Why MGS4 Was Disappointing..

Solid series. Metal Gear Solid has a great blend of action, stealth, and story telling. Among that it has some of the best graphics we have ever seen and the best voice acting you can ever find in a game. Metal Gear Solid is my favorite series of all time, and now after playing four, I wish I have had less hopes for the game. Before you people trash me, the game is great, but just doesn't fit the Metal Gear standards..

[LightningPS3PS3]

Because it didn't have any drama in the story. Case closed

[Capital G]

this might also have been the reason why it flopped in sales for such a highly rated exclusive

personally the short singleplayer and poor excuse for online multiplayer killed the hole experience for me

[mikeslemonade]

MGS4 was the reason why PS3 outsold 360 in Q2. It sold systems that all that matters.

As far as the game goes i'm going to shock everyone and say yea I was dissapointed because MGS3 is secretly the best MGS game. MGS3 surpasses MGS4 with the bosses, the story, and the music. Also the camo system was much better because it let you figure out what camo was good. It doesn't hand feed you by changing the camo every 3 seconds.

[ultimolu]

...That's a joke, right?

And Capital G...if MGS4 did flop, then why oh why did the PS3 single-handedly outsold the 360?

Yeah, sure.

[Danja]

Short single player experience ? well considering this game is about 20 hrs without including cut-scenes i' d say that pretty good comparing to the length of most games these days..

I can list a bunch of big exclusive games that barely managed to clock 7 hrs into the single player campaign im looking at you (Halo 3 and Gears)

ne ways this is an epic game and certainly the best game i've played all year , the online part wasn't so hot , but who bought the game just for online ne ways ?

[HighDefinition]

Cause it ended?

[Pain]

bubbles for that~ oOooOoo

[Man_of_the_year]

HAHAHA more than 20 hours without cutscenes...did you even play the game...i finished it in 18 hours, first play through and 9+ of that was the cutscenes, which means i finished it in about 9 hours - my second time through i finished it in 6 hours and i have already posted a link to people who have finished the game in under 4 hours...let me see if i can find the youtube link....

Ah here it is... http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Funny how MGS4 is on a 50 gig blu-ray and yet the game can be finished in under 4 hours...while other games on a 9 gig DVD takes about what...7 hours on easy like you say...

Your comments fail like Zap Branigan's love...HArd and Fast

This "game" deserved no more than an 8/10 as it was hardly a game at all...However i heard that MGS4 is up for an Oscar.

[Danja]

Yes I did play the game dude !!

and not everyone likes to rush play through a game just to see how fast they can actually finish it...

[incogneato]

Why MGS4 Was Disappointing: So I can get traffic to my site by posting this on N4G

[iHEARTboobs]

@lightningPS3: It didn't have any drama in the story? What the hell were you playing?!

@capital G: It flopped? What game did it tear up that month? Oh yeah, NG2.

Anyhow, this guy didn't like it. Who cares, i loved it and so did countless others.

[pansenbaer]

Agree with you Danja. My first playthrough was about 35 hours watching every single cutscene and codec conversation. Obviously it can be played through in a lot less. You need less than 5 hours for the Big Boss emblem, which I got. I am on my seventh playthrough and I have yet to be bored. But to each his own, I suppose.

[ocalot2k5]

Those cutscenes...are they part of the game? I wondere. Or maybe tell me if you've seen someone go through the whole game for the first time and beat it under 10 hours let alone 4? POINT: IF you map out a game....any LINEAR game...you can beat it in less than the actually time. And yes mgs4 is a point a to b game but with things you can do in between

[Man_of_the_year]

Your post said that its 20 hours...but the game is not 20 hours. it is 4 straight through. That is pathetic even for a game if you just run through.

I agree that not everyone will just try and rush through it, but show me a game (don't just tell me but show me) that is atleast an 80 on metacritic that can be completed in in under 4 hours.

Its funny how i got a disagree on my first post and i even posted visual proof...wow the denial in some people is really set deep within them...

This game was way over rated. Great Movie. Terrible game.

[kornbeaner]

I can get through CoD4 in under 4 hours if I rush through it. So I guess that game is a flop as well huh?

Also Do you know how long people have to practice to get through MGS4 in under 4 hours? I know somebody who did it in under 5 hours, but it took him about 20 hours to get that done, cause he kept fvcking up.

So go troll somewhere else.

[Man_of_the_year]

Better read what i requested - i said show me don't tell me....I gave you visual proof - heck i will even accept a link to a site that talks about being able to complete COD4 in 5 hours...show me don't tell me because i won't believe the lies of a Sony Fanboy. And even if it was only 5-6 hours on easy straight through its still only on a DVD 9 not a 50 gig blu-ray.

If you cannot produce proof than i will assume you of are the ignorant kind and just think that Level headed people will just believe the Crap that you say is fact.

And who is trolling - look at the title of the article...i am agreeing with the statements made by the writer of the article...

You really are on the lower side of the IQ spectrum.

[Aclay]

@ Capital G,

You think that MGS4 flopped in sales?

When MGS4 came out, the PS3's installbase was probably somewhere around 15 Million and so far MGS4 has sold 3-4 Million copies.

Do you realize that MGS3 didn't even sell 4 million copies and the PS2's installbase was probably near 100 million or over 100 million whenever that game came out?

MGS4 has sold considerably well so far considering the PS3's much smaller installbase and as the PS3's price drops and as more people are able to afford a PS3, I see MGS4 selling even more.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is not a "mainstream" game that everyone can just pick up and play. I don't give a damn if MGS4 doesn't sell more than Halo 3 because MGS4 is a game for the TRUE FANS of the series... MGS4 is a game that has it's own niche audience and the game has sold well and it's one of the greatest games of this generation so far.

I think it's really stupid how Xbox 360 fanboys measure the greatness of a game based on sales.... ICO and Shadow of the Colossus are considered just a few of the greatest PS2 games, but ICO didn't even sell over a million. Shadow of the Colossus did sell much more than ICO did and I know that it sold over a million, but you can't base everything just on sales.

[Homicide]

MGS4 was disappointing. I'm a metal gear fan, and this game was just blah! The story wasn't good until Act III. Its too actiony. It's suppose to be a stealth game. This isn't the Metal Gear Solid I fell in love with. Also the AI is stupid, even on solid normal. Also, there were a lot of useless cutscenes like the wedding one.

[kwicksandz]

I have finished the game and the only way i think you could have gotten 20 hours out of it was leaving it on pause all night.

[JsonHenry]

At the idiot above that said it helped outsell 360 and that is all that matters should die a horrible death and rot in a gutter.

If a game falls short (IMO MGS4 fell way short of previous MGS games) then it sucks for us, the gamers. I am NOT in sony's pocket and am not sold on a game just because it helped pushed consoles. I want games that are good. Not a game that was sub par and had more movie than gameplay.

Take your fanboyism to the open section please.

