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Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K Screenshot Comparison: Native Maxed PC vs PS4Pro

After the PS4 Pro announcement, it's time to compare Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K running on a native PC with maxed settings and on the new console.

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KaiPow2820d ago

It's still quite impressive running on a machine that costs less than just a solid GPU.

Alexious2820d ago

Absolutely. There are differences, but they're fairly minor and probably hard to notice during gameplay.

Though a powerful enough PC could run it at 60FPS or more, while PS4 Pro will be limited at 30.

Eonjay2820d ago

Yeah it looks fantastic but lets be serious about the cost of a 'powerful enough PC'. Its weird because you would hear about PC gamers playing in 4k but I don't think anyone really was able to understand the cost of achieving this res at 60 FPS. So then this machine, the Pro, even upscaling with this much fidelity at 4k for $399 is unbelievable.

starrman19852820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

I'd say they are actually quite noticeable, but as KaiPow said - you're spending a LOT more to get a PC up to those visuals.

For the disagrees - I get that they both look great, but look at the blood textures on her arm, they look much flatter on the PS4 Pro. The textures on the artefact type thing on the right, where the light reflects off, you can see a lot more of the texture. The dynamic range of the lighting down her arm (that might be different monitor settings though) also the colours look a lot richer, but again that could be monitor settings. I just think the differences are definitely noticeable but I'm not trying to discredit the Pro. If someone said to me you can get game quality like the left image for £350 and quality like the right for £1200 - I'd take the left.

2pacalypsenow2820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

To run this game at a solid 60fps in 4k Maxed out you would need 2 1080 SLI that's over $1200 just in video cards. I think the majority of gamers will be fine with 30fps for $399

MadLad2820d ago

@2pacalypsenow

It really depends on where your standards lie.
I honestly can't stand gaming at 30fps.

I know people claim it's just fine and that it's perfectly playable ...
But that's just it ... it's just "playable".

Lowest common denominator doesn't work for me anymore.

Erik73572820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

You can't even truly see the differences though how can you say that?4k native will blow you away if your were seeing it in action on pc for a game like this. Everything is unbelievably sharp and you can see things from like a mile away it's crazy.

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Tech52820d ago

GTX 1060 Ultra settings (including Textures) 1440p uncapped performance.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

$259.99 GPU

Unspoken2820d ago

30 fps is last gen. Actually it was the gen before that. We used to have 60 fps games when CRT and tube television was the norm. Then 3D hit main stream and we accepted the lowest minimum standard to be playable.

We need to push hardware engineers and devs to hit the 60 fps sweet spot. We still have a ways to go before we see fluid gameplay at 120hz and 144hz but if we keep accepting the cinematic experience of the weaker hardware with no way to adjust it to achieve higher frame rates, then it will continue to look like a slide show that is just barely playable.

At $399, this is the sweet spot for midrange all in one compromise though I'd rather spend a couple extra hundred on an upgradable machine and play at any resolution and settings I choose. Paying 800 to 1K+ isn't reasonable but the modular design of the PC is what allows it to be attractive because you can spread the cost out as well as the ownership.

You can now attain ridiculously low power number's in small form factor PCs, and that trickles down to consoles, but at what cost. As consumers, let's get that 60 fps box checked so we can push other boundries.

Death2820d ago

It's ironic to see some people that still refuse to believe games upscaled from 900p to 1080p count, yet they absolutely believe upscaling from 1080p to 4K is a viable option.

If you are a PC gamer looking to game in native 4K, the GTX1070 is a great card for the cost of a PS4 Pro. I don't see many PC gamers jumping to a console for the same price as a midline GPU today. Keep in mind new GPU's released annually and the performance increase is huge. I'm not sure the theoretical PC gamers on a console budget exist. PC gaming is a completely different animal.

XanderZane2819d ago

@bruce755
Yes, but this is upscaled 4K running at 30fs. On PC it would be native 4K running at 30 or 60fps. XBox One upscaled all their games that weren't 1080P to 1080P and they looked beautiful as well. Yet fanboys screamed they weren't native 1080P and didn't look as good. The same could be said for this game as well. It won't look or run as good as a native 4K version. This is the cheap way of doing 4K on game consoles, even though it works. I just find it funny that everyone is now "accepting upscaling resolution" now that it's on the PS4. No one was accepting it on the XB1 however. So many hypocrites.

Yes, the game still looks great, but it's been said many times, before it was on the PS4. Without any upscaling.

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MadLad2820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

There are GPU's in the 200 - 250 range that hugely outperform today's consoles.
Yes, that's only one part. And yes, to build a modern gaming PC is more expensive than to simply purchase a console; at least when you're talking purely the cost of the hardware itself.
But let's be real here. We are long past the days where you need a $400+ GPU to be handling high performance gaming.

Scatpants2820d ago

$250 cards would struggle at 4k

Bladesfist2820d ago

@Scatpants So will the PS4 Pro and the Scorpio and High End GPUs. Everything struggles at 4k.

