Molyneux: Fable II Is A "9 Out of 10"

Peter Molyneux recently remarked in Xbox World 360 that he was super-pleased with how Fable II has turned out, saying:

"I'd rate it a 9 out of 10… It's the best, most complete game I've ever worked on."

[P4KY B]

Populous II on XBLA.

that would be a multiplayer hit for sure

[MK_Red]

I think EA holds the rights to that since they were the ones that ate Bullfrog (And destroyed it).

[Montrealien]

Ea Ate Bullfrog, as in Peter cashed in and bailed out right?

Populous 2 in any download form would be great though.

[mikeslemonade]

This is proof that Microsoft rushed Moleneux to make Fable 2 come out this year. From the short single playe main story and him saying it's only 9 out 10.

[Ice2ms]

people there should be no 10/10 games.(Ok MGS 4 is perfection incarnate) But GTA -No way ! Did halo 3 get 10s I cant remember but if it did it deserves high 8s or 9s. Seriously Im looking forward to fable 2 but if Molyneux goes off and says its perfect and in a reviewers OPINION it isnt then he will look bad ... like Dyack (And soon to be Brian Bright but thats another days story)

[MK_Red]

Montrealien, that's one way to look at it but in the end, Bullfrog is no more...

[Horny]

i miss bullfrog, some of my favorite franchises Dungeon Keeper and Populous are gone

[Uncommon Calibur]

MGS4 is not perfection incarnate, fanboy...

get over yourself and play another game.

[BUKKAKALYPSE]

THANK YOU! I bought it over the weekend and unless you're the ultimate Snake fanboy it isn't very good..graphics are awesome but thats about it..i mean im about 2 hours into it and i've played MAYBE 10 mins of actual game..Fvck MGS4!

[keanerie]

sounds pretty accurate to me

[Fishy Fingers]

While I hope Molyneux is right and Fable 2 is everything we want it to be, but I'm not sure how you can claim it's an accurate score when you haven't played the game.

[keanerie]

welp

[Idonthatejustcreate]

Yeah I think this game will be rated around 9 and maybe some 10s but imo they should have made the game more like an open world and less running in a narrow path :P

In every trailer of Fable 2 you see two people running in a trail of golden dust untill monsters comes up and they fight them for 5 minutes before they start runing along the golden trail again. Maybe it's just that they have filmed all trailers at the same place but if the game is like that all the time I won't bother hyping it to my friends.

[nirwanda]

It's completely open world you can go wherever you want the golden breadcrumb trail always leads to the main quest path because there is no map, you can swim across lakes climb over any fences and there are no invisible walls or barriers to stop you going anywhere and there are hidden sidequests all over the place.

[Pika-pie]

Really looking forward to this one have high expectations for it... I DLd Fable1 from XBLA to psyche myself up for release :)

[FreestyleBarnacle]

That's what Spielberg said about War of the Worlds.

[dro]

:/

talk about being iggnorant!!!!

:/

[Spydiggity]

did you actually spell ignorant wrong while saying someone else is ignorant?

[Antan]

Well he`s not going to say its garbage now is he?!

[Omega4]

Well no one is going to say they just created a pile of sh*t are they, in fact by not giving it a 10 means he's believes something is wrong with it.

But im pretty sure this game will get plenty of 9s and 10s when it release just for the fact that its the first RPG to have online co-op

[Tobias123]

I think the game is going to get a bunch of 9's and 10's because of the gameplay in general, not just because of co-op. This game looks really good.

[GametimeUK]

WoW is an RPG in which you can group for quests
And Final Fantasy 9 allowed 2 players (maybe 4) to play the battle sequences

[bohemian 23]

Maybe he doesn't want to sound like an Ahole who's full of himself. It's not like 9 is a bad score.

[keanerie]

Obviously he's not going to come out and say "this is a 7 out of 10 game" but it's still kinda interesting that he didn't say 10/10 like I dunno, Dyack, would have.

