Playground and Turn10 directors discuss where the series goes from here.
BLG writes: "When the Forza Horizon games franchise launched in 2012, it was an enjoyable spin-off of the highly successful simulation racer. A decade later, the Horizon series has overtaken Forza Motorsport series as one of, if not the, premiere driving video games of all time."
Don't think there's literally a "worst" Forza game man. Microsoft just makes these too damn good.
Microsoft didn't develop (make) Forza, Playground Games did.
Microsoft simply published it.
I see no difference being they've only ever made games for Microsoft on Microsoft's dime for the entirety of their existence as a developer.
@MadLad:
The amount of MTs and repeated attempts at rivalry towards Gran Turismo.
@god, i think you are confusing motorsport with horizon. MS is compared to GT, Horizon isnt.
lol.. pedantic much? ^ PG and the Forza IP are owned by Microsoft.
FH5 may be a technical marvel but it's been a buggy mess since launch and PG seem intent to add new content without ever bothering to fix anything. Many of which were bugs that were also in FH4.
FH3
FH1
FH4
FH5
FH2 (still good but the structure was messed up - too much emphasis on grinding "roadtrips" which was tedious)
They didn’t buy Playground until 2018 or 2019 I forget which year but it hasn’t been that long . The first Forza came out in 2005 . So most of the games were published by MS at the time but they didn’t own PlayGround. MS doesn’t make good studios in general , they buy them .
When Sony buys a studio after working with them for a couple of games, people on here call it an "organic purchase". MS & Playground made three very good games, based on an existing IP using an engine made by Turn 10 before purchasing them. But it is still pedantic. Shall we say that Sony didn't make The Last of Us? Or that they don't "own" the first 12 Ratchet & Clank games because they only purchase Insomniac a few years back? We all know what they meant.
Anyway, Forza Motorsport has always been developed by Turn 10. Which Microsoft built from the ground up. So when you refer to games from 2005, your point about only buying studios is completely wrong.
You left out a FH2, there were two versions. The one made for XBO by playground and the one made for 360 by sumo digital. There are enough differences to warrant each one being on its own.
FH3 is my favourite by a long shot. I got surprisingly bored of FH5 quick enough unfortunately so that's down the bottom of my list
I really dont care for any of the horizons. Hate having to do what I'm told. Forza 7 was the same, I didn't want to do anything other than race cars. But it made me drive lorries!!!..
Technically they all good games but I want the next Forza to be a proper car racer, all the trucks etc can be put under an arcade racing section which I never have to go into.
The mandatory gimmick races are a bit of a bad habit in FM games, atleast since 5. Also dislike the heavy amount of unskipable cutscenes and dialouge in FM5 and perhaps 7.
Tbh I found FH3 to actually be my favourite and the one I played the most.
The one I got bored of very quickly was 4. Wasn't a fan of the seasons and driving round England was boring cause its where I live. Got very old quick.
I still think 2 (Xbox One version) is my personal best. Driving an Italian supercars on an Italian highway just feel so "right"!!!!! "2" make me understand why Italian make those supercars.
I don't know why so many do not like 4. I like the seasonal change & dramatic weather change. 5 seems to dial the weather change way way down that the weather seldom change (Is the real Mexico really has such a perfect weather all the time?).
KeenGamer: "The advanced sky capturing gives the Forza Horizon franchise a natural and realistic feeling. Yet, it's a long process from capturing to complete in-game sky. It's a technology that was introduced during the development of Forza Horizon 3, which provided more beauty and were widely praised by players."
Forza 4 looks really great now that Series updates have been applied. In Forza 5 Microsoft uses photo technology throughout the entire game. The volcano setting in Mexico looks amazing!
Incredible looking game, and it's not even powered by the next iteration of the ForzaTech engine which is still developed by Turn10.
Time to flex that 12TF.
The Playground Games team announced earlier today on Twitter and the Forza forums that 2016’s Forza Horizon 3 will be racing off into the sunset on September 27th, 2020. As they’ve done with previous installments in the series, Forza Horizon 3 will be on sale until it reaches “end of life” status on the 27th at which time the game and all of its DLC will be removed from digital stores.
This is why I buy physical when I can. I remember losing MvC2 on PS3 because Disney bought the license and I couldn't download it anymore.
That’s one of the issues about digital games. Those who never got to buy these games will be out of luck unless a physical copy exists.
I agree. The problem is the music companies are greedy and want game publishers to sign new contracts. It should be that music licenses for a game last forever for that specific game. That would prevent most games from being delisted.
