Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts lets you construct an endless array of wacky custom vehicles out of a thousand virtual building blocks. But what does it matter, when all you can do with them is play a lame videogame?
is the only thing exclusive worth a SQUAT on the 360 this holiday.
You call yourself "RPG Guy" and you forget to mention Fable 2. And there's also Left 4 Dead.
There is plenty worth playing on the Xbox 360. You seem to forget about the catalog of games the 360 has. If it's not new it's not worth buying? Fable 2, Left4Dead and Stoked are still on my list for the 360. PS3 has what this holiday? LBP? If you are judging games on scores then I guess so. Anyway, this game seems to be a love/hate. It's gotten some great scores and I expect nothing less from this Chris Kohler dude. I trust his opinion as much as I trust a blind and deaf persons when it comes to video games. He scores all Xbox games low.
Left for Dead is on PC also, and supposedly the PC version is better. @GiantEnemyCrab How come I haven't seen you trolling the recent news posts about KZ2, and the PS3 gaining ground on the Xbox?
its obvious opinions on banjo will be split...sort of like Too Human was...regardless though L4D doesn't seem all that to me...i will download the demo on the PC to check it out and if its good i'll rent but i can't say i am anticipating it
God you're an idiot RPG
I just wish you clowns would stop bagging on socom without actually playing it...its an awesome military shooter even with the glitches and with the updates it will only get better. I would take Socom over gears multiplayer anyday
I agree with Sonarus , funny to see ppl talking crap bout Socom even though they haven't played it, which is why when PS3 fanboys dog Gears nothing should be said... and doesn't Gears have glitches also..? Socom got patched and it's works well now and with future updates it's gonnabe the best online Tatical shooter without a doubt even though it already is..^.^..
Game Ever!!! Watch Your back Gears.
@Sonarus You wouldn't happen to be the exact same Sonarus playing Killzone 2 beta and killed me would you?
I can't stand it when people COMPLETELY disregard that L4D is also on PC. Its NOT exclusive no matter what way you try to use reason. It's NOT. GAHH
why is stuff like this constantly going on in the gamer zone?...no need to keep the safety on in the open zone, that is why its there...but this zone seems to be switched to full auto just as often... L4D, being available on the PC or not, is irrelevant...the game will be awesome...lame Source graphics or not...the game will be awesome...No one will buy it for PC anyway...Game for Windows Live or whatever that xbl knock off is sucks...anyone that cares about playing the game online will get it for the 360, as people will actually be able to play the game with friends rather than constant strangers...as PC gaming constantly reminds us, its retardedly complicated to keep track of friends when nothing is unified... I do see how some would lash out at 360 users because of this game...it was the 'LBP killer' everyone shouted about all year...and it apparently sucks...anyone that follows anything related to Rare understands that the by out a decade ago resulted in the company completely changing...its not the same Rare...the games Rare makes will not be the same...ever... but yeah...Fable 2, Gears 2, and L4D will easily keep the 360 fanbase happy this season...I have no idea why one 360 user would have been excited about this game anyway...its a casual game for a hardcore audience...and MS is going to have to change a whole lot more than price, and offering one poor game to casual gamers, to change that user base... MS may be losing the casual market like crazy to Nintendo, but so is Sony...and if MS is serious about Sony being their only real competition right now...they are more than set for the next few months...Killzone 2 is the only game on Sony's horizon to drastically change that...
Actually you can get R2 too, which is as good to say the least. So you have one game that has scored better than all xbox360 exclusives this year which are only 3 with 2 being AAA, you can still get MGS4 which has scored impressively, and you can get M2. EITHER WAY, I'm a fair person, and this review smells biased, I would understand a 7.0 or 7.5, but 5.0???
Wired magazine sure is harsh about their reviews.
Come on now, it's a banjo game, had to have scored better than that? I was hoping this game would score good, just because..well it's banjo. Edit: I do see his reasoning though, the old platforming/puzzle gone = lame banjo.
Wired can go jump off a cliff, there's no way this game can score that low. They obviously have some kind of grudge or hate against rare and microsoft. Just because of the game's art, humor and intuitivness, there is NO WAY it can score that low. Ugh, please people don't listen to this review...
Yeah, I just find it hard to believe A banjo game would score that low.
Well see it this way.. if Gears of War 3 stepped away from its original formula and became a dancing game.. would you rate it the same? It's understandable reviewers are dissapointed by the new Banjo because it's not even a glimpse of the perfect platformer it used to be.
"Wired can go jump off a cliff, there's no way this game can score that low. They obviously have some kind of grudge or hate against rare and microsoft. Just because of the game's art, humor and intuitivness, there is NO WAY it can score that low. Ugh, please people don't listen to this review..." Many people say that about many games on both systems. Why is it any different here? Because YOU like it? Reviews are opinions. Don't let the reviewer's influence yours.
nope, it's FAAAIL
Banjo could have been great but Rare completely ignored what we liked about the first two.
