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Gran Turismo Sport Is A Strange Game Tuned For A Very Particular Type Of Racing Fan

Gamespot: Our Gran Turismo Sport review will be live in the coming days, but early impressions have us questioning the game's priorities.

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It's tuned for people who want the most realistic driving physics available on a console and who want as close to a real racing experience by discouraging things like unrealistic crashing by grouping players together by skill as well as safe driving.

What it's not is an arcade game.

mandingo2398d ago

I’d say pcars is more realistic honestly

Chuuzuu2398d ago

I agree. From someone who has played and loved all of the Forza and Gran Turismo games, Project Cars has become the racer that I enjoy the most these days.

frostypants2398d ago

Jury is still out on which has the most realistic physics I think, but I'd be shocked if GT Sport doesn't take it.

C-H-E-F2398d ago

question for the two of you
@mandingo and @chuuzuu

have yall actually played GT? because on PC1 and PC2 i am constantly fighting my wheel to keep my car on track... every car is stiff, it they have arcade elements, throughout... GT, each car feels different, the wheel feels different per car, tweaking your suspension slightly changes the car handling dramatically. GT is light years above PC2 stop trying to troll about something you have yet to play.

yeahokwhatever2398d ago

PC is amateurish garbage. Being shitty doesn't make something more realistic.

nix2398d ago

At least in GT Sport AI is not trying to kill you. 😂

nX2398d ago

Project CARS while kind of realistic, as an overall package is mediocre at best and GT is not for a "Very Particular Type Of Racing Fan" but the go to game if you actually love cars instead of spectacle. I'm still using techniques in GT:S that I learned back in GT3 and GT4 because it's so consistent in it's approach to simulate driving.

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WePlayDirty2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

I tried playing online yesterday. Right at the beginning of the race, I braked and went into a turn like a good racer. I get knocked into another car.. guess what happens? I lose SR. I don’t think that’s fair at all, but that’s just me. On top of that, there needs to be more servers open for races. Say I just race a Gr. 3 style race.. I need to wait 30+ minutes before the next race... That’s way too long imo

nX2398d ago

For games like GT it's actually best to find people serious about racing and enjoy the fair competition in private lobbies.

XStation4pio_Pro2398d ago

Pcars2 is more realistic. I have all 3 (F7, GTS and PCars2) and PCars2 is the most realistic both in simulation and race structure.

frostypants2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

I personally *only* play racing games online these days. I still love single player games, but I have zero interest in racing against bots. This is right up my alley, even if risks turning away some GT car-collecting diehards. Implementing the system for rewarding clean driving is awesome and not something console racers have had before.

And sure we had Driveclub but the driving model in that never appealed to me.

yeahokwhatever2398d ago

You even have to watch training videos before they will let you participate in GT Sport online. Its wonderful!

frostypants2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

I know right? Won't someone think of the griefers?! LOL

This is could've just been called GT Academy: The Game. I love how seriously it takes fair competition.

Cyro2398d ago

Yeah the online system GT has is pretty nice. Unless it's an organized race, public lobbies in racing games are always a mix of trolls, bad drivers, and good drivers. Online is my favourite part of sim racing so this game is definitely for me.

InTheZoneAC2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

This game is promoting the most competitive way to race, by racing against similarly skilled racers and then you move up as you get better, and then obviously races will become cleaner as you climb.

I spent a couple hours completing the beginner tests on gold and then making sure to beat my friends times. It feels perfect with a t300 wheel, using my portable playseat challenge

Ashlen2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

They discussed that the game actually tracks how much you have contact with other cars. You can be a not fast racer but if you race clean it will put you in races with other people at your speed who also race clean.

bluefox7552398d ago

The game is clearly going a different direction than other games, this has been known for a long time. It doesn't make sense to criticize the game for not being something different than it's trying to be. Judge it on it's own merits.

TankCrossing2398d ago

"What it isn't" can be important. Every game game is brilliant if the criteria you judge it by is "being what it is". They all do that perfectly.

