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Sony didn’t “simply incorporate” an AMD RDNA 2 GPU into the PS5, it helped build it

Lead system architect Mark Cerny confirmed that it will utilise the yet-unreleased architecture, but that this GPU won’t simply be a “PC part”.

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THC CELL1554d ago

People are too stupid for this info and rather look at bigger numbers

CaptainHenry9161554d ago ShowReplies(13)
Kumakai1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

ms did the same exact thing. they both use customized silicon. the reason they do it is because they can - due to the closed nature of consoles. they can specifically weed out bottlenecks and optimize. just like how iPhones do. this is nothing new and has been done for a few generations.

jbull1554d ago

You not concerned with Microsoft exclusive strategy where they will be releasing on the base Xbox one model which compared to the series X is a small pup.

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fiveby91553d ago

Oh so true. Most people are so clueless when it comes to computer architecture. The presentation by Mark Cerny went over most people's heads but developers and people trained in computer sciences. Is the Xbox a superior balanced architecture? That remains to be seen. If the APU is higher performance but data starved due to other bottlenecks then it might be meaningless. Both consoles will do 4k/60. Anyone buying these consoles for 8K is kidding themselves. By the time 8K is readily available, these consoles will have been replaced by mid gen or subsequent gen hardware. In a year the PS5 will have outsold the XBsX based on existing customer base alone.

scofios1554d ago ShowReplies(8)
NecrumOddBoy1554d ago

Don't be a jerk. It's not worth the fight.

The PS5 will be a massive powerhouse with world renowned games.

Also, everything is heard. PS5 uses a lot of customized tech designed for console games. I think we will be very surprised by what devs will do.

darthv721554d ago

so are you saying MS pulled another IBM situation here? Meaning they got wind of the custom chip Sony and IBM were working on and got IBM to build them a custom chip as well??? Only this time replace IBM with AMD.

SierraGuy1553d ago

Wtf are you talking about?

Xb1ps41554d ago

Is this not the same chip ms is using?

rainslacker1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

Pretty much, and all this talk about how either of these companies worked to make some custom solution that is somehow more relevant than the other is just ignorant BS from people who have no clue about how these things work. Sony and MS picked and chose what parts of a APU they wanted. Decided on cores, and clock speed, then anything they built specifically was in the controller and the rest of the bus to connect it all together. There was no super awesome new feature built for either system, that was either not replicated by the other company, or the other company didn't see it as relevant or decided to focus on other things. They customized the chips to their liking.

King_Noctis1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

And what make you so smart than countless other people? Both console are gonna be great Fyi.

I do really hate some fanboys.

Ricegum1554d ago

How ironic that you're one of them. You have a history of Sony bashing on this site.

King_Noctis1554d ago

@ricegum

Not as much as you bashing MS it seems. Stop being such a hypocrite.

anubusgold1554d ago

@CaptainHenry916 ps3 was 600 dollars and didnt have crap for the first year it was out so i dont want to hear your nonsense . At least xbox has its biggest game Halo on launch the first time since the first xbox. What will sony have at launch a new god of war, a new last of us i doubt it? Any thing they have at launch will be a ps4 up res version.

madpuppy1554d ago

Sony has Never disappointed me with it's consoles...Microsoft, on the other hand, never ceases to amaze me by how grand a picture they paint about how great they are and how much better it's products are....until you actually get your hands on the "finished" product. I am definitely getting a PS5...as for the Xbox? I may get the cheapo one so I can play games with my Xbox friends but, that is about the extent of my foray back into Microsoft's gaping maw I'm willing to go......but, probably not.

Tross1554d ago

I know enough to know that I really don't know a whole lot. I understand that higher numbers for things such as Teraflops is correlated with performance, but I don't know how it all works, so while I've been lurking these tech spec discussions, I really don't think I'm qualified to weigh in on them.

All I do know is I'm pre-ordering a PS5 regardless because I'm sure it will be great, and I have never been disappointed with a PlayStation. I mean, the Vita came close but it had its good points too. Every other PlayStation for me has been great, and I can't wait to do it all again with the PS5, regardless of what some numbers I don't fully understand say.

TheScotsman1553d ago

Yeah it's about buying the console to play the games you like and for me it's gonna be ps5 to start and keep my one x as well then maybe series x when I get round to it but no rush

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Intentions1554d ago

I mean that's the definition of custom made APU/SoC :/

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fathertime44641554d ago

Obviously you didn't watch the xsx presentation. Theres a ton of custom stuff in that beast

fathertime44641553d ago

@sampsonon
I'm not going to waste my time typing intelligent things on my phone just so a bunch of draft know it alls can deny the obvious

i3eyond the Circle1554d ago

The whole 36CU count of the Ps5 goes against almost everything AMD themselves speak on RDNA 2.

Hybrid Ray trace cores that act as shaders if not used and Compute units that match their previous iterations isn’t a part of the RDNA 2 vision so yeah... we’ll probably never see the Ps5 chip on PC unless they are releasing a budget card.

Sony probably has the 50% performance optimizations but lack dedicated ray trace cores, patented variable rate shading, and DXR... I’m still calling it RDNA 1.5 because clearly it isn’t the RDNA 2 package available on Xbox.

UltraNova1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

Wait does XSX have dedicated RT cores? I mean separate hardware to the GPU cores? How did I miss that?

i3eyond the Circle1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

https://wccftech.com/micros...

If the PlayStation 5 had this.., I’m sure on a “deep dive” it would be mentioned.

crazyCoconuts1554d ago

I haven't seen any evidence of that. They both claim hardware accelerated ray tracing, internal to the SOC, so I'm guessing it's just a standard AMD implementation.

i3eyond the Circle1554d ago

The evidence is Cernys own wording on the subject and total omission if it even exists

DerfDerf1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

Yes XBOX RT is handled by dedicated hardware separate from the GPU

This is direct from the Ray Tracing section of the Digital Foundry article

"Without hardware acceleration, this work could have been done in the shaders, but would have consumed over 13 TFLOPs alone," says Andrew Goossen. "For the Series X, this work is offloaded onto dedicated hardware and the shader can continue to run in parallel with full performance. In other words, Series X can effectively tap the equivalent of well over 25 TFLOPs of performance while ray tracing."

fathertime44641554d ago

@ ultranove
You should watch the hole dg episode on the series x break down.
It has separate rt cores, and they straight up said that rt on the xsx has very little impact on the CPU and gpu end

fathertime44641554d ago

@3beyond the circle
The down vote you got there is from someone that doesn't know how to click on a link a read