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Starfield was 'made to be played for a long time,' but I'm already drifting away

Bethesda's biggest RPG wound up feeling a lot smaller than its earlier ones.

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Vengeance1138391d ago

Still not an excuse for artificially making player progress a snail's pace grind fest. Every moment to moment gameplay segment should matter.
This is just more from Todd "excuse maker" Howard. Todd "It just works" Howard.

Lightning77391d ago

If he's drifting away after month today then the game did its job. DLC is still yet to release along with additional content. This is only the launch phase of SF just like ES and Fall Out.

Btw I keep hearing something about SF is a LS game? It's definitely 100% not a LS game. Never once pitched as such and it literally can't be LS is always online MP experience. I dont know who or why someone on here made that crap up but I'm not surprised someone would.

Obscure_Observer391d ago (Edited 391d ago )

"If he's drifting away after month today then the game did its job"

lol

Exactly! One month later and he is "already" drifting away.

Not to mention that Bozo is the same person who gave Starfield a 7.5 score. Couldn´t stop playing it ever since. Probably spent more than 400 hours into the game.

Certainly another hypocrite that will most definitely come back to Shattered Space. He said that himself.

shinoff2183391d ago

I put 70 80 hours into ff 16 and I'd give it a 7.5 8. That don't make a difference. Starfield for me needs a couple updates. I'll wait on those while I play some other rpgs.

Profchaos390d ago

Bozo that gave it 7.5 that's a bit rough alot of places have it worse

InUrFoxHole390d ago

Needs an update? Are we talking to patch fixes or are saying it needs more content? Because I find the second one laughable.

Obscure_Observer390d ago

@InUrFoxHole

"Needs an update? Are we talking to patch fixes or are saying it needs more content? Because I find the second one laughable."

Exactly! Dude´s want/need more content ASAP! He finished the game 4-5 times and still couldn´t have it enough. He sounds depressed. Dude really don´t want to leave. Lol

shinoff2183

"I put 70 80 hours into ff 16 and I'd give it a 7.5 8."

That´s ok. Call me when you find the time (and interest) to go back to FFXVI and went to several new game+ playthroughs and beat that game 4 or 5 times, like this dude did with Starfield.

After all that, don´t mind me if say that your 7.5 don´t reflect the time and interest that you invested in that game with so many amazing games to play.

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Wintersun616390d ago

So if someone plays a game for a long time, that automatically means they must think the game is great? I've played many average games for lots of hours over the years. That doesn't mean I think they're all great games or deserve 9s and 10s. For exaple Fallout 4 is an average 8 at best and still I've played it for over 400 hours across PS and PC. Also a huge game like Starfield requires lots of play time to be reviewed fairly. If you only play it for 20 hours you don't get so many chances to see the same but slightly altered locations over and over again.

Are you really that mad at someone for scoring it 7.5? Calm down dude that's probably a completely reasonable score for this game.

jwillj2k4390d ago

Well according to the devs it’s mandatory to spend at least 200 hours just to start liking the game.

jwillj2k4390d ago (Edited 390d ago )

You say he spent 400 hours playing it in this post. Then you say he’s beaten the game 5 times in your other post. Well that’s 80 hours a playthrough which is less than the dev team requirement of 200 mandatory hours before finding something to like about the game. Meaning he’s played through the game multiple times in hopes to find some type of enjoyment but has found nothing according the dev teams mandatory 200hr enjoyment requirement. I’d be tired too.

Crows90390d ago

The game is average. People play average games. Doesn't make them less average.

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Obscure_Observer389d ago

@Wintersun616

"For exaple Fallout 4 is an average 8 at best and still I've played it for over 400 hours across PS and PC."

No sure if anyone told you but *8* stands for GREAT game! If you´d spent 400 hours of your life playing a single game, it´s obvious that you were having a GREAT time it.

"Are you really that mad at someone for scoring it 7.5?"

No really, to me its clear that Bozo from PC Gamer just wanted some free clicks over Starfield. No really different from idiots claiming Starfield is bad but never actually play it.

And there´s some butthurt people form channels that ain´t got review codes and now are on some personal crusade against Bethesda.

"Calm down dude that's probably a completely reasonable score for this game."

You won´t known. Still whatever makes your light shine.

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Wintersun616389d ago

@Obscure_Observer

"No sure if anyone told you but *8* stands for GREAT game! If you´d spent 400 hours of your life playing a single game, it´s obvious that you were having a GREAT time it."

People have different opinions about review scores and it's pointless to debate what an 8 means. And how would you know how I enjoyed the game? Sometimes I was bored doing the same-y "help this settlement" missions, other times I was struggling with the obviously unpolished settlement building, the gameplay mechanics and VATS felt like they were 10 years old, I was slightly upset about the dumbed down RPG elements, I was not very impressed with the armor and weapon customization, it could've been so much better. Thank goodness at least that was fixed by mods. The thing is I can sometimes be quite the completionist and I don't often give up on a game. And I didn't play it again on PC after PS because it was so great, but because I wanted to see how much better it would be with all the mods on PC. It was a lot better but some problems were rooted in the very foundations of the game and couldn't be helped. Actually now that I think about it, if I were to review F4, I wouldn't give it more than a 7.

"No really, to me its clear that Bozo from PC Gamer just wanted some free clicks over Starfield. No really different from idiots claiming Starfield is bad but never actually play it."

I don't get it, you say 8 is great, but reviewing it 7.5 is click bait?