[littletad]

No way was MGS4 20 hours. I played it and ran every cut scene without skipping. Total play time was 10 hours, rounded off. And I didn't rush either. And Big Boss Extreme was beaten in 13 hours. So... 20 hours is kinda odd.

[Danja]

Well it took me 20 hrs on Big Boss Extreme , while trying to unlock Big Boss Emblem...

not everyone will get the same play through time , so to say my time sounds odd is just foolish.

it was 20 hrs well spent I bought the game and I got the most bang for my buck .....whats the sense of rushing through the game and not seeing everything it has to offer.

[ReservoirDog316]

To say that it didn't have any drama in the story is ridiculous. Just look at all of Act 4 and the microwave corridor in Act 5.

The only bad thing I can say about MGS4 was that the controls made the game kinda easy if you get caught. Like in MGS3, you had to struggle to fight off everyone if you got caught because of the controls. But in MGS4, it was to easy to get headshots for just about everyone you came across without any repercussions.

Of course that problem is solved if you just limit yourself to about 3 clips of your handgun without a silencer for the whole act. That really makes you work harder to not get caught because you know you probably won't survive the fight.

Also, you stop fearing the gekko after Act 2 because you learn that it just takes a headshot to kill it. I really didn't like that because I wanted a long fight every time a gekko spots you.

[Tarasque]

Actually the very first play through for me was right at 10 hours total time played. I skipped every cut scene besides 2 i think, and its kinda retarded that you can run through the map and load the next section and skip that entire section. What kinda retarded game design is that.

[mindedone]

I believe there is an Achievement/Trophy for GTAIV for finishing the game under a half hour. I think it is considered a AAA game.

[ape007]

I think mgs 3 was much better,sure mgs 4 has high production values to the roof but the cutscene-gameplay ration wasn't balanced

there are many many cutscenes in the game and codec talks,

mgs 3 was more epic than 4.the gameplay parts in mgs3 were outstanding,while mgs 4 has some disappointments.act 1 and 2 were amazing but 3,4 and 5 has more cutscenes than actually playing(especially act 5) and the boss fights in mgs 4 can't touch those epic fights in mgs 3

mgs 3 was much longer game(gameplay time,in mgs 3 I remember I played way more than watching,in mgs4,I feel like I watched more than I played tbh

you know I finished mgs 4 for the second time skipping the movies and believe it or not the game ends in less than 3 hrs and 22 min on solid normal

[jaysquared]

Its kind of hard to argue with PS3 fans who say MGS4 was disappointing. Sounds like 360 fans isn't missing much for now.

[JoySticksFTW]

MGS4 is as long or short a you want it to be.

I play it stealthy, constantly crawling and sneaking and I didn't bumrush bosses my first playthrough. I hid and let them come to me, while waiting for my perfect opening to strike. So my 1st playthrough is over 20 hrs without the cut scenes.

Super Mario Bros can be completed under 5 minutes. I guess that's flop, sorry excuse for a game as well

trolls, gotta love 'em :D

[Toolster]

SIMPLE, IT WAS'NT!!!

[FCC]

"...That's a joke, right?

And Capital G...if MGS4 did flop, then why oh why did the PS3 single-handedly outsold the 360?

Yeah, sure."

The PS3 didn't "single-handedly" outsell the 360... It got help from MGS4. Some people might think it's a flop because people have said that the game will bury the 360 but it only put 200 000 consoles over the 360. Me personally think it was a satisfying game when I was PLAYING it.

I've played the MGS series since the PSX days, up to MGS3. I've also played the Splinter Cell series from the Xbox up to now with the somewhat disappointing DA. I love espionage games.

The best MGS game so far was MGS2 in terms of story... The MGS4 story is so convoluted and cliched that it was ridiculous. Maybe if I was immersed into the game, I'd enjoy the game enough to like watching the 90 minute cutscene. I watched a good amount of that cutscene but damn, it was unbearable that I skipped a little over half way through. The one cutscene with Meryl was the right amount of time for MGS even though it was 8 minutes.

MGS4 wasn't a disappointment for me... Just kind of cheesy. Plot twists don't make a story good... There was a plot twist every other cutscene in MGS4 that I just kind of lost it.

Disagree away because I didn't like every bit of MGS4, I know you guys are going to anyways. Can't really disagree with an opinion.

@mindedone

"I believe there is an Achievement/Trophy for GTAIV for finishing the game under a half hour. I think it is considered a AAA game."

It's I think under 20hrs or something, definitely not 30 minutes... The repetitive chase missions prevent a 30 minute game.

[Ren]

ROFL xD.

OMG , you are the best MGS player ever , there are 9+ of cutscenes(9:15-9:30 most likely) yet you managed to do it in 10h , you finished the game in 40m , *bows* you are my hero.

It took me 24h to finish the game on my 1st playthrough , wich is about 15h of gameplay , i finished Gears of War faster than that cutscenes included(even though there are few).

Im on my 25th playthrough , so along with MGO i have probably clocked over 200h on this game.

[calis]

Average reviews are around mid to high 9s (per metacritic)
It has sold 3 - 4 million and pushed PS3s.

That is proof it isn't a flop.

Now whether people didn't like it is another story, but it certainly isn't a flop.

[bouncybullet]

Ren,
I too played for about 11 hours.

watched for 9.

Thats pretty lame.

Also, it's very hard for me to belive that you're on your 25th playthrough. Because only the biggest loser in the world would sit through those bullsh*t installs between EVERY CHAPTER, EVERY TIME YOU PLAY THEM.

not just once, every time.

I will never play it again because of that reason alone.

[calis]

Only the biggest loser in the world would assume what people do with their time and assume they are right and others are wrong.

If he is on his 25th playthrough, good for him. Who are you to tell him he is a loser for installing the game?

[Fishy Fingers]

Whaaa? For a game he was disappointed by, he seems to have a lot of good things to say about it. Only "doesn’t fit the Metal Gear standards.", that's the disappointment? Ok....

Another high quality blog post....

[The Matrix]

Snake eater was my favorite.

[johover112]

Metal gear solid 4 was my favorite, then comes Metal gear solid 2, but i hate articles like this. Just like GTA4, some ass makes a article like "10 things i hate about gta4" or "5 top worst reasons" after months of the game's release. just stupid, watch in about 4 months someone is going to write "5 reasons Resistance 2 sucks"......by that time NO ONE WOULD CARE!

[Sevir04]

i would have given him props for having the balls to say that about the game just days after it came out. but this is 5 months late and way too opinionated and false. In other words this game flew over his head and he didn't even catch it until just now... his site must be low on traffic, and i'm sure some xbox fankids needed to rile up some PS3 fans with all the positive PS3 games news and PWNAGE they've been giving to the xbox fankids here on N4G? so here we have a classic case of PS3 hate/MGS4 hate because the game is On PS3 exclusively...

