Dragon Age veteran says Baldur’s Gate 3 probably won’t change the games industry the way we want

Dragon Age veteran Mark Darrah claims Baldur's Gate 3 won't change the game's industry as much as it should.

[Armaggedon]

BG3 is great, but people overestimate it too greatly. Crpgs are the ones that should worry about matching it. Other genres and sub genres , not so much.

[anast]

I won't change the industry because the talent isn't there. The talent is concentrated in a few companies: Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, Larian, Kojima's team, FromSoft, CDPR, Sony Studios, and R*. Ubi has talent but their games get chopped up. This is about it. The rest peaks out at Fornite knock-offs and the occasional jank RPG without the "R".

[Armaggedon]

Strange perception people have. Confusion of “lack of talent” with consumer interest. Alot of games that “arent good enough”, are just people not liking what the games are doing. The problem wont be fixed until the truth of the issues are understood.

[anast]

It's not strange. The games aren't good enough.

[Armaggedon]

Are you sure. Maybe the people saying the games arent good enough, are the ones that are actually not good enough. Not understanding enough…not patient enough….not enough insight maybe?

[PapaBop]

The talent is definitely there, it's the higher ups who aren't making use of their talent where the problem lays. Many of the big ones like EA and Ubi would never make something like Baldurs Gate 3 because they'd deem it too risky and generally would rather play it safe.

Further proof of the talent, look at how China are doing these days. Black Myth Wukong came out of nowhere. Phantom Blade Zero also looks absolutely insane. Then you have the rise of Korean developers like Shift Up who made Stellar Blade. The talent is definitely there but too many of the bigger companies would rather play it safe than innovate.

[anast]

The talent really isn't there. There are too many games released in proportion to the existing talent. The games you mentioned are good to above average.

[Michiel1989]

what kinda weird, bullshit comment is this. There are so many studios that are amazing and produce amazing games, do you ever play a non AAA game? you have absolutely no idea about studios outside of the ones that release AAA games on sony consoles. Megacrit, Riot, Valve, Bethesda, GGG, supermassive games, atlus, dragon quest team, supergiant games, Toby Fox, Concerned Ape, Klei Games, Red Hook studios, Team Cherry, lot of the devolver digital studios, Superhot and many more that I can't think of at the moment.

[anast]

Team Cherry is not changing the industry (I like Hollow Knight) nor is GGG. The rest of the companies you mentioned are average at best with Bethesda falling well below the industry standard.

[Michiel1989]

"The talent is concentrated in a few companies: Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, Larian, Kojima's team, FromSoft, CDPR, Sony Studios, and R*" 0 respect for extremely talented devs that dont throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a game because they let themselves be bought out by Sony or any other megacorpo.

but besides that GGG changed the landscape of ARPG's completely, i know i know. you dont play them so you dont think its important, but that's irrelevant. I barely play sony games anymore cause im bored of 3rd person action games so I can make the same point that they don't impact anything, but I won't because I know that outside of the games that I play, other games exist (that are really good).
GGG changed how arpgs get developed, that you cant just get away with slapping a seasonal theme on something and calling it a day. You can notice this in almost every arpg that's come after it.

[Armaggedon]

@Michiel1989

Anast is blinded by perception. Their idea of what would pass as “talent” or a “good enough” game, is all based upon a specific taste or preference. Its causing willful dismissiveness of many other games and studios.

The thing that changes the industry is not games, but the people playing them. There can be something revolutionary that comes out, but if people dont give their energy and attention to it, guess what happens?

[Armaggedon]

@Anast
It’s your perception. You fail to realize that. Just because there are alot of people that think BG3 is the pinnacle does not mean they understand, or that they are correct.

[badz149]

Yeah just look at Nintendo. The New MKW can easily be mistaken for MK8D but they are charging $80 for it

[Michiel1989]

if you're Stevie Wonder maybe

[jjb1981]

Or Ray Charles.