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FTC Files Complaint Against Microsoft For Refusing To Provide Documents, After 24 Requests To Do So

The FTC isn’t all too pleased with Microsoft as the court case between the two entities continues, with the FTC now going as far as filing a complaint against Microsoft for its consistent refusal to provide requested documents.

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Sonyslave3408d ago

Ftc got caught by the Eu regulatory body for creating a false narrative about Zenimax purchase saying Ms promise them they won't make games exclusive when they never did.
The Ftc knows it losing this case and fishing for anything it can to try and block this deal lol.

shinoff2183408d ago (Edited 408d ago )

Ms definitely alluded to it. Someone here already posted docs about ms saying it. Forget who posted it though. Just a day or 2 ago. Sure it wasn't a promise of sorts but there's documentation out there

SonyStyled408d ago (Edited 408d ago )

I didn’t read the comment, but was it a “it’s not our intention to remove access of games to gamers” to “Bethesda titles will be exclusive to Xbox/pc on a case by case basis” to “Bethesda titles will be accessible wherever gamepass is available”, after the purchase?

shinoff2183408d ago

Sonystyled, yeah something like that. Then something about not doing something cause it would lead to loss or. It seemed as though with what was written they didn't wanna miss out on ps sales but hey maybe they meant switch

wiz7191407d ago

@shinoff Mannnn this narrative is sooooo tiring , man they are releasing two new IPS. Why wouldn’t they be exclusive , Sony only players trying to move up the goalpost. When Bethesda has countless other IPs that’s currently multi platform , those are the games the will remain as they’re. Sony bought Bungie under the guides they can still remain multi platform , but they announced a new IP but I don’t see no notion it’s going to be multi platform. It’s ever crazier that Sony has a game that they don’t even own in an exclusivity lock , FF ring bells. What happened to the FF remake that Xbox players was supposed to get ??? The exclusivity deal ended in 2021 but here we are in 2023 which no FF7 remake , which is absurd.
https://www.thegamer.com/mi...

How is it that Microsoft entirely funds a development of a game , pays the studio developing the game , pays all the R&D cost , everything with NOOOOOO HELP from Sony … Sony whines about because the 2 games won’t appear on THEIR console ?? What a world to be living in .

shinoff2183407d ago (Edited 407d ago )

Wiz7191

That's your first problem atleast in your reply to me is that I have and always have ended up with all 3 systems. In fact I've stated numerous times I'm pretty excited for starfield so I will be buying a series x come August or maybe sooner if I find a good deal on marketplace or something.

For real though if it's that tiring to you just skip it dog. You don't have to read it. Then right a book about it afterwards

And lastly I'll just add starfield. Play dumb if you won't but there's no doubt that starfield was in development for ps.

Maybe square doesn't see the value in developing ff7r for xbox because it won't sell. Did ms approach about gamepass. If not maybe square ain't with it. Maybe the exclusive ff7r is the whole series (3 parts) I haven't seen the contract myself. With that said don't forget ms has 3rd party exclusives to. You guys seem to forget about it for some reason cause your so obsessed with final fantasy. I'm personally not that excited for ff16. It's said ff15 sold 80 percent on ps , enough said

wiz7191406d ago

@Shinoff I own all 3 as well , so the exclusivity thing doesn’t bother me .. I’m just taking it from an unbiased standpoint , MS does have third party exclusives but once the exclusive contract is up I never seen MS BLOCK a game from going to other systems that they own rights to. Those games always ended up going to Sonys machine , I’m not into JRPG games but I know people that are. FF does sales on Xbox , but obviously with PS having a larger install base obviously it will sell more on PS especially in places like JAPAN. Starfield was on development for PS at a time when they didn’t even have a concept on what the game was ??? The game really didn’t even have a core concept until late 2020 .. so how can that be it was in development for PS ?? It’s tiring how ppl keep saying MS is taking games away when they have studios releasing multi plat games lol and still constantly update the ones that’s out. They can easily cut the work and just update the Xbox versions , but they take the time to update the PS versions to. Same with ES 6 there isn’t even any kind of footage of the game and it how many years away , I don’t see Sony doing anything to aid with development but they want the game on their console ?? Like where has that ever happened.