[MorganX]

Best it can do in my book is 8/10. A next-gen game without last-gen graphics has to lose 2 points off the top. And I haven't seen next-gen graphics any anything shown for Fable II yet. Gameplay is most important, but so are graphics. The better they are, the easier it is to become immersed in the game. This is especilly important for RPGs in my opinion.

[kevanio09]

I am still waiting for a game that will beat oblivion's graphics. The world is huge, replaying it again, walking everywhere i realised just how big it actually is. And how good looking, watch a sunset from a hill opposite the imperial city. Go to the shivering isles at night and watch the aurora. However the animation sucked.

Edit: Replace game with console rpg ^_^ cant play on my laptop especially with the 8600m gt....it would explode. Wish Dell would admit their mistake and fix it.

[Boldy]

OK there are going to be quite a few people that won't read the article and will quickly take this out of context:

"'I'd rate it a 9 out of 10," Molyneux added, when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision with Fable II."

Meaning that he's rating it on how close it came to his vision of what he wanted Fable II to be, not what score the critics will give it.

[Superfragilistic]

Yeah I'm liking this new version of Peter. Still as enthusiastic and creative as ever but much more humble and realistic than before.

And thanks for putting the dodgy headline into context. As coolfool pointed out below he appears to share the perfectionism of Kojima. That no matter how good we may think their games are, they'll always feel they can do better. Which is great because that line of thinking has brought me MGS4 & Fable 2 in the one year! Lets hope they keep thinking like that and keep the games coming! :D

Bubbles for you and coolfool. ;)

[power of Green]

LOL you try to speak logic but they came in here to bash.

[InMyOpinion]

The first quote echoes Dyack...

The following quotes are better, he should have stuck to those.

"It's the best, most complete game I've ever worked on. The look is perfect, the interface is fantastic. It's a role-playing game, but where are all the f***ing icons? Aren't you supposed to be cluttering the screen up with mini-maps and the like? Not us.

"RPGs are one of the most complex game types there are," added Molyneux. "But for me, the idea of being who I want to be and my character being different to yours, well, I think is one of the coolest genres of game."

It would have been even better if he had just said "I'll let the game speak for itself", but I guess that's too much to ask for from pompous producers.

[Shane Kim]

Well actually Jenzo, even though it's not very professional to say I think he can be worth it. Fable 2 really looks good.

[Dyingduck]

ROFL ==> this is looking more more like Too Flop's Dyack

[KBDuB]

When was the last time a dev had said "I'll Let the game speak for itself!" eh?

I can't think of any.. I don't believe Hideo Kojima said anything similar either, eh?

Most devs will do what Molyneux just did..

[Shane Kim]

kBduB. I remember Kojima rated MGS4, 1/10 or something like that.

[PopEmUp]

you missing a "0" so it should look like this 10/10

[PirateThom]

I'd give you 10/10 Peter. :)

[Irving]

Not everyone is Kojima who would come out and say "I'm disappointed by my game, I could've done better".
I hope he's right though.

[keanerie]

Well, that's the nature of Japanese culture

[coolfool]

From the article
"I'd rate it a 9 out of 10," Molyneux added, when asked if he'd fulfilled his original vision"

This is very similar to Kojima to me. Sounds to me like Molyneaux is saying that he is very pleased with the results but, like Kojima, it isn't exactly everything he envisioned it would be.

[dkgshiz]

Pretty stupid.

[IzKyD1331]

dennis dyack does

[bouncybullet]

Kojima and every other developer does.

If they didn't, we would end up with more games like Resistance.

[IzKyD1331]

@bouncy bullet

more games like resistance would be a good thing

[shutupandplay]

oh. you mean like halo?

[KBDuB]

Pretty much every developer.. Kojima did it as well.

[Rockstar]

Is likely in this games future.

I'd say he's pretty accurate.

[cheese]

Yeah, because you would know so much about the game's quality. With playing it and all... -__-

[Rockstar]

Judging by the first my guess is it won't be far off.
The original was good was it not?
This game has many fans out there.
You're right though, I don't know, it's a guess and that's why I used the word likely. I have however seen the odd preview and it looks good.