MadLad2819d ago

@Scatpants

I said literally nothing about 4K. I said that cards between 200 - $250 seriously outperform consoles in today's market. Why should we bring 4K into a comparison of consoles that sometimes don't even hit 1080p?

Erik73572820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

To me its not impressive. To me it's just "you get what you pay for".

Even then this image does not do justice with just how amazing native 4k looks.

Hoffmann2820d ago

You have folders on a pc tho :P

mark3214uk2820d ago

question is, is that 1080p up scaled to 2160p or 1440p up scaled to 2160p?

either way that rendering algorithm there using is amazing to make it look pretty much the same as native 4k

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kaizokuspy2820d ago

All I see in native is slightly better blood, rocks in the back look a tad sharper, lighting is slightly more luminescent, and obviously more foliage. Coming from someone who knows nothing about 4k, or pc gaming, ps4 pro still looks pretty amazing to me. I can't denied native looks better, but still, I'm impressed considering just 2 years ago I was still only using an x360 before getting a ps4

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Imp0ssibl32820d ago

PS4 Pro is a beast. Yes, Scorpio will be more powerful...Of course, it launches a year later.
I want to play games on my 4K HDR TV now.

SweatyFlorida2820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

You're exactly who they are targeting. It's weird people saying "what's the point of this console", it's quite literally a (relatively) cheap option that can run games better and make them look good in 4k/hdr displays, all while still providing a sizeable benefit for 1080p owners with enhanced graphics/fps. All before the holidays of THIS YEAR.

People expecting the console to render all games natively at 4k, yet still cost $399, are delusional. But as we've already seen, it will have some games that can do natively, maybe not the biggest and newest blockbusters, but I can expect some nice looking indies or smaller titles (among a few outliers like remasters) being native 4k for crisp graphics and color.

respekanize912820d ago

paddling in the same boat with you my friend...OG PS4 off to the bedroom you go.

boodi2819d ago

@impossible
'nuf said

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Aurenar2820d ago

Crystal Dynamics works very well. But I will play in my PS4 "standard". I'm not a Pro :p

ftwrthtx2820d ago

But how will next weeks update with HDR support for the current PS4's improve the graphics? If Sony made it look too good, they may have shot themselves in the foot.

starrman19852820d ago

HDR doesn't really improve the graphics as such, it's more the colours. You get a much higher dynamic range, so blacks will be blacker, things like sun rises etc will look beautiful because you'll see things how your eyes might rather than a lens.

Alexious2820d ago

It will only work for those who have an HDR display, anyway.

Tobsesan2820d ago

It won't even work on the standard PS4 how its supposed to. For the HDR 10 you need HDMI 2.0 to get its full potential.

Christopher2820d ago

The HDR patch will probably only affect 1% of PS4 owners now. And, then, not that much. It's like getting that free air freshener when you go to get your car washed. It's nice, but you were there to get a car washed primarily and that air freshener will be dead in a few days.

Roronoa04112820d ago

the downplaying is amazing…I guess its pointless to get an XB1S right now because 4K and HDR will only effect the 1%… got it.

Christopher2820d ago

@roronoa0411: If that's the only reason, yes. Mass majority of people don't have 4k TVs/monitors, let alone HDR capable ones. The selling point of this by both companies is ahead of itself.

Xb1ps42819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them...

This whole mentality of "I'm not ready" so everyone needs to wait needs to stop.. why shouldn't I be able to game in 4k because you don't have a 4k tv!?!?

And I'll take that free air freshener... thank you very much...

You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....

Christopher2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

***The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them... ***

And how many Lambergini commercials do you see compared to the marketing of HDR? The point here isn't if it should be there, the point is if it should be a key marketing point when it doesn't affect that many people.

***You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....***

No, I see it as them marketing something to people who don't have it yet and likely won't for about 5 year instead of other features that they do have and can be utilized now.

Xb1ps42819d ago

No the point here is the technology is moving forward... And it shouldn't stop because it's only going to serve 1% of the ppl at the moment.. And the point of marketing is to try and Convince ppl to move on to new technolog, now if you can afford it or not is a whole different story and my point is the ppl that can afford it should not be held back.

So you are basically saying... Screw us that have 4K tv with hdr because you won't get one for another 5 yrs, kind of selfish don't you think? Especially when you consider the fact that 4K tv is getting more affordable in a rapid pace much quicker than when hd was introduced...

And by the way HDR iS not the oonly selling point. if what you have is a 1080p tv you will see benefits too and if it's not enough of a benefit for you then wait those 5 yrs I'm sure we will at least hear something about a ps5 by the..

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StormLegend2820d ago (Edited 2820d ago )

The rock wall looks more detailed on the PS4 Pro. Lara has more blood on the PC version.

starrman19852820d ago

If you mean the one in the distance, that's just the depth of field setting, it's probably toned down for the Pro - which to be honest I don't know why as it it uses up very little resources!

