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Bioshock 2 Multiplayer, Does Anyone Care?

DarkZero writes "Today's game industry is a tough market. So much as a few bad scores can make years of development time a waste. Games almost always come packed with new features or promises of future downloadable content, and it's becoming hard to find a game without multiplayer. Now, in no way am I saying that a multiplayer component is at all a bad thing. But every now and then a game strolls along that gives off a strong singleplayer vibe, not only overshadowing the multiplayer content, but ultimately makes you wonder why they bothered to implement it in the first place. BioShock is one of those games."

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AKNAA5462d ago

Lol! naw, I kid, I kid... only about the F-you part.

Omegasyde5462d ago

I care, because the game doesn't need it.

Imagine how great F.E.A.R. 2 would of been without the developers having to divide time and resources to create a crappy multilayer expirience.

I really don't know how plasmids will work in multiplayer, and I also believe that Team Capture the little sister will be corny.

The developers should of added online co-op instead.

King_many_layers5462d ago

I agree with you Omegasyde, BUT only agree if it means that they're splitting their team for this component.
If however they are keeping all those who made BS singleplayer all exclusively on the singleplayer for 2 and employing people for multiplayer then that would be brilliant.

Same thing as Uncharted 2, nobody wants singleplayer gimped, so they employed people specifically.

drdistracto7075462d ago

"Digital Extremes is going to take the reins in the development of multiplayer"

quote from the article

Omegasyde5462d ago

Yes but what if the team is near the deadline or that development money can only be spread around so much.

Thats my theory why Resistance 2 story was crap, and the co-op was half baked.

drdistracto7075462d ago

I completely agree, I dont think multiplayer should even be considered, but I just wanted to make it known that 2K wasnt leading the multiplayer development

Mindboggle5462d ago

I dont care. I also dont care about Uncharted 2 multiplayer. They both had brilliant single player modes, and they have both just added multiplayer to rake in more sales.

Baka-akaB5462d ago

I really dont care for a bioshock multiplayer , thought it could ultimately be awesome .

All i know is eventually all game even solo and story driven are or will be forced to propose some multiplayer , even the most minimalist ones , to secure their sales and fight of the most obvious forms of piracy .

And that includes jrpgs , eventually all of them will do what demon souls or White knight chronicles did .

Plenty games are ignored or resold as used quickly because they lack this little "spark" that would keep peopel on it , once they are done with the story .

Trophies are one , but multiplayer is stronger especially if coupled with trophies.

PrimordialSoupBase5462d ago

Almost as silly as Uncharted's multiplayer.

edgeofblade5462d ago

I care only in as much as they can make a compelling online game. Criticism of a lack of multiplayer doesn't mean ANY multiplayer will increase your scores. It has to make me pine for it when I'm not playing it, and I can't see that coming out of a dev so solely focused on the single player.

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lawrence360x5462d ago

I am getting sick and tired of people like you talking crap about a game that has yet to be released . Who the hell are you to tell 2K not to make a multiplayer component just because you dont want one . Do you even know who is in charge of make Bioshock 2 , If you did you would not jump the gun and trash it . Why dont you put a little more thought into you articles before you post then. I personally welcome the multiplayer component and have all the faith in the world in 2K . They made one the best games of all time and IMO was beat by only one game Fallout 3, so when you ask them not to make it you are only speaking for yourself and not all of the people that are looking forward to the game and everything it comes with . So please when you write an article , make sure you mention that this is only an opinion of yours

King_many_layers5462d ago

I agree that people really should stop with the mocking games before their out bull'

also, did you not find Fallout to get really monotonous after playing through a second time ??

Using the same voice actors throughout with the really boring stand and occasionaly flailing arms made it become a little stale for me in my second playthrough.
Loved the SuperMutants though.

Omegasyde5462d ago

????

You sound pist.

I disagree because some games in the past have actually had the single player expirience suffer with the addition of multiplayer modes.How do we know that the Bio shock 2 single player campaign won't be shortened?

I don't like this new standard in shooters which only take ~4-5 hours to beat the game on normal difficulty, i.e. Cod4, Halo 3, Resistance 2, Fear 2, etc.

I hope the same doesn't go for uncharted 2.

drdistracto7075462d ago

Bioshock has nothing to benefit with multiplayer

the article doesnt bash Bioshock 2 at all either, in fact here is a nice little quote to directly contradict what youve just said...

"It goes without saying that BioShock was an absolute hit, and BioShock 2 is looking to be the next 2K juggernaut."

Please read in detail next time around

Fullish5462d ago

"Bioshock has nothing to benefit with multiplayer "
How can you make that call? Have you played the multiplayer behind our back and not told us?
Just because the atmosphere is unique doesn't mean it shouldn't have multiplayer.

