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Why DLSS in Horizon Zero Dawn is a Big Deal

Horizon Zero Dawn on PC is already a visually impressive game, but it just got better with the latest update patch that adds Nvidia DLSS support.

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AKS1253d ago

The update also added FSR. I'm not convinced it's THAT big of a deal to add DLSS support specifically when anyone with a modern GPU could use FSR and look almost as good. Hopefully the technology Intel has developed is also good. Having the option of multiple choices is great, but I'd mainly just like to have at least one of those upscaling technologies available for every game to keep the game running smoothly. I hoped NIS would be that solution I could just use for any game that doesn't have it, but it doesn't seem to be cooperating with 32:9 just yet.

CrimsonIdol1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

I get the argument that FSR is more universally supported on GPUs but it's still kind of meh by comparison, at least for now. DLSS on the other hand can be total magic. It seems like a total missed opportunity to me that FSR doesn't have a temporal element to it as DLSS does, but maybe all that is giving those Tensor cores a workout that would take too much of a performance hit on traditional shader cores (just guessing here). I know Intel is planning on going heavy on their AI specialised cores too, so while cards weak in that area may support Intels DLSS-like solution it's possible the performance uplift might not be that great on those older cards.

ABizzel11253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

FSR is only almost as good when used a higher resolutions. Both technologies are good at increasing FPS in games, however, DLSS is primarily an image reconstruction technology which allows GPUs to achieve significantly higher resolutions along with the increased fps. I agree with you that hopefully Intel's XeSS is another great addition since it is also open-source like FSR. These 3 software solutions are the biggest leaps in GPU tech since......Pascal which was 5 years ago.

The reason this is important ,however, is because his is another PS game that is now working directly with NVIDIA on adding DLS to their games, and Sony has been rumored to be working on their own DLSS solution for their games, and a continuation of their partnership with NVIDIA throughout all of Sony.

LordoftheCritics1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

Yup. FSR looks kind of ok when at 4k and such.

While DLSS can make 1080p images look amazing. You can even go lower res. FSR at lower resolutions is a mess. Death Stranding at DLSS 1080p looks so smooth and crisp, zero aliasing, better textures somehow and all the vertical lines and text look highly enhanced.

LordoftheCritics1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

FSR doesnt look as good as DLSS. If you have an NVIDIA 2,3k series card and both options exist, 10000000% times you would go for DLSS.

AKS1250d ago

I have an RTX 2080 Super and have used both FSR and DLSS in multiple games. FSR at Ultra Quality looks very good and pretty close to DLSS. At lower resolutions DLSS looks better.

AKS1250d ago (Edited 1250d ago )

You technical wizards can tell me which one looks amazing and which one looks terrible given one uses the amazing ultra fantastic "magic" technique and one uses the mediocre, marginal technique. Should be easy for you pros given there is such a massive disparity between FSR and DLSS according to you (the ones claiming this):

https://steamuserimages-a.a...

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CrimsonIdol1248d ago

I'll bite on the trap here :P I mean the first one looks better in these screens (even though it's got a kind of gross sharpening filter over the top) but I'm not convinced this is a fair fight. I'm definitely curious as to the settings used here. The aliasing is much less pronounced on the second shot though it definitely looks muddy as well. First is FSR second is DLSS would be my guess.

When I said it *can* be kind of magic I'm not saying it's completely and utterly magic and I'm not saying FSR is terrible or anything either. But with DLSS at the "quality" setting on my screen I often get an image that (for the most part) looks better than native resolution and with a very decent performance boost. That's on a 3080 and a 4K monitor and that's the kind of magic I'm referring to (both looking better and running better). I'm not suggesting it doesn't fall apart the further down the line you go.

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masterfox1253d ago

I think FSR is a more huge deal cause, using FSR you can get big increments of FPS while retaining visual quality and this mode can be used all the way to a 1060 gtx cards, meanwhile for DLss it can only be obtain I think for the 2000 series nvidia cards and above.

annoyedgamer1253d ago

DLSS retains visual quality better than FSR does but it only works on Nvidia 2000 series and later. FSR will improve in the future however.

ABizzel11253d ago

FSR is good for GPUs without dedicated AI cores because it's their only solution, which is still fine because it's great at what it does....at least at higher resolutions. DLSS is the better tech because it's full image reconstruction which allows it to work at all HD resolutions and even some subHD resolutions to increase FPS and "image quality", something FSR cannot do.

Intel's XeSS seems to be a middle road for both. Offering DLSS-like image reconstruction for all GPUs that have AI cores, which means it will have less GPUs than FSR to benefit from, but should have more than DLSS considering DLSS is locked to NVIDIA, while XeSS will be for all 3.

Snakeeater251253d ago

I don’t know but forbidden west will look amazing on ps5

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Pure Arts Reveals Borderlands Collectible

Pure Arts Reveals Borderlands Collectible that fans should l8ve.

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Jade Raymond Has Left Haven Studios, The PlayStation-owned Studio She Founded

Veteran producer Jade Raymond has left Haven Studios, the company she founded in 2021.