Maxor2819d ago

Because it's the PC that image will have more blood/details regardless of what resolution it is. There will be more blood even it's in 1080p or even 900p. The 4K comparison here is pointless. The PC uses superior lighting and shaders to achieve a better image quality that the PS4 simply do not have the horse power to push.

The point this shit site was trying to make is the comparison between upscaled and native 4K. A task they failed miserably at.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

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ApocalypseShadow5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21834h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan1h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga1h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

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The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

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@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

Abnor_Mal4h ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto3h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda3h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

Marvellepus2h ago

lol Tacoboto is right, this dude still talking about Orchard.

Dude hasn’t been on N4G for over a year and is still living in your head rent free

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repsahj3h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

sagapo3h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

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smashman988h ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk6h ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer

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PlayStation VR2 Official PC Adapter by Sony Is Being Certified

An official PlayStation VR2 adapter for PC made by Sony is being certified. It won't be long before the VR headset is officially compatible.

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Profchaos20h ago

one step closer to unlocking the headsets full power.

I'm extremely underwhelmed with how Sony has treated it's psvr2 customers seriously Nintendo treated it's Wii U owners of which the sales were probably equal in the headsets 2bd year v the consoles far better.

This is the least they could do

ravens5217h ago

I agree. I'm a day 1 consumer too. 😢 For my day 1 Vita. I do not like when Sony does that crap.

DarXyde1h ago

I still don't have PSVR2, but this was always my concern. I almost pulled the trigger for RE4, but I waited it out to see what changed. As it happens, not much.

I love my Vita. Great piece of hardware. It didn't shine the way we know it could have, but it'll still got amazing titles.

PC support is very much a step in the right direction. Even if some PC only titles can make use of the headset, it does increase PSVR adoption: it's a great piece of hardware and it's also the best in its price bracket, so I see a way forward for uptake. Who knows? Maybe that'll allow VR devs to feel more comfortable releasing on PS5.

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BlackOni16h ago

Agreed, but to your point, those dollars went a lot further back then than they do now. This should have been a consideration from the beginning.

Imagine buying a monitor or tv that could only work with one device. That's basically what this equates to, so they left a LOT of money on the table by not making it PC compatible from the getgo. But to Sony's credit, even they were unaware of how popular their games would be once released on PC.

poppatron2h ago

No credit to Sony on this one I’m afraid, first party and generally Sony support for psvr2 really hasn’t been great

Babadook713h ago

I doubt there will be foveated rendering implemented on PC. PSVR2 is already a better experience than PCVR. PS5 Pro will unlock the full power.

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Neonridr18h ago

so now Sony is going to sell me an adapter I have to buy so I can use the headset on my PC? Gee, how generous of you :P

While it's great that I will be able to use this headset instead of my Index or Q3 for PC only VR titles, it's still a sad realization that Sony is sorta waiving the white flag here. Here's hoping they at least make some of their PSVR2 exclusive content available on PC as well now.

ocelot0718h ago

I don't see it as waving the white flag. PSVR the first one even though modders did get it working on pc it was a awful experience.

PSVR2 one of the best VR headsets available. Requires just one usb c cable. Even though I truly believe exclusives are what sell consoles. When it comes to VR it's very nich among gamers. I'm ecstatic that soon I can imo use the best VR headset on both ps5 and pc. No need for a pc vr headset. I have said it since PSVR2 was announced that I hope they make it pc compatible. With it being a very expensive headset and pc vr being more popular it just makes sense for Sony to do this.

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Neonridr16h ago

as opposed to a Quest 3 that requires no cables, or a single cable if you want to pair it with your PC right? ;)

While the tech is better in the PSVR2 for the most part (I own an Index, Q3 and PSVR2), I'm still let down by certain things. Headset rumble is a novelty. Eye tracking has only been used well on a couple of titles.

to each their own I guess, but to me this doesn't give me confidence that Sony is fully investing in their own hardware, more like they are stepping back to allow others to fill in the gaps.

ocelot0713h ago

@Neonridr not owned a quest 3. Did own a quest 1 and 2 both where fairly good. Have used a quest 3 for a limited time and thought it was fine. But comfort wise not as nice as psvr2.

Tried using quest 2 via wireless streaming to my pc and it was so bad I much rather using a single cable and have a solid connection than streaming the game from pc to headset.

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ocelot0718h ago

It's most likely just going to be a usb c to usb 3 adapter. Even for modern era a lot of new cases and motherboards don't have a usb c ports.

The budget but still fairly fairly high end pc I recently helped my friend build. He went with a b550 motherboard. Didn't have a usb c port or a on board socket to connect a pc case with a front panel usb c. Had to get a cheap pcie usb c.

1nsomniac14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

They developed the headset/attached usb c cable so that it wasn’t possible to run through any port other than a designated ps5 port. The adapter allows all the data to be passed correctly to a none designated ps5 port.

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