Sticking with my prediction of 9's and 10's.

[cheese]

As someone who has played it, I wouldn't even be so cavalier as to predict a score. It's like watching the first 10 minutes of a movie, then claiming that it as one of the best of the year. It could crash and burn, or it could get even better. Who the hell knows? I certainly don't, and neither do you.

[Rockstar]

I don't care one way or the other since I'm sans 360.

It's just a guess, nothing more.

[Old Snake]

I won't get my hopes up, this guy hardly ever delivers on his promises

[bouncybullet]

He's publicly apologized for the 'promises' that didn't make it into fable 1.

I'm sure he has learned his lesson.

[OOG]

I say he wouldnt say 10 out of 10 because you would only believe that if you thought you couldnt do anything else to the game.....which this guy probably doesnt think....he prob still has many ideas he wanted to put into the games he has made....there isnt many developers who will say they are totally satisfied with the game they have released....usually most of them would keep working on it forever if they didnt have to make money.....but ya know....

[PimpHandStrong]

buy

not my sort of game but hey

2each his own right

[whatis]

I'm very interested in it now. What I've seen so far looks very nice.

[vloeistof]

might buy it so i can kick chickens :D

[Perjoss]

The first Fable was great, a game where you could give yourself the title "arse face" and characters in the game would actually call you that and laugh as you walked past them.

[princejb134]

even though i dont like fable, this game most likely will get 8s and 9s
10s no way, what does he think this game is gta4

[doshey]

for the record gta wasnt even a ten really

[bamyrick226]

the maker is giving it a 9, all that means is itll be getting 7's and 8's when it comes out. looks boring. the last one sucked donkey balls

[chrisnick]

IT BETTER EFFIN BE!!!

[Mike134nl]

So Guess that the game will be at least better than the first Fable, sounds like a must buy to me

[bouncybullet]

Better than the first Fable..?

have you watched any videos or read anything about this game..?

it's going to make make fable 1 look like a Huge piece of sh*t.

[MK_Red]

Hmmm... if thats indeed true then Fallout 3 may have some serious competition. I'm still voting for Fallout but Molyneux is simply a genius and his classics from Bullfrog are proof. Hope he can finally achieve Bullfrog greatness.

[keanerie]

let the great rpg battle of 09 commence

[Perjoss]

Fallout and Fable are quite different, Fable being very comical in almost every way, from the actions you make and quests you decide to take on. Not sure sure if this will be in the sequel but in the first game you could 'boast' that you would complete a side quest without taking any damage or with no armor on (was quite funny fighting stuff in union jack boxers) and if you succeeded you'd get more xp or money for it.

[MK_Red]

Big battle of RPG indeed.

As for two games, I know they are rather different. My point was about quality. Which one can be a better experience. They may be different but they are both good games. Which on is better in the end?

[Jamaicangmr]

Now Petter come on now remember what happened the last time you opened your mouth about Fable 1? Yeah you've been doing a good job of keeping your mouth shut and not kill your own game by hyping beyond what you can deliver.

So don't make an ass of yourself claiming it's a 9 why not a 10 while your at it?

[FantasyStar]

That's almost as credible as Dyack saying Too Human is a great game. I'll let the product speak for itself.

[heyheyhey]

that sounds about right yeah... Fable 2 is the only really intriguing 360 game left.... can't wait for it's superior PC release

oh yeah and never review your own game... rookie mistake... especially considering it's Molyneux

[GameOn]

except he didn't review his own game.

9/10 is how he thinks he did at fulfilling all his original ideas for Fable 2.

Who's the rookie now?

[heyheyhey]

it's still Molyneux

if your going to predict the score of your own game (if it's supposed to be good mind you), then at least say 10

if the AMBITIOUS DEVELOPER!! says the game is only a 9, then that's not really good PR is it?

rookie count has been revised, it now includes Monlyneux AND GameOn

[KBDuB]

You're an idiot! Lol.

