Wii U Exclusive Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Got a Change of Clothes to Hide the Heroine's Cleavage

In the latest Nintendo Direct, Bill Trinen from Nintendo Treehouse and Satoru Shibata from Nintendo Europe (depending on which version you watched) talked about Atlus’ Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (formerly Genei Ibun Roku #FE) mentioned that “the game is based in Japan, so we’re keeping its original voice over track.”

Unfortunately, there is something that isn’t being kept like the original, and that’s the clothes of the characters.

[KimikoGaming]

I see a lot of criticisms over clothing censorship. Yeah, it is a stupid change but overall I am not going to boycott a game due to clothing censorship. But if censorship changes the content of a game (such as Fire Emblem Fates' removal of the touching minigame, or Bravely Second's sidequest outcomes being removed), I get very agitated.

[Abriael]

I'll buy it too, because I'm a sucker and the Wii U is region locked. But censoring this kind of stuff (while leaving exactly the same stuff in other parts of the game) is ludicrous.

[PeaSFor]

i can see her naked wrists, thats an outrage!!

quick, lets put a burka on that abomination.

....seriously, this crazy censorship is getting out of control.

[gamer7804]

moved

[Stealth20k]

Who cares. A non issue. The game was winning awards in Japan. A games quality is not going to change because of one or two costume changes that most people would not even miss.

And considering this was the original devs who changed it, not even the localization team, it is not even really censorship. They just wanted to change it.

[Abriael]

You mean it won the "Debut with 23k copies on Christmas while the Wii U was selling like hotcakes" award?

According to your usual logic, if it sells all is ok, but this really did rather badly.

Of course, that logic is flawed to begin with, so...

Not surprised to see you spring to the defense of censorship as usual (as long as it's Nintendo doing it). Welcome back :D

[Stealth20k]

Won Dengeki's best RPG award. Since when do sales decide what the quality is? I never said it sold well. Fire Emblem sold well and was a review darling and early GOTY contender. This is different from the sales standpoint.

All publishers make changes to Japanese games. I just focus on what we are getting vs the very minor things we are not.

But, you know my stance. Not going round and round again.

[Abriael]

And it'll be interesting to know what one magazine giving it an award in the face of a very mild reaction from actual gamers has anything to do with whether censorship is ok.

[Stealth20k]

The game is going to sell much better in the West than it did in japan. That is for 100% certainty. Change a costume or two in the West is actually less than what usually happens. It just does not matter. There are real things happening in the gaming industry worth getting upset over. Not this.

[Abriael]

The fun thing is that we don't know the extent of the changes. If there's one, it's pretty safe to assume that there will be more.

Considering Treehouse is doing the localization, and the voices will remain in Japanese, I fully expect unprecedented levels of voice/subtitles dissonance.

[Philface]

@Abriael: What should they change in the subtitles compared to the vioces? That is rather a very unlikely assumption as the text in writen an spoken linguage does not show anything that must be taken out.

[gamer7804]

the problem isn't on WHAT is being censored, its that its being censored. If you wait until its something that you care about thats censored, it will be too late. One of the games they already cut an entire dialog section. Not sure if its by accident or not. In this case, let art, be art... imagine the art world today if we never got to see works by certain renowned artists because of censorship. A shame.

[Stealth20k]

This is not even censorship. These are normal localization changes that happen to 99.999% of JRPG localizations. A few costumes? Nah, still really looking forward to this game. Do not focus on one tree and ignore the forest.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

"the problem isn't on WHAT is being censored, its that its being censored."

Ignoring context when deciding what's right and wrong, is like saying a father is a murderer who deserves to go to jail, when he shoots his daughter's ex, who invades the father's home with a knife with the intent of harming said daughter.

Yes, it's a bit of censoring, but if you're going to give a fair criticism of it, then you NEED to take what's being censored, and to what extent it affects the rest of the game, into account.

The circumstances, the details, need to be taken into account when passing fair judgement in most issues, and that includes censorship.

Otherwise it's no better than throwing a blanket accusation across the whole thing, and that's a disservice to the game and its producers that ends up lowering sales over a very trivial part of the overall experience.

[gamer7804]

@wonderfulmonkeyman, @Stealth20k

of course always looking at it in context makes sense to a certain extent, it needs to remain legal obviously. It's also well with in nintendo's right as publisher to edit any dialogue, costumes, content of any kind. However that doesn't mean we have to agree to settle and not voice our opinions, which is what some of us our doing. If it doesn't bother you in this instance thats totally fine, i'm just saying be weary of what might come next.

