Ubisoft - I Want My Assassin's Creed Back

Ubisoft is one of the world's biggest games publishers and Assassin's Creed is its biggest franchise. Origins is good and with Odyssey they will go full-blown RPG. But they will also move totally away from what an Assassin's Creed game is - and I don't want that.

[chrisx]

don't know about u but I'm loving the RPG elements big time.

[GottaBjimmyb]

Same, new version is better IMO.

[neutralgamer1992]

New vision is better because old vision was getting stale but now I fear ubi will run this into the ground too so they must evolve and take risks

Their lack of risk taking was the main reason old AC games lost what made them special

[-Foxtrot]

Exactly it's not Assassins Creed anymore

The Assassins, the order, the hidden blade, the cloaked hood and so on...it's basically a game where you move around to different time periods, that's it.

Least start a new IP

[bigmalky]

People said that about God of War.

[Inzo]

And many fans were quite rightly concerned as Barlog himself pointed out but at its core GOW was still GOW with RPG elements. This game seems to have gone full out RPG with some of the core features that made AC being dropped completely.

[bigmalky]

There are still assassination missions, gadget use, map marker quests, the ship lets you base build by the sound, there are still side missions, it's open world, there will still be rival factions...

The premise is the same, it's just been built on. To be honest, I like this style, but that's personal preference. No idea how Odyssey is going to be a totally different game, other than cutting all the monotonous bullshit out and making things more meaningful.

It's like gamers' brains have been on autopilot all these years, just doing collect quests and repetitive side missions without reward... Origins changed that. Is that seriously a bad thing?

[starchild]

You're really fond of saying certain games no longer belong to the franchise of which they are a part. However, you're extremely arbitrary about it. To me God of War represents a significant change from the previous games in nearly every major aspect, but you have nothing negative to say about it. You defintely love to call out multiplats like Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed, though, even though their changes are no more drastic or fundamental.

To be clear I love God of War and I think the changes were positive. It's simply that I don't think there's anything wrong about the evolution seen in those other franchises either.

[-Foxtrot]

Maybe I say it because a lot of them are, they'd rather keep the franchises name then make a new IP because they are scared to take that risk. God of War is something that's went on for 7 or so games which started to feel samey, they clsoed the Greek mythology chapter and started a new chapter in the Norse world, the changes feel like a more mature path like the one Kratos has taken as a character. It feels natural and more like an evolution of the series especially to where the character is now compared to Greece.

Tomb Raider could have easily kept the like the older games and Assassins Creed could have went on a long break while they focus on newer games or revive old ones like the Prince of Persia.

Assassins Creed is not evolving, it's just adding whatever shit together to try and feel more different so people don't go on about with how quick they are released they feel the same.

[goldwyncq]

According to speculation, this game might be the Templar's origin story.

And pretty sure we'll get the hidden blade, similar to what another PS4 game did, bringing back an iconic weapon halfway through the game.

[CP_Company]

Layla is assassin's child. She can't told a story about templar, it is not in her DNR.

[Liqu1d]

@CP_Company The Animus she uses allows her to explore the memories of Ancestors unrelated to her. She has no ancestral ties to any Assassin. She used DNA samples from Bayek and Aya to explore their memories.

Layla found one of Herodotus' books, who referred to a Spartan mercenary (Oddessy main character) who came into contact with Isu artifacts, even wielding one which is Leonidas' spear.

It's possible we'll see an order similar to the Templars or The Order of the Ancients be founded in AC Oddessy.

[lociefer]

At this point it's not even assasin creed, they are trying different games under the same IP because they are too lazy to develope new mechanics and/or engine , if they released this game under let's say "sparta" ip , people will go "oooh but it controls /feels the same as AC" so they just don't bother

[EDKICK]

@-Foxtrot
Origins was literally about the start of the Assassin's order how could it be anymore about the Order. Origins had the best future story sections since III and actually made a real reference back to Desmond for the first time since III (If I'm not mistaken) (Unity and Syndicate barely focused on the future story). Origins had interesting combat, weapons, loot, and quests for the first time in the series. What exactly is the problem?

[Sirk7x]

Games that cost that much to make, and have an IP that powerful already don't just change the name of it to something else when they're trying to make mainstream money. You can argue that they should, but they won't lol.

[Helios86]

I'd much prefer that, every game takes place in a different time period with a self contained story.
The general story in Assassins Creed is pretty damn bad, at this point I assume they are just keeping the name for the brand recognition.

