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PS4 Dev Guerrilla Games 'Heavily Investing' in Decima Engine

The Decima Engine is a very powerful piece of technology and it created Horizon Zero Dawn. Even with its early success, PS4 developer Guerrilla Games wants to advance it even further.

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masterfox2837d ago

Awesome to know!, Horizon looks gorgeous and the new Kojima game looks awesome as well, soooo how about some info for a new Killzone Guerrilla ?, I wouldn't mind a reboot. :D

thekhurg2837d ago

It's a great engine for sure. Would be nice if more Sony 1st party games used it. Similar to how EA uses DICE's engine now for all their games.

IliasApos2837d ago

Naughty dogs engine is equally as impressive as decima
And sony santa monica's engine is a beast to!!!

itBourne2837d ago (Edited 2837d ago )

I would rather them keep to their diverse set of engines they have. They already colaberate very well with eachother in sharing methods and ideas. Sony has had teams in place to share and help their 1st and even 2nd and 3rd party studios for a long time.

andrewsquall2837d ago (Edited 2837d ago )

EA have already overused that engine too much. Its horrible in racing games like NFS since they used it for NFS The Runs in 2011.
And then every single other game that uses it has human character models that all look way too similar and generic since Army of Two 3.

@IliasApos ND's engine is incredible too but they will have to go back to their PS2 days and try to get the engine to be able to incredible open world stuff again with day to night cycles like the Jak games if they want to beat Guerilla with their next brand new IP :)

bouzebbal2836d ago (Edited 2836d ago )

Sony studios have so many brilliant engines for different types of games.
Devs are using each other's engines once in a while like until dawn...

mechlord2836d ago

You know, that might sound like a good idea on the surface but its not. Games are games but they are vastly different. One engine for everything cant be a good solution. maybe 3-4 (sony can do this) would be the best solution.
You don't take a laFerrari to visit your granny on the countryside by the mountains. Its still a car tho.

AmUnRa2836d ago

Didn't you know? The First party devs of Sony are working together for years now..
When someone finds a way to get more out of the PS4 they giving this information to other First party developers.

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Asuka2837d ago

really could go for a new Killzone. Be it a reboot, or whatever.

jukins2837d ago

It's coming you can bet on it.

frostypants2837d ago

The last Killzone used the Decima engine. I think they're done with KZ for a while.

BlakHavoc2837d ago

Enjoyed KZ but I want two more HZDs before they go bk lol.

RevXM2836d ago

Im sure GG has more than one team, after Horizon Im really curious about what they could pull off with the same resources and effort put into a new KZ installment.
Anyways cant wait for more Horizon.

UCForce2837d ago

That's very good to hear.

IliasApos2837d ago

Ps5 will be the real home of Decima
Horizon zd looks amazing but there are some shortcoming here and there
With ps5 over 10 tflops gpu ryzen cpu and more memory the future looks bright!!!

showtimefolks2837d ago

I think ps5 will launch fall 2019 with

10-12TF
16 plus GB ram

It's gonna be awesome

Rimeskeem2837d ago

It would be interesting if they launched a new Vita with it.

Imagine

The PS5 and the PSV. Nice combo right there.

DarXyde2837d ago

I would push that back a year to 2020 personally. 2019 feels pretty soon, especially with a mid-generation refresh.

I also think 10-12TF feels like a low-ball estimate. In terms of FLOPS, PS4 is 4.6x more powerful than PS3. It would be a considerable leap from the base hardware, but less than that if you consider that Pro exists. Then again, Sony might make PS5 that kind of a leap from PS4 and a PS5 Pro make a 16+TF transition.

Personally, I would rather they hold off on releasing PS5 for a year or two if it means we stop with iterative hardware.

zivtheawesome2836d ago

it should be 2020 to let the 7nm process to mature in my opinion.
12TF vega with navi features (a bit more if we are lucky)
zen 2/3 processor
20GB ram (i am not sure what type as there are a few options here).
after a few calculation with these specs i reached the conclusion that developers would create games mostly at 2160c resolution.

DarXyde2837d ago

I really didn't see much in the way of shortcomings at all. Horizon is an immensely detailed game with a very lush environment and great lighting and runs extremely well (I think I noticed *one* small frame rate hitch at the very end of the game). It's seriously incredible and I play on the base PS4.

Horizon withstanding, Guerrilla's games aren't my thing, but no one can knock them. They seriously know their way around hardware.

Zero_Suit_Samus2836d ago

@DarXyde

“I really didn't see much in the way of shortcomings at all.“

The only thing I noticed was the water physics. It doesn’t physically react to Aloy or enemies. Other than that it’s the best looking game I’ve ever seen. Beautiful and rock solid performance.

frostypants2836d ago (Edited 2836d ago )

Water physics. Vegetation physics (only grass reacts to player). Also, some of the cool little wildlife things (ants on tree, flocks of birds) were insanely rare. I'd love to see more of that.