[gamer7804]

Bravely sequel for 3ds got an entire class changed and threw out several quests that characters could die in. this is the slippery slope.

[MegaRay]

Again with 99% of games get censorship? Atlus dont censor Persona games. Bamco dont censor Tales or their licensed games. I can keep going, but first I wanna ask, how much is this 1% in your calculator?

Unlees that number is about Nintendo games, then I can see it being true

[Stealth20k]

Atlus has made changes in Persona 1-4. Shows how little you know.
In fact, they are famous for how they changed Persona 2. When Persona 3 and 4 were released on PS2 they changed dialogue.

Every tales game has been changed at least in one small aspect.

It is not censorship.

[MegaRay]

They change dialogue to be more natural, they dont censor words, clothes etc. There's a difference between changing dialogue while the meaning is still accurate, and censorning words etc.

Besides, you gave examples of ps2 Era games. I means P4 and its spinoffs since thats the only new Persona released.

[Stealth20k]

Atlus censors words, clothes and plenty of other things. All Publishers do for different regions. That is the way it goes.

You clearly do not know Atlus. The only reason why we got Persona 2 in america at all is because they changed things.

[Kalebninja]

I dont get this one, it wasnt anywhere near as bad as Lin in XCX and the alteration is so minor I dont see what the point was lol.

[Hoffmann]

wtf is wrong with nintendo usa? Is reggie a puritan?

[LOL_WUT]

They have that family friendly image to protect and they know damn well people won't question it. ;)

[jholden3249]

I get the whole censorship complaint thing, I do, but at the same time this is getting a little ridiculous.

Soon we'll have petitions and boycotts over a shirt changing colors.

[rainslacker]

Safer to change the color of a characters skin nowadays than their clothing.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Who cares, no one is even going to buy this game.

[Segata]

I am. So even if one person buys it. That's more than no one.

[rainslacker]

I am. I'm a sucker for these kinds of games, and this one is different than most.

Don't really care about the changes though, as I had a hard time even spotting them without the accompanying text in the article.

[contradictory]

well then, that's retarded..

[ZeekQuattro]

Another non issue that doesn't effect the final product. They changed some costumes in cut-scenes but the battle gear is just as revealing as it is in the original game. Odd choice of censoring but again not game-breaking nor is there a need for more random calls for a boycott because that worked so well on Fates and X. lol

[DivineAssault]

You forgot the bravely series.. Theres tons in there

[ZeekQuattro]

True. I forgot about that franchise. I couldn't get into it so thats probably why I forgot.

[DashArrivals]

GOOD, because a computer generated woman's cleavage hurts my eyes and gives me headaches. Looks like I can finally feel comfortable purchasing this game.

[DivineAssault]

censoring games is just stupid to begin with.. We have a rating system to prevent minors from seeing/playing anything they shouldnt.. Atari had games with worse content than this.. Its like society is trying to prevent people from looking at what they would naturally.. Who went to a beach and never looked over at a hot woman in a bikini? Its in our nature..

Censoring something you wear in the streets but not in the battle sequence? OK??? Anyway, i thought this game was going to be something totally different anyway but still, thats stupid.. I knew this would be full of censorship.. More will show up eventually//

Anyway, whats up with the name? Just the title throws me off

[Ogygian]

For all the people saying it doesn't matter, this is generally how censors and anti-freedom of speech activists get their own way.

If you're not vigilant on the small incursions, they will grow and grow until they start becoming more like Saudi Arabian censorship.

Feminism is causing this, and feminism is only going to keep getting more authoritarian from here onward, so we have to stop it by refusing to surrender an inch.

[Stealth20k]

Yeah, because one or two costumes in a game is the same as anit-Freedom.

You sound insane, like most of the people bitching over a games costume lol

[Ogygian]

You must be genuinely oblivious to what is truly going on.

If you don't complain about censorship, then you are supporting it.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

People who complain about censorship are the minority.

Especially when it comes to games on Nintendo system.

If I wanted to play a game that involve girls boobs or ass I play Senran Kagura 2 or Dead or Alive 5: Last Round.

Funny the people that are complaining were the one who didn't care about in the first place.

[LOL_WUT]

Censorship is censorship you can't spin that. Like others mentioned this is how it starts. All thanks to individuals who let it happen in the first place. ;)

[Stealth20k]

This is not censorship. These are localization decisions that have been happening in every JRPG since they started getting localized. Sensibilities between regions are not the same.

We saw that with Fire Emblem.

Nintendo changed a few things, a minority of people got upset but the larger group? Helped the game sell more than ever before.

The only reason this is a story is because it is easy to get hits for an article hating on Nintendo. That is the only reason.