PS3 fans laugh it up, this is simply hilarious... The xbox fankids have to find blog post about a game that release 5 months ago to feel good... it's nothing to see people, Move along. buisness continues as usual

[FCC]

"wow happyface must fof got a happy face when this blog got posted
another fankid shares your negative veiw on the PS3 and it's "exclusive"... the game scored too high for you all to call it a flop, so now you all call fud and say the game sold low... whatever makes that happyface of yours...

i'm sure deep down if this game was announced and release on the 360 you'd be happy and get ready to play it and call it the second coming and the end of the PS3... Please please please... i dont know what is more pathetic, the fact that you are a troll and cant even troll with facts or the fact that you troll and dont know what you are trolling about... ----> xbox360 tab."

Hypocrisy x10. How many times have you seen an 360 hate article on the headlines? Twice as much as the PS3 hate articles. You're way off topic, and you're probably a troll to boot. The Open Zone tab is for both PS3 owners and 360 owners that decide to be childish. I see way more PS3 owners in there...

FBI
Lanoire
Sir_Ken_Kutaragi
ThatCanadianguy420
tatsujin
sushipoop
Harri4444
Ali_The_Brit_
belal
tatsujin

There's probably more, they way outnumber 360 fanboys in there.

[The Lazy One]

MGS1 had the best story, MGS3 had the best gameplay, and I would not buy MGS4 if it were released on the xbox 360.

[Kain81]

Kojima brought us a MASTERPIECE.

[happyface]

it was a master piece of something....

If it was so good why were the sells so low?

why does NO ONE play MGO?

[TheColbertinator]

@Happyface

I still play MGO.In fact I enjoy it more than MGS4 since its all action .As for why less people play it,check out the Konami forums complaining about Konami ID's.If Konami got rid of that,more people would be playing today MGO where it should be,on PSN.

Also games dont have to sell to be good.Few people bought Okami and Beyond Good and Evil and yet they were great games.Not only that but games that suck like Carnival Games and Wii Fit are selling more than the best 360 and PS3 games

[ocalot2k5]

Are you serious? It sold 3 million in 2 weeks, by now its sold over 4 million copies....its tracking better than mgs3 which might be the better game but only by mgs standards. MGO doesn't have lots of players coz of the konami ID. Hell, even konami anounced its profits jumped to plus 88% due to mgs 4! goodness!

[ultimolu]

happyface...you don't know what you're talking about.
Please stop. >:/

[Sevir04]

another fankid shares your negative veiw on the PS3 and it's "exclusive"... the game scored too high for you all to call it a flop, so now you all call fud and say the game sold low... whatever makes that happyface of yours...

i'm sure deep down if this game was announced and release on the 360 you'd be happy and get ready to play it and call it the second coming and the end of the PS3... Please please please... i dont know what is more pathetic, the fact that you are a troll and cant even troll with facts or the fact that you troll and dont know what you are trolling about... ----> xbox360 tab.

[gamesmaster]

splendid!

[ThatCanadianGuy]

I don't care what anyone says.Best game i've ever played.
And my personal game of the year.

[YogiBear]

Snake's swan song. To all the Metal Gear fans out there our hero went out with a bang.

[badz149]

I've never played any MGS games before but MGS4 simply blown all the other games I've played my entire life out of the water! for me, MGS4 is the best game ever! and for the haters...I don't care what you wanna say about MGS4 and how it's a dissapointment because I LOVE IT!!

[solidsnakus]

i dont know about you guys but as a MGS fan since MGS1 for ps1 i gotta say that honestly MGS3 was the best one.

[ape007]

100% agreed,am a hardcore mgs fan

finished 1 on ps1 and gc,beat 2 many times,finished 3 a number of times,played the game boy color mgs game,played mgs:po,beat mgs 4

and yes mgs 3 was the best mgs game ever,mgs 4 without a doubt has higher production values and amazing graphics but as a game.mgs 3 all the way

[rockleex]

MGS3 is the best MGS.

Why? You played Big Boss before he was Big Boss. You found out how he became Big Boss. The ending song Star Sailor - Way To Fall fit perfectly with Big Boss's story. Etc etc.

MGS1 is the next best, it WOULD have been first, but the ending didn't leave a feeling as great as 3.

MGS4 is third because although its as awesome as 1, I felt like certain parts of the story and cutscenes were forced because Kojima HAD to answer every little question.

MGS2 is very good also. Unlike most people, I loved the story and Raiden... although he couldn't stand against Snake back then. The reason why its last is because the story is a little confusing and too convoluted.

The ending didn't really explain what happens to Fortune, Olga, Snake, and Liquid. Although Snake later met up with Raiden in the city, it was kind of weird because Snake jumped off of Arsenal to go after Liquid in the Ray. It felt like the story was just cut off, and Kojima declared it as The End. Which was also why people prompted for a sequel.

MGS2 felt incomplete. It also did little to upgrade from MGS1's gameplay mechanics. Although it was a great game, it became last place because of these problems.

Anyways, MGS2 was incomplete, MGS3 was Kojima's answer, MGS3 was a sequel, so Kojima had to answer with the true answer... which was MGS4. But MGS4's problem was that it HAD to answer all the questions. Yet some things are still unknown, such as the events that took place directly after the ending of MGS2.

Maybe MGS5 will be a prequel again? The prequel to MGS4 but sequel to MGS2?

Anyways, MGS 1 and MGS3 were the truest MGS's. They weren't incomplete, or limited to accomplish certain criterias. Kojima was able to fully realize his creativity with these two. Which is why they're the top two. But MGS3 slightly beats MGS1 because of its ending. ^_^

[bouncybullet]

badz.
If you had played any of the earlier games you would understand.

This game was the most visually stunning game I've seen in a while.

But story wise....?

If I didn't get a kick out of the over-the-top voice acting by Hayter and the crew, I would turn off the sound and imagine an actual plot that makes sense.

I feel like kojima wrote this one on a toilet paper roll.

Very long.
But held together by dreams and wishes.

[DA_SHREDDER]

I still think Hideo should have just made a new Zone of the Enders instead. Just imagine all the seamless gameplay and particle effects that Kojima could have brought to the table with that game? The online would have been better then Metal Gear online in every way as well. Jehuty could be Sony's true mascot.

[rogimusprime]

Zone of the enders can't stand alone like MGS4 can. He's still going to make it though. ZOE 2 was a sleeper hit (still bought it on day one though)

[theEnemy]

Yep.

Game of the Year for me too.

Nothing else comes close. :)

I pity those who didn't enjoyed MGS4.

[GWAVE]

Yeah, it's easy to bash a game 8 several months after its release...

Grow a pair, Mr. Blog Writer. Your personal opinion is simply that: an opinion. In my opinion, MGS4 is the best MGS game in the series. It exemplifies everything that makes MGS so great, and it ends the series in a way that will never be forgotten.

[YogiBear]

MGS4 was bad ass but MGS1 is still my favorite. One thing sequels can never give you is that original shock value that the first game had.

[PirateThom]

OK, I'll bite.