You see that second pic with the town in the far distance behind Banjo, if this was a pure platformer with no racing or building like the old Banjo that pic right there would make the score a 10, why oh why did they change the gameplay
And it's better than 5.0. I think the addition of vehicles was a bad idea, and would've preferred an out and out platformer, but it's not as bad as he's making it out to be. And it looks absolutely beautiful. And as for the original Banjo being a "sub-par Mario rip off"? WHAT THE HELL?
Genuine question here. Do you feel the vehicles were just a reaction to all the good press LBP was getting? Even if they had stuck exactly to the old model, do you think it would have been a better game?
you're not too bright are you! by the time lbp started getting regular good press, banjo had already been in production for a year or so. and because of all that good press, why would rare create a game where you build vehicles??? why not make a 2d platformer with a level creator aswell????????????? i'm shaking my head at the screen as i write this. and to answer your seond question. yes, a pure platformer would've been much better. i was gonna get banjo, but after the demo. forget it. it's a shame. the game looks amazing, and a platformer would've been a better choice imo. still, saved me some cash.
it ends around 7.5 7.5 to the right gamer can be his/her game of the year REMEMBER THAT
failed!! Trash!! Flop!! Don't try to fix what's not broken. Next time go back to the classic gameplay RARE, leave the cars and creating thing for other games. I think Microsoft was trying to counter LBP with this game but failed miserably. they [email protected] up a great game.
Even you could have made this game better.
just make it a pure platform game like on the '64 and u got yourself an AAA game
Bring back Conker and then RARE would be awesome again. Stop the kiddy crap. CONKER!!!!
Sounds like fun, but I'd rather they let it be then wreak it like Banjo and Perfect Dark.
Kameo=average perfect dark zero=mediocre viva piniata=average VP:trouble in paradise=fail now perhaps one of the best and sacred gems on the N64 Banjo:nuts and bolts=flop i sure hope they come back to the rare we use to know, because they use to be a tri-athelete, now they are more like a slow runner who is recovering from severe knee and ankle surgeries... I hope for the love of god when Killer instinct is made they don't kill that gem either.
Looking at the qualities of their games recently, Killer Instinct 360 wont be great either.
The person that said "the industry has left Rare behind" was spot on. Peter knew more about them than anybody else at the time and he called it. Sorry Rare, you were great in your day but now, well, it's just sad.
Face it. Rare have lost it. When you used to be top of the pile but your best game in 2 generations is Viva Pinata (which was fun I admit) its time to have a good hard look at yourself. And as a former huge fan it gives me NO pleasure to say that. The platform torch has long been passed on to Naughty Dog, Insomniac and now Media Molecule, (some of those levels in LBP are brilliant.)
... Mirror's Edge is a new standard in mature 3D platforming that really plays well. :)
I love the way you always appear on the few negative reviews. Where were you when 1up gave this game a 91? Where were you when IGN gave this game an 83? Where were you when Gamepro gave this game an 8??? Now your judging this game from a magazine that doesn't even do games???? LMAO. Just pathetic.
I was there saying the same thing. Rare have lost it and haven't made a great game since Perfect Dark or Bad Fur Day on the N64.
Stick to avatars Rare. Your usefulness has expired. FirstKnight, you forgot EuroGamer's 7, GameSpy's 7 and IGN UK's 6.5...
and when since has 1UP been known as a credible review site..? do you realise 1UP is the only website that actually gave this game a 9/10...??
Where were *you* when R2 was given a couple of 90's? Same thing goes for you. I'm very disappointed in Rare. They can do a lot better than that.
Danja, So you have a problem with 1up giving this game a 9 but you don't have a problem with Wired giving this game a 5??? At least 1up is known for video games. Ironman, When have I ever said that R2 was a bad game? If you look at my comments I have always said R2 is a great game and I cant wait to play it. Stop making up things.
FirstKnight And i love your Return of the living Dead avatar. Is the irony that your avatar is always searching for brains, while you yourself need one lost on everybody? If you read my post it wasn't just an excuse to jump on your latest flop and poke my tongue out with a hardy, hard, har, har. I rarely do that, no pun intented. It was my own lamentation at the lost of a developer who was once great, but has been pretty much sh*thouse since M$ bought them. Its like a really good friend got married to a b*tch and now he wont leave the house or have any fun anymore. I miss him, ok? Are you saying you're satisfied with Rares output since joining M$, because their track record was ALOT better with Nintendo and I'm not satisfied with it. As a XB and XB360 I get to make that decission for myself. You can live with it, or dont. Now I've kept this nonfanboy. I haven't boiled it down to I luv Sony, I hate M$. I've stated a specific problem I have with a specific developer and given my reasons. If you reply to me, kindly do the same or dont bother. PS I admit, I did take a little personal shot at you, but you're a super douche, you always are, hence you deserve it. Plus you attacked me first so action/reaction law applys and I shall sleep fine tonight, (once I actually go to bed. LBP has been keeping me up some freaky hours.)
are all considered flop scores by your fanboy standard which is why you were flaming the thread when Game Informer mag gave resistance 2 an 8.5... Please play by the rules you and your fankid partners herald at the dawn of this generation, and don't try to make it look like this game is any better.. because it's not. you better start eating from the same fork you spit on...
