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RPG Corner: Lightning Returns

Final Fantasy 13 ushered in Fabula Nova Crystallis, a brand-new series mythos defined by games featuring crystals whose significance were tied to Gods and/or God-like powers.

Its announcement seemed like a fresh start for the franchise with an aesthetically beautiful world ready to be explored in future entries. Fast forward to launch, however, and Final Fantasy 13's mixed reception poked holes in Square Enix's plans. While it featured dense lore, much of it was buried in menus, making it a haphazard investment for many people when coupled with the unbalanced distribution between cinematics and player agency.

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Teflon021796d ago

My only issue with lightning returns is the time limit honestly. Otherwise fantastic game

Darkwatchman1796d ago

The game gives you enough time to do everything. I completed all 5 main quests with 5 days left on the clock.

Teflon021796d ago

It's not about it giving you more than enough time. A time constraint in any form was my issue. Doesn't matter how simple it is. As a person who likes to 100% things and take my time. I hate the idea of something that is made to make you feel like your under any form of constraint. Even if new game plus exists. The only way I'm fine with time is like Persona, Trails of Cold steel etc. Where you decide on what you're doing before time goes forward. I play some games with time constraints and while the games I liked like Lightning Returns and the PS3 Atelier titles. As a person who likes to complete everything. Even if easy or not, it becomes a annoyance for me

Darkwatchman1796d ago

again, the game gives you more than enough time. There are other time-restrictive games that actually force you to micromanage carefully to make sure you can even complete the main story. I remember barely getting by the main story of one of the Atelier games. With this, I had 5 whole days left over JUST to do side quests. There some annoying side quests and canvas of prayer missions that are more bothersome than they're worth, but if I care enough to actively seek them out and the item drops I need, I'd be able to 100% the quests by the final day.

Other games of this nature, only give you enough time to beat the main story and do some side stuff if you're careful. This game gives you enough time to 100% it as long as you don't escape from battles constantly, which eats up an hour of time, but that's it. Lightning Returns has the clock to "pressure" the player, but it's actually incredibly lenient with how much time it gives the player to see and do everything.

rainslacker1795d ago

I'm playing Atelier sophie now, and they threw away the limited time mechanic. Instead, they went into weeks and weekends, so you have more time to casually do stuff, and don't have to worry so much about missing character story events...although there are apparently a couple that require you pay attention to the time.

rainslacker1795d ago

I didn't mind the time limit, but the time constraints and having to wait for certain things was a pain. Plus, too much potential to miss things if you didn't pay enough attention. It was like some of the atelier games, but without the interesting time mechanics.

Other than that, the biggest problem I had with it was that it threw away most of the lore of the first two games to make up a non-sensical plot which didn't have anything to do with anything that had been done before but to take away all the interesting aspects of the characters that did exist.

The game play was really good though, and what content was there for that was a lot of fun to play, and it had a pretty deep combat system.

Segata1796d ago

All 3 of the games are bad but this was easily the worst of the 3. On top of it just being bad it felt like the most budget of the 3. Meaningless sidequests. More corridors and bad platforming. Horrible story and a shit Majoras Mask mechanic.

AK911796d ago (Edited 1796d ago )

Lighting Returns should have been called Valkyrie Profile: Lightning Edition or something it’s not an FF game and meant to be a spiritual successor to Valkyrie Profile.

Elda1796d ago (Edited 1796d ago )

The worst out of the 3 especially with the time issue & the cheap graphics. FFXIII will always be my top favorite next to FFX.

FullmetalRoyale1796d ago

More like Lightning: Never Come Back.

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The Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Deserves a Remaster

Final Fantasy 13 was first introduced to us back in 2009, almost four years after Final Fantasy 12 was released, and fans had been eagerly anticipating the next installment. But when it finally arrived, there were mixed reactions, including complaints about its linearity, the lack of towns and NPCs, and the limited control over the characters. At the time, Square Enix kept its game production behind closed doors and didn't take in a lot of feedback — especially from Western fans.

The game has been revisited by many different Final Fantasy fans since then, and some, like myself, have come to love it again. Almost all staple entries in the series have found their way to modern consoles, so it's about time that the FF13 trilogy gets a remaster

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shinoff2183389d ago

I've been thinking about this. I agree. While I really disliked it at first I never played it again. After hating ff15 so damn much I just think it can't be worse then 15 and if I'm not mistaken atleast it's turn based. I need more of that in my life.

nitus10389d ago

I actually finished FFXIII and on the second playthrough found I actually liked the game.

Actually I have liked most of the FF games (I have not played FFIX unfortunately) and I do agree with you with regards to FFXV. Graphically IMHO FFXV is excelent but for some reason I just could not get enthusiastic in playing it.