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GamerPS3605462d ago

Multiplayer is killing game's quality more than making :(

crillyconlig5462d ago

similar was said about multiplayer for uncharted2, but thats shapeing to be excelent, but i agree some games dont actually need it.

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Netflix announces Bioshock film in the works

One of the most popular video game franchises of all time is set to receive a Netflix film adaptation, according to an announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

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-Foxtrot816d ago

Gee...can't wait to see how many things they change and stray away from, oh don't forget the miscast actors

Neonridr816d ago

I have such high hopes because the first game is so near and dear to me. That being said, I'm sure they will mess it up. I'm hoping it's adult rated, and violent. I want to see a Big Daddy put that drill to good use :P

camel_toad814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

They're great at butchering stuff but there have also been some gems and surprises.

I never in my life thought I'd like a series based on League of Legends but it was pretty great.

Maybe just maybe they'll do Bioshock justice.

cheetah814d ago

Priority checklist
- Pander to POC
- Pander to woman
- Pander to LGBTQ
- Story

In that order

Silly Mammo814d ago

Damn! It sure sucks when white men aren't the sole focus of everything! Why can't these fringe groups be kept on the fringes like the good ole days?!? /s

senorfartcushion814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

Virgin detector

*****SCREEEECH*****

Vx_814d ago

Remove the story and I totally agree with the list

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senorfartcushion814d ago

You can cast who you want as a director. Don’t be sulky.

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Knightofelemia815d ago

Netflix did well with Dare Devil and the Punisher and I hear the Witcher is pretty good I know when I had Netflix at the time Stranger Things was also good. But Bioshock I love the franchise Bioshock Infinite is my favorite game I would pay the $21 Canadian just to check out Bioshock. Normally I would never renew my Netflix after they did their price hike but Bioshock would be worth it.

LoveSpuds815d ago

When firing on all cinders, Netflix do produce some brilliant stuff so I am not feeling pessimistic at all here. If Netflix deliver to their potential then this could be incredible given the quality of the source material. Personally, I am quite excited.

EvertonFC815d ago

Agreed, Netflix originals etc are fantastic in general, it's rare I don't like something they do.
Certainly not feeling negative with Netflix doing bioshock quite the opposite infact.

Ashunderfire86815d ago (Edited 815d ago )

Bu bu bu bu but what about Cowboy Beebop though? That was a little miss opportunity. Just a little nervous that Bioshock could turn to crap 💩 like that show. If they do a Horizon Zero Dawn show, I hope they don’t screw that up as well. I know a few good actresses that could play Aloy like Jon Snow’s girlfriend from Game of Thrones, and his wife in real life. Definitely see Aloy in her.

Livingthedream815d ago

Netflix does a lot of great things, recently finished the first season of Arcane and it was brilliant.

MadLad815d ago

Arkane was so damn good.
I just hope they keep up the quality with later releases.

I'm not even a LoL player.

Livingthedream814d ago

I’m sure they will, I don’t play the games either, I love the fact that I didn’t need to play them to enjoy it.

Michiel1989814d ago

Arcane was insanely good imo, I was hooked almost all the way. Im not sure of this but i think Netflix didnt have much to do with the production of the show? More like they just bought the rights to have it exclusively on there?

Some of their original shows are really good so im quite hopeful this might turn out to be a good show. Lets hope they wont F it up.

Nacho_Z815d ago

Love Bioshock but I'll prepare myself for the likelihood this will be both crap and a pale imitation of the source material. That covers most video game adaptations and Netflix films.

dumahim815d ago

How many have they done? It sounds like Witcher and Castlevania have done well.

Nacho_Z815d ago

I meant Netflix films in general, there are some good ones but most are average at best in my experience. Castlevania is good but I didn't like The Witcher, although it is successful.

Not sure if there are any live action video game film adaptations on Netflix as yet but they don't have a great track record.

dumahim815d ago

@ Nacho
For movies, I think it’s very difficult to cram he narrative from a 10+ hour game into 2 hours. I think that’s why series are much better suited for video game adaptations. Seems we have a bunch coming up, so we’ll see how well it plays out.

Terry_B815d ago

Why are PS2 and Wii and even the PS Vita tagged?

Atom666815d ago

The Vita tag stung a little bit extra.

Atticus_finch815d ago

Starring Tom Holland I'm guessing.

FlavorLav01815d ago

Haha. Now if it was a Sony movie, very likely

Outlawzz815d ago

Lol the Tom Holland craze is real

Terry_B815d ago

Kevin Nash is going to play the..Big Daddy.

