Starfield Fans Displeased As Paid Mods Becomes Increasingly Likely

Starfield fans believe paid mods are on the horizon after the introduction of Skyrim's new 'Bethesda Game Studios Creations'.

[Terry_B]

Yup..and if Microsoft is successful with it, they will use it for more games and other companies will as well. Bravo @ Xbox /Microsoft supporters. :I

[Obscure_Observer]

"Yup..and if Microsoft is successful with it, they will use it for more games and other companies will as well. Bravo @ Xbox /Microsoft supporters. :I"

This is Bethesda´s decision, genius. MS has nothing to do with it.

Besides, mods don´t deserve to get paid for their work?

When its Sony feeding you a remaster from a three years old game and charge you 10 dollars for an upgrade, its all fair and just, because the developers deserves to be paid for their work.

I see, the goalposts has been moved yet again. Bethesda bad, Naughty Dog good.

Gotta love that sweet hypocrisy.

[just_looken]

I like its always about that $10 upgrade but not the msrp at $70 also they have both listed last i checked so one wrong click you can get the wrong version.

Heaven forbid sony lowered there digital msrp prices years later on games but that would be for the gamers this sony 2018+ is for the suit's.

[EvertonFC]

We don't mind paying £10 for an remaster upgrade pmsl, Dev and employees need paying you know, it's not free to create/make a remaster you dummy.
I take you wouldn't charge anything then lay off all you're employees who are out of work cause your studio went bust.

[badz149]

are you seriously defending paid mods right now? are you dumb?!

[Terry_B]

oof. I would reply to that comment if it was from someone else. But you are just a lost case.

[Vengeance1138]

Ohhhh boy, defending paid mods are we? Yikes! Another new low for Obscure.

[S2Killinit]

MS’s Gaas-focus is how they want to pay for the acquisition they paid 70 BILLION for.

Now xbox gamers have to foot the bill yall.

[Obscure_Observer]

@EvertonFC

"I take you wouldn't charge anything then lay off all you're employees who are out of work cause your studio went bust."

BS!

Nowadays, Naughty Dog is nothing but a lazy dev studio! Since they got absolutely nothing for the current generation, they gonna release a freak remaster before Factions 2, which was supposed to be TLOU 2´s MP!

Now trapped into development hell, they chose the easy route release and this crap to cash in!

Many independent third party developers like CDPR delivered next gen upgrades for free! For all platforms! Nobody got fired. Nobody!

Sony is the one company pushing for this scam! For all of its first party games!

So spare me from your lying narrative that ND (or any PS studio) is at risk and gone bankrupt in case they don´t nickel-and-diming you to hell. You´re fooling not other but yourself.

[dumahim]

"Besides, mods don´t deserve to get paid for their work?"
...

A mod is a set of files. How would one pay some files? You mean the people who create those mods? Sure, they can get paid if they want. See the guy who did one of the DLSS mods. Bethesda now wants to step in and collect the money themselves and give the creator a cut.

The rest of your comment is a sad attempt at a Strawman argument that doesn't even make sense.

[Christopher]

***This is Bethesda´s decision, genius. MS has nothing to do with it. ***

When are they going to announce that Bethesda bought Microsoft?

***I see, the goalposts has been moved yet again. Bethesda bad, Naughty Dog good. ***

You're not the one that should make this argument.

[Mr_cheese]

It's interesting that you call Naughty Dog a lazy developer when you know little to nothing about the projects they're working on that aren't announced.

So it's okay for Bethesda to re-release skyrim across 3 generations and take their sweet time delivering their next title.

It's okay for rockstar games to release across 3 generations and take their sweet time on the next installment.

It's not lazy, it's quiet work until they're ready to show

[MrBaskerville]

Maybe people are ok with the 10$ because they get a lot more than just visual upgrades? It's almost as if you pay for the dlc and get the remaster as a bonus

[shinoff2183]

Just looken,I think Nintendo is the company you should have issue with. Their first party games never drop in price. You can find Sony first party titles on sale all the time. Same as ms. Nintendo is the only one who don't drop the prices

[recoctimocassirnff]

This is ms's decision, genius. Bethesda has nothing to do with it. If ms wanted to fire the entire staff of beth they could.