I buy physical as well but keep in mind its not just the game that is effected but also the dlc. And this is nothing new for this series. Each previous iteration has been delisted about 4 years after release. So each year is another one to remove. This year it is FH3, last was FM6, the one prior was FH2 and before that it was FM5. Next year will be FM7 and the year after will be FH4.
I think they'll keep FM7 and FH4 up longer since we might not get another Forza game until 2022.
You can still download owned digital stuff you just can't buy them because license deals.
I can download the Marvel vs Capcom: Origins demo on PS3 since I downloaded it before the delisting but can't upgrade to the full version.
Yet I can download it right now. Maybe look in your download list. Sucks looking on ps3. But it's there 100%, just like TMNT reshelled was there still for me for the period it was delisted and Scott Pilgrim is still there for me
What are you talking about if you have the day you still have it . It's just not available from the digital store. Smh
All digital is the future everyone.
Get used to never truly owning your games ever again.
You still have access if you purchased the game. So, no, that statement isn't correct. If it is something you purchased, you own it. Not saying it CAN'T happen, but I've only seen it happen in the mobile phone market, where you cant access content you previously purchased, personally.
I own P.T. It might not have cost anything but I added it to my basket, went through the checkout, purchased a £0.00 costing game.
They removed that from the store and I can no longer download it.
@Jon
And? Do you know how many promotional demos have been lost to time? There's a giant difference between losing access to promotional material, of which you did not pay for, and losing access to a game you purchased outright.
Name a game that you purchased outright on a known storefront, of which you were restricted from accessing after the fact. Outside of online only games whose servers were taken down. Mainly a console thing, considering there are normally workarounds on PC.
@Jon
And? Do you know how many promotional demos have been lost to time? There's a giant difference between losing access to promotional material, of which you did not pay for, and losing access to a game you purchased outright.
Name a game that you purchased outright on a known storefront, of which you were restricted from accessing after the fact. Outside of online only games whose servers were taken down. Mainly a console thing, considering there are normally workarounds on PC.
Problem is it's only a matter of time before you can't download purchased games. Backing up to a harddrive is players best bet to keep all their content. Hopefully this will be possible on the PS5/XBXS
It has happened with music more often than you'd think. I think there's been a movie service or two that has shut down as well. So sure, while they're still up and running, you can still download your purchases, but if they close up shop, then it's gone.
You used to at least own a "licence" to play the game
With Sub services, Gamepass/PS now etc... you dont even have a licence for the game anymore.
Looks at all my digital music and movies stored on my disks and NAS. I wish I owned all this stuff that I own.
I used to have a big problem with digital, but as I got older I realized everything is just on loan to me anyways so now I buy physical if it’s something I really want too hold on to but 90% of the time it’s Digital for me.
Incorrect statement. This is just the equal situation to a game not being available as new in a store anymore.
Thankls for sharing, bought the ultimate editon for 23 euro. First time since years I bought something from that store. Sucks they never got it to Steam
Why wouldn't they continue offering the game at a reduced rate, like old games on steam? Silly decision.
Where do these sites come up with this stuff? Forza franchise is only like 30 million sold if that. Gran Turismo is over 70 Million. So how is Forza the "World's Biggest Racing Franchise" exactly?
Both Greenawalt and Hartman say the introduction of Playground has changed things entirely for Forza. It was Turn 10's idea to develop a Forza spin-off franchise, and they had clear ideas over what that might look like, but then Playground went off and delivered something altogether more unexpected.
And this relationship is different to how, say, the Call of Duty teams work together. Those studios report to Activision, whereas Playground report into Turn 10. As a result they share ideas, technology and even processes.
"It is not your typical publisher/developer relationship because Turn 10 is a developer as well," Raeburn says. "We speak the same language. We work with the same tech base."
Hartman then adds: "You wouldn't believe that these two teams are half a world apart."
Interesting article. Nice to see both teams work closely together on everything. FH3 is truly an amazing open world racing game. The fact that Playground Games reports to T10 and not MS is surprising and after seeing the beautiful open world created in FH3 It's no surprise to see them working on an open world game next. I can't wait to see what they have planned next for Forza Horizon and the new ip.
Forza nor Need For Speed were never the world's largest racing ip. Gran Turismo has had that title for nearly two decades.
Yup Forza is the best Racer. Motorsport and Horizon both take the top spot.
Nothing comes close.