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Here is Metal Gear Solid 4 running in 4K with unlocked framerate on the PC via RPCS3 - DSOGaming

DSOGaming writes: "Today, we are sharing with you another video showing this PS3 exclusive game running in 4K and with uncapped framerate on the PC."

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proudly_X2069d ago

100% better than the crappy MGS5

UltraNova2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

I need a MGS4 remake so bad...one of my top 10 games of all time...

MGSV was not a crappy game, it was a great game with some of the best gameplay mechanics seen to that day, even if it was rushed out.

Reefskye2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

MGSV should of ended at chapter 1 boss fight then no one would of moaned lol was the only chapter that was finished properly

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KyRo2069d ago

I've never wanted to agree and disagree with someones comment so much in all my time here lol. MGS4 is absolutely a top 10 game of all time but MGSV was pretty bad. If it had not had MGS in the name it would of reviewed at 6s and 7s. Easily the worst mainline MGS game in the series.

WelkinCole2069d ago

oh come on. MGS5 is the weakest in terms of story but gameplay wise its second only to MGS3

Even as is MGS5 is better than most games out

Master of Unlocking2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

Gameplay-wise MGS V is even better than MGS 3 man. Way better.

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bluebenjamin2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

But but the Cell is too hard thats why no BC for Ps4 pro 😂 yeah right here we have it a team without the extensive knowledge of the ps3 architecture that sony has in possession of has unlocked framerate 4K in MGS4, But y’all believe whatever Microsoft,Sony and Nintendo tell ya, Theres absolutely no reason why the Ps4 cant run ps2 games thats just insane and for the Ps4 to be the first Playstation to not play ps one game is just a middle finger to people like me who grew up with Playstation was a Playstation underground kid looked forward to my demo disc of games, I still have ps one games that I like playing Soul Reaver,Twisted Metal 2, Tomb Raider 2, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil 2 Daul Shock vers, Dino Crisis 2,MGS,Sython Filter, Madden 2001 😂

bluebenjamin2069d ago

I'm glad you appreciated it and everyone commenting thanks for your input, but Movefasta1993 made an very interesting point

you need those specs to run it at 4k 60, but what about 720p 30 on a ps4. I still reckon of sony got a team of dedicated coders they could have done it.

I agree but let's say they couldn't just to move on to the vastly weaker generational 6 console not being supported was definitely a decision.@DarXyde you stated

Except it DOES, just not natively. Indeed, Sony has a PS2 emulator on PS4, but PS4 doesn't recognize DVDs. And if you didn't know that, you're seriously out of your depth in this conversation.

DarXyde put a DVD in your ps4 enjoy the movie thank me later

Mr_Writer852069d ago

@bluebenjamin

It's taken how many years to get this one game optimised on vastly superior hardware?

If you have proof that the PS4 can play PS3 games via emulation then please provide it.

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akaFullMetal2069d ago

"BSoD Gaming used an i7 8700k at 5.0Ghz with 16GB of RAM and an NVIDIA GTX 1080Ti. "

There's your answer, ps4 is no where near those specs. Clearly after ps3 Sony was hurting money wise and needed to make their next system to max profits and with that removed bc options.
Luckily next gen ps5 has bc with ps4 and possibly rumored with ps1,2 and 3 as well, but we'll see.

Movefasta19932069d ago

you need those specs to run it at 4k 60, but what about 720p 30 on a ps4. I still reckon of sony got a team of dedicated coders they could have done it.

umair_s512069d ago

Yeah, and rpcs3 has one or two full time coders...Sony could have done easily. There is no excuse for this with PS5. They need to deliver this.

jukins2069d ago

Sony was hurting moneywise at the end of ps3 and needed to make their next system to max profits? Lmao so why did Microsoft go the route they did?

Tapani2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

"BSoD Gaming used an i7 8700k at 5.0Ghz with 16GB of RAM and an NVIDIA GTX 1080Ti."

You have to understand that the system this is working between 20-60fps on 4K is around 3x the PS4 Pro GPU power, and the CPU difference is probably more than ten fold advantage for the i7 compared to the Jaguar CPU, plus the faster and bigger RAM and VRAM. And these emulators need a lot from CPUs. So roughly, you'd need around 5-8 PS4Ps to run this, because the CPU has more importance here. Even if devs had access to the source code and hardware, it cannot make up the difference. Yes, maybe in 1080p, but it would make more sense to just translate the code and do a remaster in 4K. Which is why we had more remasters than ever before from the previous gen.