It's still the prettiest game out there, but like any game it's got some things that could be improved.

RommyReigns2837d ago

Awesome, it's currently the best engine in gaming and with Horizon not taking advantage of the power of the Pro despite being so awesome already, the engine can only get better.

Obscure_Observer2837d ago (Edited 2837d ago )

@RommyReings

"Horizon not taking advantage of the power of the Pro"

What? Horizon is one of the few titles which takes full advantage of Pro´s hardware. Currently is the only AAA game which manages to hit 2160p Checkerboard on Pro. It also supports supersample. GG did an awesome job with Horizon on Pro.

Cmv382837d ago

I think he was implying built only with the pro architecture in mind.

Bruh2837d ago

Or middle earth which hits a native 4K on the Pro

Irishguy952836d ago

"Built only with the pro architecture" -

Eh...yeahh its called x86, just like ps4

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Bruh2837d ago

What? Lol by what means?

The ND engine is even more technically impressive than this

If you're talking scalability that belongs to UE4

So I'm not seeing where it's the best

Obscure_Observer2837d ago (Edited 2837d ago )

Decima is awesome and should be the prime engine for all PS4 games! Just like Frostbite is for EA games.

Timesplitter142837d ago

It would be so awesome if they released the engine publicly just like UE4 and Unity at some point

Razzer2837d ago

That isn't going to happen. Decima is proprietary internal technology. Sony has more interest in keeping it so rather than entering the engine licensing business. Same for other internal engines such as EA's frostbite and Ubisoft's Anvil.

Timesplitter142836d ago (Edited 2836d ago )

@Razzer
Okay first of all: you and I, we don't own Sony. So why would we care? There is no reason why we'd care unless we're fanboys. And we're not fanboys, right?

And second of all: Both Unity and UE4 made billions with their "free" engine. This is a much more viable commercial strategy than the old, outdated private licensing strategy. The profits of releasing the engine publicly are so much more immense that it isn't even comparable. Ask Tim Sweeney of Epic

Rimeskeem2837d ago

Maybe for open world. But i think there are certain engines better for certain games. Naughty Dog has a phenomenal engine for their games and I think they should stay with it.

Obscure_Observer2837d ago

Naughty Dog´s engine is awesome but it´s a old (but updated) PS3 engine. But i do agree with you that Sony´s first party studios has awesome engines which could be used for different types of games. Sucker Punch´s Infamous SS engines is fantastic and i want to see more games running on it.

fatbastard112836d ago

Titanfall is EA and didn't use Frostbite.I doubt Need For Speed does either.

Obscure_Observer2836d ago

You´re right about Titanfall wich is still Source, But Need For Speed is Frostbite.

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Gamers Concerned About Borderlands 4 Potentially Costing $80, Gearbox Chief Randy Pitchford Replies

Randy writes: "A) Not my call. B) If you’re a real fan, you’ll find a way to make it happen. My local game store had Starflight for Sega Genesis for $80 in 1991 when I was just out of high school working minimum wage at an ice cream parlor in Pismo Beach and I found a way to make it happen."

Christopher8h ago

*no one buys the game*

Randy: "Where are our real fans?"

*gamers stare back*

-Foxtrot8h ago

Real fan? What the actual f*** man

Does he actually read back what he writes before he posts

neutralgamer199255m ago

I was the biggest BL fan. I played the original solo for so many times. I pre ordered BL2 that loot chest edition and loved it. I bought BL3 on sale and never even touched it's DlC and have very little interest in 4th. For a series that started so strong it's just amazing how much nonsense this series has become with idiot choices

Goodguy018h ago

Still hate this guy's PR work lol. Hopefully game has gameshare.

gold_drake7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

herez a little magic trick Randy boy i wont buy it if its 80 dollars.

cause that means its gonna be more expensive for euro land.

i am a fan, but i like my money more. ha

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Neil Druckmann Reveals He’s Working on an Unannounced Game at Naughty Dog

Neil Druckmann, the creative director of The Last of Us, is working on a new, unannounced game at Naughty Dog.

RaidenBlack14h ago

I know they've expertise in third person games.
But given the lack there of in PS catalog, I'd want the other project to be a narrative first person ND game.
Look, there are lots of 3rd person Sony games in variety of flavors. And ND is already doing intergalactic. And since they're pretty expert at gameplay and tech wise in whatever they do, they can easily venture a new genre and ship a first person game/shooter.

VenomUK13h ago

Hopefully the lead character is a boss babe who will challenge the patriarchy.

RaidenBlack12h ago

So, judging from the dislikes, hardcore Sony fans here don't like first person games, anymore?

arkard10h ago

Let naughty dog do what they are great at, 3rd person games

crazyCoconuts6h ago

I don't really have a big opinion on first vs third person perspective. That's one of the least important things to me when rating how much I like a game

Flewid6382h ago

Sounds horrible. The downvotes are right on this one.

badz1491h ago

I actually hate 1st person. very hard to associate with a character you only see their hands most of the time.