Metal Gear Solid 4 did answer all the questions posed by the series... the problem was, it asked as many new ones as were answered. The point of the Patriot's is that they were followers of The Boss, I'm not sure what the writer was expecting from them. Frankly, the answers more than satisfied me. I don't see what is so ridiculous about the Patriot's being formed from people who believed in the greatest Patriot of all's vision.

Complaining about Vamp is the same as complaining about Fortune's ability to deflect bullets, only to find it was a trick of science. It's the same principle and parallels between the games is something Kojima has used effectively.

Complaining about the level variety? OK... I can't argue with that, because there's some parts that aren't "Metal Gear" like, but that's the point, it's a "whirlwind tour" across the world with different objectives. Honestly, I thought the boss fights were pretty good, even though two were a blatant fan service, the rest were decent fights. Also, if you couldn't predict Snake's mother at the end of MGS3, well, what?

So, no, you Sir, are a fake.

[ocalot2k5]

Again are you just saying that just because? it answered

Who major zero was
Who were the patriots (the likes of medic and zero)
Why ocelot was acting all liquid
What happened after mgs3 all the way up to mgs 1
Who the serogate of snake, liquid and solidus was
What happened to eva
Why ocelot was acting as a triple agent and what were his motives
I could go on and on and on .....Kojima even told us who the lalelilolu were for goodness sake!

My point.............when a series has a 20 year history that wasn't written in stone and a 20hour games answers almost all the questions there is no way in hell you can tell me it gave more questions than answers!
THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT POINT...ARE THE PEOPLE ASKING THIS PLAYED THE REST OF THE GAMES? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!

[Voozi]

lol preach on!

+bubbles

[livespawn]

the only thing i found disappointing was the lack of gameplay around the end. for now its my favorite for the year, that may change in the weeks ahead though.

[PS3CELLGRILL]

I JUST ENDED MGS4 AND THE GAMEPLAY WASN'T REALLY NEEDED IMO I THINK IT WAS TACT ON BUT STORY WAS HARD TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THEY KEPT COMING EVERY TEN MINUTES.....BUT ONE THING I NEED TO KNOW IS WHEN THE GAME FIRST STARTED SNAKE WAS AT THE CEMETERY WITH A SUIT ON AND AT THE END WHEN MERYL GOT MARRY SNAKE WAS AT THE SAME CEMETERY WITH THE SAME SUIT ON WITH BIG BOSS WAS THAT THE SAME TIME AS THE FIRST OR DIFFERENT TIMES.....ONE MORE THING DO THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE ENDING BECAUSE I HEARD SNAKE DIE.....GO OBAMA

[Sevir04]

ok i'm going to say this as tactful as possible.... ahem... STOP F**** TYPING IN BOLD LETTERS IT MAKES< IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE SHOUTING!!!!!!!!! GEEZ!!!!

There is no need for all that wall of text...

[steck67]

Yea, what livespawn said. I was expecting a little more gameplay for MGS 4. But the game is still one of the greatest this gen.

[strotee]

It was very disappointing that it ended.

[FPSJunkie]

Take that Sonydroid! FACE IT YOUR GAMES ARE GARBAGE AND NOT AAA
1) Motorflop
2) littlebigflop
3) flopistance
4) MGflop4
5) flopingly sword
6) flopping and clank
7) flopcharted
8) floppy rain
FACE IT MGflop4 WAS A FLOP! DEFINITION OF FLOP! HAHAHA SONY DROIDS!

[DavidMacDougall]

Stopped reading after that hope you enjoyed wasting your time

[ultimolu]

...You 360 fanboys are going crazy. O-o
I suppose all of you will commit suicide by next year.

[Gue1]

poor @FPSJunkie . ;-(
he doesn't know what a good game is even if jesus came to tell him:"FPSJunkie this is a real good game". he couldn't understand because he's too retarded to even mention a couple of real Flops like: Too Flop, Infinite Flopery or Ninety-Nine Flops but i understand my child, not everybody born with a healthy mind.

poor child. ;'(

[ArsArcanum]

lol... floppy rain

[IzKyD1331]

FPSjunkie, you just named 8 awesome titles that you can't play

[FPSJunkie]

I'll EVEN GIVE U MY PSN ID I HAVE ALL THE GAMES FOR IT

[IzKyD1331]

^^ than that makes you a retard....but I seriously doubt you have one

[Snake Raiser]

The guy who wrote the review is a cleverly disguised Xbox fanboy. He starts off real nice... saying that the game is great. Then at the end of page 2 finally shows that he is a real fanboy. I could see his point and disagree respectfully until he said MGS4 was 6 hours long at most. That just set off fanboy alert in my mind. I was so slow it took me 30 hours my first time. I still only have it down to 16. I do have to give the guy credit for making me start listening and believing ever word he said with that smooth page 1. All nice and complementing the game, but he blew it at page 2. I know this is kind of random, but I just put down a whole lot of my thoughts here.

The first answer is so funny. He just gave us a list of all the great games we have. Now he can't say we have no games. Do you think he is that annoying guy who keeps coming back after we de-bubble him?

[FPSJunkie]

@ IzKyD1331 add me my name is Era-Ban I'll show u the games I gOt

[Grimlock]

dont laugh much, but u sir made me spit out my coffee...

bubbles for u sir!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA!!!

[Stubacca]

It's really quite enjoyable how mental these X-bots are getting. I can't believe this article was submitted. MGS4 is my favourite game ever. It's like turning around today and saying Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture is a bit disappointing. It's a masterpeice. Accept it.

X-bots make this site so entertaining though. Keep it coming.

[Tarasque]

Dood, that is some funny shot even though i like some of them games. It is still funny.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

The xBox 360 is a big Disappointment!!! ;-D

@FPSJunkie please Overdose!!! ;-D

[Harri4444]

Obvious Troll
Is obvious

[NickIni]

"2) littlebigflop"

Oh yes. The game by a small, unproven developer from England, has achieved the second highest metacritic score for exclusive games this gen, beating every 360 exclusive, and you say it flopped?

And then "4) MGflop4"

A game with well over a dozen 10/10 scores, and you think it flopped?

Haha.

[Mr Fancy Pants]

i'm going to buy an X360 and then come here and start saying that it such because that gives me more privilege to criticize it. ;-)

if you're a fanboy no matter what system you have that changes nothing! i have a Wii and i hate it but there are people that loves it and that doesn't makes my opinion more or less valid...

[omodis420]

I couldn't disagree more. I loved this game. The graphics were beautiful. The story was a little hard to follow. But the awesome level design and game play were absolutely sick. It's not my favorite game. I rented it. But I have to say that out of all the PS3 exclusive's it is right up there with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword for me.

[jamesrocks3147]

....

[squall2099]

;lololol ps3 sucks

[ultimolu]

...I'll order that straight jacket for you right away. o-O;

[IzKyD1331]

I'll get the meds!

[InMyOpinion]

While you're at it get yourself a girdle and one of those electric shopping carts as well. It must be hell having to carry those extra pounds.

[ultimolu]

...Would you like a straight-jacket as well Jenzo? I can order two because...frothing at the mouth and throwing insults at me indicates that they might have to take you away too. .-.