So, I suppose Kojima is a rookie also, eh?

"if the AMBITIOUS DEVELOPER!! says the game is only a 9, then that's not really good PR is it?" Who the hell would say that it is a 10? Lol. Most people would assume he's lying, just to increase sales.. So, making your product sound perfect is not good PR.

"rookie count has been revised, it now includes Monlyneux AND GameOn"
rookie count has been revised, it now includes.. just Heyheyhey.

[Vicophine]

I'm not a big Fable fan (the first one SUCKED) but I have to give props to a developer who doesn't say his game is the second coming. Nice to hear it Peter, I hope your game does well for your sake :D

-Essentially, thank you for not saying your game is perfect (10/10).-

[bouncybullet]

No way was Fable even close to a hardcore RPG experience.
But I don't think that it was even made for the hardcore.

The truth is that it was a beginner's RPG.
A hack & slash RPG.
It was my first RPG. (Along with KotOR and then Jade Empire).
Most RPGs like Final Fantasy were Turn-based.
Which kept me away from RPGs at first.

But Fable was a good original title.
I played it again recently and I'd give it a 7. (vs. Current gen games)

Fable 2 will probably be one of the best sequels ever.
It will definitely be a sequel that kicks the crap out of the first.

[Strife Lives]

Until Mass Effect 2 :)

[Perjoss]

dont get me started on ME2, I'm on my 3rd mass effect play through now.

[Surfman]

the creator rates his own game a 9 out of 10? yeah right lol
smell like another flop for the xbox. But hey, you guys are used to it. So many flops now a day.

[sak500]

Yes just like you claiming every highschool exam you'll be getting an A or A+ and we all know after getting Ds all your life you dropped out of school.

[PimpHandStrong]

yea and when it gets a 7.5/10 in Gameinformer ppl will cry

[AIi_The_Brit]

I Hope so, i really do

but somehow i doubt it can break a 80% average

[zozol]

in da Dreamland :D

[DarkSniper]

Peter Molyneux is part of the Microsoft problem. Spreading false lies and propaganda. Misleading consumers about the quality of their product does nothing but lose the faith and trust of the customer. Which is why millions have migrated away from Xbox 360 onto a far more superior platform in PLAYSTATION®3.

Fable on the original Xbox was a joke in itself. Looking at Fable II, Dark Sniper has no optimism towards this game as it looks to be just as bad or even worse than the original. Every game on XBox 360 this year has been released to abysmal to mediocre reviews.

Dark Sniper only aligns himself with high quality consoles, therefore he will pass on Fable II released exclusively for MediocreBox 360.

$niper

[Deadman64]

And your part of a loser problem.

Get out, Get a Life, hell...why don't you even try to get laid?

[bouncybullet]

change your avatar!

you're making shenmue fans look like Sh*t F**ks.

and the six axis isn't compatible with your assh*le.

[pwnsause]

"change your avatar!

you're making shenmue fans look like Sh*t F**ks.

and the six axis isn't compatible with your assh*le."

what happened to Alan WAit for you to say disgusting stuff like this? are you still waiting for Alan Wait?

[sak500]

I bet you can't even snipe a kid coming at you from 200 yards and kicking you in your face.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

even I have to admit that you're truly annoying.

please get out more as has been stated.

seriously

[divideby0]

good to see Peter M. finally realized to keep his mouth shut and just be more down to earth about Fable...looks like the game is gonna score just as he says
He (was) and Cliffy B (still is) the most annoying game developers .

[Sena Kobayashi]

since its not from sony I think this will be a flop and it will get bad reviews.Fable 1 received good reviews and people really enjoyed the game so i can clearly see the 2nd title getting the same notes.like a sixth sense I can already see the future haters comments comming , I'll dodge them with my MAX SPEED !

[Sena Kobayashi]

The first one got reviews around 9-10 so why cant the 2nd get the same ? maybe it wont because its not on playstation 3 is that what your all thinking ?. fanboys are worthless.

