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No, the Nvidia RTX 3080 didn’t just kill the PS5 and Xbox Series X

PS5 and Xbox Series X don’t need to worry about Nvidia RTX 3070

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potatoseal43d ago

Nobody says it did or even thinks that. This is just the pathetic cycle of games journalism, the need to scrounge around for topics to write about.

LordoftheCritics43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

There's a typo. 'Kill' is spelt *obliterate*

/jokes. before someone tries to obliterate me

Btw the author is arguing ''why it did not kill the consoles,'' in case anyone wants to comment surf only.

JackBNimble43d ago

Why would anyone give this article clicks?
Most console owners don't care about the latest GPU so the argument is irrelevant anyways, that's why they're console gamers and not pc gamers.

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ZeroBlue243d ago (Edited 43d ago )

They all live in the same bubble, one they foolishly think is shared by the gaming community.

ArchangelMike43d ago

It's worse than that, games journalist are known for creating a fake hit piece to generate clicks, and then a week later the same site releases another hit piece article arguing for the opposing view. Anything to get those clicks in.

Redemption-6443d ago

There was an article from yesterday that said:
Forget PS5 and Xbox Series X: Nvidia’s RTX 3070 could be all you need

Kornholic43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Many PC gamers did say that.

sampsonon43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

There have been a few articles asking the question if the RTX 3080 is stealing the ps5 and SX thunder or if you even should by those console. https://n4g.com/news/237035... and https://n4g.com/news/237023...

potatoseal43d ago

That just proves my point more. No one initally thought what these games journos are writing about. It's just their pathetic attempt to find something... anything to write about. It's all garbage.

sampsonon43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

@potatoseal:
"Nobody says it did or even thinks that. This is just the pathetic cycle of games journalism, the need to scrounge around for topics to write about."

Where is it that you use the word "initially"?

They are someone. So people though that, hence this article is correct.

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darkWingsoul43d ago

Literally was an article just the other day implying it so apparently somebody thinks it. They're wrong of course but it didn't stop it from being suggested.

SullysCigar42d ago

I think he meant nobody actually thinks it, they're just saying it for attention and clicks. I mean the same website that published this article published the one the other day saying the exact opposite. it's just dirty journalism to make a few bucks from outrage.

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TheOptimist43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

"No, the Nvidia RTX 3080 didn’t just kill the PS5 and Xbox Series X"

"PS5 and Xbox Series X don’t need to worry about Nvidia RTX 3070"

Bruh, choose 3070 or 3080.

Anyway, consoles are never going to get killed. So aren't PCs.

People choose consoles for convenience and money-saving

People choose PC for the customization, experience and the other million options PC brings to the table.

I knew that my PC in 2016 was thrice the price of my PS4 at the time. But I wanted the experience. I wanted to play games at 100+ fps. I wanted to tinker around with my hardware. I wanted to customize my games with mods. I wanted to play competitive games with whatever input I choose. I didn't want the lack of peace of mind that I have paid for the Multiplayer side so I have to make the most out of it.

I will not be getting a PS5, not because it isn't cheap or because it isn't convenient, but the platform does not fulfill what I desire and does not feel like money well spent as a buyer of its previous iteration. It will obviously be worth it to many other people who want to play the games the platform has to offer or people who want the convenience of a sit-down and just play.

Also

"Nobody says it did or even thinks that. This is just the pathetic cycle of games journalism, the need to scrounge around for topics to write about."

LordoftheCritics43d ago

''I knew that my PC in 2016 was thrice the price of my PS4 at the time. But I wanted the experience''

This ^

Every gen I want a maximised experience. I usuallybuy the consoles for the exclusives but like 95% of my time is on the pc. My 6yrs of time is much more valuable and I want a maximum quality experience.

TheOptimist43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

"but like 95% of my time is on the pc"

Big this.

I have like 5000+ hours on PC compared to barely 300 hours on my PS4 in the last 4 years. This was the first time I bought a console though and I didn't find it worth the money. I mean I played all the exclusives, but I only ended up liking a couple - Bloodborne, Gravity Rush 2, Matterfall and Nioh & Yakuza (Before they came to PC).

JackBNimble43d ago

Unless you're a diehard ps4 exclusive fan there really isn't any reason in owning a playstation if you're a pc gamer.

I might skip out on next gen consoles, sony exclusives don't really do it for me .

FyBy43d ago

It really depends. I have pc for maybe 25 years (not one :-)) and I hopped into console world 10 years ago. And do you know why? Because of my time. After 25 years on pc, still you have to tinker this and that. Its fun. But if you want just turn on and play for a while, it sometimes isnt possible one pc. Lot of games are ok, but sometimes, there are really big problems (like when first when Forzas came to PC, that was mess, etc..). Or windows10 updates are disaster and it doesnt matter if Im on Intel notebook, ryzen desktop or even Intel desktop. And that costs time.