[FantasyStar]

Stopped reading at "blog."

[kazan]

lol this site should be renamed as www.N4Blogs.com

[Denges]

bcoz this guys acouple months too late

[ultimolu]

Like I give a damn.
I intend to beat this game and enjoy it.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

Didn't all the approval people take a test and agree to a TOS?

This is a BLOG post of some unknown hack's opinion.

[Bigrhyno]

This isn't blogs4gamers.com

[swissarmyshank]

I applaud you, sir.

[milesd6]

He's right. The game has no objectives or anything. Everything is predictable. I enjoy metal gear online even though it is pretty lame. They should have stuck with the one giant map theme, and told us to look for liquid using actual espionage. The game is incredibly linear and either sneaking or killing everyone is pointless, because enemies generate constantly. It's a great experience the first play through. I nearly cried. But the game has little replay value.

[milesd6]

....and when people die or get crushed by giant objects, they should die and stay dead. MGS4 was stupid. Pretty much everyone should have died.

[omodis420]

No objectives. Are you high? Did you even play the game? Every game including the worst games of all time have objectives.

[ocalot2k5]

Yeah am sure the better games aren't predictable and are oscar worthy.....even better than LOST. In the other games we don't know what kind of aliens show up.MGS4 sucks.

[Aclay]

@milesd6,

MGS4 has little replay value?

You can't even unlock everything in MGS4 by playing the game one time.

When I played MGS4 for the second time around, I found items and guns that I didn't find the first time and I went in places that I didn't go in while during my first playthrough.

MGS4 is still my favorite MGS game and is one of my favorite games of all time.

I don't think that anyone can fully appreciate MGS4 unless they have been following the series since the beginning or unless they have played the previous MGS games before playing MGS4.

MGS4 didn't need to come out on the 360 either because true followers of the MGS franchise have always been Playstation console owners period.

[milesd6]

What I mean is that you go to point A to Point B to find someone. That's about all there is. When you get there, you don't really do anything. There is just another long cut scene. Think about all the stuff you have to do in splinter cell. You don't do any of that.

[Gerry]

FPSJunkie your a wanker, I bet your some obease unemployed bum living in your mums basement with nothing else better to do than troll PS3 stories all day, you fu*king loser. Stick with your Xbox section and GTFO.

Typical of an Xbox user.

[jkhan]

I think its one of my favorite games of all times. It was the only game that delivered on my insane amount of hypes. Yes the only flaw was that some cutscenes were too long and if you are not a die hard fan then you won't be able to follow it properly. But to say it only have 3-4 hours of gameplay is totally a lie. I played the game on hardest difficult and I skipped the whole cutscene's etc and it took me around 11-12 hours. With cutscenes it took me 18 hours. The gameplay was perfect, the graphics, the animation, the sound and the level design were all perfect. This is one of the best games of all times.

[Jubo1]

this is my favorite game of all time hands down.

[BRACHATTACK]

Its a god damn blog, not news worthy, just some jealous xbot looking for hits

[Neo604]

jealous with no taste of genius.

[poeo]

anyone else have a totally sick love/hate relationship with MGS4?

when i played the first 2 acts i was like "WOW BEST GAME EVER!", seriously it really felt that damn good, i can remember some of the most exciting gaming moments i've ever had, especially the very beginning when the opening cutscene turns seamlessly into gameplay and there's geckos and rebels running around (CRAZY exciting). also the taking sides mechanic was completely new and just great.

but then to find out that the remaining acts didnt have NEARLY as much gameplay (on-rails gameplay like the motorcycle chase didnt count for me, it too felt too much like a cutscene), i was so sorely disappointed i felt cheated.

so yeah what im saying is that im one of those people who hated the constant and overblown cutscenes.. but i absotelutely LOVED the gameplay, that's what makes it so tragic. i mean, there were so few areas to sneak through, i didnt even use half of the weapons because i kept thinking i'll use them in later scenarios!

once again, i really really really LOVED controlling Old Snake and just sneaking around everywhere, planning my aproach.. the most exciting gameplay ever, i can never forget how good it was. BUT THERE WASN'T NEARLY ENOUGH OF IT! not even close!!!

oh well, MGS5 is almost confirmed, it will most likely concentrate more on gameplay like MGS3 did :) it will be 11/10.

[ocalot2k5]

Now thats how you put a point. I was dissapointed with the last 3 acts. But I was thinking maybe Kojima got up to the second and he ran out of funds for the rest of the game. Might be why game was delayed. Coz if you look at the enviroments if only kojima added foot soldiers...ONLY FOOT SOLDIERS THE game would be far better. I think thats why mgs3 still has the upper hand. It was captivating till the end

[crillyconlig]

he didnt even make a complaint or explain his problems in his blog??

[omodis420]

You had to keep reading it. There are page 123 markers that are really small. I thought the exact same thing at first.

[DNAgent]

It wasn't disappointing. I mean maybe the Xbots are disappointed that their system can't handle it but the game itself isn't disappointing at all.

[omodis420]

This is one of those games that just gets better and better as it goes on. I loved fighting crying wolf.

[Arcturus]

because i payed $60 for a movie. nuff said

[unjust]

A movie not a game I'm sorry but the cut scene genre of the late 80's to early 90's is over don't cover a game up with your movie the game is supposed to be played like a movie not the opposite.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Strange..i felt that way when i bought Mass effect.

Only instead of a captivating storyline,intense cut-scenes.And silky smooth frame-rate (ala MGS4) I got a horrible game where i spent
75% of it stuck in ridiculously long conversations with dull A.I

The other 25% was spent trying to get through the choppy frame-rate.

[Arcturus]

dude are you retarted... kojama even said himself that its possible on 360. at least if it were on a DVD 9 there wouldn't be a 21 hour movie and a playable game

[ultimolu]

Then why isn't it on the 360 yet?

[TheMART]

So Juuken why did you change your name?

You lost too many bubbles on the old one?

A fat biatch stays a fat biatch, different name or not.

Go hit that Wii fit again girl you go girl you go!

[ultimolu]

Oh dear, may that another straight jacket for Mart as well.

[TheMART]

You will stay Juuken for me forever, the new name is simply too positive for the person it has to reflect.

Bye bye my dear Juuken

[Man_of_the_year]

"Then why isn't it on the 360 yet?

Thats a pretty stupid comment - so because an exclusive game is not on the other console - then its because the other console can't handle the game?

So going by your rational - GEARS 1 & 2 cannot be done on the PS3, Fable 2, Mass Effect Forza 2...all could not be done on the PS3..

because "Then why isn't it on the PS3 yet?"

Ofcourse MGS4 can be done on the 360 - i have been saying this for so long but Sony fanboys/girls will not allow their most treasured game of this gen even be considered within their minds and bury the very thought of it under many many layers of denial.

[ultimolu]

Never implied it couldn't be done on the 360 either. However, one has to question how much space would be required to port the game over to the 360.

