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Xbox Game Pass Doesn’t Negatively Impact A Game’s Development, We Happy Few Developer Says

In a recent interview with Xbox Squad, We Happy Few developer Compulsion Games talks about the impact of Xbox Game Pass on game development. In the interview, head of PR Naila Hadjas says that Xbox Game Pass doesn’t negatively impact a game’s development.

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Magog1372d ago

They are owned by Microsoft. Of course they will say that.

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Eonjay1372d ago

Why would it impact development tho. I can see the case for impacting sales but why would development be impacted?

Magog1372d ago

Because without a primary revenue stream they have to build their games around secondary revenue streams aka Microtransactions.

Michiel19891372d ago

@magog so the gamepass subs arent primary revenue, what is it then just some change? when we are talking about 1st party games at least. For 3rd party title they probably get a good chunk of money for them to be on there, i dont think any numbers have been released for that, but i doubt any publisher would want its game on there when they dont get any decent money for it. I also doubt they are gonna change their development pipeline just because it might be on gamepass at some point.

Their primary goal is to make good games so it incentivizes people to get subbed to gamepass, riddling your game with mtx does the oppsite. Im not that familiar with MS 1st party games, but im curious which are full of mtx? Forza is the only one i can think of.

KillBill1371d ago

@Magog - and yet the game they developed and put on GamePass did not have the microtransaction revenue streams you claim are the impact. Do you just say things to see if anyone buys your weak theory?

MagUk1371d ago

It’s like Microsoft haven’t talked about this already? 🤦🏻‍♂️
https://www.pcgamesinsider....

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SullysCigar1372d ago

They're hardly masters of the development process anyway, so I'm not sure why anyone would care for their views on the subject.

We Happy Few was an awesome concept and I was really looking forward to it, but after being delayed it was eventually AWFUL. More like We Crappy Few. A totally squandered opportunity.

Sayai jin1372d ago

This coming from a person perfoming metal gymnastics to explain GT7 being aleays online.

mikey151371d ago

Sayai jin2h ago
This coming from a person perfoming metal gymnastics to explain GT7 being aleays online.***

Are you talking about me Shirley??

***MS FS2020 released on steam August 2020
released on Gamepass Series SX July 2021

Gears Tactics Released Windows [PC] Apr 2020
released Gamepass XBox Nov 2020***

That isn't mental gymnastics for grown ups, pure truth unless you can tell us different?? Don't talk about me talk to me if you dare... How about it "Jin"/ Keyboard WARRIOR?

"COME FACE ME COWARD!!!" lolol

KillBill1371d ago

@mikey15 - did they @ you? I don't even see a reply from you in this thread. Are you feeling attacked? Is your reply the SPAM reply that we can't see?

Sayai jin1371d ago

Not sure why you mentioned Xbox titles. Your'e maturity level is staggering. Looks like your orogi al foolish comment was deslt with.

Shirley, keyboard warrior...? When someone begins to attnept nsme calling it highlights that they have nothing tangible to relay.

I game and stay abreast of gaming and gaming news to help and to hobby with my children. Face you? I am a retired combat vet that enjoys vgaming with my kids.

Take a deep breath and touch some grass. Simpin' for a company is rather pathetic.

mikey151371d ago

KillBill32m ago
@mikey15 - did they @ you? I don't even see a reply from you in this thread. Are you feeling attacked? Is your reply the SPAM reply that we can't see?***

Obviously dipstick, who tf do you think he's talking about??You went straight back to the thread where the keyboard coward had responded to me with an ad hominem attack

***Sayai jin9h ago(Edited 9h ago)
@Mikey, go outside and touch some grass mate. Just stop, you are just embarrassing yourself.***

Then joined the little gang of cowards to state that

***KillBill36m ago
@mikey15 - how have you gotten away with not being banned from N4G yet?***

I'm the one who should be banned..

The Spam was the ORIGINAL poster kid, which I answered... It wasn't marked as Spam when the Keyboard warrior read it now was it genius??

To be frank the guy I was "debating" me was finished in 2 posts... He never replied to my last post so I thought it was finished... But no I have 8 little trolls [you included] all mentioning my name, but NONE with the wherewithall to show me anywhere I am wrong.

