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Forza 7 vs Project Cars 2 vs Gran Turismo Sport

Forza Motorsport 7 vs Project Cars 2 vs GT Sport: Petrolheads are spoilt this year with three of the biggest names releasing new entries. Which is the best?

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Vasto2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

It will come down to Forza and Project Cars.

GT Sport does not look nearly as good as the others.

darthv722770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

As a racing fan, I will likely get all three.

yippiechicken2770d ago

I generally really enjoy most racing games. I'll likely pick up Forza but I'm sure I'll get GT so I can use my new PSVR!

nix2770d ago

The entire reason GT Sports exists because it's officially recognized by FIA. You race and you can actually win an FIA trophy. That's why it's mostly MP because you have to race against other people.

Now who's going to get GT Sports is completely a different thing. I'm skipping PC2 because I'm only interested in Formula cars and the career... PC1 was horrible with AI. They were all homicidal. I'm surprised I finished started from Formula C and went all the way to A in spite of the horrible AI. I'll wait for a year to get PC2 when the price comes down.

Having said that I don't know if I will get GT Sports... I'll probably be ranked 564327. lol.

I picked up F1 2016 only a couple of months back because I was getting 70% off. Won't even be looking at F1 2017.

Frankly I just have too much of backlog starting with TLG so racing games are going to take a backseat.

Dee_912770d ago

@darthv72
Same. I'm so happy forza came to PC! I was torn between getting an xbox one x and an gaming pc, but they made the choice for me. I was going to pass on Pcars because the first one was rubbish, but the positive reviews are looking promising. As for gtsport... I've been hooked since the beta and that was without all of the cars & tracks, scapes, customization, livery editor, and it didn't look and sound as it does in the current build. As a racing sim fan, and car fanatic, I am in heaven... my social life is about to non-existent.

rainslacker2770d ago

I would have said the same, but I'm really disappointed in the lack of a traditional career mode. What they state is their new career mode doesn't appeal to me, as it sounds like an extended version of the license tests of old GT games, which were my least favorite part of the game. Plus, I'm not that fussed about online play, so that aspect doesn't appeal to me.

And I'm one of the biggest GT fans on this site. Absolutely love the series as a whole. And I've been accused of being a Sony fan boy. but I can't get behind GT:S.

Such a disappointment, because I was really looking forward to it with PSVR, and maybe a new racing wheel set up.

Maybe they'll eventually include a proper career mode and I'll change my mind. Apparently all the AI is there for having an actual race. Seems rather simple to apply that to a progressive leveled career mode.

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Zeke682770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

For me as a PlayStation owner it stood between GT Sport and Project Cars 2. But I just came home from my friend who bought Project Cars 2 and after trying it hands on I decided to stick with my GT Sport pre-order.
PC2 was great but it wasn't giving me that same nice feeling that the GT Sport Beta did, and I know alot of things have improved after that Beta ended so I wait until 18th Oct when GT sport releases here.

That doesn't mean I can't sneak over to my friends house and take a few cars for a spin in Project Cars 2 and vice versa after I get GT Sport ;)

Dee_912770d ago

Was there any controller lag with pcars 2?

Zeke682769d ago (Edited 2769d ago )

@Dee_91
We used a steering wheel (Thrustmaster T300 RS EU) and it felt really smooth for 95% or so, but I think the little micro stutters we could see and feel was videostutter, not caused by the wheel, that could be solved with a gamepatch. Because that was mainly during starts with alot of cars grouped up. As the races went on it felt really smooth overall. So that's probably an optimization thing.
The very little time I played with a dualshock wasn't enough to judge anything by, but spontaneously it didn't feel just as smooth as with the steering wheel, but that's probably just because I have always prefered a wheel since I bought one myself and got used to it ;)
My friend has an original PS4 but sadly he bought the game digitally so I can't just borrow it and try it out on my Pro just like that, but if possible I try convincing him to come over and download it on my system so we can try it out. But don't hold your breath, he's usually not so happy seeing games look much better on my PS4 Pro because his wife think after console, VR, Farpoint with rifle and whatnot, hes gaming budget is on hold hehe ;)

TKCMuzzer2769d ago (Edited 2769d ago )

Comparing GT Sport beta and Project Cars 2 if you are using a controller, stick to GT Sport, it feels much better and precise, if you want a career mode, go Project Cars 2, just be prepared for some twitchty handling (and weird penalty system).
I have PC2 for the single player but will get GT Sport for MP races as I have a feeling the GT Sport community will be a better online driving community (less ramming etc)

Gazondaily2770d ago

You never know, GT Sport can surprise. I think we might see a tough race between the 3

TKCMuzzer2769d ago

GT Sport is going after the online audience who like to race properly, I imagine there will be quite a few good player hitting that one.

Bigpappy2770d ago

Between GT and Forza, it just boils down to which system you own.
Between Project cars and Forza, they both look very nice, but I think Forza will have a solid edge it the looks department. It will come down to how authentic they seem to handle and how fun and engaging the events are.

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81BX2770d ago

Ummm does that make GT less fun?

Atticus_finch2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

I choose GT and once it becomes cheaper I will also get PC2.

MrFisher212770d ago

Glasses are needed for this one

jmetalhead778122770d ago

Forza will always be my first choice, but GT looks really good. To say it doesn't look "nearly" as good is coming off kinda trollish. All three look fantastic. Good time to be a racing fan!

Bigpappy2770d ago

Not really. pc2 and F7 are much better graphical showcases because they are featuring on stronger hardware. Nothing there to fret about.

jmetalhead778122770d ago

@ bigpappy

I've looked at footage of all 3, and they all look great. Although I think F7 looks best, it's minimal. To say GT sport doesn't look NEARLY as good is trolling. Sorry, that's not an objective view and is said to get a reaction.

