Why The Nintendo Switch 2 Is a No For Me

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an Opinion Piece covering why they are not on the hype train for the Nintendo Switch 2 and will not be buying a system while recognizing it will appeal to Switch fans.

[Neonridr]

This article reads like it was written by a 15 year old fan boy.

Jesus.

"There are also concerns about the P.R. side of things as their P.R. firm has a history of playing bait and switch (no pun intended) with us and other sites but that does not factor in for me it is simply a mater of I am not a fan of mobile gaming and for me, the Switch 2 is an overpriced and under-powered system compared to my PC and PS5 and I would rather wait and see what is offered by Sony for my next console as I believe there will be far more compelling titles that are going to feature more advanced graphics and online play."

the longest run-on sentence ever.

[Garethvk]

Funny considering most feedback agrees with my points on Facebook and the other platforms. It is also interesting that people who do not agree with a viewpoint opt for personal attacks versus intelligent discourse and valid rebuttals.

[Neonridr]

if this is your article then you need it to come across as less fanboy-ish. You need to be able to take criticisms and not blindly defend your points of view as "matter of fact"

I don't like the Switch 2 because it doesn't have photo-realistic graphics? So I assume you reviewed Astro-Bot very poorly, right? Nintendo has never been in the power game, not since the Gamecube days (and even then the original Xbox was more powerful). Metroid Prime 4 looks awesome, and while it's not going to compete with Halo or Horizon, the visual style looks perfect for the game that it is.

Facebook is a cesspool of conspiracy theorists and online hate, so I wouldn't use that as a valid backing point. People on FB thought that covid was fake and that the vaccines gave you 5G.

You used poor 3rd party representation of the Switch as to why you won't like the Switch 2, which makes no sense as we are seeing plenty of 3rd party games running on the system and looking just fine in the process.

You could have simply said that you weren't getting a Switch 2 because you are a PlayStation gamer, and it would have made more sense than what you wrote. Sorry for bursting your bubble.

[DodoDojo]

I mean Nintendo has taken this route for literally decades now, just seems like an odd reason to write an article about especially when their products don't appeal to you to begin with.

[Profchaos]

That's the thing about those platforms you find users exist in a echo chamber and don't actually see what the rest of the world thinks

[franwex]

That’s due to you seeking validation in other places. Here you will have to try a bit harder. Facebook is an echo chamber social media. This is a video game website.

[Eonjay]

Hey Gareth! Long time no see!

[Knushwood Butt]

You'll find that Neonridr is the first poster in many Nintendo / Switch 2 threads that have a negative slant or set Nintendo up for criticism, trying to get the damage control in before anyone else can comment.

I've noticed it many times over the last few weeks but refrained from commenting until now, as this time it's a grammar police angle.

[Rage77]

Of course most feedback agrees with you, since you targeted the same dumbass fanboys that have plagued this site and many others for years now. If you aren't a Sony sponsored shill then God damn you sure know how to act like one. Is my take too offensive for you? Will i get "canceled" for having "an opposing view"?
ZERO F**ks given. Sick and tired of trying to enjoy gaming and talk to other like minded gamers, but have to wade through waves and waves of you Brainrot Corporate brand headpieces that think that by Catering and Pandering to the Fanboy masses, you wont have your "boat" overturned at some point. There is no reasoning with people like you (or at least who you "support". they have been conditioned over years and years of: "We are the good guys, the coool guys, and we will always give you what you want" You know when was the last time a company adhered to the frame of mind, AND delivered: SEGA and look what happened to them. Sony for years watched how both Nintendo operated and always wanted that crown for themselves, and emplyoyed every dirty tactic in the book (including creating you blind gullible subservients) to reach to this point. Now where has that gotten you? Paying $700 for subpar PC clone that has you playing last gen titles with few embellishments and buying the same remastered game (every time more expensive) for you to gawk over the added res/effects. As far back as PS3, (when you decided xbox was the target) Sony and the PS brand has only left in its wake a legion of zombie trolls that always resides in places like this to spew more BS like its some sort of magic bullet. Dont worry, Sony fans games and new systems will come, Since Switch 2 is coming out soon they will have something to copy (or buy someone to copy) cause they sure as shit cant Create anything. If their life depended on it.

[Profchaos]

@rage77 I'm feeling that about n4g a lot lately conversations are one sided and becoming fairly toxic were no longer posting about the games but seemingly in a perpetual console war.

User engagement seems to have suffered to I've barely engaged and commented on n4g this month and in top 20 in engagement that to me isn't a good sign.

Great articles just don't get approved if they are negative of Sony or pro Xbox this article is a good example it's just flame bait article.

I'm getting so over the hostility on this site after close to 20 years I've never been close to just disengaging.

[ActualWhiteMan]

Well written. I agree with your article 100%.

