Games Trump Console Sales this Black Friday

InfoScout:

"Given existing gaming consoles have been available on the shelf for over two years, it should be of no surprise that consoles took a back seat to game sales this Black Friday season. Once again, when consoles did sell retailers offered game+console bundle deals to lure consumers. The top console bundle pick this year was the Xbox One 500gb with Gears of War, which Target discounted to $299 (down from $350) and threw in a $60 gift card."

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Wait...didn't Infoscout just recently claim the PS4 Uncharted Bundle was the Black Friday retail winner of all consoles? Could have sworn I read that and now they say no it was Xbox One Gears of War?

[Kayant]

At Best buy. And it was about revenue.

"PS4 Uncharted bundle highest earning product at Best Buy"(From neogaf) - http://blog.infoscout.co/bl...

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ah got it... it was specific to the retailer. It makes sense but seems like they maybe could have just released one full report on all the sales instead of drip feeding the info like this...but then again, this is the way most sites handle news for online these days. Gotta get your viewers coming back day after day.

[Gazondaily]

Not a mad follower of this sales malarkey but the Xbox Gears bundle? I didn't expect that to be the one to come up top. Must have been a great value bundle.

[Rookie_Monster]

The Uncharted bundle was only the best seller at Best Buy overall, this is a complete look at the entire Black Friday sales from all the stores combined and the Gears XB1 came out on top. Well done MS!

As a matter of fact, at Best Buy, there are 8 XB1 bundles in the top 10 console chart compared to 1 PS4 and 1 Wii U bundle. So if you combined total console sold, MS might even had sold more overall consoles at Best Buy.

But anyhow, glad all consoles sold well this holiday as it is only good for the industry. Even Wii U managed to be the best selling console and top 3 items sold at target on Black Friday.

[butchertroll]

Nope! Just scroll down a little. You should find charts for consoles. PS4 won the BF according to infoscout. GeOW bundle was best at Target and Walmart!

"Update – 2015-11-30

Due to popular demand, we’ve augmented the post to include a breakdown by major gaming console.

At Target and Walmart, the Xbox One + Gears of War bundle barely outsold its rival PS4 + Uncharted Bundle. Yet, strong PS4 sales at Amazon.com and other retailers were enough to edge out the Xbox One for top sales this Black Friday season."

http://blog.infoscout.co/ga...

[r2oB]

Looks like some people spoke too soon trying to claim/insinuate the Xbox One "won" Black Friday, only to be proven incorrect (as per the article update), yet again. I think these articles do it on purpose; give a little hope, let them grasp to it and run with it, then watch as the rug gets pulled from under them.

Perhaps it's best to let the dust settle before jumping to conclusions over and over.

[Kayant]

@fuzzyinthepants

Yes I do. Sony give my PSVR, PS4, 1yr PS+ and a Sony 4K TV for this.

[Christopher]

Technically the title is wrong. They're separating bundles and just consoles. That's not how you do it. Adding those together, consoles outsold games.

[marloc_x]

Glad to see 1rst party titles in the charts😉

[pupa]

I am more concerned about other issues from the article like:

"" The top console bundle pick this year was the Xbox One 500gb with Gears of War, which Target discounted to $299 (down from $350) and threw in a $60 gift card.""

That means the XB0ne was sold for an effective $239 and it still only managed to just sell a few more than the PS4 at that retailer? Sad indeed.

[dolphin22]

Infoscout have updated the info 2015 - 11 - 30

Due to popular demand, we've augmented the post to include a breakdown by major console.

At Target and Walmart, the Xbox One + Gears Of War bundle barely outsold its rival PS4 + Uncharted Bundle. Yet strong PS4 sales at Amazon.com and other retailers were enough to edge out the Xbox One for top sales this Black Friday season.

Console Rank $ Share

PlayStation 4 42%

Xbox One 41%

Wii U 17%

In my opinion, taking the above information into account and then adding all the pre orders and sales for the Call Of Duty and Star Wars Battlefront bundles, as well as those customers who have jumped on the price cut, i predict that Sony may have outsold the competition for November's NPD.

[Christopher]

I don't care that they outsold, but if those numbers are true what I like is that there is extremely heavy competition between MS and Sony and I want that to continue throughout this generation and others to come. It's how we will keep them honest and more focused on trying to win us over rather than trying to expand their profit margins.