The next gen Ryzen in PS5 could run PS3 games through emulation, sure, but not PS4 gen consoles, ever. Even on PS5 each game would need a lot of attention due to cell architecture, you can't just brute force games like MGS4 and hope it's going to be 4K 60fps magically. Also, PS5's GPU is allegedly slightly less powerful than GTX 1080ti which is used here, however, it won't have much of an impact if it's done through emulation.

esemce2069d ago

The PS5's GPU will be a LOT less powerful that a GTX 1080Ti.

jukins2069d ago

@esemce a lot less powerful but 4k60fps with ray tracing?

Cmv382069d ago

The fact that they getting a game from 06-07 running this great in 2019 should tell you all you need to know about the difficulties of the cell processor.

DarXyde2069d ago

"But but the Cell is too hard thats why no BC for Ps4 pro 😂 yeah right here we have it a team without the extensive knowledge of the ps3 architecture that sony has in possession of has unlocked framerate 4K in MGS4"

Oh boy... you know, it's pretty hard to emulate a console with a higher clock speed.

"Theres absolutely no reason why the Ps4 cant run ps2 games thats just insane"

Except it DOES, just not natively. Indeed, Sony has a PS2 emulator on PS4, but PS4 doesn't recognize DVDs. And if you didn't know that, you're seriously out of your depth in this conversation.

"I still have ps one games that I like playing Soul Reaver,Twisted Metal 2, Tomb Raider 2, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil 2 Daul Shock vers, Dino Crisis 2,MGS,Sython Filter, Madden 2001 😂"

Ok.

jukins2069d ago

Cant recognize DVDs? Tell me more about this lol cant recognize DVDs the shit people say on here amazes me

DarXyde2069d ago

jukins,

Yes. PS4 only "recognizes" it as an unsupported format.

Thus, it does not recognize it.

jukins2069d ago

I play DVDs all the time . . .

neutralgamer19922069d ago

Blue

So much wrong In one comment. Sony offered BC with ps3 yet it made very little difference

And these guys are running this game on great gaming pc which ps4 isn't equal too

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Computersaysno2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

PS4 almost certainly couldn't straight up emulate PS3 games like this powerful PC is doing. However if someone bothered to port the games over to run natively on PS4 then sure, it'll run fine, a lot better in fact just like all the other PS3 to PS4 ports out there.

I can't stress enough the difference between emulation like this and full porting like say The Last of Us remastered.

In one case (emulation) you're trying to run many of the complex unique hardware functions of the CELL in software which is very slow. In the other you're bringing all those functions across and recompiling/recoding the game by using the original source code to make them work on new hardware which is much faster for performance.

PS4's CPU is just not fast enough to emulate via software.

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jukins2069d ago

Tell me what spec PC their using to get these results and then com back and tell us how the ps4 can so easily do this

bluebenjamin2069d ago

Dosent have to be 4K 60 that PC achieved 4K not asking PS4 to produce 4K and also explain why your ps2 disc wont play in the Ps4 when a basic PC with lower spec can run Ps2 with better rez,aa,textures and framerates please explain

jukins2069d ago

Lol so you're saying PC can run ps2 games natively? Wow

bluebenjamin2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

@Jukins Are you saying it cant play ps2 dvd disc y’all obviously 🙄 dont have PC https://youtu.be/Of6XWqGxki...
What your Ps4 refuses to do all thanks to Sony

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Cmv382069d ago

Pretty sure it could run that well on the ps4. The game is rather old. A remaster would be great.

Imortus_san2069d ago

Just make the PS5 read all other Plastation consoles and we are done, would but it day one.

MazeRunner2069d ago

Since Konami refuses to make any more decent MGS games, how bout they remake MGS. They would sell like crazy

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX416d ago (Edited 416d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro416d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72416d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_416d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga416d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos416d ago (Edited 416d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23416d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000416d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin416d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole416d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix416d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989416d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor416d ago (Edited 416d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989416d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons727d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde727d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden726d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop726d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu726d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop726d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17726d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop726d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136726d ago (Edited 726d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984726d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster726d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989727d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon727d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

RNTody727d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon726d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

RNTody726d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon726d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden726d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt726d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989726d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90727d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden726d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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