If you even dream a little Keyboard coward[s] can come at me and not earn either an apology for an error on my part. or slapped down for their stupidy on theirs, you'd better wake up and apologise.

mikey151371d ago

Sayai jin39m ago
Not sure why you mentioned Xbox titles.***

Because clueless that was what the original post was about from a troll, calling out "Sony fanboys" to show games being delayed on Gamepass.. I very politely obliged

***MS FS2020 released on steam August 2020
released on Gamepass Series SX July 2021

Gears Tactics Released Windows [PC] Apr 2020
released Gamepass XBox Nov 2020***

then you came in with this off topic trash

***Sayai jin2h ago
This coming from a person perfoming metal gymnastics to explain GT7 being aleays online.***

You really need to do something about your spelling son.

I put that up and challenged you to tell me where I was wrong.. You still haven't, so all I am left with is some mouthy git who wants to take cheap shots at me without showing where I;m wrong.

"Lucas" the original poster in the GT thread tried to at least answer on topic, then gave up.. You people were so incensed 8 of you made comments about me personally and you carried it on here. I have no animosity to Lucas, thats what grown ups do, but you Shirley wanted to talk behind my back and whip up "anti Mikey" trash in a different thread, so man up Shirley and take what your given.

*** Your'e maturity level is staggering. Looks like your orogi al foolish comment was deslt with.***

Calm down sweetie, you'll get a miocardial infarction...

Don't try to put this on me kid, you are the troll stalking me bringing up comments stated in another thread.. end of.

***Shirley, keyboard warrior...? When someone begins to attnept nsme calling it highlights that they have nothing tangible to relay
[lol get a spell checker]
I game and stay abreast of gaming and gaming news to help and to hobby with my children. Face you? I am a retired combat vet that enjoys vgaming with my kids.***

And following me around this ng apparently...

***Take a deep breath and touch some grass.***

You need some new lines old fella, you said that in the GT thread.

***Simpin' for a company is rather pathetic.***

The guy called out "Sony fanboys" in an XB thread, I answered who was "simpin" gramps?? [whatever the hell simpin' means lol]

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neutralgamer19921372d ago (Edited 1372d ago )

We don't have enough data either way to make a case. This is a wait and see kind of a thing. Big publishers are saying for them GP don't make a lot of sense but once again we are in the early days of this service. By year 3-4 we will know a lot more

It's great for gamers if you play a lot of games. I signed up and used it for 4 months but couldn't finish one game(I am weird like that I had the same issue with gamefly) I just like to buy the game and take my time/play at my own pace. Again this is a personal weird thing. But if I was in high school without a family or other priorities than GP would be a great service for me

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XiNatsuDragnel1372d ago

We are unsure about that yet let's be skeptical though.

InUrFoxHole1372d ago

I think that's an excellent stance. Right now we know it's great for us the gamers but we don't have enough data to see the effects on publishers overall. We can be happy and cautious ⚠️ as to where this leads.

generic-user-name1371d ago

I'm not sure I've heard the argument that Game Pass would impact development, it's after launch where issues come to mind. However, after thinking about it, you could make the quantity over quality argument. Xbox might prefer 4 $50m titles rather than 1 single $200m title (just picking that number as Shawn Layden recently suggested that's where AAA is headed over at Sony). The $200m title would presumably be higher quality for obvious reasons.

Having said that, so far that's just speculation and if any company can afford $200m for their AAA titles, it's Xbox. That's for first party stuff, things get trickier with the 3rd party game pass stuff. Phil paid $100m to Square for ROTR 1 year exclusivity, how much is he paying for, say, MLB to launch on Game Pass? I'm sure different games will have different price tags, but where there are winners, there are likely to be losers too.

Not to mention Game Pass isn't yet profitable for Xbox, how long can that continue before something needs to change? The Xbox Live membership hike that got over turned earlier this year may hint that Phil is under some pressure from above to bring in more revenue to offset Game Pass. There may be a clock ticking.

Knushwood Butt1372d ago

Didn't We Happy Few bomb?

Says dev.

CaptainHenry9161372d ago

I played it on PC and really didn't enjoy it. I didn't even finish finish the game because he was boring

darkrider1372d ago

If Microsoft pays millions and millions it won't. Otherwise they will close doors if the game is only on Microsoft machines

Viking_mo1372d ago

Need another perspective from someone whos not owned by Microsoft but im sure others have said its not profitable

InUrFoxHole1372d ago

I agree. We need all the perspectives we can get. As of now I haven't heard but one dev say it in a negative fashion. There could be more though. At this point it's a wait and see game. Remember each deal is different.

mikefizzled11372d ago

There's been a handful of articles over the years about how smaller developers have succeeded and value the service. Not really sure who the others are that you mention but there's still a question mark over the profitability of a bigger external title like Outriders or Back 4 Blood launching on the service.