That's not a stupid question and you gave me a stupid answer.

[AliC]

I thouroughly enjoyed the game from start to finish, while it was at times a little long winded a game that drags you into the story is a good game.

[jack who]

6) flopping and clank

i lol,d

[silverchode]

booooooooooooooo

[mjaruzel777]

Just Compare MGS4's production values alone to almost any other game...you cannot it has no peer.

[swiftshot93]

Best part in mgs4 is when you play mgs!

[Alcohog]

One of my favorite games of all time, and I've been around since '81. The game is still in my PS3 where it has sat since June 12th.

[Dark General]

He has some valid things i agree with (Boss fights and unconventional stealth mechanics that didn't always mesh correctly). But really the STORY? He obviously never liked MGS3. MGS3 is probably the best game out the whole series in my opinion and it's story is deep as well. He didn't get that THE BOSS effected everyone! The Patriots were born because of how Big Boss and Major Tom felt betrayed after they found out the truth. Then they further split because of difference in ideals. Major Tom grew untrustworthy and wanted everything under his control and thought he had the answers for everything. Big Boss tried to counteract this and was "killed" but was forced alive because of Major Tom still viewing him as his best friend.

And Ocelot was just plain badassed. Big Boss shaped what type of soldier he was like The Boss shaped Big Boss in a way. How do you think he was so badassed with those revolvers? Seems like the writer of the article didn't grasp the characters and the story as much as he thought he did. Everything makes more or less perfect sense to me as far as the Patriots and things like that. But i actually feel that act's 4 and 5 was the best and they probably had the least confrontation. I felt those returned to old school stealth. You didn't have many weapons you could use to get passed them and you actually had to sneak.

The gameplay was a bit of a letdown for me but the story was amazing. I got 20 hours out of gameplay my first run through. Then i beat the game in 5 hours to get foxhound. I don't think it's "only 6 hours of gameplay" it's only if you rush through the game and be nearly perfect will it last that long.

[dj_funky]

this article a joke? it's not april fools day yet.
mgs4 had everything.. drama.. action.. great storyline and characters.. great ending..

[robotnik]

Bots, stop submiting spam, you are killing N4G with your childish fanboyism.

[DiabloRising]

LOL at Xbox fanboys jumping all over this.

I'm going to go write up a blog about why Halo 3 sucked, I'll be back, because I'm sure that's news too! You know, one person's opinion?

/sarcasm.

[omodis420]

That would be a good idea. At least that Blog would have a shred of truth.

[Grimlock]

Let me List on how "NEX-GEN" this game was...

1) CANNOT SHOOT THROUGH CAR WINDOWS...(almost any shooter u can shoot through windows)
2) PURCHASE WEAPONS ANYTIME (yeah right, made it so easy)
3) TOOK ME ABOUT 45 MINS TO AN HOUR TO GET ONLINE..(bs right there)

great movie tho!! hahahahaha

[ReTarDedFisHy]

1) You've never played MGS4
2) I agree with you there, IMO it's bs and it removes the whole point of gathering and procuring items
3) You must be pretty dumb to take you that long

Fact: all the bots are still hanging on that article how that guy beat MGS4 in under 5 hours to get the Big Boss emblem. Lots have, and so did I, in under 4 hours, now I'm aiming for <3. It's called a speed-run. Me and my friend beat Gears of War co-op in <4 hours, Halo 2 Legendary in just over 3 hours, ETC. They also believe every single flamebait article that is published on N4G, and when it is debunked, they deny it and claim it's BS.

[spike]

The game needed longer cut scenes. Because the acual game sucked.

[ultimolu]

Never played it.

[SeraphimBlade]

gameplay: i felt really shaky going into it, but i was enjoying it by the end of chapter 1. it's complex, but it allows for several different play styles, and in the end, you're rewarded if you played stealthily, like you would in another Metal Gear.
story: Kojima had two choices. utterly confuse us with needless, incomprehensible plot twists over the course of 15 hours. or cram it all in the end for the people who actually care anymore, while delivering a well-told, followable story for the majority of the game. I'm quite glad he went with the second one. If this guy honestly expected it to end up making any sense, he wasn't paying attention in Sons of Liberty. And frankly, I just like it because it gave an excellent sense of closure which no other game seems to have delivered. no cliffhangers. conflicts, both external and internal, get resolved. and Otacon gets laid. I was more concerned about the character's fates than anything else, the patriots weren't really a great concern to me when i learned Snake was pretty much gonna have to die.
Chapter 4: that part was my favorite level in any video game. ever. sure, stealth didn't really play into it much. but you got another epic sniper fight, a rail gun, and you fight a metal gear WITH ANOTHER METAL GEAR. Nothing could make that chapter un-epic.

[djroberts]

I personally like MGS4 better than Gears although I liked Uncharted better than both. I guess I'm just strange that way...

Now I like LBP better than all three.

[swiftshot93]

yea Uncharted feels really fresh but in the sequel they need to make the game more epic-they should through in some some bosses and different enemies. Not just pirates and zombies!

[omodis420]

Uncharted should have won game of the year for 2007

[Dark General]

You're not alone. I like Uncharted better than MGS4 and i'm a huge MGS fan. Uncharted was a great fresh breath of air.

[gano]

MGS4 is better then gears.

[gano]

Only people who hate to read and the attention span of a peanut
would say MGS4 was not excellent.

[Madgunner]

this guy is nuts.. disapointing, you serious, everyone is entilted to their opinion but at least make sense in your backingto me MGS4 is my favorite out of all of them... not by alot but by a notch... there were so many scenes that just sent my spirits soaring and sent my emotions flying all over the place... it was the end tostory that has lasted over a decaded i cannot thank Kojima-san enough for what he has done and giving me the greatest game series of ALL TIME

[gano]

Every who has a ps3 i feel should own this.
Instant classic. Plus online on the same disk.
Just update trophies and it'll be blasphemy not for it
to be goty.

[omodis420]

I'd say rental

[ReBurn]

I wouldn't call it a disappointment. It wasn't my favorite type of game, but it was very well done. High production values and solid gameplay. I thought that it relied too much on the cinema aspects to move the story along, but that's just Kojima's style.

[J BO]

i am 100 percent agree with this article.
I hate chapters idea.
I think the bosses in previous MGS are much better.
I think the story of previous MGS are much better.

for me nothing better than MGS 3.

[tk]

The anti PS3 media seems to be in full swing now...

MGS4 was great. No disappointment. Bring on MGS5

[wolfsrain]

More like, if mgs4 was disappointing then why it sold millions of copies world wide??? And still going strong, not to mention outselling mgs4 ps3 bundles that are now if you can find one selling for thousands...

[incogneato]

the game is a masterpiece

[Jamaicangmr]

This games has been out how many months? Some of you need to get over it seek therapy do whatever you gotta but move on please. There's nothing anyone can do about it now. It's sold millions talking sh!t now wont WILL NOT change that.