According to a new report by Bloomberg, Raymond – who rose to prominence after producing Assassin’s Creed and executive producing Assassin’s Creed II, Assassin’s Creed: Bloodlines and Watch Dogs – has left her studio, which is still in the process of developing online shooter Fairgames.

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Obscure_Observer5h ago

Jesus Christ man...Unbelievable!

I can´t believe that Playstation Studios can´t manage to develop and deliver ONE single successful high quality first party LS game throughout the whole current generation!

Hermen Hulst needs to be fired ASAP! He´s Jimbo 2.0!

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S2Killinit3h ago

Sure buddy. Don’t forget, we have everything you have, but more. 😝

5j1mk2h ago

But you pay $80 for it, we don’t 😉

And you still don’t have everything we have.

But you admit the main reason to buy a PS5 is Xbox games? Good. We’re on the same page. Sony first party is dead and worthless.

Lightning771h ago

Can you stop the fanboying for 2 seconds? Seriously this deflecting and ignoring everything that's going on with Sony's first party the past few years is frustrating and ignorant. You know there's others who have a PS also and want Sony's best like we use to get right? Stop trying to ruin it for everyone else with side steps. Not this BS deflecting that you ppl constantly do.

Besides HD what other LS game thrived so far? Has Herman made good buissness choices and decisions when it comes to LS yes or no?

Start questioning PS Studios.

S2Killinit39m ago(Edited 36m ago)

@Lightning
Fanboy? You talking about me, or yourself? We got alt guy over here with his brand new account burning up from rage, and you are asking me stop “fan boying”?

Sony have at least 3 first party heavy hitters coming up, that we know of, and its not like we are lacking in exclusives department.

As to LS, they had Helldivers, and GT7, both were resounding success. They had a complete flop in concord. Not sure why you think we need to be concerned. They are destroying the competition and that market share translates to games.

Lightning776m ago

"Fanboy? You talking about me, or yourself?"

What's are you talking about how am I a fanboy? Those alt counts will be gone nobody will see them anyway.

I wouldn't call Marathon a heavy hitter and Yotei yes definitely. However they do have DS2 I just feel like there should be more. We all know why there isn't more.

They only have two LS HD as I mentioned and I totally forgot about Grand Turismo. Only 2 While canceling Twisted Metal and Spiderman LS. Who knows the quality at least those games sound compelling.

Btw MLB isn't a live service its a Yearly released sports game.

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Lightning775h ago

Yeah hate to break it to you Sony but I think they need to shelve their LS efforts almost all together. They formed LFG ex Bungie guys and making another LS but I don't have much hope for it anymore. Marathon is quickly getting overshadowed by Arch Raiders, We all know what happened to Concord.

Only solution I can think of is have 3rd party like a Arrowhead make them a LS game. Speaking of AH their next project is completely funded by them so it won't be from them. I just think it's a good idea that they seek a 3rd party for LS. They'll save time, money and won't take time away their SP efforts. Which is suffering immensely this gen due to all this LS.

S2Killinit3h ago

Wait we are writing off games that arent even out yet?

5j1mk2h ago

lol, like there’s anything about Marathon and Fairgames that instills confidence 😂🤭

Lightning771h ago(Edited 1h ago)

It might come out it might not. Sony said they're still pushing the project. That's a good thing. Even if it does come out will it be any good? There's too many questions and hurdles surrounding the LS.

Bigger question when are we gonna see it? Will they have a PS showcase or State Of Play? Grubb said Sony was debating whether to have a showcase, SOP or anything.

I sure hope they have a showcase or something in the coming weeks. I want Sony first party and their teams not just Xbox events and shows basically saving the damn day at this point.

Of all the companies it's freakin Xbox that's doing it. Who'd a thought.

S2Killinit47m ago(Edited 46m ago)

Look at alt guy with 3 comments history over here.

Desperate.

Sonyslave34h ago

Live services games are hard to make & and even harder to make if you trying to create an original game.

Just copy and past succesful gaas or gacha games with their anime license they can easy make a overwatch or geshin impact clone.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney1d 16h ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher1d 14h ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

BlueDaBaDee10h ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers10h ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12510h ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers10h ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro8h ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster30009h ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

Shiore2u8h ago

No. Don't recall that. You know the voices in your head aren't real right?

pwnmaster30007h ago

I mean you can say that all you want but it’s the truth. Most recent one I saw was a whole bunch of you PC gamers bitching about having a PSN account and one of the arguments was how it’s not secure enough lol.

Shiore2u6h ago

@pwnmaster3000 Real or not it must have really got under your skin to keep talking about it. Why so touchy?

pwnmaster30005h ago

Two comments and I keep talking about it lmao.
Look you must be new to conversations but this is how it goes. You talk to me and I respond back.
Very simple and with practice maybe you would be good to ☺️ cheers mate.

Shiore2u5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

@pwnmaster3000 It's just a question, stop being so touchy.

(hopefully you figure out the irony by now, I can't be anymore obvious with the goading)

pwnmaster30003h ago

What you using the word “touchy”? What about it?
And yes it was a question and I answered. Do you not like getting responses back lol.

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badz1498h ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster30007h ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall1h ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

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