[DankSinatra]

Lmao "on Facebook and the other platforms". Guy lives in echo chambers and gets mad and when people don't blindly agree with him.

What was stated about your article is completely valid, it's very "look I'm a fanboy!" Mentality and your response validates that. It's funny that when someone like you meets people who do not agree with your point of view, it becomes "personal attacks". It's called criticism.

[MetroidFREAK21]

You use Facebook as a place for validation? That accomplishes quite the opposite

[Dhika]

@Knushwood Butt
"You'll find that Neonridr is the first poster in many Nintendo / Switch 2 threads that have a negative slant or set Nintendo up for criticism, trying to get the damage control in before anyone else can comment."

As if Sony defense force of this site isn't doing the same lol. Whenever there is a negative article of Sony you'll find the same users crying, bitchin', and damage controlling haha. See Concord and PSPlus price increase articles for reference.

[Dhika]

@Rage77
"Sony for years watched how both Nintendo operated and always wanted that crown for themselves, and emplyoyed every dirty tactic in the book (including creating you blind gullible subservients) to reach to this point."

Nintendo is as dirty and anti consumer as they get, don't deny it.
All of you fanboys are hilarious, accusing others for being pathetic fanboys, while you yourselves aren't that different. haha

[Knushwood Butt]

'See Concord and PSPlus price increase articles for reference.'

People were defending Concord? Who?

[DodoDojo]

@Knush
Really? You can go to Neon's comment history and find them speaking positively and negatively about Nintendo, Sony and MS products and decisions, your comment history... not so much.

[Knushwood Butt]

You didn't answer my question.

[DodoDojo]

Look up the Concord beta articles and you'll see.

[Knushwood Butt]

No, I'm not spending time doing that.

You wrote, 'you'll find the same users crying, bitchin', and damage controlling.'.

So call out those same users.

I certainly wasn't defending Concord; had no interest in it and never played it.

[Chuuzuu]

The article that I just read had a period after "not a fan of mobile gaming." The next sentence started with "For me,"
Also, the next part about "wait and see" is in another paragraph. And please, leave Jesus out of it. Thank you

[Si-Fly]

15 years old was a generous estimate.

[FlyingMonkeyCock]

Was thinking the same thing.

[MaximusPrime_]

Good article.

I have zero interest in any of the Nintendo consoles. I view them as family console.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

If you knew some of the adult visual novels on Switch then you're idea would change quickly, lol

[Stwert]

Nintendo has long suffered from that image, not that they do much to try and change it of course, they want to appeal to a very wide age range and family gaming is a large part of their marketing.

Having said that, there’s been no shortage of games you wouldn’t want your kids anywhere near on their platforms for a long time now. The Wii is probably one of the worst offenders for the “family friendly” image and certainly back in the days when hiroshi yamauchi was in charge, he was steadfastly opposed to more mature content.

But the Wii U and Switch have more than their fair share of grown ups games (though even at 50 now I still love me a good few hours playing Mario/Zelda/Mario Kart/Metroid and many more) and the Switch 2, having finally gotten itself to a PS4 level at its worst, will definitely be getting more of the games that simply weren’t possible on the OG Switch, no matter how cut-down they made it. Cyberpunk, Hitman, Doom, Borderlands 4 and even Elden Ring are just a small sampling of games targeted at older players and certainly not what would come under the remit of the old “family console” image Nintendo mistakenly has these days.

Certainly they will still want to draw in the younger gamers and the casual family groups, but they have long since abandoned that as their only/primary target.

[Stwert]

I think, as the author says himself at the end of the article, this system isn’t aimed at him, fair enough. If you prefer PlayStation and PC gaming and flashy graphics over portability and Nintendo first party games, then you are certainly not the target.

Personally I can’t wait to get my hands on it. I have a PS5 Pro, PlayStation Portal, Series X, gaming laptop, Steam Deck and Legion Go in the current generation and I like them all for different reasons.

The Switch 2, much like its predecessor will primarily, but not exclusively, be for Nintendo first party games. Having spent well over 200 hours with Breath of the Wild on Switch, not to mention dozens of other games I’ve really enjoyed at home and away from home, I don’t doubt there will be similarly enjoyable games in the S2 lifetime.

To start, Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion, Donkey Kong Bananza and even Cyberpunk (despite already owning it on 3 other platforms), have all been pre-ordered and Metroid Prime 4 has been a long, long wait but I’m glad it’s almost here.

I enjoy a beautifully rendered, fully ray-traced game world as much the next guy, but hell, I started with Pong in 1978, graphics take a distant second place to enjoyable gameplay to me, then and now.

[Kosic]

I didnt find the switch 1 amazon, its still Nintendo doing what Nintendo does. So after a year of owning my switch it went in a draw and did not get used much.
I much prefer the route of the steam deck, so i don't see myself getting a switch 2 any time soon.