[gamertk421]

Don't forget that there were still quite a few Cyber Monday sales for XB1 bundles, but I didn't see many of the PS4 ones.

[IIFloodyII]

Poor Wii U. Seems all 3 at least did good though, PS4 and XB1 great. Wonder if people are still buy last gen systems.

[Ra3030]

@Christopher
I'm sorry to disagree but there is no competition between Sony and any other console maker this gen sure maybe in the United States Microsoft can keep it close but Sony is doing so well globally that I can't for the life of me understand why this type article keeps getting posted its not important on any level. Sure Microsoft may get 2 maybe 3 NPD a year but Sony's trump card is alway a Joker that says "well, you won NPD this month by 10k but we outsold you globally by 200k plus" and that's the advantage they have on a slow sales month. The PS4 will outsell the X1 by a couple million globally during the holidays. Whoever keeps putting this kinda stuff out should stop its not a sales war this has been over for a long time it's time give Sony there due and let's talk about other things in gaming. This topic only divides the community and nothing positive will ever come out of it.... IMO

[TheCommentator]

PS4 was at 42% by dollar share while XB1 was at 41%? Doesn't that mean that since the XB1 was discounted more, that they actually sold more consoles than Sony? Seems like a weird way to spin the console wars to make it seem like Sony sold better, when in fact they were just more profitable.

[butchertroll]

GeOW bundle was best at Target and Walmart, not overall. Just look at my post above or check the link. They updated the news.

[DLConspiracy]

Calm down.

[Flames76]

Just at best buy everywhere else the XOne outsold the PS4.The article was trying to make it that the PS4 was the big seller when in reality it was the XOne.

[djplonker]

@flames

Or you could read the article and realise the xbox only won in two stores and the ps4 was the winner by 1%...

Total sales: ps4 42% xbox 41% wii u 17%

Plus this is only npd.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@djplonker this actually is not NPD which has actual stores reporting their sales to them. This was a poll of Black Friday buyers who were taking pictures of their receipts. Sample size is very large but there is nothing else known about who or how they went about getting their sample. Likely this data will be close but it easily could be off by 10% in either direction.

[Kribwalker]

With a 1% difference between both consoles market share on Black Friday, based off of people taking pictures of their receipts (300,000) I'd say it's too close to call it either way. Seriously, how many parents are going to take a picture of a receipt and upload it to this site? Wait for npd before we can really say who won

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Exactly! Polling may provide you results that are close but they are and can't be 100% accurate as they simply are taking a sample and extrapolating the results. NPD will show the true retail tale but still won't tell us anything about digital/online from those that don't report that.

[XanderZane]

Well we'll wait until the NPD are announced to see who won for the month of Nov. Don't really know who won Black Friday, because they are only getting figures from a few retail stores and from random consumers. The figures are only 1% difference. NPD will include a lot more retail stores. Seems like it will be pretty close though, so we'll see.

[ITPython]

My goodness, so Target sold the XB1 for $50 less than MSRP, threw in a $60 game, AND gave people a $60 gift card? That's essentially getting an XB1 for $179 (getting closer to what it's actually worth).

Wow, it is insane how desperate M$ and retailers are to sell XB1's, it's one step away from them putting the consoles on the curb with a sign that says "FREE". Pretty sad they have to all but give the console away for it to have any kind of decent selling power.

[IamTylerDurden1]

It appears the xbone gears bundle barely edged the Uncharted PS4 bundle at only Walmart and Target, but overall the article states that PS4 was the winner due to strong Amazon and Best Buy sales.

Not that we should even care but PS4 WAS the overall winner...for what it's worth. I guess Tomb Raider was a waste of 100 million by ms, it hasn't had the desired effect on sales.

Extra Point: I think the true winner was gamers across the country that now have access to games like Witcher, Bloodborne, and Until Dawn.

[AizenSosuke]

Pretty much PS4 Uncharted was the highest selling bundle/console on black friday.

[Nyxus]

If you combine 'consoles' and 'console + game bundles' you get over 47%, making it the number one seller. And I'd say 'consoles + game bundles' count as console sales as well.

[YinYangGaming]

So the Xbox One Gears bundle was #1 then? Should get official numbers/statements soon so I'll wait for them

[Eonjay]

Its just estimates. But Aaron from Microsoft already made a comment on Twitter stating that both consoles (PS4+Xbox One) both sold well. We can only assume that this means that... in fact, they both sold well.