Please find one comment where I say Resistance is a flop. If you find one I shall gladly change my username to your liking. If you can't than go ahead and slap yourself across your forehead for me.
I thought so! Now please slap yourself across your forehead for me.... Thank you :)
Yeah, sure. You expect us all to believe that? Just now, you were attacking Little Big Planet because it didn't have over a million sales like Gears 2 when you know DAMN well this was only in the U.K. Don't play innocent dear.
NOT!!! Can you believe it!? They're charging 60 euros for this game here in Holland, because we've been blessed with 'localisation'(!) Nice marketing-move there, boys(!) Microsoft 'buying' rare was one of the dumbest things they've ever done. They would have been much better off using that money to buy (hire) some really great icons in gaming instead, like Tim Schafer (Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Psychonauts). Rare was great back in the SNES days, but nowadays: nothing.
a FLOP, so this is a flop I believe :D
anything named an exclusive that gets below 90 is a flop. thats what they call resistance, folklore, ninja gaiden 2, motorstorm, banjo:n&b, dead space, just about everything now a days,,, as a matter of fact they've even called LBP a flop. they just dont play by the rules they make up.. they change it all the while and defend there exclusives even when it's a complete and utter failure. N4G and fanboys, what more can you expect
Why do all you people bash each others consoles?It's sickening.I swear this site is filled with at least 90 percent fanboys.Can't you all accept that there are good games on both systems? 360: Lost oddesy mass effect gears ps3: Resistance 2 Little big planet Uncharted You people are so full of sh1t it drives me crazy.
according to Videogamer this game is better than R2 and Uncharted.
smoking r something cause this crappy game is no where near R2 and Uncharted
Can I remind people that this got a 91 on 1up and 83 on IGN? I know. Its not as good as the classics.. Buts its a banjo game. Stop n swop will be revealed. Its beed nearly 10 years BANJOS BACK!
Wow, 5/10 is a fail. What happened Rare!?
IF this game was on the PS3 it would be 1000 degree and be the top article of the day and would already have 200+ comment.. Comment like this: zomfg exxlussiz Epic fail ... Lair Anyone ? I remember how people bashed Lair without playing,, But how could they play it anyway certainly not on on their RROD piece of Turd. Go ahead and play your crappy attempt at Mario 64. Jump out while you can.
microsoft, direct funding to better game companies plox
at least gears i great. fable i s all right. left 4 dead will be good but its not exclusive. This game was childish anyway. honestly R2>/geow 2 i dunno i just dun lake the online as much as resistance. that my personal opinion however and many will disagree.
Didnt they say this was MS answer to Little Big Planet.... I guess NOT .
Who said that?
NO VEHICLES! I bet if Rare just remade the original Banjo with the current graphics of this Banjo, it would have been an awesome platformer that would have gave LBP some good competition.
Funny that the only 360 exclusive is crap, and Fable 2 and Gears 2 are coming to PC where they'll be better like the L4D PC version. Ouch, must hurt to have bought a steaming pile of sh!t you dumb 360 owners.
It's people like you that make me wish I didn't have a PS3. Why do so many PS3 fans have to be complete f-n morons? The 360's got some ridiculous fanboys, but sheesh PS3 fanboys are everywhere (outnumbering the 360 fans on this site something like 6 to 1) and so many of them are just plain jerks.
I cant see many people buying this.
Honestly I was kinda looking foward to trying it out just for the creation of Vehicles but now im not even going to bother, what other game can I go to created stuff...
ok so Sony has had its share of flops as well, but sadly for ms so far two of its flops have come from one single publisher/developer in rare. 1st it was perfect dark zero, now is this, whats next? according to rumors MS wants to make rare the most important company that it owns. if im to push bungie aside for rare and get these kinds of results than something or someone has to let ms know what the deal is. before its too late and both companies end up losing any creditability. im sorry but ms is better off buying epic at least they'll have an engine and a multi million dollar baby secured thats for sure. and although i know killer instinct 3 is coming, i just hope they don't mess this up either like they did with n64 iteration of the game. i know i sound like im exaggerating a bit but think about it, two flops from the same company? not good even sega can tell you that.
I tried the demo on the 360, and it stunk.......period! MS paid for the good reviews it got. I own a 360......so I am not a one console idiot,I am stating my opinion(and we all know opinions are like arse holes....they stink). Gears of War 2 is the shizzle!(IMO,that means it rules!)
I knew this would be garbage. Idiots kept hyping it like crazy anyways. Rare is dead - deal with it.