[jznrpg]

I like Nintendo console/handhelds generally. The 2 problems for me is not the console itself but the game prices and the key cards with no games on them. That’s a big turnoff

[Ristul]

Thats my biggest gripe as well, at this point the prices and key cards is a dealbreaker for me. Time will tell how many games are just a key on a card though, I might reconsider down the line if key cards are a minority.

[Stwert]

The prices for *some* games was a bit of a surprise, but not wholly unexpected considering the rest of the gaming industry.

I’ve paid those kinds of prices for PS5 and Series X games many times in the past, so it doesn’t really put me off.

I can however, see how people used to the more affordable prices of Switch 1 games are taken aback by the sharp increase in prices for some games.

As for the KeyCard games, I’m not a fan, I’d rather obviously prefer that if a game can fit on a cartridge, then it should be there. But again, discs with nothing but a license to download a game have been common since the PS4/Xbox One generation, I don’t like it, but it’s better than a solely digital download, or a code in a box.

They at least allow the reselling, loaning, trading of games rather than being tied to your account and only ever playable on your consoles. But it’s a big step back from actual content on a cartridge.

I don’t see myself buying them, purely out of principle. But unfortunately, I don’t think there will be enough of us voting with our wallets to make a blind bit of difference. It hasn’t with any other platform, when was the last time you saw a physical PC game? So I fully expect the Switch 2 to follow on with the rest of the industry in that regard.

[originaljohn]

For me the Switch is awesome and the Switch 2 will continue it's philosophy. I don't have the time I had years ago to sit in front of my TV for hours every night. The hybrid nature of Switch 2 opens up many more opportunities for me to play games connected to a TV or in handheld. I also don't think fancy high fidelity graphics immediately make games better. There's plenty of AAA slop out there but that's not to say I don't like nice looking games, graphics is only one piece of the pie, gameplay is king and Nintendo 1st party rarely fail in that department.

[franwex]

Right. Every gen is the same story. This person will end up buying 2, just like they did with Switch 1.

[northpaws]

What I cannot agree with...

"I have not found the games offered by the Switch very compelling as the Wii U and Switch systems we purchased sat for months gathering dust as after an initial wave of play, the games became very dull for me."

If you don't like Nintendo games, the rest of the points are meaningless.

"Naturally exclusives will be the key and as interesting as a new Mario Kart game to play against our Granddaughter would be, it is not enough to draw me in at the price point."

Playing games with loved one is priceless for me. I enjoy playing PS5 games with my sons, but can't deny that Nintendo has far more family friendly titles.

"I have not seen one announced game for the system that I would be interested in having even if the price was lower."

Again, this isn't even about the price, if it is lower and you still wouldn't want it, why would you want it when it is more expensive?

You article can be summarized into one sentence:
"I don't like their games, I am not getting switch 2"

I don't like the weaker hardware, I would want things to be cheaper, but I am getting it day one, because I like the games.

Not bashing the article in anyways, just find it strange why you need to list out so many points when you simply don't want to play the games even if it is cheaper.

[Christopher]

Quite a reductive viewpoint I feel. His first point is even about the price of games, which can affected interest in said games as well. He also said the games weren't *as* compelling as past hardware, not that they couldn't be enjoyed for what they were if the price was more reasonable as they were in the past.

You really gloss over an opinion to try and make it only about 'liking' games when even they didn't say they didn't like them.

[northpaws]

@Christopher

You read it wrong.

"as the Wii U and Switch systems we purchased sat for months gathering dust as after an initial wave of play"

He didn't like Wii U and Switch, he said the games became very dull to him after he played for a while they just sat there collecting dust.

He didn't like Wii U, didn't like the Switch and doesn't like Switch 2. All I am saying is, if he has no interested in Nintendo games for few generations, especially when they were cheaper, talking about the increase in price doesn't mean anything, of course they wouldn't be more appealing to him now when it is more expensive.

To be honest, I also hated the weaker hardware approach, and the $10 tutorial...etc, they are greedy, there is no way around it, but I will still be getting it, because I genuinely enjoy some of the Nintendo games, most Zelda games are masterpiece, Mario platforming is still top notch (that's why I want to get the new Donkey Kong game as well), Mario Kart is always fun. Games are expensive now, and so are eggs and milk, everything is expensive.

[Christopher]

*** He didn't like Wii U and Switch, he said the games became very dull to him after he played for a while they just sat there collecting dust. ***

You read it wrong. He bought into those because of the initial games, but they stopped providing the good games they initially had. This isn't about not liking the games, it's about Nintendo not supporting the devices with the games they did like after the initial slew of games.

You're trying to soundbite the entire argument to make your point stick. That's now how that works. This isn't politics.

***He didn't like Wii U, didn't like the Switch and doesn't like Switch 2. ***

So reductive. You've distilled an argument laid out before you to nothing more than a like or don't like metric when they present so much more information to you.