[YinYangGaming]

Yeah they've both sold tremendously well I bet but infoscout is based on a sample & not official, pointed that out in the PS4 infoscout article and received many disagrees for whatever reason

[Gazondaily]

Oh so the Xbox One bundle sold the most this Black Friday? Surprising

[Rookie_Monster]

Yup, really surprising as most thought with the first price drop of PS4, combined with marketing deals with COD and Battlefront bundles, it would dominate the competition but MS and Xbox managed to exceed expectation in light of the situation and kept up. Wii U also was surprising too with being the best selling console on Black Friday at Target. Very impressive to say the least.

[Kingthrash360]

You 2 need to finish article.
Just saying
But I'm glad to see consoles rolling strong and all the people saying that consoles were dying eating crow

[showtimefolks]

septic and rookie

read the complete article. since you don't want to here it is

Due to popular demand, we’ve augmented the post to include a breakdown by major gaming console.

At Target and Walmart, the Xbox One + Gears of War bundle barely outsold its rival PS4 + Uncharted Bundle. Yet, strong PS4 sales at Amazon.com and other retailers were enough to edge out the Xbox One for top sales this Black Friday season

[Wallstreet37]

lol ignorance and delusion is bliss. Not to mention as usual xbox had bundles not only at 299 but basically giving them away to try to win with a 60 dollar gift card. They offer you the kitchen sink just to try to win in one region yet fail lol

I know it hurts just be happy you enjoy your games bro, your stealth trolling is transparent. Not impressive at all given the xbox deals as usual lol

[lastking95]

Not a surprise to me, yes they had deals with cod and battlefront but we all know CoD and ea games have higher numbers on xbox rather it's sells number or at least attach rates. Marketing deals don't help much and a waste of money imo.(ofc it depends on the deal tho) but like I said before this is simply a small sample size although bigger than the last.

[killer_goat]

If you actually bothered to check the update it shows that ps4 was the top selling console.

[lastking95]

False it made the most money by 1% market share revenue.

[magiciandude]

Not surprising at all. Xbox One has Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider, All Gears of War games, Call of Duty BOIII, and Fallout 4 on one console. Best combination of games for this holiday.

[Bahamut]

Best is subjective.

PS4 has Uncharted, The Last of Us, BloodBorne, Call of Duty BOIII, The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc etc etc all on one console... Best combination of games for this holiday.

It all comes down to opinion, personally, I don't like Halo or Gears of War.

[magiciandude]

You're right. PS4 also has Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, The Order 1886, Driveclub, and Godzilla to add into the mix. So much variety it's unbelievable!

[Paytaa]

Jesus, makes it hurt knowing I paid $950 between my Xbox One and PS4 (+ TLOU:R) when I could've waited until either last years holiday season or this years and saved a ton of money.

If you're still on 360 and PS3, go treat yourself to an X1 or PS4...deals don't get any better than this.

[dmeador]

I mean, thats how things always work out. I go the X1 at launch knowing it would be much cheaper in a year or two. There are some killer deals on things going on, will be picking up a PS4 after it has a great backlog of games I can grab for cheap

[jmetalhead77812]

Couldn't agree more!! I'm an X1 owner and I'm loving every minute of it! There's some awesome deals for all three consoles, so no matter your preference take advantage of it...

OT: Funny, I keep hearing people downplay BC on X1, but I'm spending hours upon hours playing 360 games I never got a chance to try out. As much as I'm enjoying my gaming now, I think 2016 is going to be HUGE for X1 owners!!

[christocolus]

I keep seeing Minecraft and GTA in the list of best selling games .Both games have remained among the top selling titles for each month in almost every region..and its been this way the entire year. Damn. Congrats to Rockstar and Mojang.

[Rookie_Monster]

If MS is smart, they would have a dedicated team start development on Minecraft 2 and make it XB1 console exclusive. In fact, I am sure that is exactly what they are planning.

[UltraNova]

It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure that out dear Rookie...

IMH, they'd be making a mistake if they make M2 an MS exclusive considering the ludicrous amount of units that were, are and will be sold by this IP...

[Wallstreet37]

Yeah just bought minecraft for my son on ps3 for 20 bucks for christmas. Its long lasting appeal especially with kids is crazy. Good investment by Microsft as there is no way minecraft 2 wont sell like crazy.

