[Superduper09]

To be honest, SC4 graphics looks better than T6 graphics. I am kinda disappointed at Namco.

[dp_simbol]

PS3 is superior in terms of graphics or maybe in terms of everything. But why is sony's console is still in the third place.

360 is 8 million units ahead of PS3...WHY?

PS3 fanatics please give me a rational reason? don't even think about mentioning that 360 was released earlier because I already know that.

And it isn't the answer.

[Pootangpie]

Caey posted= Tekken6. Its not a graphical juggernaught anymore, I remember seeing pores on Kazuyas face. Now it looks like 5

If you didn't have your head so far up your ass you would notice that the Home version looks better then the arcade counterpart but yet your just being an ignorant sony ****er because your bitter about the multiplatform move it's funny that you said it was gimped considering the fact that the 360 version looks better I mean if PS3 was the lead platform wouldn't it look better on the PS3 besides It's kind of pathtic you saying the PS3 is more powerful considering that it still has trouble with games being ported from the 360 to the PS3 but yet the 360 has no promblem receiving games ports from the PS3 to either look identical or better

[gusman354]

wow sony girls are gona cry a lot first milo now this and 3rd NPD numbers next month.

[gusman354]

ps3= the superior piece of crap.
xbox 360= the inferior winner.

[magnusum]

only the ps3 version was playable

[kewlkat007]

This was one of those "I told you so's"....Another Strong PS3rd-party brand now just Average...

[CobraKai]

Considering that I myself have not seen both versions running side by side, i'ma gonna take his comments with a grain of salt and a wedge of lime.

I can sit here and say that one version looks superior to the other but without showing people how Nina's camel toe has bump mapping on one version and is just a texture map in the other, people aren't gonna believe me.

Also, why does Tekken have those long ass chain combos that you can't really do in a real match?

[DMasta718]

Doesn't matter. Definitely picking this game up. This game is great

[Silly gameAr]

Just when I didn't think we had anything else to boost about, this happens. I'm dancing my ass off right now.

But in all seriousness, Tekken is going to be that fighting game this fall for the PS3 and 360. I'm glad it looks good running on the 360, but really, the only ones who should be proud is the makers and the people who actually give a damn about Tekken.

Not sad little fanboys crapping their pants right now over this little tidbit of info.

[Silly gameAr]

If you're 12.

[Argento-Nox]

People don't seem to realize that multi-platform games won't be much better/worse on the PS3 than it's 360 counterpart while being poor indicators for graphical superiority on either systems when they're meant to look and play the same on all platforms.

Why are people using multi-platform games as a marker for graphical superiority, when dedicated 1st party games generally have displayed better graphics? Is there even a 3rd party title out there graphically better than 1st party Sony titles like Uncharted, Killzone 2, GT5, etc? It's a pretty telling sign, when 360 fanboys have to resort to crysis PC comparisions to KZ2 etc. (-_-);;.

If we're all comparing PC games to console games, it'd be no competition since PC gaming graphics would always win. Why people bother comparing PC games to home console games is beyond me considering that console games have always been played with a controller while PC has relied on keyboard and mouse. It's an apple and oranges comparison.

If most multi-platform games were made to their full potential, than we'd see a lot more 360 games on multiple disc. That's something people should take into consideration when Rage and FFXIII come out on multiple DVD's for the 360 version, while saying 360 isn't near maxed out (yeah, right!). I really don't see DVD making it to the next console round for HD gaming, unless those 100 layer DVD's come to pass, even than, there'd be huge problems involving layer switchs.