***To be honest, I also hated the weaker hardware approach, and the $10 tutorial...etc, they are greedy, there is no way around it, ***

You repeat this like it's a script you're reading. You said the exact same thing in your first comment and you parrot it here when no one is talking about your opinion of the Switch 2 but your choice to ignore much of the author's comments and make it to be "he doesn't like it" rather than the words presented.

[UltimateOwnage]

Switch 1 is my favorite console of all time and I’ve collected the largest library for it vs all of my other consoles. The hybrid design and the “good enough” graphics have given me exactly what I need at this point in my life around work and travel. I’m really glad they stuck with that design.

Personally, I’m not very hyped about Switch 2 due to higher prices and the “game key cards” 3rd parties are already abusing. But mostly I’m not hyped because it’s predictable and “just” more Switch, which is fine. I’m just happy that it’s a significantly upgraded version of a system I love that found a bigger presence in my gaming life than any before it.

The SteamDeck has taken most of the spot that Switch held for me in the last few years, largely due to Switch being a bit out of dat. Switch 2 will help level out my playtime again. Personally I don’t expect to have as many digital Switch 2 games as games on SteamDeck, but I expect to buy far more optimized / physical / 1st party games on Switch 2 than PS5 going forward.

Switch 2 will be around for 5-7 more years and is going to be just fine. The games make the system, and that’s not changed. Nintendo always brings the games. June 5th is going to be a great day.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

My Switch hasn’t been used in probably a year or more. I’ll get a Switch 2 simply because I’m a gamer and I buy all new consoles that release but i think Switch 2 will be the first console that I don’t get on Launch day.

I’m just not into Nintendo games as much anymore with the exception of Metroid and Zelda. I’ll probably pick it up sometime around Xmas. I have no doubt that the Switch 2 will be an instant hit but with my current back log of games I just don’t care to invest in one right now.

[franwex]

I’ve felt like that since Xbox 360 and PS3. With Xbox 360 essentially waiting for Halo 3 or GTA4 and PS3 for MGS4 or GTA4. (I was basically eager for GTA4 that gen like how many are waiting for GTA6 now)I now get the consoles sometime later. This gen really cemented that there’s really no need to get a console during launch.

[repsahj]

While you are complaining, I will enjoy playing Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion, and TotK Switch 2 Edition on launch day.

[MocBistro]

I've just canceled PS Plus Subscription after they raised the price significantly. PS5 mightbe my last console. Everything just getting too expensive.

[hiawa23]

I was excited for the Switch 2 before they started releasing details on just about everything about it, so I think at launch I will just stick with the original. I have all of the first party games on my current Switch. It never leaves the dock and I have completed none of them. My backlog is so huge right now, I have started clearing some of those games, but I hope the S2 does well for Nintendo.

[Rage77]

@profchaos I dont like to openly vent like that man, but i agree with you, ive been a "lurker" here for years without posting/engaging from back when the WII/360/PS3 days. back then its was one side towards PS fans because 360 was leading for a good bit, so that was trolling after stupid comment, while passionate talk about the "games" they were "fighting" for got lost to: "my plastic is better than your plastic" retardation. But even back then it was "college level" trolling, still good for a few laughs and then grating AF. But now, FFS its going backwards in time and it amounts to "goo goo daa daa" shit. Everything from making up shit on the spot, to gaslighting everybody for not agreeing with their spiel.
Man, sometimes i wish i hadnt been around for so long just to forget some of it TBH. There is a difference between "growing old" and "maturing". I hope (since im old enough, to not expect bright future down the line) that this and further generations correct course, cause if not you wont leave anything standing to fight over for.

[Profchaos]

Am I the only one that feels like n4g is more grumpy old gamers complain about games these days

[ActualWhiteMan]

Im not, it’s a no brainer as to why it’s not worth it. I barely played my switch. Bring out a GameCube 2 with a real online system and 3rd party game support and we’ll talk.

[anast]

It's a good system for people that like family entertainment or JRPGs. But the quality of their products feel really cheap.

[Rage77]

I would say people who like great games. But that doesn't count nowadays.
That's why i settled for a Nice 4090 build i made in 2023 and play the few good Sony games and Xbox titles there
and buy my Nintendo hardware for their games and for 3rd parties that dont get lazy and put effort. Win/win.

[Elda]

I'm going to wait. I barely played my Switch with only 4 games which were Bayonetta 3, Super Mario RPG, Astral Chain & Metroid Dread. When I see several Switch 2 exclusive action games that peak my interest then I may buy one.

[xenz]

I’d maybe buy one if it was priced at 199 dollars. That hardware is worth less than that tbh.

[spoonard]

I'm not getting a Switch 2.

[RedDevils]

I only get it to mod it, other than that it just an overprice plastic just like apple iPhone.