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OtterX13h ago

funny thing is with failures like Concord and soon to be Marathon, Factions could have been Sony's guaranteed huge success with a shooter! I don't ever play online shooters anymore, but I would have come out of shooter retirement for a new Factions game.

darthv7213h ago

...Way of the Warrior 2: Electric Boogaloo

Amplitude13h ago

It’d be cool if they bought the Parappa licence and made Parappa 3 that’d be the real good timeline

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Lightning771d 1h ago

Wait I thought they cancelled a game? Or did they announce another project?

https://wccftech.com/naught...

pwnmaster300021h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I’m assuming it’s the unannounced game in the title you posted.

“Naughty Dog Reportedly Canceled a Single Player Game This Year, But Another Unannounced Game Is Still in the Works“

Lightning7710h ago

OK I gotcha. That makes sense.

jznrpg7h ago

Devs cancel games all the time early stages if it doesn’t turn out the way they envisioned it. We just don’t hear about every one of them.

badz1491h ago

so a 2028 release at the soonest

Lightning771h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Some speculate it could be Uncharted spin off. It's already 3 years in production so yeah 2028 maybe 2027 at the absolute earliest but most likely 28 release.

Also to add. kojimas next game that's not OD is said to be 5 to 6 years out for PS. That metal gear inspired game. These games are just too far off it seems.

pwnmaster300021h ago

This dude is busy.
So who is running intergalactic?

Knushwood Butt19h ago

'We have several directors on Intergalactic. I work with two game directors: Matthew Gallant and Kurt Margenau, [and] I have a co-writer in Clair Carré.'

pwnmaster30005h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Okay you got me, I skimmed the article and video .
Thanks lol

vTuro2413h ago

Cuckmann is going to be Naughty Dog's downfall.

itBourne3h ago

Going to be? The damage is already done lol.

Flewid6382h ago

Sunlight is good for you, I promise. lol

Flewid6382h ago

yall say that about ever developer and then they end up becoming more successful lol

mkis00758m ago

Downfall? If anything he is a huge reason they are on the map! A few apes don't like the material hasn't stopped his games from being massive hits.

DarXyde56m ago

I have grievances with Druckmann, but he does deserve some benefit of the doubt. He's been in crucial roles at the company through all of their successes.

Maybe wait and see?

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StormSnooper13h ago

Interesting. So they are working on more than we knew.

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Hideo Kojima says 60% of Death Stranding playtesters thought it "was a terrible game"

Luckily, everyone seems to like Death Stranding 2

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lelo2play1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Kojima has always been full of it... this is another example of his BS.

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

lelo2play has always been full of it, and one of the long lasting trolls here... this is another example of his BS comments.

1nsomniac1d 12h ago

100% the guy is the absolute king of his own bullshit. Kojima and his fans baffle me with how brazen they are with it!

Pyrofire951d 7h ago

Have you ever cared about something?

__SteakDeck__1d 14h ago

@MrNinosan Obscure has always been full of it and is another troll.

TheEroica1d 10h ago

Kojima is as dumb as a stack of bricks. 🤷 His lust over gamers hating his games is just silly. He's a lousy story teller and he should stick to making games built around compelling gameplay.... The moment a cutscene starts my eyes auto roll.

Z5011d 8h ago

Couldn't even imagine rolling my eyes since 1998

P_Bomb1d 7h ago

Dumb as a stack of bricks? Funny, some comments have the same effect on me. Instant eye roll.🙄

jznrpg2d ago

I’m replaying the first game it’s great. It’s not for everyone no doubt. There are still a lot of people playing it.

anast1d 15h ago

It's a really good game. Heartman is my favorite character.

SlothLordPootus1d 1h ago

I'm playing through it for my first time, enjoying parts of it, and other parts not so much. It's definitely a Kojima ass game in all the good and bad ways. Honestly the combat/stealth sucks ass in it tho, which is really the worst part for me, which is a bit inconceivable given MGS V.

Knushwood Butt1d ago

Exactly. The combat and stealth suck and are just shoehorned in to deliver a layer of challenge.
Hold your breath when going through the same BT areas EVERY time.
Nonsense about weather forecasts when it ALWAYS rains in certain areas no matter what.
Tedious Cliff fights.
Dumb BT fights that you can 100% walk (wade) away from without the enemies attacking you.
Broken lore about dead bodies.
The list is long.
Having said that, I've platinumed both versions from scratch.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Then why do a sequel straight away?

Why not something else like maybe a horror game similar to Silent Hills but rebranded into a new IP.

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Rainbowcookie1d 23h ago

Reverse psychology...ok I won't buy it then.

Eonjay1d 23h ago

To be honest, he is in a great situation if he doesn't have to make a mass market product. Means he can make what he wants. I think that's great.

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