Nodoze2398d ago (Edited 2398d ago )

Long time Turismo fan here dating all the way back to the PS2 era. I bought a PS2 for GT3 A-Spec. Put many many many hours into GT throughout the various iterations and sorry to say..I am done with it. It is clear that Polyphony is adrift and leaderless in the brave new world. Kaz is too busy racing instead of leading his team to create truly compelling software. It is as if he has truly stopped caring. 4 Years into this generation and this is what we get? A stripped down, online only, sliver of what GT once used to be. I won't get into the issues I have with this, but sorry to say that I shut this game and the PS4 off last night in utter frustration. Yes I think it is that bad. A 7 at the absolute highest, and even that is pushing it.

When are we going to stop judging Polyphony by their past success, and truly focus on what they have been delivering of late? Once you stop looking back, you really start to see just how little they have developed. Core experience is one thing, but they have made next to no progress at all on damage modeling, audio (minor improvements), customization, and for those of us that just don't plan to buy a racing wheel...controls. Something is truly off with controller controls in this game. As a long time veteran, it is just not good.

This will be my last GT, and I am even considering selling it. Yes that is how much I dislike it.

InTheZoneAC2398d ago

Take a knee or sell it, your choice

C-H-E-F2398d ago

That's nice, my wife is playing GT for the first time ever... seeing that she is now a new fan you not being one anymore is null and void a perfect swap.

yeahokwhatever2398d ago

I literally got out of my chair and jumped for joy when I got first in my first online race. No other game has given me this sense of excitement or accomplishment for online. The race was intense AND the drivers executed sportsmanship on the track. I blame GTS's new direction for this. I'm also a HUGE GT fan. I couldn't be more happy about this new direction for the series.

Nodoze2398d ago

You are reinforcing my point. The game is shadow of former offerings, and is designed to entice casual players.

Skip it.

BLKxSEPTEMBER2398d ago

How dare you dislike a Sony exclusive /s

nX2398d ago

There's a not so fine difference between disliking something and stating completely false opinions as facts, just ask Trump.

Realms2398d ago

@Nodoze

How is it designed to entice new players? If anything it will alienate a huge demographic I tried the demo and I definitely saw the potential even as a non racing sim fan. Many people's gripes come from the lack of content and offline capabilities but they have already said it would be supported long after it is released.

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Gran Turismo Sport Has Been Delisted From PS Store

Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.

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ApocalypseShadow128d ago

The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.

purple101128d ago

But in this case everyone who has it still has it

And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline

ApocalypseShadow127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.

If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?

There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.

Bathyj127d ago

Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.

If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.

Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.

If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.

fan_of_gaming126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."

It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.

If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.

Cacabunga126d ago

People should stand against digitalization

purple101126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical

Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as

365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com

All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.

Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice

No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool

With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article

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DigitallyAfflicted127d ago

Maybe this will make people realise the future of digital-only games

purple101127d ago

This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies

DigitallyAfflicted127d ago

@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.

My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…

blackblades127d ago

I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.

ApocalypseShadow127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.

He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "

EvertonFC127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.

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EvertonFC127d ago

If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.

Barlos127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?

For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.

frostypants126d ago

I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.

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Father__Merrin127d ago

Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7

Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad

Agent75126d ago

You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?

shinoff2183126d ago

Physical games for yet another win.

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Gran Turismo Sport End of Online Services

On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.

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Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.

purple101226d ago

GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.

For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.

Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.

The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi

badz149226d ago

So...will they enable offline saves now or what?

VariantAEC221d ago

From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."

So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.

Agent75226d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.

OmegaSoldati225d ago

Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.

VariantAEC221d ago

Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.

We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.

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30 of the world's top GT drivers arrive in Monaco after a highly competitive 2022 Series. They must now navigate a regional qualifying group featuring drivers from their home regions for a place at the Grand Final.
12 drivers from each respective group including the top three from Asia-Oceania, Americas, and Europe/Middle East/Africa groups, and the top three from the Repechage will qualify for the Grand Final.

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Agent75226d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.