[DivineAssault]

Must be U.S. numbers

[Sonyslave3]

Well let see hmmm Black FRIDAY IS A AMERICA THING SO of course it USA numbers. -___-

[G20WLY]

Black Friday sales happen outside of America too..

[Dark_matter]

Huh-huh

[DivineAssault]

So you think black friday only happens in the U.S.??? lol you need to travel more often.. Either way, the update shows that PS4 outsold them.. So however you choose to look at it, M$ didnt win..

[Italiano1234567]

Ps4 sold best overall on black Friday...woohooo

[lastking95]

I tried to tell people not to jumping the gun on console sells, now they have egg on their face. Both performed great leave it at that.

[Spotie]

How so? It lists the top console bundle, but not the top console, and has no concrete numbers to say what that gap might have been.

Plus, while black Friday is largely American, it's no longer ONLY that. And this doesn't take into account, I believe, any online orders.

[lastking95]

How so? Because
A.it was a small sample size, based off top bundle this one is too although bigger.
B.Xbox has more bundles out atm.
C.you shouldn't jump the gun period and be humble.

Lol Rookie just exposed you xD rofl, your done bro. Wow, I swear rookie is one my favorites on here, he can be a fanboy sometime but he keep it 100 Lol Served him like a turkey with a side yams lmao xD spotie, spotie, spotie dat 180 doe. 150k was big enough for you but this isn't?

[gamertk421]

The scale they showed was amongst millenials, but among Gen Xers, the Xbox won, and guess which generation has more disposable income...

[IIFloodyII]

@Chameleon77

It also says it in this article (only outsold it by a little though), just don't let the fanboys know, they'll just disagree spam you.

[showtimefolks]

stop it rookie just stop it

lastking95

i am sure you love rookie since he keeps it real only when it comes to anything positive about xbox

i hope some of you do realize that we can all check each other's comment history

[Spotie]

Don't encourage ignorance, lastking.

The main difference is that we had numbers for BOTH consoles there; here, all we have is which BUNDLE sold the most. There are no numbers here that refute the other article.

Kinda hard to expose someone with nothing.

[gangsta_red]

Waitaminute...you mean this article? Because this is the one Rookie grabbed your quote about.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

There are no sales numbers, they do not have them for both consoles and it only lists one retail chain. Also that article only states which bundle sold the most so how is this any different?

So unless you and Rookie are referring to two different instances I think both him and lastking have a point.

[maniacmayhem]

@Red

Something tells me you'll never get a response for such exposure. Once again Spotie is just defending Sony while trolling Xbox. Nothing new.

[Tsunade]

Very funny...

PS4 best selling console on Best Buy
Blind fanboy: Hey do not jump for conclusions, WAIT FOR OFFICIAL NUMBERS.

This article says xbox bundle sold best
Blind fanboy: This is it people, X1 won black friday, forget about official numbers and forget I told PS4 fans to wait for official numbers. Black friday is an AMERICAN ceremony from our ancestors, forget about the rest of the world.

lol

[lastking95]

Exactly that why I'm saying don't jump the gun still. Fanboys do that all the time one article state something and they go wild than another comes along saying something else making them look like fools. Doesn't matter who won both sold well leave it at that.

[Bronxs15]

nintendo and microsoft are the only ones with exclusives on the list.

[dreadz74]

This is still an estimate based on 300K receipts and it's neck and neck official numbers are needed.

[TheUndertaker85]

"Update – 2015-11-30

Due to popular demand, we’ve augmented the post to include a breakdown by major gaming console.

At Target and Walmart, the Xbox One + Gears of War bundle barely outsold its rival PS4 + Uncharted Bundle. Yet, strong PS4 sales at Amazon.com and other retailers were enough to edge out the Xbox One for top sales this Black Friday season."

Right there in the article.

[dreadz74]

it is a difference of 1% 41% xbox 42% PS4 the had 300K sample rate so a 1% lead is not final without official numbers. More than 300K console have been sold on BLK friday evrybody that bought a console did not use the app basically neck and neck official retail numbers are needed all Fanboys should be aware of this nobody can claim Victory yet dead heat people.

[joeorc]

With 180,000 collected this very same company last year said the Xbox one beat out Sony, so this year let's just wait for NPd right?