RazzerRedux43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Agree 100% with the the endless options and customizations on PC. The closed ecosystems of consoles feel incredibly suffocating once you gotten used to the freedom PC gaming brings. Finding a game that I want to play isn't limited to whether the store has a copy or paying for the overpriced digital versions on console. Steam, Epic, Gog, cdkeys, g2a, and others provide plenty of options for buying games at much more reasonable prices. And of course, the modding community of PC gaming adds an entire avenue to gaming that isn't available on consoles at all.

I'll still buy PS5 for the exclusives as I really enjoy them. But everything else is played entirely on PC.

BlackDoomAx43d ago

The close environment is the price to pay for not having the cheaters like there are on PC. Every multiplayer game on PC is plagued by them. It was already like that 20 years ago, it's even worse now.

PitbullMonster43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

"Steam, Epic, Gog, cdkeys, g2a, and others provide plenty of options for buying games at much more reasonable prices. "
Well, consoles have cheap retail sellers. I bought the ps4 disc version of Borderlands 3 for 5€ while the cheapest price of the pc version i saw was 25€.

jukins42d ago

Man if only there was a second hand market for console gsmes /s

RazzerRedux42d ago

@jukins

yeah....that falls under:
"whether the store has a copy"

Yes, the used market is an advantage for consoles, but consoles are moving away from physical entirely and embracing digital more and more.

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CaptainHenry91643d ago (Edited 43d ago )

"Anyway, consoles are never going to get killed."

What console are we talking about?? Because one console will be a waste of money next gen especially if you're a PC gamer first and can play all their games on PC *day one*

Anomander43d ago

And yet you still don't get what they are doing. It's not about whether it you are a PC gamer or a console gamer. It's about where you want to play. Start on PC and then take it too the living room it's about YOU deciding where you want to play and on what. Now PC is only "Day One" if you have Game Pass Ultimate. If you have Game Pass you are only doing the console version. Ultimate gives you the ability to play on both and it the better deal if you have a PC and a console.

Some games will play better on PC like Wasteland 3 and others on console (anything with 4 player split screen coop). I'll take those the coop split-screen games in the Living room any day on a much larger screen and more spaced out over than my 34" Ultra Wide Monitor and crammed together.

CaptainHenry91643d ago (Edited 43d ago )

"Some games will play better on PC"

Most games will play better on PC with the new GPUs coming out. I also expect Halo infinite to run better on the rtx 3070 and rtx 3080 than the series X

TheRealTedCruz43d ago

Yup.

I built my first PC in 2012 because that gen went too long, and some games just didn't meet my standards for what were passable anymore. I specifically remember Far Cry 3 being a blurry mess on my 360.
I then built a 680/i5 system, which I eventually added a second card to.

It was night and day playing the same games, and they system lasted me years of competent performance before I eventually upgraded to two 1660ti.
All and all, the $1500 I eventually spent in the last 8 years felt like a great investment. Of course, it wasn't as cheap as dropping a few hundred on a console (more if you invested in the mid-gen refreshes that the console heads deemed needed), but it provided me with a stronger gaming experience.

I inevitably got a PS4 Pro, which I got a great deal on because I have a buddy who runs rental service store who got one back after someone paid a bunch of money into. It's probably my favorite console I ever owned, honestly. But I love it for the exclusives, and the fact I can play more games with different friends. The 3rd party content just wasn't delivered in the same way my PC allowed, and that makes up the vast majority of content released, and that's how I expect most games to run.

There are amazing console releases to be had, but it's not enough for me to just own that, when I know the difference in performance to be had.

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RazzerRedux43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Ah....the counter article to "Forget PS5 and Xbox Series X". How very Forbes of you.

The bottom line in these arguments is how do you want to play games. I've made the argument many times that if you want the living room big TV experience then console is the to go. I certainly would not want to balance a keyboard and mouse on my living room couch. And a console fits nicely into the entertainment center and becomes a more natural component of the living room. And yes, consoles are simply easier. So there is no "killing" anything because of new GPUs. That is just hyperbole.

However....

"My gaming machine has a Ryzen 7 1800X, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and a Radeon RX 590.... "

"So for me to get the most out of all the tech Nvidia has put into its RTX 3000-series, I’d need a new processor, a new motherboard, and likely new RAM. And while I’m there I might as well upgrade the power supply unit. "

Well, if you want to get the "most out of all the tech" then yeah, buy everything new. But it isn't required. The same motherboard that takes the Ryzen 7 1800X will take a Ryzen 7 3000 series as well. That 16GB DDR4 RAM is perfectly fine. The author didn't bother stating what PSU wattage so no idea how he says "might as well upgrade" except to fluff up his argument.