Xbox360 loyalist where dying to get it every game conference that would come up some retard would start up a MGS4 on Xbox360 rumour in hopes that it would actually happen. I guess now it's clear that it's not.

You'll need to quit if you wanna talk about a disapointment take a pick from the library of your favourate console because you're not changing any minds on this end.

Grow the fack up some of you and LEARN HOW to form your own opinions.

[kewlkat007]

I'm not a MGS fanatic and have not kept up with the story all that much though I went through the retrospective so I'll leave that up to them gamers.

I enjoyed the game for what it was not what it wasn't. Of course Loyal MGS fans will see and understand the shortcomings based on their long-term experience.

But I do agree there needed to be more Action.

[REDZEV]

oh!!! I know. Because it was a Movie thats why. See you dont have to be a Droid to now that one. LOL

[Stubacca]

It was breath-taking mate!

You shoulda played it.

[tatsujin]

Jealous of the PS3. ;] Poor Xbots.

[RunamukK]

having never played a metal gear solid game b4 all I can say is wow. This was THE best game I have ever played!!!! Ever!!

[FF7numba1]

people say this game is like a move. I felt the other one were too and thats what I loved about them. Its like playing in your favorite movie. Best experience any game can offer.

[gnothe1]

people here know I prefer my 360 but... MGS4 was my FIRST MGS game an I must say that I think it was one of the BEST games I EVER played. graphics were good, story was good EVERYTHING!! but for some reason I couldn't pull myself to do another play through. I tried, but I got bored quickly. the extra added stuff like the cry or rage darts was funny but not enough to make me replay the game again. but it took me about 23 hours watching all the cut scenes an codecs scenes.Great game non the less!!

[gano]

Dec 9th Dark knights turn blu.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

It did bombed because of the dead online. And it probably bombed because of the recycling of boss characters like the japanese game developers always do.

[cyclindk]

As good as it was, I was slightly disappointed; if it was supposed to be the last MGS game (with Snake as the protag) then I expected there to be loads of extras, but instead there's only a slight trickling of new unlockables every now and again from Konami.

I expected to play as Raiden, Vamp, B and B squad members, et cetera, but all I got was the solar gun and and great looking character and weapons models and animations: fire was ugly, little destructibility, et cetera.

Now, for ANY OTHER game that would have been more than enough, but this was heralded as "The Last One," and it didn't deliver the ultimate experience I wanted. It more than delivered in many places, no doubt, but it didn't fulfill my every need (9.0 but not a ten)...that's all.

[LeGenDx]

i absolutely loved this game, i put 24 hours including with cutscene. i also loved the online.

[Enigma_2099]

the "MGS4 on 360" rumors have been debunked yet again, and once again, it's no longer all that great....

[KeiulZen]

Its like getting turned down by the prettiest girl at school, after the rejection, you start to say she isn't all that hot. :\

[user3915800]

Bottom line, because it was not closely related to the actual series and in my opinion the movie, or should I say like most of you call it the game sucks, and does not deserve more than 6.5 out of 10 case close.
A 4 hour game for 60 dollars does not deserve to be called a game.

[Itrguy001]

soooo...... ur saying u unlocked everything on ur first time?, got all the emblems, guns, costumes, secrets, scenes, camo's, everything? yeah sure i highly doubt that. it also depends on how long a person plays i took 26 hrs on my first time playing and i didnt even unlock everything so i went and played it again and this time it took me 16hrs but i still didnt unlock everything so i played it again and this time i actually finished it with 6hrs and i unlocked everything not all people rush through and skip cut scenes.

[Enigma_2099]

I can imagine how many times you got spotted just running through each battlefield, bullets flying round your head.

MGS4 wasn't a disappointment, your post was...

[yanikins111]

.........

"retards"

[thor]

This guy misses the point with the story. The patriots were the AI all along. This was heavily hinted at in MGS2. It's also a jokey reference to the fact that you're doing whatever the "AI", or PS3, is telling you to do at any time.

The disappointments I had with the story were that the ideas in MGS2 (such as the system to stop fortune getting shot, liquid's arm) were REPLACED by the SOP system and nanomachines in ocelot. That's inconsistent - but then MGS2 was never planned to have a sequel.

[PotNoodle]

I'm a hardcore MGS fanboy and i didn't think there was anything wrong with MGS4, it may of been a little different from the rest but they wanted to make it more accessible for other people as it previously wasn't.

I'm glad they did, more people got sucked into this amazingly epic franchise.

It is my best game of this generation, it is one of the best games i have ever played.

[shawnsl65]

xboxfanboys prefer ping pong vs any good game with a story in it. Fanboys do not speak for the rest of the xbox360 community, just remember that folks. They being retarded don't rub off on the others.

[belal]

with over 4 mill sold copies it flopped ;)

with over 50 10/10s it flopped ;)

ohhh plzzzz bots tell me why it flopped ?

[peowpeow]

Now this wasn't disappointing at all
I had the utmost fun just watching my brother play the game (he has ps3 i don't :(, AND he lives on the other side of the country lolol)
MGS story is the best. If you don't know the story the cutscenes probably are a waste of time to you exactly why you bash the game.

[Shane Kim]

I know why it was dissapointing...because this guy and all other bots had a mental breakdown trying to understand the story.

[shawnsl65]

you hit the bullseye on that one.

[WolfRathmA]

WTF is this??? LoL!!! This is the worst news i have even read!!!

Go and play pac-man for god sake!!!

This is the best game for all time!

[elorm9]

The whole cutscene thing has been with the franchise for a long time. Plus, Kojima himself said that the game was made for the FANS not the NEWCOMERS. I've played only MGS2 and MGS3 and the cutscenes were pretty long so the fact that people say that MGS4 was more of a movie doesn't surprise me.

[Lets-Game]

lol so many fanboys here, hating on what considered best game of all time by countless reviewers. I know it must suck knowing you have to step over yourself to go and buy ps3 and enjoy amazing games it has and those coming out. But oh well the biggest loss is for fanboys, they are only hurting them selves. making excuses and hating on other games just so they dont have to admit they are missing out on something big in this generation and games that already gonnna be remembered in 10 year, but later on thinking bah i should have enjoed it back then instead of being fanboy.

[zodiac909]

do people care why the game was disappointing? why would they want to read this SHlT when majority of the people who played it, loved it?

[phosphor112]

I thought it was amazing...hands down...
I think people are just hatin' on it.

[GameForFame]

Man it's like some High schooler wrote this...misusing words, parts of sentences making no sense...was the editor out? hah but seriously...