[No Way]

I agree. These games have gone so far off tilt from the 1st game. The first, truly, is still my favorite AC game... it had great stealth. It was smarter to run, than fight. Because you weren't a super hero. Yo ass would die, in the 1st game, if you aint run. You couldnt just run in and kill everyone. It was smart to look for the opportune moment.

I miss it.

[KentBlake]

I'm a huge AC fan since the beginning. I played every single game in the franchise, including the spin-offs, and my favorite game so far is....Origins.

So, Ubisoft, keep doing what you're doing. It's fine by me.

[starchild]

Yep, I like the direction they are taking the series. My only quibbles would be that I really want to see the series explore Asian settings like Ancient China and Feudal Japan. And it also might be nice if they gave us more time in between releases since each game is so large and contains so much content.

[Legatus]

Agree with you, but for the feudal Japan setting we are covered with the upcoming Ghost Tsushima.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Tbh, I'm fine with all of the RPG stuff if they could just emphasize climbing and platforming a bit more.

[Chaosdreams]

First time i've been interested in an Assassins Creed game, in well, ever. (I love the era).

[Gh05t]

The point is they could have called the game Odyssey, taken out any reference to Assassin's Creed and you would probably still like it.

On the other hand this is so far from what the franchise started off as it's an assassins game in name only.

[boing1]

AC is an established IP. The game still has all the traits of AC game. Calling the game differently wouldn't be a wise business decision. Especially when Origins was critically well acclaimed and received.

[Gh05t]

Totally clearly missed my point and "The game still has all the traits of AC game" is a laugh at its finest. What is a trait of just the assassins alone in the game... perhaps a missing finger and an assassins hidden blade?

Lets look at the skill tree under "Assassination" shall we. It reads "Using the spear of Leonidas..."

Again I am not saying this wont be a good game... This is just not an Assassins Creed game except for the title and now forced in story.

Hell I want to play this game but I also want to play some more true to form Assassins Creed games where you have to figure out what path to take to climb a building, where stealth is a huge mechanic not just "available" where you make multiple hidden blade kills and going way back where you had puzzles to solve in cathedrals.

[No Way]

Boing1 - Incorrect. The first game started as a stealth assassination game. The games now are superheros with swords. You couldn't fight in the first game, like you can now. Killing a WHOLE army. Try that in the first game... good luck. Secondly, they've gone away from the "blending in the crowd" aspect. Third, you no longer blend in with any 'normal' people, as in your outfit.

These aren't what AC was meant to be; or at the least what it started out as.

Im fine, however, with the games - its just not AC. Also, its supposed to be roughly based on history. Why is our assassin glowing in fire? Jumping and living from 100 feet? Etc etc

[LegendarySaiyan]

Not disliking their approach to RPG, but with Origins, AC has moved away from its traditional AC games. Rather than calling each game AC, they should have made a new IP with Origin/Odyssey like RPG and kept the AC games faithful to the original AC style.

Still waiting for a new Prince of Persia game :/

[campofmusic]

i have to agrere with you on this.

[bigmalky]

Origins was the best game since Black Flag and before than ACII.

The old system was flawed and full of filler that was tedious by the time Syndicate rolled out.

I welcome this change. If you want to play the old style, go and replay the old games.

At least AC seems worth buying around release again, instead of the sale or used material it had become.

[snkiworld]

I dont bother about the name i want RPG game with bow and arrow thats all.Iam buying day one

[bluefox755]

For me it's the opposite, I have so much series fatigue that this may be just what I need to get me back into it.

[PUBG]

I'm not sure how anyone can get excited about these games. This game has saturated the market with so many releases, that there is nothing special about this series anymore, and there hasn't been for quite some time. For newcomers, there are so many Assassins Creed games out there, that I'm not sure how anyone would know where to begin. There are so many games, and they are all so big, that it would be next to impossible to get into the series, unless all you play is Assassins Creed day in and day out.

[riibhu]

They destroyed what assassins creed was all about. They side tracked the modern story, they are leaning towards action and less and less stealth. Making hidden Blade locked behind level is the worst. And now with Odyssey they entirely destroyed any trace of Assassins or the creed.
What my problem with ubisoft is that instead of destroying things that makes an AC game go for a new ip. But hey they want to milk the brand as much as they want right?
With origins they took one step forward and now with Odyssey they are taking two steps back.