As for "turn-based", I prefer active and real time although to be fair "turn-based" is a real plus especially when confronting a difficult protagonist. I found this to be especially the case when playing FFXXII where you could switch rapidly between "turn" and "active" although having a resonable knowledge of simple Boolean Algebra is IMHO essential when playing this game.

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Levii_92389d ago

Ridiculous comment, first of all i think you should replay 15, second of all that game is 10 times better than the XIII games especially the royal edition. And third .. turn based combat is a dying (almost dead) style of gameplay and i personally wont miss it at all so don’t act like that is some sort of big plus because XIII has it.. it is not.

jambola388d ago

Somebody needs to learn about subjective taste

shinoff2183388d ago

Ff15

Sucked imo. I don't need to give it another try. Last time was the 3rd time and I had 34 hours into it. It just wasn't good imo

Chriswynnetbh388d ago

How is turn based dying or almost dead? Pokémon is one of the biggest RPGs in the world and is and has always been turn based. To some it is a plus especially when it comes to FF since the first 10 of them all are and are arguably better games than any FF to come after

CDbiggen388d ago

XV was rubbish, but understandable given the development hell. That overworld for me is the biggest example, so strangely designed and empty. And parts of the story awkwardly cut for DLC, most egregious being that prompto part where he's like "I'm a clone", or whatever he was (it was that forgettable), and the other guys basically shrugging it off.

Tapani388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

Turn-based is alive and well: Pokemon, Dragon Quest, XCom, Civilization, Homeworld, Age of Wonders, Total War, Original Sin, Baldur's Gate, Warhammer, Yu-Gi-Oh, Company of Heroes, Wasteland, Pathfinder, Disco Elysium, Octopath Traveler, Chained Echoes and many, many more great games, both new and old, franchises and new IPs are selling well, reviewing well and sequels are coming.

If you don't play the game, maybe the turn-based has just died in/for you, but certainly the genre has never been so alive as in 2023! Plus, when you look at Final Fantasy franchise, it started going down in quality when it left turn-based combat behind. FFXVI may redeem some of the glory (and FFXIV was great), but the turn-based games were higher rated and deeper in terms of gameplay and had more interesting things to do in the world.

DarXyde388d ago

I'd say Persona 5 is one of the best of the best games in a couple of decades.

I don't think you manage that with a dying gameplay format.

shinoff2183388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

Levii92

Turn based is way funner imo then just some hack n slash rpg. I like both but prefer turn based.

Far as dying I doubt it. It's also kinda funny cause the best final fantasy have been turn based. Ff still to this day can't top ff6 through ff9. Interesting.

Far as someone who brought up persona 5. I dislike the art style so I've yet to play it but I'd throw dq11 in there. Best jrpg I've played in fkin years. Over a decade.

Last I was a bit iffy on chained echoes because of the sp and no traditional leveling system. I recently bought it. Looks gorgeous, story is fantastic so far, but I cannot for the life of me get over how much I truly hate the leveling system. It's just flat out whack to me. I'm still going to finish it cause unlike ff15 atleast chained echoes doesn't feel like a chore

goldwyncq388d ago

The XIII series (especially Lightning Returns) has far better combat than XV, and you don't need to watch an anime and a movie to make sense of the story.

FinalFantasyFanatic388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

15 was only fun for derping about in the wilderness, at least FF13 had a better story and was more coherent overall (plot, characters, gameplay, world, ect...).

15 was just beautify garbage, so much wasted potential, the Duke Nukem Forever of the FF franchise.

I really loved Persona 5, can't wait for P6 to be announced, I'd love ports of the first few games (we already have P3P/P4G/P5R available on almost everything now).

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sadraiden388d ago

People act like XV killed one of their family members. It wasn't the best FF ever, but it certainly wasn't a bad game. You "hated it so damn much"? Chill.

FinalFantasyFanatic388d ago

I agree, FF13 is better than FF15, but I don't think I can play through that trilogy again, I'd rather play one of the older games.

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-Foxtrot389d ago

Not really

Let them move on and focus on good FF games

Hofstaderman389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

Thank you. A ton of FFXIII articles recently. Most of the people who like this game are not old enough to have played 4 to 9. Even 10 and 12 are vastly superior to this game. That being said a remaster would then make all the FF titles available on the PS platform.

jambola388d ago

Citation needed
Do you have some kind of official survey of ff 13 fans ages?
Would love a link
Also, all games are available on multiple systems, re released many times
"Not old enough" doesn't even make much sense

shinoff2183388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

That was part of what I was trying to say. I've gave 15 3 try ff13 deserves atleast a second. And like I said I could use some turn based in my life

I've also played through or played all of the ff games starting with ff1 way way way back.

FallenAngel1984388d ago

They can easily do both