DigitalRaptor2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

At this stage, Gran Turismo Sport's lighting system is incredible and is what gives it its signature look - and it so happens that they've done so much better done there than Turn 10 have with Forza 7's lighting, which looks flat and dull by comparison. Of course, the other games don't have VR integration on console, so I'll be enjoying that.

Zabatsu2770d ago

Haha, come on man, don’t even go there.

OffRoadKing2769d ago

So you have an xbox, got it.

teo722769d ago

Didn't like Project cars 2, and I don't have xbox one, so it's Gt Sport for me

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zypher2770d ago

Got this feeling GT Sport will sustain the duration of PS4, and we won't see GT7 till PS5.

darthv722770d ago

Well that would suck if true. Plus it breaks the trend of 2 GT games per console cycle.

Then again sony already threw a wrench in the mix when they released the pro so.... yeah.

The_Sage2770d ago

Do you also think that Microsoft threw a wrench into the works with the Xbox One X (terrible name...they should have stuck with Scorpio)?

I'm asking honestly. I'm not trying to come off as a jerk in any kind of way.

darthv722770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

Perhaps, sage but since this comment is about GT I really cant say.

nowitzki20042770d ago

They will release GT7 on PS4. If anything GT7 will end up on PS5 as well.

rainslacker2770d ago

I'd be fine with that if they include a proper career mode at some point. I can easily play a GT game for 2-3 years.

greywolf392770d ago

GT SPORT and Forza 7 looks stunning and project cars 2 should not be even compared to those Two. WTF where they doing in slightly mad?!?! Graphics are horrible

Lamboomington2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

So graphics are the be all and end all ? The truth is that's the only thing most people will pay attention to when it comes to online comparisons. Graphics are not the most important. Besides, Project Cars has a lot more going on than those two.

Dynamic Time of day and weather, fully 3d vegetation (maybe this was a wrong decision though) and a whole lot of environmental simulation that the other two don't do.

Forza has some weather, but still static Time of Day. All that pretty lighting doesn't come for free you see. GTSport has static lighting and no weather at all. Infact they even stated that the static lighting allowed for better lighting quality. It's always a compromise. It's a big difference. PCars 2 has to handle so much more because it's this dynamic.

IRetrouk2769d ago

Gt sport does have weather, just not dynamic weather like gt 5 and 6, also the lighting is still dynamic, its just at a fixed time instead of going through changes during the race.

Ju2770d ago

Forza drives the same since I don't know when. Same game shinier each year. Still arcade and probably will always be. Sure pretty, but if the XBO can run this in 60fps @ 1080p than you know why.

GT always had the best physics. For the best or the worst. Didn't always improve, I'd say, but still the most authentic car handling - where each car actually feels different, even the sucky ones.

PC2 is a nice alternative. Haven't driven it, unfortunately but would want to give it a go. As a PC gamer of course that is a game which pulls of dynamic weather and supports the Pro and includes some real courses; and unfortunately no more DC(2). So, GT and PC2 has to do.

FlyShootRaceSims2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

@ Ju, GT always had the best physics. No, just no.
Sims: TOCA, F1, iRacing, AC, PC, etc.
Simcades: GT, Forza, Sega GT
Arcades: DC, Shift, Test Drive, NFS, Mario Kart, etc.

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marquisray2770d ago

I have a ps pro and I'm waiting for my x, it would be nice b4 judging every tried all 3

Condemnedman2770d ago

exactly how can you judge before you try well said

slavish02769d ago

90% of this site needs to follow that rule

nowitzki20042770d ago

Same thing I though. Have only played PC2 so far so its not really fair for the other games at this point lol. Ill be getting GT Sport as well.

mark_parch2769d ago

exactly, at the minute i plan on getting forza 7 after playing the demo and gt sport beta. but i am going to wait till ACG reviews all 3 to make up my mind

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Gran Turismo Sport Has Been Delisted From PS Store

Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.

ApocalypseShadow475d ago

The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.

purple101475d ago

But in this case everyone who has it still has it

And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline

ApocalypseShadow474d ago (Edited 474d ago )

But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.

If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?

There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.

Bathyj473d ago

Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.

If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.

Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.

If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.

fan_of_gaming473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."

It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.

If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.

Cacabunga473d ago

People should stand against digitalization

purple101473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical

Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as

365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com

All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.

Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice

No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool

With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article

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DigitallyAfflicted474d ago

Maybe this will make people realise the future of digital-only games

purple101474d ago

This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies

DigitallyAfflicted474d ago

@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.

My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…

blackblades474d ago

I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.

ApocalypseShadow474d ago (Edited 474d ago )

It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.

He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "

EvertonFC473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.

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EvertonFC473d ago

If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.

Barlos473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?

For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.

frostypants473d ago

I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.

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Father__Merrin473d ago

Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7

Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad

Agent75473d ago

You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?

shinoff2183473d ago

Physical games for yet another win.

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Gran Turismo Sport End of Online Services

On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.

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shadowT573d ago (Edited 573d ago )

Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.

purple101573d ago

GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.

For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.

Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.

The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi

badz149572d ago

So...will they enable offline saves now or what?

VariantAEC567d ago

From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."

So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.

Agent75572d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.

OmegaSoldati572d ago

Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.

VariantAEC567d ago

Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.

We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.

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GranTurismo World Series 2022 | World Finals | Nations Cup | Regional Finals

30 of the world's top GT drivers arrive in Monaco after a highly competitive 2022 Series. They must now navigate a regional qualifying group featuring drivers from their home regions for a place at the Grand Final.
12 drivers from each respective group including the top three from Asia-Oceania, Americas, and Europe/Middle East/Africa groups, and the top three from the Repechage will qualify for the Grand Final.

Agent75572d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.