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Programmer jailbreaks PS4 to play Steam games

MWEB GameZone writes: "Could we be seeing Steam run independently on the PS4 or the Xbox One in the near future?"

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HanCilliers3319d ago

Me thinks not gonna happen. Cross-play is one thing, but Steam on console? That'll be the day

Yui_Suzumiya3318d ago

Would be awesome though! Can you imagine Steam on the next PS/Xbox?! Now that'd be an effing megaton!!

InTheZoneAC3318d ago

at that point there would be no need for xbox...

BossBattle3318d ago

@Inthezoneac there's no need for any console if we're talking about steam here. Especially once someone gets emulators for Xbox and Playstation games on pc.

kaizokuspy3318d ago

@boss battle

How expensive would the pc setup be, to run and emulate ps4 exclusives though?

GrimmyReaper3318d ago

@kaizokuspy
Given that the PS4 uses familiar hardware and x86 structure, me thinks. Not very expensive.
Heck, people are already getting close to emulate PS4 games, while the PS3 emulator is still wonky

Eonjay3318d ago

Um, isn't Microsoft's big reveal related to Steam on Xbox.

rainslacker3318d ago

It would seem you would either need Windows to make this work, or be restricted to SteamOS/Linux offerings. Obviously Xbox would have an advantage on the Windows front, but if it's hacked, it's unlikely to be allowed for very long.

I doubt official support would happen, because there's not much reason for Sony or MS to lose revenue from unlicensed software which they have no control over, which in itself offers up a multitude of security risks for their own closed systems.

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joab7773318d ago

Only if there is money in it. If Sony could get a cut on games they don't offer themselves...maybe.

neoandrew3318d ago

Exactly, this is the reason EA Access was denied by sony on ps4.

donthate3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

Unless the games are pirated, retail disc based game sales still profit Sony. Every disc sold gets a cut to Sony.

@neoandrew:

"Exactly, this is the reason EA Access was denied by sony on ps4."

Which also shows how generous MS is at the moment allowing it on Xbox platform.

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kevnb3318d ago

It's already been done, although I'm sure they aren't getting the full potential of the ps4.

AndrewLB3318d ago

These consoles are PCs bro. Same hardware architecture and everything. If they could get linux running on the PS3, this will be much easier to do. Steam OS is based on Debian linux PS4's os is based off FreeBSD. all of those run on pc hardware.

Dragonking0073318d ago

Well you never know these days sony already let one of there biggest feature on to pc which is remoteplay.

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PSN_ZeroOnyx3318d ago

The next GeoHotz. Sony will take it to court, get his program and update a patch to block it.

ILostMyMind3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

It is alread locked now .

Imalwaysright3318d ago

Last time I heard, it wasn't illegal to jailbreak your devices.

ziggurcat3318d ago

The legislation, unless it has changed, only applies to cellphones. You can't jailbreak a console, legally, as far as I know.

PSN_ZeroOnyx3318d ago

An Australian jailbroke the PS3 and a court injunction prevented distribution, but allowed Sony a copy to patch the system. GeoHotz also jailbroke the PS3 and lost in court in Georgia. Again Sony received the software to patch the system and though the courts waved jail time he had restitution to pay any cannot own Sony products.

rainslacker3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

It was actually ruled that the cons outweigh the consumer rights when it came to consoles. Was around the last few years of last gen. I don't think it was a case set into precedent, but was a ruling by a judge. Sony had some thing against some university I believe, but I'd have to go look it up.

IIRC, the ruling didn't make jailbreaking illegal, it did make it so the console makers could exercise their rights to "shut off" the console, basically making it unusable outside of the jailbreak.

Edit: Damn, should have read all the replies. Looks like you found something as well. This is seperate from the thing I was talking about though. I'll see if I can find a link when I feel like it, but likely will forget about this by tomorrow.:(

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lfc_4eva3318d ago

You can never stop determined guys wanting to prove their skills against the big boys.

Rookie_Monster3318d ago

Sounds cool but I wouldn't want to chance it and brick my PS4 as I need it still for all the great games still coming and PSVR.

jb2273318d ago

You won't have to worry about bricking, my inside sources say that Sony themselves are releasing an official version! This will be great because PS4 owners can use it as a workaround to play games only on PC & Xbox like Rise of the Tomb Raider & Cuphead! This can totally happen!

