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Is The Switch's Online Service Destined To Fail?

During their Switch announcement, Nintendo proved once again that they have no idea what makes a solid online gaming platform.

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derkasan2715d ago

I think the hoops you have to jump through just to get chat working are ridiculous. Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate had voice chat - why can't they do something similar here?

dead_pixels2715d ago

Absolutely agree. The smartphone app seems like nothing more than a case of the always overbearing Nintendo trying to restrict players from getting too cozy with strangers.

Concertoine2715d ago

I think its more like they were too lazy to build an actual network. I can already call people on a phone - are they taking away my ability to invite them until i buy an app?

bouzebbal2715d ago

Well simply because I'd you dock the tablet you have no chance

rjason122715d ago

Who knows? It would be cool if they let you pay for months/year with mynintendo platinum coins. Give us some use for them lol.

jaymacx2715d ago

Would be cool but that ain't happening lol. However I am reserving judgment on this until i get to try it myself.. many ppl in here comment without experience to back up their rants.

thekhurg2715d ago

Wait. They're making you pay for online but then requiring you to use your own smart device for chat? LOL

Goldby2715d ago

Thats the solution DeNA brought to the table

Nodoze2713d ago

I would also assume that they are going to try to use the network/bandwidth from said smart device to play online as well. There is no other way to truly play on the go. So you will be triple dinged. 1. The Service from Nintendo 2. Your Mobile Device contract 3. Your mobile device bandwidth charges (which can vary based on carrier).

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2715d ago (Edited 2715d ago )

oh so you know the Full Detail about the online and what it capable of?

dead_pixels2715d ago (Edited 2715d ago )

No, and we're not claiming to. But unless Nintendo is saving some real bombshells for the next couple of weeks we can only go off whats been revealed, and the words from Kimishima's own mouth, along with their track record when it comes to these things, don't inspire much confidence.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2715d ago (Edited 2715d ago )

And you're ignoring the fact that DeNA is handling the Online not Nintendo.

Which is why it paid online and centered around your smartphone.

dead_pixels2715d ago

I'm fully aware of that, but it doesn't do anything to make the service appear less roundabout and disjointed, now does it?

jaymacx2715d ago

It may appear that way (disjointed) by our perception but until we actually experience it our rants are nothing but steam.

dead_pixels2715d ago

@Jaymacx - I agree, and trust me, I hope my fears are proven wrong as I've already pre-ordered two Switch consoles, but with essentially just weeks until the console launches, Nintendo really needs to do something to clear the air and give consumers a better idea of what they're getting into.

Like I said, all we have is their word to go off right now, and what's being offered doesn't sound like a solution that's any better than essentially calling your friends or linking up on skype to organize an online match. And that's a problem.

OrangePowerz2715d ago

Otaku, I'm pretty sure it's still Nintendo who is in charge and they will tell DeNA what they want how they want it.

That it's paid and that you need to use a smartphone app is still probably a decision from Nintendo. I don't see why it wouldn't be since Voice Chat is a very straight forward concept that's around since ages. The Dreamcast supported voice chat in games directly on the console on crappy Internet. It's a lot more likely it has something to do with Nintendos idea of "strangers interacting with strangers" than with DeNA telling Nintendo that they can't do voice chat on the same device.

It's also not DeNA who tells Nintendo they have to charge players and give them only a NES or SNES game. It's up to Nintendo if they want to suck up costs or redirect them to their players and what they get in exchange.

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PhoenixUp2715d ago

Dude stop being in denial. Nintendo hasn't shown anything that proves their online service will be a competent network

Derceto2715d ago

No, it's not. It's already failed, and it's not even out yet. There's no magic that Nintendo could cast to propel their network forward 10 years from the comical shell it was prior to Switch.

Miss_Weeboo2715d ago

You could do it in 3 months... if you invest the money

Omnislashver362715d ago (Edited 2715d ago )

Would it even matter if they could somehow update the infrastructure? They don't have enough online games for it to matter anyway.

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Xbox Studios Boss: We "Deserve a Pretty Positive Grade" for Xbox Games Showcase

Xbox Game Studios boss Matt Booty thinks they "deserve a pretty positive grade" for the recent Xbox Games Showcase

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phoenixwing14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

You bought it all around six months ago. You spent billions because the company is literally inept but yeah a plus man

OtterX14h ago

It's like a kid that pays the smart kid in class to do his science fair project for him, then brags "Hey, look what I made! That's an A+ effort right there!"

GamerRN5h ago

Wait didn't Sony buy all the great studios THEY own also? So Microsoft is a villain for trying to catch up?

OtterX3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

@GamerRN the only example I can think of that you're referring to is Bungie with Destiny? Maybe a few others that were already in financial risk of closure?

Almost all the others were long nurtured studios that Sony help build up from their beginnings. Insomniac for instance is what it is today because of Sony's support from the early PS1 days from Spyro to Ratchet & Clank onward. (Or for me, the hidden gem Disruptor) Insomniac even gave Microsoft a chance w Sunset Overdrive and hardly anyone bought it, so Insomniac saw MS as a wasted effort. They probably heard about the Gamepass plans early on b4 it was announced and ran. Gamepass is where games go to die bc unless you're in the 5% most successful titles, you're in risk of your game, and possibly your studio dying off.