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Ranking the BioShock Games From Worst to Best

The best games are able to create a never-before-seen setting and weave a completely engaging story into its DNA. One series beats almost all others out for its environmental storytelling and narrative: BioShock.

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Inverno987d ago

Infinite better than 2? No way

roadkillers987d ago

IMO Infinite is better than 2... The only thing I remember from 2 is playing as a little sister. It felt too much like Bioshock (which wasn't bad). Infinite was the right stepping stone.

Inverno987d ago

Infinite was a huge step back. It played like a generic fps because it was dumbed down to be an fps and it's not at all the gameplay evolution Bioshock needed. It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries against dumb AI while making you look for health in trash cans cause they removed mechanics that worked in favor for a more action oriented gameplay.
I think people are remembering Infinite all wrong.
It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio.

LucasRuinedChildhood987d ago (Edited 987d ago )

@Inverno

"It was a mindless shooter where story and it's world building took a backseat to repetitive shooting galleries"
Sounds more applicable to Bioshock 2, tbh. B2 has wave-based gameplay where Subject Delta casually goes through large hordes of splicers to protect Little Sisters. C'mon. I still wouldn't call any of the Bioshocks mindless shooters though.

If you want to criticize the lack of the weapon wheel and the replacement of certain mechanics in Infinite in favour of increased mobility (e.g. addition of the sky-hook), fair enough, but the story and world-building of 2 are less memorable, noteworthy and interesting than Infinite by a huge margin. Most people don't even remember much beyond the basic premise of 2 (including any of the characters) because it felt so unnecessary. It's not even close.

"It's story is a mess and it's world isn't as fleshed out as Rapture was in the first Bio." Needing to use Bioshock 1 to criticize Infinite instead of 2 is an admission that 2's story is the weakest.

roadkillers987d ago

@Inverno

I remember it being very imaginative and a breath of fresh air, while still being familiar. The last hour or two was big on shooting.

SegaSaturn669987d ago

Infinite was the most boring and repetitive in terms of gameplay. It lost the suspenseful atmosphere of the first 2

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SonyPS360987d ago (Edited 987d ago )

Am I reading that backwards or are you really shocked that people like infinite more than 2?

Just wanna make sure I have it right because you're literally the first person I've seen say that 2 is better.

Inverno987d ago

I understand 2 is more of the same but I much prefer more of the same than going backwards in terms of gameplay. It wasn't the step in the right direction. But thats just my opinion, I'm not surprised at all. Just to me I much rather the first 2. However what they had planned for Infinite originally sounded very interesting and it sucks we won't ever see it

Concertoine986d ago (Edited 986d ago )

Imo 2 is tied with 1 as my favorite Bioshock. The gameplay is the natural evolution of the first, with more freedom to experiment. The story and locales are more intimate and less grandiose than you would see in a Ken Levine story. I love the atmospheric break of the underwater sections and never understood the hate for them. All 3 games have pacing issues but imo 2’s are less severe. The level design has a lot of ex-Looking Glass alumnis and is generally more open ended.

The endings are more tailored to your moral choices than the other games.

Infinite hedges on a admittedly cool twist that is poorly executed when scrutinized. The gameplay takes a huge step back, it isnt the game that early gameplay and trailers promised. The world is less fleshed out. It was prescient politically and that makes it interesting but otherwise i have no desire to replay it.

Yui_Suzumiya986d ago

2 had better gameplay but 3 had a better story

leahcim987d ago (Edited 987d ago )

Hurts to see the word "worst" related to Bioshock saga.
The 3 games are masterpieces.

ScootaKuH987d ago

Bioshock 2
Bioshock
Bioshock Infinite

That was easy

Rebel_Scum987d ago

oh great. Can’t wait to see the posts of game titles in a ranked order without context as to why.

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BioShock 2's director reveals what could have been a different BioShock

In a podcast with Wassup Conversations, Jordan Thomas, director and the writer of BioShock 2 reveals his initial ideas for a new rapture and how they were shut down by 2K.
"My first proposal was about a little sister, it was playing as a little sister and it was much more horror-oriented pace and about vulnerability, closer to Thief frankly, but I was told no, we want it to be our Gears of War, this need to be a big shooter franchise with an emphasis on the shooter element, and so what I think of the protagonist of a shooter as is a big lumbering sort of porthole on a stick with guns sticking out in front like you’re almost a vehicle."

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plainview10301507d ago

And he also wanted it to be above the sea or in space. What a wasted opportunity.

Nacho_Z1506d ago

It's surprising the game turned out to be good with this guy at the helm. The combat mechanics were actually the biggest improvement in the sequel as much as he wouldn't want to hear that, everything else was inferior.