And thanks to people like you supporting these acquisitions, ms has to recoup their investment, so paid mods will most definitely be a thing.

Obscure, don't you ever get tired of being completely wrong? I mean, you're not just a little wrong, you are the complete opposite of the truth is almost every single one of your posts.

[Angyobangyo]

No hypocrisy. You didn't even more the goalposts, you completely switched them. You tried turning into a Sony thing and said, look what they're doing, so leave Xbox-kun alone! FYI, I don't agree with remastering titles that are 3 years old or charging extra to upgrade, and think many don't asv well. The topic is about the Creation Club, which was met with the backlash from the actual modding community in 2015 to which it was binned within a week. But somehow Bethesda felt it would be a good time to drag back that corpse.

[jjb1981]

This is a completely stupid comparison. Mods have been unpaid for years with an option to support them. They are taking money for other modder's work and calling it their own. There is a huge difference . A remaster and mods are not even the same you dolt.

[just_looken]

This system was in fallout 4 then skyrim well before ms showed up.

Now destiny being purchased by sony then sony raising cost of everything followed by worse content along with there continued support for there overpriced ps5 along with the ps portal that requires a psn account to use that is a bad trend.

Paid mods is only good by donation i would not mind tossing a buck whatever i can some mods having amazing about of work done on them but $10-$30 not thank you.

[Zeref]

You're mad at them for letting their creators, who put their blood sweat and tears in these mods make money from them?

[Andrew336]

Yes. Because anything related to MS is bad on this trash site.

[Christopher]

Mad that Bethesda will get a cut from the work of modders. This isn't about paying modders, it's about another revenue stream from them doing absolutely nothing but integrating a credit card reader into it.

If you want the makers of mods to get paid, go to Nexus and donate to them. The system already exists.

[Zeref]

@Christopher
So this is a whole bunch of nothing then?
If the creators don't like it they can still use Nexus Mods.

[Christopher]

*** If the creators don't like it they can still use Nexus Mods. ***

The issue here is if they block modders that aren't on their system, which is likely what's to happen when they see another revenue stream.

See: Starfield has no official mod support and is planned for 2024... right after this news that Skyrim mods are getting paid integration and Bethesda gets a cut of it.

*** So this is a whole bunch of nothing then? ***

Then why is Bethesda putting so much effort into it? It's not nothing, that's the point. You're not thinking that this is a benevolent act of Bethesda are you? Why? They're a company. They're about profits. Why would you think that? Stop it.

[Zeref]

@Christopher

They're not removing support for Nexus Mods. Therefore your whole argument is moot.
You're just making stuff up to be mad about.

[Christopher]

***They're not removing support for Nexus Mods. Therefore your whole argument is moot. ***

There literally isn't full mod support right now.

I'm making things up? Read a history book.

"The previous attempt to launch paid mods was disastrous because many modders operate on the assumption that they're participating in a gift economy, devoting their time for free to create something for others to enjoy with the understanding that everyone else is doing the same. This is a social contract, one that is instantly broken if someone chooses to sell their work. Similar controversies arise in fan fiction communities when an author finds a publishing deal and their work is suddenly yoinked from fic repository AO3 over night.

It's worse in gaming communities, too, because mods are often technically dependent on the work of other mods. If one creator pulls their previously free work to place it behind a paywall, a lot of other mods can be rendered unplayable. It also substantially disincentivises generosity within the community so that shared resources designed for other modders to build upon - such as SKSE, but also texture packs and so on - become less common."

[isarai]

There's already a way to pay them via donations through their mod profile on mod DB or Nexus. Bethesda doesn't deserve to make money off of other people's blood sweat and tears in these mods.