Sitdown1372d ago (Edited 1372d ago )

Here is a perspective, Microsoft pays for games that want on Gamepass, if you develop a poor game, they most likely will not pay for it, and it will fail to make good sales in it's own. Send pretty straight forward. As far as in house studies eventually it will work itself out in a bad way if they are rushed.

DJStotty1371d ago (Edited 1371d ago )

"Need another perspective from someone whos not owned by Microsoft but im sure others have said its not profitable"

You really think EA would use the service as an outlet if it was not profitable? this is EA... EA.... profit is their mantra

You think the MLB 21 devs and Sony would put their game on the service for negative margins?

Really some people can't see the woods for the trees.

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Rebellion's Atomfall is finally out! But what happens if you can't get your hands on it yet? Luckily, here are the top 8 games like Atomfall.

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isarai76d ago

Kinda reminds me of miasmata also with how the navigation works. Not to miasmata's extent but definitely in the same vein

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2023 will be a make-or-break year for Game Pass

The service needs a big year, and some big games, if it's going to shape Microsoft's future.

lonewolf10894d ago

Definitely needs some 1st party output on there, 3rd party is covered very well.

Mr Pumblechook894d ago

Microsoft has paid out for the big name games launching on Game Pass, this month alone it's getting Monster Hunter Rise which PlayStation owners have to pay $40 for, not to mention all the other great new games. However these are a reward for the current Xbox userbase and not drawing new users in so MS needs its own first party exclusives.

Starfield will come out in the first half of the year, possibly June, and that's going to be an amazing boon for Microsoft and Game Pass. It's the first single player Bethesda RPG since 2015 so you could say there's some anticipation! At E3 2022 it didn't reveal what was coming in the second half of this year but that could be the long-awaited Forza 8 and four years after the 2019 Game Awards reveal and, if Ninja Theory deliver, Hellblade II: God of War Ragnaraok killer.

shinoff2183894d ago

I don't think Stanfield makes the first half of the year. Also hellblade 2 is definitely not a God of war killer. That's laughable.

crazyCoconuts894d ago

So by the middle of the year you should have your first $70 game included in your $120 annual subscription. Ok, that's not terrible, I'll give it that. I'm not as confident as you are that it'll be good though, based on the footage I've seen so far

Lightning77894d ago

"Hellblade II: God of War Ragnaraok killer."

I've heard a few ppl say that before. What does that mean? How will it "kill" a game that's been around for 18 years vs an IP that's been around for 6 and is just now prepping to release a sequel?

Logically it doesn't make sense so again how does Hellblade "kill" GoW?

Kornholic893d ago

You know, that $40 is a one-time fee.

Game Pass on the other hand requires you to pay perpetual rent to play the game. And at some point the game will disappear from the service.

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Lifexline894d ago

I agree it does need more first party games. Game pass has a lot of games already as is but just like Netflix it needs a constant stream of new games to keep people engaged.

It needs to diversify its portfolio as well I think games like high on life are a great start. Look how popular it is. They need to keep games like that coming that are “different”. I hope they achieve it because game pass really is revolutionary and such a great value for consumers.

Also I believe the cheaper ad supported tier will definitely help it’s always good to give customers options. Game pass is already a huge success MS themselves said it’s profitable. But they have ambitions to be the Netflix of gaming and 2023 will definitely be a tell if they can achieve it.

Espangerish894d ago

I don’t agree with ‘make or break’ at all. Very sensationalist headline. It’s already pretty successful as it is. Not to say more big games wouldn’t help of course but hardly going to break the service if they aren’t there.

jznrpg893d ago (Edited 893d ago )

Successful is being very profitable and that it isn’t

jznrpg893d ago

One year can be great but the next year could hurt it . It’s needs to make money long term and 1 year won’t make too much if a difference in the end . MS has had a a decent year here and there just to screw it up for a few in a row adlfrer that . MS needs 5-10 good years in a row

badz149893d ago

lol right when they already knew a huge game from Bethesda is coming to the service day 1, they came up with this atrocious article. there is no such thing as make-or-break for a service like GP with the backing of MS's wallet. they will just throw money at it because this is the basket that they've decided to put all their eggs into going forward.