Outside_ofthe_Box3318d ago

'my inside sources'

lol, you expect people to believe you?

ziggurcat3318d ago

Why? What benefit is it to play steam games on console when they run exponentially better on PC?

UnHoly_One3318d ago

Because some people don't have a PC that can exceed the PS4's capabilities?

That seems like a pretty obvious answer to your question, so I'm guessing your "question" was just to troll and not a legitimate inquiry.

ziggurcat3318d ago

... And playing the games on equivalent HW accomplishes what, exactly? I don't see how questioning the usefulness of running steam on console constitutes trolling.

Spyroo3318d ago

"Because some people don't have a PC that can exceed the PS4's capabilities?"

LOL!

ILostMyMind3318d ago

I think most of people don't have that PC.

gangsta_red3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

Convenience maybe, or like Unholy One said maybe that person doesn't have a PC that can run these games and having it on PS4 is a possible solution to this.

So you don't see how questioning the usefulness of something is trolling and yet you feel someone asking what they think of game is right?

http://n4g.com/news/1909141...

Rookie_Monster3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

Lol, nice find Gansta. Some people just like to be hyprocrite, I guess. And agreed with UnHoly_One that for many folks that don't have a PC rig to run some of the more demanding Steam games, a PS4 might be a great alternative for them as It can kill 2 birds with one stone analogy.

gangsta_red3318d ago

@Rookie

I know right, that's like asking why do I need Netflix on my smartphone when I have a 60' flat screen at home.

I personally don't game much on my PC but I wouldn't mind having access to Steam through my consoles. I mean it could only mean more games right?

ziggurcat3318d ago

"Convenience maybe, or like Unholy One said maybe that person doesn't have a PC that can run these games and having it on PS4 is a possible solution to this."

That's a fair enough answer.

"So you don't see how questioning the usefulness of something is trolling and yet you feel someone asking what they think of game is right?"

The difference, gangsta, is I'm just asking a question, I'm not attacking or childishly insulting anyone who might find it useful.

gangsta_red3318d ago

Oh, so for you it's just asking a question right? Like how I asked a question and got a childish response from you and your brothers.

"I'm not attacking or childishly insulting anyone who might find it useful."

I think you know more about being childish and insulting more than anyone here right Ziggurcat?

http://n4g.com/news/1908707...

Rookie_Monster3318d ago (Edited 3318d ago )

Dang, caught him off guard 2x! you have earned a detective badge from me. Great work.

Edit: dang Ziggercat sounded mad and try to act innocent in self defense. That is a sign that a man is guilty.

ziggurcat3318d ago

If you can point out anywhere in the questions I've asked where I've personally attacked anyone who thought this was a useful/beneficial function to add to their console, please be my guest. My question was how was the function useful, not why does x person think it's useful (or how can x person be so foolish in thinking it's useful).

The context of your question was insulting. How so? Because you immediately followed up with how something somewhere stated that the game looked bad (even though you provided no evidence to support your claim), so you were clearly asking the question in bewilderment, and mocking him for stating that he thought the game looked "sweet." Someone can think something looks good even if it's based on a single photograph - and there are a lot of concept design photos in the article as well (which, evidently, you didn't click).

My response was based on your belligerent, insulting attitude towards the person just because they had added a reference to the game being a PS4 exclusive. And you do it all the time when it's related to Sony/PS4. Never when it's related to anything Xbox - you're often seen vehemently defending people in that case rather than utilizing the same critical eye you have with PlayStation.

Gol3m3318d ago

It's getting really scary that these multi account n4g users reply to their own posts.

kingdom183318d ago

Maybe he just wanted to see if it could be done?

rainslacker3318d ago

There's a "hey neat, look what I can do" factor involved. Sounds rather troublesome to me considering you'd need a highly unoptimized for the PS4 OS to manage it, which would just get in the way of the benefits of console, but not all games would require more than the PS4 offers.

I suppose it could be convenient as well.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer19h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster300019h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer18h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger17h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster300017h ago(Edited 17h ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole12h ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto18h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing6918h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif17h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing6916h ago(Edited 16h ago)

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif16h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot17h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast17h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts17h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto16h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos14h ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo5h ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner2h ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18811h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Are you and Anast the same person?

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

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dveio17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted15h ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast17h ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay17h ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted15h ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl348514h ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK15h ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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