[zypher]

i certainly hope it's at least 9/10. i've been waiting on Fable 2 since the conclusion of the first game (and subsequently Lost Chapters).

[dukadork]

this has huge potential: wouldn't it be great if game developers reviewed their own games?

"I've taken a real hard look at my work: I'm afraid I'm a genius and my game deserves a 9"

[Tiberium]

The game makers are their own biggest critics so this probably is 9.5 or even 10. Anyway we all can agree this game is going to be better than the original fable.

[O-Mardil]

he only says this so that he doesnt get pwned when the game scores less.

[Tiberium]

theres a lot of potential in this game the original was getting plenty of 9.5s and 9.6s. and everything says that this game is going to do better than the original fable did.

[IzKyD1331]

I liked the original fable (but I just thought the first was too hyped up and was a bit disappointed)

[plain rice]

Coming from the maker himself? Don't be surprise if the deserving score is around 7 or 8 or maybe even less. He knows something is wrong with his game.

[LuigiLogik]

If i had not listened to any of the Hype for Fable 1 (and there wasn't a loading screen every two minutes) it probably would have been my favourite RPG of last gen (KOTOR takes that) unfortunately i have been paying attention to the Hype on Fable 2 and it better have everything he said is gonna be in there.

[plain rice]

He just admitted something wrong with his game. Expect failure again you Xbots. LOL

[cmrbe]

well know game designers rate their games. Kojima rated MGS4 a 4 out of 10 and look what IGN and Gamespot said about it.

[pshizle]

9/10 is how he thinks he did at fulfilling all his original ideas for Fable 2.

[Droid]

ohhh, noooo, peter..... noooo, dont start this again.

but i hope you're right.

[8BitSoul]

9 out of 10 seems accurate, but he's a little too confident

[rawd]

Pre damage control

[Raoh]

hmmmmm

should we ask dennis dyack what his official score on too human is?

then lets follow it up with a quick answer of what cliffyb thinks gears of war 1 and 2 deserve

who needs reviewers?

[Tmac]

Whatever you say Pete.

[redsnake]

this i good news however usual people think there own creations are perfect and by saying 9 already could be a bad thing. hopefully itll be great and i can have something new on the 360 till resistance 2 and gears 2 come out ill be playing those.

[karlostomy]

will it ever end?

//end sarcasm

[RAM MAGNUMS]

xbots are weak. I could crush you at anytime. Reminds me of laughing octopus except the the xbox 360 is no beauty or beast.
The xbox360 is a ps2 with a lawnmower engine & cheap computer parts glued together & snapped a plastic box.
Luckily, it has voice chat messaging & cross game invites right?

[Mr Marbles]

when the interviewer asked him what would he rate his game on a scale of 10 what should he have said? Geez you guys are slow sometimes.

[KBDuB]

Wow. I love all this talk about how stupid Molyneux is for saying it's a 9/10. Where was all this talk when MGS4 was released and Kojima was spilling his guts about how great his game was?

[klarax]

Peter Molyneux is a fool. He gave the first Fable the same score, and we all know that turned out to be a 7 at best.

[Blackcanary]

This will be the RPG that makes me buy all the things i need to go online with the 360 I want this game loved the first Thoe i didn't finish it because my friend let me bowrow his one so i'm gonna rebuy and finish it cause i still have the save file on the Hard drive of my XBOX.

[DoctorXpro]

10/10 noting more to say

[Killjoy3000]

I'll hold him to that boast. Hopefully his game delivers.

[Killjoy3000]

Sooooo...Basically this guy's 9/10 is a piece of sh!t compared to Kojima's 1/10? Ok, got it.

[VMAN_01]

He says that as if there is something wrong with the game why not 10/10?

[TheMurderer]

Think about it. Molyneux is always looking for perfection and certain outstanding qualities in his games (even if he falls short). He even said Fable didn't come CLOSE to his expectations, but this one is much much closer to his perfect game.
I'm pretty sure Molyneux's perfect 10/10 game extends the size of your penis, removes blemishes, and adds your phone number to Scarlet Johansons's contacts list.