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Starfield review - a game about exploration, without exploration - Eurogamer

Eurogamer's review of Starfield, a game of typical Bethesda aptitude but without the magic that binds it all together.

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Jin_Sakai316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

Agreed. Can’t fly to a planet freely without a cutscene, can’t fly to space freely without a cutscene, no land vehicles, and 1km land barriers. Also no real map for exploring a city.

bababooiy316d ago

Dont forget how most things are marked to let you know what to expect, killing any sense of surprise. Turning much of what used to make Bethesda games stand out now into one of its weakest features.

Sonic1881316d ago

Everything you just mentioned, you can do in No Man Sky and that was developed by 15 people. Maybe Bethesda wasn't finished with the game development 🤔

Jin_Sakai316d ago

That and the fact the Creation engine is garbage.

solideagle316d ago

are starfield planets also procedurally generated?

Lightning77316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

No. Todd mentioned it back in June you can't go from planet to planet. So why is this a surprise?

Moans and groans for absolutely no eeason at this point. Shouting in the wind.

shinoff2183316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

I've said that since about 24 hours in. It just doesn't feel finished, from the lack of lore in computers and notes, to no maps. It doesn't feel done or they skimped. I still enjoy it and it's fun but it feels like it's missing something

Lightning just cause he said it doesn't mean it not allowed to be talked about in reviews or commentators comments.

astro_bs-as316d ago

Try it If you can on VR.... It's quite an experience!
Talking about NMS, of course

Andy_Dee315d ago (Edited 315d ago )

I'm still gonna defend Starfield here!

Many mentions NMS and they have no clue that it came on release broken AF.

It has taken them about, might be wrong here 4+ years to get it to where it is now... And people right away after Starfield release are coming out NMS can do this and Starfield cannot..

Well peddle back 4+ years and we'll have another story. We can let modders or Bethesda work on it for 4 years and we can check back then.

Also, Starfield is not a simulator, it's an RPG it's what Bethesda has always done. And IMO it is almost a reskinned Fallout 4 both in good and bad.

However I wish it would be more of an simulator. I hoped it would've been the game to take Star Citizens place while we are waiting for it..

Also, even if I wish they would've had a stronger engine with higher fidelity, I have learned to appreciate Creation Engine 2 in the sense that it seems to be very easy to work in and for the modders.

If they would switch engine it might've been harder in many ways to develop this game and the tools for modders. At least you can use ladders now hahaha. Insane that Creation Engine wan't able to use ladders..

But Starfield is still a beautiful game I have played it on Ultra settings on PC with 92+ fps and it was a blast overall. Story is pretty good with some nice twists. Bethesda has done well here IMO.

I went to about 52 planets. Didn't even get to 100. And the barriers is a non issue, ppl seem to want to find issues in this as well. Why would you want to walk around for couple of hours just to be able to go around the whole planet!?

I don't like regions per se but it works really fast to switch region on the planet and I have found many mysteries, secrets and hidden things without feeling oh no, can't walk further. I haven't even reached a barrier while looking for things and exploring.

I love finding hidden pirate bases, secret ships, legendary items, weapons etc.

Building ships is also a blast, you can do A LOT!

It might not be a game for all but def for some others.

I think this game promised a bit too much but overall it is a great 8/10 game.

I honestly have more fun in this than NMS but that's just me, I like RPG with exploration more than just exploration without objectives and story compared to NMS.

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Lightning77316d ago

https://n4g.com/news/248464...

You're regurgitating old news. That was confirmed months ago ppl didn't seem to have a serious issue with it. Plus you even said you're fine with it. Flip flop inconsistent much?

lucian229316d ago

stop making excuses for poor game design

mkis007316d ago

It turns out it is important. Especially because of the loading screens.

SlothLordPootus316d ago

Just because something was said months ago doesnt mean it makes the game any better. Just means they were setting expectations.

Viljong315d ago

What "1km land barriers" you are lying without playing the game. I usually travel several kilometes to discover structures, natural locations and abandonded mines-huge dungeon caves full of action.

rippermcrip315d ago

The 1km isn't true, but there is a limit. Land and go in a straight line and you will hig a barrier.

Land right next to New Atlantis for example. You can see it. Then head towards it. You can't walk into it.

It is fake terrible exploration.

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Plague-Doctor27316d ago

Really curious to know the reason they withheld review codes from these UK outlets. Gives lots of people reasons to discount the reviews as being biased since they're just "getting back" at Bethesda.

ravens52316d ago

Couldn't pay everyone for 10/10s and 5/5s. Jk... or not, who knows.

porkChop316d ago

It was only UK outlets, right? Doesn't really come across as cherry picking. I'm curious what the reason behind it is. I know they have the acquisition going on in the UK but I don't know how that would affect reviews.

dumahim316d ago

I think one of the big ones that kept getting mentioned as well was Australian.

porkChop316d ago

Australian? Are you sure? I'm asking because I'm looking at a bunch of reports right now and they all say it's exclusively UK-based outlets. Even Pure Xbox didn't get a code on time. Which one was Australian?