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shinoff2183407d ago

The ftc is corrupt(idk maybe) yet its ms that have been sued numerous times over the years for shiesty sh

Christopher408d ago

This comment would fit perfectly on mainstream news media stations. It alludes to a supposed past indiscretion that didn't stop the previous deal at all. It provides no proof of the goals of the FTC in this case, but claims they are losing it and have a goal of blocking it versus doing their job, which is the examine all relevant material to the case to determine if it should happen.

neutralgamer1992408d ago

MS and Phil Spencer himself have said many times their goal is for more gamers to play their games yet bought zenimax and made their games exclusives

They are buying Activision and only promising COD that means every other IP will be off PlayStation. Please stop defending these corporations whether it's Sony or Microsoft

Also you may not like FTC but they can still block this deal. Especially under democrats rule in white house and Senate. People bring up the fact FTC doesn't win often yet it doesn't need to win often just once will be enough to block this deal off (and FTC under trump was way different then under Biden)

It's kind of sleepy that Microsoft wants Sony and others to show all their documents yet can't do the same for FTC

I am personally really tried of all this nonsense. Just get this over with and we as gamers need to stick together please

These greedy publishers are already taking advantage of us with micro transactions, gambling and incomplete games

shinoff2183408d ago

Neurtualgamer.

Well said on most of it. You really do tend to show neutrality.

rippermcrip408d ago

The EU documents are public and Microsoft specifically did say those things. They've been quoted many times.

Asplundh408d ago (Edited 408d ago )

You don't mind showing where in those documents that it shows MS saying that then do you? Because EU said otherwise.

"Microsoft didn't make any "commitments" to EU regulators not to release Xbox-exclusive content following its takeover of ZeniMax Media" - the European Commission

False information is contagious, let's stop spending it.

IRetrouk407d ago

It's in the public realm man, all you have to do is look, making a statement and making a commitment are two different things🤦‍♂️

https://ibb.co/G2vFtgw

mkis007408d ago (Edited 408d ago )

MS gave a statement that explicitly alluded to having no reason to stop bethesda from making ps games. This was not a binding agreement. The next time they said something though do you think it's wise to believe what they say?

shinoff2183408d ago

That was pretty much my point.

notachance408d ago

MS fanboys talking about false narratives lol.. your beloved company is the expert about that sort of thing.

Kakashi Hatake407d ago

You're running with a talking point from MS fanboy journalists. Haven't seen any lawyers bring this up.

S2Killinit407d ago (Edited 407d ago )

FTC filing a motion to compel MS’s sleazy execs, and sanctions incoming.

Getting my hot cocoa ready

Terry_B407d ago

being a console war soldier must be hard.

JokerBoy129407d ago

You're getting down voted to hell even though you speak the truth. This site has become such a shithole. It's nothing but Sony zealots thinking Jim Ryan is the messiah.

BehindTheRows406d ago

Then ….. go somewhere else.

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darkrider408d ago

Microsoft being Microsoft and thinking that rules don't matter. Not even after 24 requests from the ftc.

Eonjay408d ago (Edited 408d ago )

To make matters worse it's the same info they bitched to the court about Sony providing. I really don't know how they think Sony has to provide it at Microsofts request but they don't have to do the same for the regulators. Make that make sense Microsoft.

artgamer407d ago

It doesn't have to make sense.

Microsoft and their ilk are the MAGAs/Qanon of gaming.

FPS_D3TH407d ago (Edited 407d ago )

@artgamer Nice comparison, redditor

XiNatsuDragnel408d ago

Well Microsoft has been caught w their pants down rn imo.

isarai408d ago

So they want everyone else's documents, but don't want to give up their own. Why doesn't that surprise me 😒

Christopher408d ago

It's standard legal BS. Try to get everything, try to hide all your stuff, throw the kitchen sink at everything. Even Sony's original filing was kitchen sink material where only a few points were at all relevant to the anti-competitive nature of the deal, the rest was random BS.

porkChop408d ago

Depending on the due date I could maybe understand them saying there isn't enough time regarding the new deals they've just made in the last week or so. But anything older than that shouldn't have been a problem. Just give up the documents. Sony had to do it and so do you. That's how this works. If you make a claim you have to provide documents to back up your claim.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 4h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle15h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188112h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio12h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

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Lightning777h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7245m ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218313h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga12h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10117h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos16h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac16h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic13h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 13h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 9h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 9h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 9h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 5h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 8h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 8h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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