I have come to realize that with this final installment in the MGS games people will either throughly enjoy this or maybe not so much. Maybe a few old school fans might not like it, but once again with the story you get thrown some curve balls. I dunno if I'd call the whole Ocelot deal lame/gay as he did, but it was a little less exciting than I thought. But the whole Zero, Sigint, and Paramedic thing was a twist that I thought was appropriate. Sigint being the DARPA Chief was something I didn't expect, but it makes sense that he would go on to do something like that...I guess in a character/story perspective. One thing I guess I might side with is the nanomachines and Vamp...but at the same time I think that was more realistic in the sense that Vamp didn't really have some special ability or anything cause that would have been lame...but then again some characters have this. Look at Volgin, Vamp, Mantis, the Sorrow etc etc - some characters do have slightly exaggerated "powers/abilities" if you will so I guess I could have accepted that in this case. But seeing as they were making these nanomachines capable of any and everything it seemed to fit more...like with Johnny and his shots...it all makes sense and so I guess I'm a little surprised that this guy seemed to be baffled by all of this. And with the MGS games being so "out there" in the sense that weird things like this have always been prevalent, throughout all the games, it seems kinda weird to be complaining about them now.

But either way, I enjoyed the sh*t out of this game...I really did. I've played through it nearly 5 times not to get my "monetary value" out of it or anything but because I enjoy all the MGS games so much I tend to replay them...I couldn't tell you how many times I played MGS1 over the years...classic. All of these games are classics.

It just seems as if the guy writing this was a big of a fan as he claims he wouldn't be making an argument for some of these things as they're classic MGS twists. And him complaining about going back to Shadow Moses, it seems as if nearly every single MGS fan loved this..sure it's all a matter of opinion, but dayum, dude makes it seems as if it was really that bad of a decision.

Eh, MGS4 was bananas...classic MGS at heart, regardless of certain things not being present.

" But if you are a true MGS fan and say that you loved the story and everything about MGS4, I would have to say you are a fake even if it’s your opinion." - total BS. Try telling this to all the MGS4 fans that loved this game for everything it offered. It's like this guy doesn't realize it's an opinion piece, like he thinks he is speaking for the majority of gamers. HILARIOUS.

[MiztaToungueTwista]

wow, pathetic
the xbots are just jelous that PS3 has much better AAA games then 3rd60. IGN rated MGS4 10/10, and they hardly do that.

[AnttiApina]

Some of the scenes were pretty boring like Eastern Europe or Act 5 (there were only few rooms). Still it's a great game.

[Ziggazee]

Fok how long the game play is, fok how many copies it sold and if it was a flop or not! I dnt giv a fok wot u think about the game cuz i loved the game regardless so fok u!!! Yes mgs4 is my fav game of all time! I love the online multiplayer, i loved the story, i love the gameplay, i loved the graphics... So capital G fok U!!

[Itrguy001]

so um.... they dont see the fact that Kojima answered all the questions from the other MGSs'. i found this well worth it me and my brother played it and hes on his 5th run even though he has gotten all the weapons and emblems without any of the codes to unlock the guns. Kojima gave a very nice ending. the Microwave part on the ship was fckin great even though i failed that part like 5 times cause my thumb started to hurt. and then the straight hand to hand combat with ocelot was fun and bashing his head into the ship. and we got to see what happened at the end to the original snake. we found out what happened to everyone from MGS3.

[XBox RRoDed again]

because I didn't get it!!! =(

[jdawg222]

my 1st play i did it in 18 hours, watching the cut scenes and codec things. i wasn't trying to complete it in any certain amount of time. i just played it. thats how long it took me. and in my opinion it was one of the best video games i have ever played. peace

[thetan5000]

Try again 360 fan boys. You FAIL LARGE.

[gersh]

This is one good way to get attention.

[oldsnayke]

Anybody who is a fan of Metal Gear Solid would agree that this is one of the best in the series. The ONLY disappointing segment of this game was the implementation of the return of Big Boss, which just showed that Kojima acknowledged fanboy requests and acted upon them.

It was a brilliant end for Snake - he has nothing left to fight for... his father's dead, his mother's dead... the world's biggest threat, Liquid, has been defeated... Solidus is no more.. what else could he fight for? Not to mention that the Patriots no longer exist. Anybody who disagrees with this is clearly NO real fan of the MGS series, in which case don't even bother commenting on this article.

[STORMxEAGLE]

"Danja:Short single player experience ? well considering this game is about 20 hrs without including cut-scenes i' d say that pretty good comparing to the length of most games these days..

I can list a bunch of big exclusive games that barely managed to clock 7 hrs into the single player campaign im looking at you (Halo 3 and Gears)"

"Danja: Well it took me 20 hrs on Big Boss Extreme , while trying to unlock Big Boss Emblem...

not everyone will get the same play through time , so to say my time sounds odd is just foolish."

I'd point it out, but I think after others read that they'd know your an f'n idiot and a hypocrit. And all you others idiots who are comparing games like Gears and Halo to a game of a completely different genre i'd suggest turning off your computer, find a dark corner, and sit there till your common sense returns to you. ;)

As for the MGS games; the only one i've played was Twin Snakes on the Gamecube, thought it was cool, but I have a friend who's a big fan of the series (he has played them all and jsut beat MGS4) who said that 4 had way to many cutscences for its own good, and wasn't much of a challenge after you get a little familiar with it. I know a bunch of PS3 fanboys will think i'm making that up, but i'm not typing this to convince them, i'm typing this to state a fact.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

This just keeps getting better.

First it's this is gonna come to the 360 so haha Sony fanboys!

Now it's this game sucks so we hate it and it's short and blah blah blah.

Hey can't anyone make up their minds? Fanboys are hypocritical much.

Hey Guys, just because you ran through the entire game, instead of stopping to kill people, doesn't mean anything. Any game can be completed in under a certain amount of time.

The reason why they used such a big disk is because they put in soo much uncompressed audio.

God...

[xg-ei8ht]

Wow so many comments for a blog.

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

[Zulwarn]

nuff said

[jammy_70]

still a great game but acts 4 and 5 were disapointing, i mean no guards at all in act 4 was just stupid, then act 5..... just 2 rooms? i mean started great, finish wasn't as good but over all a game well worth playing
it could of been the best game ever created, just the last 2 acts let it down,... well i think
but then i can see this game being released again with most problems improved and with extra stuff, as this has happened to previos mgs games

[shovelbum]

The game was really good but definitely not my favorite in the series. It just didn't grab my attention like the first two and the freaking cutscenes were too many too often for my taste.

[Blitzed]

I find it interesting that all kinds of anti-PS3 articles and blog posts pop up in the months leading up to Christmas. It seems every type of FUD from speculation of poor future sales, to random blogs of technical issues with the system and games, to articles like these bashing exclusives (even ones that have been out for several months) start popping up from everywhere in recent weeks. i expect even more as Christmas approaches. Just something I have noticed...

[Cyb3r]

I have been gaming for over 20years and MGS4 is one of the best games I ever played. Anyone who thinks it was bad are clearly insane

[SeraphimBlade]

Yes, the game is short, if you go running and gunning. But if you know how to play Metal Gear, you know the little joys and wonders to be found in the nooks and crannies. a real fan of the series probably took their sweet old time, while the "dur! bullets make them die!" gamers found a shorter experience.
To sum it up MGS is best played by those who see blips on their radar and think "oh, i should avoid those," not the ones who think "oh, i should kill those"