-Foxtrot12h ago

Here’s the thing and I know it’s going to cause a stir like it’s some fanboy bullshit but it needs to be said

Microsoft did indeed have a great showcase, no way about it, they did

BUT…theres a lot of ways to go about it

We’ve been moaning for years how studios constantly keep showing off games that are years away and the thing is this is exactly what Microsoft has done this year

Simple reveal trailers to fully showing of a bit of gameplay, it’s irrelevant the fact is Microsoft already revealed Perfect Dark, Fable, State of Decay, Avowed, Indiana Jones before the showcase and some of those titles were revealed a LONG time ago. They did the same thing with Hellblade 2 for a while until it finally released, it always felt it was at every show. Gears of War had no release date so how many shows is that going to be at realistically? I just assumed going by the comments online people hated this sort of stuff and yet the next they praise it. We’ve still got other games MS revealed a while back and will get more re-reveals in the future so the same will happen again.

Then you have multiplatform games on top of all that because let’s be honest between the Summer Game Fest and Microsofts Showcase you’ll want to reveal your games at something more established and bigger so these big third party studios will chose Microsoft to show their games at since Sony hasn’t got any presence at these shows and people like EA don’t really do their own shows because they are always terrible.

It just feels like overtime, if Microsoft finally go third party in the next few years, the Microsoft Showcase will basically become a third party mini E3 show more multiplatform developers will want to get in on as long as there’s an Xbox version.

Obscure_Observer11h ago

"You bought it all around six months ago. You spent billions because the company is literally inept but yeah a plus man"

Sure thing...

Perfect Dark, South of Midnight, Fable, Flight Simulator 2024, State of Decay and Gears 6 all looked incredible it those has absolutely nothing to do with ABK or even Bethesda.

I guess some people simply can´t accept that MS is on a whole new level of quality, quantity and variety that competition can´t come close!

Xbox has the whole generation on the lock and even some games to spare and save for the next generation console. All Top tier games day one on Gamepass including COD.

Things will only get better for us. This is just the beginning of something ever greater.

fr0sty8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Guess what they didn't show much of? Exclusive titles. Not even Gears 6 was cited to be exclusive to Xbox.

Looks like you were proven wrong yet again.

https://ibb.co/qWLK4Zp
https://ibb.co/Xk7Y5qj

andy858h ago

Haven't you learned to wait for release yet? You said the same about Redfall and Starfield. Looking great in previews is all well and good. It's how they actually play that matters. Where is this "whole new level of quality"? They've yet to even be nominated for game of the year, nevermind winning it. That's what a whole new level of quality means.

-Foxtrot8h ago

“Things will only get better for us. This is just the beginning of something ever greater”

Good grief.

Fanboy shit aside…come on

Cringe

Hotpot8h ago

ah spare me with this “us” mentality, you corpo mouthpiece are getting tiring...
if you’re a gamer and you see games you like buy it (and the device to play it if you haven’t) and move on, it’s a box not a homeland to defend.

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Don't be a slave to company please man and be open minded about different views man.

Jingsing4h ago

I see an Obscure_Observer post I don't read it but simply down vote it and I'm not even a simple man. :)

AsimLionheart47m ago

"Things will only get better for us. This is just the beginning of something ever greater."

My God. I can't even imagine what is wrong with this person and what kind of life he lives. Just look at the things he writes and spews. Can you imagine, he is talking about video games, just a form of entertainment? He talks as if he is on a holy crusade or a fight for freedom awaiting salvation or liberation. How can someone become so obsessed, crazed, and devoted to a videogame brand that serves no purpose in life except to provide some entertainment during your free time?

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piroh14h ago

As a primary Playstation gamer i give it positive grade since the showcase was OK and most of the games coming to PS5.

IMO best of the shows
Astro bot
Black myth wukong
Phantom blade zero
new Doom
new Gears
MGS Delta
Mario Party Jamboree
Zelda EoW

jznrpg8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Pass on Doom Gears and Mario party for me though my kids may want to play Mario Party. Also a temporary pass on Black Myth until they get discs in their house physical copies of the game. Not a huge fan of the Zelda art style but I will still get it as it has the old school gameplay

Eonjay3h ago

Expedition 33
Lego Horizon Adventures
MVC Fighting Collection

Goodguy019h ago

I would say so. Well done showcase. I do still miss E3 though as I still just don't really like these online showcases replacing much of the in person presentations where everyone gathers. Companies, devs, and fans of the whole industry (not just for one platform) alike at one event.

jznrpg8h ago

You deserve a steaming pile of shite just like the Series S you released to gimp this generation

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Bit Reactor’s Upcoming Star Wars Tactical Strategy Game: What We Know So Far

Discover the details about Bit Reactor’s new Star Wars tactical strategy game. Learn about its development team, gameplay vision, and what this means for the genre.

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A New Red Faction Game Was In Pre-Production Until Embracer Canceled It

A new Red Faction game was apparently in the works, but Embracer never greenlit it and instead canceled it along with studio layoffs.

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purple10116h ago(Edited 16h ago)

in the words of the great DJ Khaled,

"another one"

DefenderOfDoom215h ago

Really enjoyed playing Red Faction on PS2!!!

Nacho_Z12h ago

It's a shame that the level of environmental destruction in this series was treated as a novelty and not followed up.

I get that tightly controlling the gamer's experience is desirable but there must be some scope for some games to let people go nuts and for it to still make sense from a design perspective.

franwex11h ago

Yeah. Developers ditched that for better graphics. Even Red Faction developers are guilty of this.

Relientk7712h ago

Ugh another great series that could have returned

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