[EDKICK]

1. Origins had the best/most involved modern story since III. Or do you want to carry around an iPad some more?
2. Are you seriously saying they're making it less of a stealth game in a series that had like 5+ entries before it got a bloody crouch button? (If you want real stealth go play Dishonored)
3. How can you say the two entries with the most new and refreshing elements in the series are taking steps back? It's taking steps forward, maybe not in a direction you like, but clearly steps forward not back.

[riibhu]

1. Remember the whole Juno plot from ac 4. They are continuing it in a comics. So yeah they did side track it as I've said.
2. Ok maybe not the stealth as in gameplay but the tools required to do stealth are clearly inferior to previous entries. As for hidden Blade they entirely removed it from Odyssey.
3. Yes they took steps forward with origins but now look at origins 1.5 aka Odyssey. So yes they are doing exactly the thing for which they had backlash and then made origins to counter that backlash. But with Odyssey they are back to their old formula of milking.
And yes it is entirely how I see it. I don't talk on behalf of others.

[plmkoh]

I'm just laughing at the fact they shoehorned an era of history into Assassins Creed around 1500 years before the invention of 'Assassins'.

[CrimsonWing69]

Dude, what are you nuts!? Thank god for this breath of fresh air.

[goldwyncq]

Jeez, Assassin's Creed fans are becoming like Star Wars fans.

[Trueflames]

The new assasins series is better than older ones i like the rpg elements better

[Tzuno]

i like the leveling system and weapon craft, nice change of pace

[Elda]

I love this new direction of AC minus the ship battles something I don't like,but I loved Origins & the new one reminds me of Origins due to the gameplay & setting just that it's in Greece now.I will agree that the AC now is a departure from the original.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Does this even have any connection to the assassins guild and the whole uncovering of the truth? Is that still a thing in Assassin's Creed? How does this tie-in to Assassin's Creed as a whole?

[EDKICK]

So let me get this straight for years people bash AC for being samey, for being the same game, with the same structure, the same repetitive tasks with just slight tweaks every year. Now they are actually making long needed changes, needed shake-ups, ones that EVERYONE was saying they needed to make, they finally do that (make the best game in the entire series) and now suddenly it's "ohh they changed it too much it's not the old AC anymore" no your right it's better. You guys are why sequels are so static. I for one am glad half the quests in Origins weren't the same garbage tailing missions we got for hafl a decade.

[Millard]

Personally I loved the old assassins creed games and enjoyed a new entry every year. It was the one game i was guaranteed to pick up each year. Origins felt nothing like those games. I would much rather they go back to the old setup but due to the constant crying on the internet by people who don't even like the series they changed it. Many people point to unity as the reason for change. Unity was overly ambitious and released in a poor condition but once fixed is actually the very best of the series. Unfortunately the series as it was is now dead and we have games that are more like far cry than assassins creed.

[darx]

You don't like it, go pound sand.

[FernDiggidy]

umm...NO

[Psychotica]

I loved the first two AC games but the ones between AC 2 and Origins were not good in my opinion. AC:Origins renewed my interest in the series.

[DrumBeat]

So much complaining. I don't like the new format. Wah. I wanna play as Joel. Wah. I don't like first person, I want third. Wahhhhh! Little babies everywhere.

[EDKICK]

The Internet: (Year after year) this is a joke Assassin's Creed is the same every year. Who even plays these anymore. There all the same. Change it up, change it up, quit using the same formula over and over, fix the recurring problems of the series.

Ubisoft: (finally) alright guys we're gonna finally address your complaints, we're shake the series up, we're gonna fix combat, fix side quests, quit filling the map with hundreds of useless symbols, it's gonna be the biggest and best looking game we've ever made.

The internet: What? It's not even AC, I miss the old AC, why would you change the formula.

[nibblo]

The biggest problem for me is the yearly release schedule. I liked it when Origins took 2 years to come out and I hoped they would continue with it so we would see more of an evolution for each game instead of a re-skinning with a different story which they seem to be going back to. Will still buy the game though lol!

[djsilke45]

this is a joke right.....they made the same game for almost a decade and people complained...now you are saying you want the same thing again?

[DennyBud]

I haven't played AC since Unity, just wasn't where I thought the franchise was going. Maybe I need to give it another try after a few years? Longtime fan just on a break personally.