[FGHFGHFGH]

A lot of mod creators are against this. The Skyrim update basically broke a bunch of mods. Monetizing mods isn't good because a lot of mods use other peoples work. This will only be good for a few modders (MS or BGS certified) but will hurt the mod community. You'll be paying for the most basic mods like weapons or player houses. I think they were charging $6 for the gun and $7 for a player home. That's not gonna work when people run hundreds of mods with skyrim, and mods like TES Apotheosis or Fallout London won't be possible because Microsoft won't let them put mods up like that for free(for console). If they mess up the next Elder Scrolls, they are done

[neutralgamer1992]

would we all be talking about this game if it wasn't an xbox exclusive? what i mean is i bought a XSX for this game and no doubt it didn't live up for me. So if this game was available on all platforms there wouldn't be many defending this game because its MID. but that's the reality where neither playstation nor xbox fans will ever admit their platform has issues or if an exclusive is average

[Luc20]

Mods on nexusmods are work of passion and you can donate to the creator if you want to. This 'great' new idea is to put mods behind a paywall where they creators get a small % in royalties. I doubt PC community will support this when there are free alternatives ( didn't MS try to charge for GFWL?). As for consoles .. there won't be free options.

[just_looken]

That is correct games like gtaiv needed a xbox account for GFWL that needed xbox gold to play online it died quick. But this idea about mods was on fallout 4 skyrim for consoles it was successful there.

[Luc20]

Fair enough. Haven't played these on PC. Got Follout las Vegas on sale and download a few mods from nexus. Not sure I'd pay for a mod for an old game.

[recoctimocassirnff]

Unless you want to put American flags in a game, or make a female character a tiny bit more attractive, then nexusmods will nude you from orbit.

[EvertonFC]

What did gamers expect when the games practically free on GP, MS have to make the profit somehow to recoup dev costs.
Surely Xbox gamers can fathom where GP is going to go ffs, it's not rocket science 🤣😂

[BeHunted]

Enjoy your regulation to the Championship.

[The Wood]

Oh ess

Is he really an Evertonian

[EvertonFC]

Even with the points deduction we will be just fine, maybe 14th a the end of the season or 10th when we get some points back. Luton, sheff utd and Burnley will be relegated NOT us

[The Wood]

confirmed ..... definitely a real Everton dude, im a gooner

[Rude-ro]

It is not free on gamepass. You have to pay a subscription to access the game.
Paying for extras on any subscription accessed game is the literal definition of throwing money away and stupidity at the highest level.

[EvertonFC]

Thats why I said practically free, meaning sub fee.

[Rude-ro]

It is not free on gamepass, you have to pay a subscription to access the game.
Paying for extras on a game through a subscription is the literal definition of throwing money away and ignorance at the highest level.

[EvertonFC]

Thats why I said practically free, meaning GP fee needed.

[S2Killinit]

Unreal the shit MS pulls

[recoctimocassirnff]

I gave you an agree, but it's actually very believable what ms is doing.

[BrainSyphoned]

They can't become increasingly likely when they were a sure thing all along. Bethesda has been cruising on the past fumes of greatness and other people's work and passion for a long time. The thing that made thr S.P.E.C.I.A.L died.

Hire some mod creators right now to work on ES6 or it is screwed.

[anast]

They sell you minimum viable product and then make you pay for what they had promised about the product. Howard is making fun of his fans.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Anyone actually surprised?

[ModsDoBetter]

Let's not pretend this is now a new thing due to the acquisition. Fallout 4 & Skyrim both had paid mods via Creation Club since 2017. Well before any acquisition.

It's not a good move to incorporate them into Starfield either as they never were received well; however, just anticipating the braindead bandwagoning that will come and act as if this is new and Phil Spencer's personal decision.

[QuantumMechanic]

Nothing's more popular lately than "gig" business models---enlisting everyday people to do the work while siphoning your finders fee from the transaction. Uber types, GrubHub types, YouTube types, and now game software development... Bonus: you don't have to pay livable wages, offer job security, or provide benefits!

[PRIMORDUS]

You can always go the free route (on PC) and get the game and all DLC for the price of $0.00 😉😉

[Cussing]

Bought it day 1 on steam. The ONLY reason I didn't get a refund was my hope for mods in the future.

[Michiel1989]

didn't bethesda already try this before and failed miserably?

[Christopher]

They'll keep trying until people give them money and just accept it.

[Michiel1989]

Maybe I'm being way too optimistic but I feel like they can't be that dumb to try it again

[Christopher]

If it means they can make more money off of other peoples' work, they'll keep trying until it sticks. Just look at MS abandoning digital only Xbox One... only to move to subscription-based.

[Fonsecap]

As long as we have Nexus and vortex I think we'll be fine... I guess...