"And there´s some butthurt people form channels that ain´t got review codes and now are on some personal crusade against Bethesda."

Is this crusade in the room right now?

"You won´t known. Still whatever makes your light shine."

That's why I said probably. It seems to be in line with what I've seen and heard of the game. Just an educated guess of the ballpark where I think I would end up scoring this game.

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il-JumperMT389d ago

some people like me force our way to finish the game

Flawlessmic390d ago

I drifted after 40-50 hrs, still haven't finished the main story line either.

I'll wait for some updates to come through then go back to it, but for now it's forza then SM2 and AW2 ohh and mario wonder

__SteakDeck__390d ago

Damn. It seems Starfield didn’t live up to your expectations. I remember earlier this year you said Starfield was your most anticipated game.

Flawlessmic390d ago

Nope, and neither is forza atm.

Both good games but far from what they were promised to be let alone better than what's come before them.

Anyways atleast it's given me plenty to play and tide me over until some of the other big releases still to come this year.

SyntheticForm390d ago

As did I.

I was enjoying it, but the loading and overall structure is such a turn off. It's also loaded with woke rubbish throughout.

Crows90390d ago

Glad im not the only one who noticed. Its do dumb. I hate lazy dialogues and starfield has a lot of that throughout. I enjoyed it for about 4-5 hrs. Then I realized...another glorified fetch quest??? At that point I understood that perhaps the main story would do it for me....but it didnt.

I dont expect to come back to this game ever again. Which is a shame. thankfully cyberpunk 2077 exists.

UltimateOwnage390d ago

I’m almost there too after 47 hours. And I don’t expect to return as often over the years as I have with Skyrim on every major platform since the PS3. The RNG aspect is too predictable and the fast travel / loading all the time breaks up an already somewhat barren and slow paced walking experience. It’s a good game but it’s just not up to Bethesda’s typical experience “density” IMO, and that’s left me kind of bored of hoarding and rinse/repeating.

ocelot07390d ago

I gave up may return in a year or so. I just can't get into it at all.

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Skyrim lead designer and Starfield systems designer Bruce Nesmith is looking forward to Starfield 2 as the studio continues to learn.

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HollowIchigo256d ago

Make a great Elder Scrolls game and a great Fallout game then talk to us about Starfield 2.

Obscure_Observer6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

"Make a great Elder Scrolls game and a great Fallout game then talk to us about Starfield 2."

True. But the simple fact that Bethesda confirmed Starfield 2, is nothing but a confirmation that the game was a huge success for them and Microsoft!

MrNinosan6d ago

Bethesda decides themselves.
They have most likely handshaked on making it available on Playstation and promise more open world and less loading screens.

Starfield is one of few console exclusives I like on my Series X, but damn it needs huge changes to ever live up to other Bethesda games.

Obscure_Observer6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@MrNinosan

"Bethesda decides themselves."

Wrong.

The days of independent Bethesda are gone. They´re is part of Xbox Game Studios now. They´ll report to Matt Booty and have their new games and projects greenlit by him.

https://www.eurogamer.net/x...

Dogpool6d ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bethesda consider Starfield a failure. It definitely didn’t shift gamepass numbers nor did it see the sales charts alight.

just_looken6d ago

Yep even though the game was the worst one they made for everything but its technical state it must have made alot of money.

Starfield also has paid quest's along with paid mods who knows how much money they made on those.

So like you said xbox must have seen enough cash rolling in to green light number 2 even though the first one story was a rush job at best. No way i am giving them cash for any other game they will be making unless it in gp or free again with a gpu that is how i got starfield.

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Sonic18816d ago

I'm sure Todd Howard will be retired before Starfield 2 starts early development

Obscure_Observer5d ago

Why would he? Todd Howard is 54 years old.

Brian Fargo (62) was about to retire after Wasteland 3, then changed his mind after MS´s acquisition and now is working on his Steampunk AAA RPG Clockwork Revolution.

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I believe Todd will continue and develop games for as long as he can

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

We all know how long Bethesda takes to make their games. It's an excruciating wait for fans of titles like The Elder Scrolls 6 or another Fallout game which will take years in development. Time will tell though. Starfield 2 will probably come out in 5-7 years from now or longer. Probably after Elders Scrolls 6 and Fallout. I expect these games to take a while as well

babadivad5d ago

My brother loves Starfield. I haven't touched it yet. He almost makes me want to give it a try.

Hotpot5d ago

Yeah, it’ll be what? 2040 release at the earliest?

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RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

that'd be 2036 at best

Rainbowcookie6d ago

You are saying it wrong. It will be when Skyrim remarstered remastered game of the century ultimate edition remastered releases. 😅

just_looken6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Do not forget elder scrolls 6 with 5 ports and fallout live service 76 sequal

MDTunkown6d ago

No, it could also mean it releases before elder scrolls. Since making a sequel with some up to date assets is easier than create a sequel to a game that have been released 2 console generation prior

Alos886d ago

Here's hoping it has better exploration than the first - it's like they took a look at the Mako exploration in Mass Effect 1 and thought "yeah we can make that less interesting"

just_looken6d ago

2005 game has better exploration/star map and ship navigation true also dam sad.

Flenter6d ago

🤣🤣🤣 Bethesda shut up ....

Mr_cheese6d ago

Are we back to N4G pinning it's own submissions again from videolamer?

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Let me save everyone a click. Here are the steps:
1. Open Steam
2. Click on your library
3. Right click on Starfield
4. Click manage
5. Then click uninstall
6. Click yes