[dreadz74]

@joeorc last year MS in the sample rate had a commanding lead so margain of error did not matter so much. This year it's a difference of 1% so error margain is there as many more than sampled bought consoles and they did not even add MS store which only sells xbox's . Ya wait bro either side can claim victory if sony won they would say it on top of the mountains same with MS so it means its close real numbers are needed.

[sullynathan]

The game discounts and sales were better than the console discounts this time.

[LAWSON72]

No, $50 off with loads of freebies thrown in is much better than $20 off a game. If anything the case would be alot of people who really wanted a next gen system have one after 2 years

[Bytor]

Best Buy had 30 dollars off WWE 2k16 and 40 dollars off Until Dawn and it sold out online right away and 2K16 didn't sell out on the XBox One.

[gamertk421]

That's because wrestling games are the worst.

[joeorc]

dreadz74 +
@joeorc last year MS in the sample rate had a commanding lead so margain of error did not matter so much. This year it's a difference of 1% so error margain is there as many more than sampled bought consoles and they did not even add MS store which only sells xbox's . Ya wait bro either side can claim victory if sony won they would say it on top of the mountains same with MS so it means its close real numbers are needed.

Aaron Greenberg already stated both sold well but did not claim #1 spot!

The point is Aaron also pointed to Windows central data which was the Top 5 electronic devices sold during black Friday. The PS4 was also in the top 5!

And

Look Sony was the number 1 selling game console during black Friday, just like Microsoft was last year on black friday, both sold fantastic numbers no doubt. But the blunt fact remains even @ 1% just using the sample size, Amazon and other retail stores aside from just Walmart & target and Best buy is the point.

The data collection used last year was this very same company, and again already other tech sites have even stated Sony did in fact sell more on black Friday.

Do you not think if Microsoft would have had such a win for most sold through systems Aaron Greenberg would have stated already?

[LAWSON72]

Splatoon made #18 on this list, glad to see it I picked it up Friday for only $25 and am having a blast besides the weird camera it is a fantastic online game.

[Gwynbleidd]

Console bundles were crazy this time. I bought my sister the ForzaHorizon 2 bundle for christmas and it came with Halo 5 and Star Wars Batttlefront for 349 bucks.

What a bunch of great deals for gamers!

[Artemidorus]

Didn't get very many decent selection for myself personally where I live.

Shame EA didn't offer any small discount for Star Wars.

[gerbwmu]

Not knowing what percentage of their receipts had a console purchase (or I missed it when reading) but based off their numbers pushed accross a US population, I'll estimate the following sales for black Friday weekend:
PS4 - 700,000
XB1 - 700,000
Wii U - 375,000

[oSHINSAo]

Look at you guys, as if MS or Sony would give you some cash by talking about you console of preference, shame on you. Congrats both anyway, you are doing great.

[franwex]

I was part of that Witcher 3 percentage!
I'm surprised Grand theft auto v is still up there...

[IamTylerDurden1]

I was part of that Axiom Verge %.

Crazy that Call of Duty Blk Ops 3 was easily the top seller, was it even dramatically on sale? I guess CoD was a better investment than Tomb Raider (for Sony/ms).

[VINNIEPAZ]

COD sheeps lol

[esmittystud101]

Thats funny, I say the same thing about Fallout 4. LOL

[esmittystud101]

If an article on the internet told you the sky was falling would you believe it? Different websites are always gonna give you different results when it comes to sales numbers. Some are just going by pre order totals, others are going by what was actually shipped but not sold.

On another note, I think BO3 will outsell all other games. Fallout may have had the day one numbers, but in the long run I think COD will get them if they haven't already. Pretty much alot of the Fallout 4 players got the game on day one of course, but lets look at the numbers six to nine months from now or even a full year.

This is only my guess, but pretty much I think if you haven't bought Fallout 4 yet, your probably not going to anytime soon or even ever. Even with a price drop. If your a fan of the series you got the baby on day one, you all have been waiting how many years now? Yeah, you got it on day one. But take a player like myself. You couldn't pay me to take that game. To each his own though of course.

[IamTylerDurden1]

I think Avi miscalculateed when they decided to launch Just Cause 3 directly after Black Friday. It appears as if the game had a stealth release due to all the non-hype. It's a very competent game as well, shame it's getting lost in the rubble of Black Friday's aftermath.

[VINNIEPAZ]

I dont see how, look how HUGE a difference their is between them. 1 and 8 spots are far apart. Never cared for Fallout personally.