RauLeCreuset316d ago

It seems the argument you're trying to make is that review codes not being sent to certain outlets could not be an attempt to influence the Meta score if the codes were withheld from an entire region. Manipulation can be done this way. The manipulator would base which regions to include and exclude based on their predictions of how the reviews from the regions will impact the score. Those predictions could be based historical record (prior reviews) and some knowledge of the weight Meta assigns to certain reviewers.

Not for nothing, this score from another excluded outlet brought the Meta down to 83.

dumahim316d ago

Yes, SkillUp didn't get one either.

Skate-AK315d ago

I know Skill Up said he didn't get a code. He's in Australia. That's all I know about.

porkChop315d ago

Ah, SkillUp didn't get one? That's surprising. He usually puts out some very comprehensive reviews. Not quite as good as ACG but I do like to see what he thinks of a game. I guess because he's a YouTuber sites just don't count him because he isn't technically an outlet. Weird either way.

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Because it doesn't make any sense. Why would one specific region be blocked? I've never gotten the impression that UK outlets are historically any harsher when it comes to reviews. If that were the case why hasn't it happened before? We've seen specific outlets not be given codes, but an entire region? It makes no sense.

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ChasterMies316d ago

Microsoft does their own internal reviews. They knew this game would be about a 7/10 overall. So they juiced the score at launch by cherry picking reviewers that would give them higher scores. Movies studios do the same thing with Rotten Tomatoes.

repsahj316d ago

Because they know that critics will see the obvious flaws.

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anast316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

Todd said that we could freely fly around the universe with a 1000 planets to explore. The meta is 84 now.

repsahj316d ago

Maybe he ment by "freely" is "without exploration needed".

GamingSinceForever316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

Maybe what he meant by “freely” is on GamePass. 😂

zeuanimals316d ago

Would be lower without the paid reviews.

Crows90316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

It'll go down more. This is a game that should be in the 70s.

It's a step back in every single category...except maybe graphics by very little.

__SteakDeck__316d ago

@Shane Kim Not for a game that some people hyped as “The Game of the Generation”. Also 84 is low for Bethesda. If Rockstar or Naughty Dog got an 84 on their main AAA game, that would be a disappointment.

spss11316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

And the PC meta is at 87.

To score in the 80's means it's a great game. Just look at Ghost of Tsushima. I would argue it's the best PS4 exclusive and is artistically stunning. Deserved more than an 83 tbh.

So yes, Starfield scoring 84/87 is in no way bad though I'm sure MS wanted it in the 90's.

anast316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

It's 83 now and dropping. It will probably hit around the mid to upper 70s, which will be a mediocre game as I predicted.

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Walweeze316d ago

It is but i rmbr the comment section for ghost of tsushima getting killed for being 83, horizon 2 87, and ff16 87.

ocelot07316d ago

Not a bad score at all. But remember this was the game that was hyped up for the past 2 years. Was suppose to be the game that finally made millions go and buy a Xbox.

It was suppose to be goty. It was hyped up way to much simply because it was Bethesda. The ones that have us fallout 76.

PrinceOfAnger316d ago

87 on PC.

DF
"Starfield on PC is the best way to play".

Tapani316d ago (Edited 316d ago )

It is 83 now, and user score is 6.5. Not exactly a smash hit after all the hype. The average of those scores is 74, which is probably about right for Starfield.

Personally, I cannot be bothered with Bethesda games, they feel like they come from a factory without any creativity or vision. The best modern fallout was not even made by them. Plus their writing is just so subpar that I don't understand how you can even write so mundane and mediocre stuff at such a large company like that. There's also zero personality in their characters, no matter how hard they try to make them "quirky" or "different" from each other.

I dunno, I saw the above from all the gameplay footage, and it turned out to be the case. Good that some people enjoy it and all the power to them. Just not my thing.

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BillyCrystals316d ago

I'm seeing 83. With dozens of more reviews still likely to be submitted, I wonder if it will drop into the 70s.

EvertonFC316d ago

Probably sit around 78 when all said and done.

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Futureshark316d ago

3 stars!!!

Good enough for Gamepass.

Crows90316d ago

Standard for Gamepass...albeit they do have some good indies on it

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10 "Bad" Games I Actually Enjoyed

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Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Good list I've had similar reactions to some games even ones on the list like the order and Callisto

Also I recently grabbed forspoken for, 5 dollars at a eb games Clarence sale and I am actually enjoying it more than I thought I would

Sometimes you just need to give critically panned games a chance

FTLmaster2d ago

Oh gosh, good shout on Forspoken! Genuinely forgot about that one, and haven't got around to playing it. It's on my to-buy-in-a-sale list!