"One thing I would highlight though, is a lot of games are multi-platform titles, developed to cater for the lower common denominator. In the case of the next-generation games consoles, that means the PS5 with its 10.28 teraflops of GPU power.

As such, it may be a while before you get any PC games that will take advantage of the graphical grunt of even a GeForce RTX 3070.."

Nope. It will be in November when I launch Cyberpunk 2077 maxed out with all the ray tracing it will give me. That is a bogus theory regardless unless you want to pretend that PC game visual settings and presets have been limited to what PS4 and Xbox One could handle all gen. Devs started putting ray tracing in games for PC before PS5 or XSX were even given their names. So no idea why devs would suddenly stop beefing up their PC game versions simply because PS5 is 10.2 TF. Makes no sense. There are perfectly valid arguments for consoles vs PC, but these are not them.

Vits43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

I don't know if killing is the right word here. Because as consoles they already have different sector of the market for themselves - at least in the west. The performance and especially the prices of both the 3070 and 3080 might have made some people that were on the fence about upgrading their computers or buying the new consoles, decide for the first.

And then you have the "smaller markets" like Asia - outside Japan. Where those new cards might make the consoles a little less appealing. As the region already have a strong PC centric market and if we go by tradition there will be exclusive and cheaper version cards dedicated to them.

Another market that it will be really interesting to see is Brazil. Sony is currently dominating there. But they ditched local production and regional pricing not that long ago. Meanwhile some leaks of the 3070 and 3080 prices put them for almost half of what people are expecting that Sony will ask for the PS5. So depending on what end up being the true, there might be a bigger push for PC gaming there or Microsoft can get their X360 days crown back.

But coming back to the core markets (US, EU and JP). I don't think these cards will really steal much thunder from the consoles.

Destiny108043d ago

it certainly killed the xbox

upgrade your Pc for a lot less then the series x will cost, no buying expensive battery packs/free online and 3x the performance

SullysCigar43d ago

It's hard to counter those points, without sounding defensive, so here, have your agree lol

TheRealTedCruz43d ago

Judging by your comment history, you wouldn't mind seeing Xbox go away. All I can say is, you don't want to see a day where it's just Sony and Nintendo in the physical console market.
Nintendo already does its own thing, leaving Sony basically a monopoly. You know what monopolies do? Nothing to the actual benefit of the consumer.

Vits43d ago

Yeap, companies can't get too confortable or it is us that suffer.
Just look at the PS3 early days or Microsoft original pitch for the XOne for examples of that.

medman43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

I feel as though the series x might be Microsoft's last console. They are definitely focusing forward on services and it wouldn't surprise me if come the next next gen, their games may be available across all platforms, including Sony, Nintendo, and mobile. Microsoft has always been a software company, it makes no sense for them to continue to dump hundreds of millions/billions of dollars into hardware research and development, marketing, production costs, shipping costs for the hardware, etc. etc. if a good percentage of gamepass subscribers will be playing Microsoft's games on their pc's...there are diminishing returns on investment there, and going forward it looks like the gap is becoming bigger between what is possible on pc and the limitations of console.

With gamepass, xcloud, and their cloud servers/azure, Microsoft is in a very strong position on that front. Deciding to let pc gamers have access to every Microsoft first party title was the writing on the wall for how much Microsoft really does not care about hardware sales anymore. If you already have a pc, upgrading to the 3070, 3080, or 3090 is a no brainer. If you don't, it may be a good time to consider pc gaming. There are many benefits, such as mods, not having to pay for xbox live, greater control over your gaming experience, cheaper games (and more variety/selection), more capable hardware for ai upsampling/ray tracing, overclocking potential to squeeze even more performance out of your pc, etc etc.

I have always bought multiple consoles, but that changed this current gen. Xbox one did not appeal to me....the games were not there. So this gen it's been Sony and pc for me, and that is what it will be this upcoming gen as well.

darkWingsoul43d ago

He never said he wanted to see them go away what he said was there's a more compelling reason to go with upgrading your PC graphics card if your an xbox gamer and he listed valid reasons why, there's no need to get defensive about it. If MS is still making games even if they're played on PC there's still competition.

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Weapon_of_choice42d ago

I also see no reason to buy an xbox x. But "upgrade your pc for a lot less", is just utter rubbish.

The cheapest next gen card is 500 euros. And then you assume that peeps have up to date PCs that wont bottle neck your shiny new card.

Most will have to upgrade their cpu, mainboard and probably also memory if you'd be coming from ddr3. Not to mention probably a new psu to power your next gen card, at the very least a 650 bronze psu.

AND that fast SSD if you don't have, so that's a extra 700 to 1000 euros on top of the 500 euros for your next gen card.

I'm a diehard Sony and Nintendo fan but I build custom gaming PCs for a business. So don't miss inform, cheers.

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