Cacabunga1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Knack was great ! Had a blast with the first one. Haven’t tried the second one though due to backlog

The Fight: Lights Out was also a game i enjoyed very much and highly detailed with great motion control when you understand how they work, which is what pushed people away from this game..

LoveSpuds1d 13h ago

Both The Order and Calisto were harshly treated in my view. I am not saying they are perfect, but the were both really solid games. I personally really liked them despite acknowledging their flaws and coincidentally, got the platinum trophy for both games.

Evil West is another really fun game that's worth checking out for sure.

andy851d 12h ago

Forspoken was great. Never really understood all the criticism. 2nd best traversal in a game after Spiderman

Profchaos1d 6h ago

Yeah gameplay wise I get huge infamous vibes with its combat starting out as low level eventually becoming a unstoppable power spewing killing machine with a wide variety of powers infamous is one of my favourite franchises obviously it's not the same but I love the combat of it so far.

ChasterMies2d ago

I feel like we’re finally starting to see a sea change in how we treat our favorite games. Sure, we all acknowledge that a game can suck and we can still enjoy it. Hopefully this results in meaningful review scores. Personally, I find a lot of bad games are better if you blast through them on the easiest difficulty. Callisto protocol on the image is a good example of this.

LoveSpuds1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I really liked Calisto, harshly treated for sure and I don't necessarily think it needs to be played on easy to enjoy it. It's not perfect, but it's not the car crash the media portrayed it as either.

I have said it before, but part of the issue is that there is a mind share going on in games coverage, with all the main outfits being personal friends and talking too each other. As such, there is a risk that everyone ends up sharing in the same opinion rather than thinking from themselves. I reckon that's why some games get a universal bashing when consumers actually like the game and equally, games get great reviews across the board and the game doesnt land with consumers.

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Actually, I started liking FO76 after the wastelanders DLC ... it has been my guilty pleasure
other games I can think of Order 1886, Driveclub, Resident Evil 6 (only the Leon part), Alpha Protocol (pretty unique, needs a remake), XIII Remake (after patches), Medal of Honor 2010, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Homefront The Revolution, Enemy Front, Legendary The Box, Faces of War, Conflict: Vietnam, Conflict: Global Storm & Codename: Panzers – Cold War

CosmicTurtle2d ago

Driveclub was genuinely a good game with a poor launch. Alpha Protocol is superb, just a few archaic design choices for the time.

RaidenBlack1d 14h ago

I want past games with interesting setups/mechanics but having some flaws (due to crunch or budget) to be remade so that the gaming community can appreciate and enjoy them as was envisioned and intended by the developers. In contrast to a successful game being remade again just with prettier coat of paint.
Alpha Protocol tops that and I'll include FO:NV as well as an exception (it is popular but features were cut due to limited dev time). And also Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines I, Singularity, KOTOR II and maybe Daikatana.
There might be others which I can't recall atm.

SonyStyled2d ago

I loved Enemy Front. I pre ordered it months prior and remember calling the store to check if it came out that day. The guy never heard of it but confirmed my copy was ready to pick up. Game was simple and basic in a good way. Didn’t have any tacked on extras. A simple mission and objectives in each level. Kind of reminded me of the first Crysis in a way

gold_drake2d ago

The Order was really good. abit short

RiseNShine2d ago

I loved The Order, ridiculous graphics for it's time and a very interesting setting, it was linear but not as bad as people say. Similar thing with Callisto Protocol, i admit that i played it a long time after release so maybe issues were fixed by then, but it was a fantastic Dead Space-like horror game with some of the best graphics i've seen in my life.

LoveSpuds1d 12h ago

Yup, I am afraid to say I waited on Calisto and picked it up for around 30 quid. Once I played it on felt really badly for the devs because the game was really decent.

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Earth Becomes Habitable Again in Starfield, Thanks to this Mod

Thanks to the Starfield Creation Kit, the "Earth Restored" mod has transformed the Earth into a Pine Forest and filled the sea with life.

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Starfield DLC needs to be as awe-inspiring as Shadow of the Erdtree to win players back

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Brazz14d ago

Spoiler... It Will not. Bethesda is outdated.

anast14d ago

If it gets rid of the loading screens and adds space exploration, it will.

phoenixwing14d ago

loading screens and zones are hardboiled into the game, they would have to remake it to change it. which if they had just made a new engine or used someone else's they wouldn't be in this mess

purple10114d ago

only PSpro release will get rid of there loading, at at minimum, half the time it takes.

lucian22914d ago

nah cuz game has multiple things that have to happen before transition to outer space; issue is it isnt seamless

BoneMagnus14d ago

I played Starfield this past weekend. I enjoyed it and overall was about 30 hours in, but as soon as I got the e-mail about the GamePass price increase, I cancelled my account and deleted Starfield, Halo, Forza and others off my Series X.

If I want to play those games, I’ll just buy them outright - and truth is, I’m pretty sure I won’t. They aren’t worth it to me.

Ninver14d ago

Brutal truth. Thanks gor being honest.

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