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Steam Controller first impressions: Jack of All Trades, Master of None - IGN

IGN:

"Valve’s Steam Controller has seen numerous revisions since I first saw a 3D-printed mock-up at the Game Developers Conference several years ago -- and now we finally have the finished product in our hands."

SteamPowered3139d ago

Well I'm glad I held off on the preorder. I was really excited for the button-mapping, but Controller Companion seems to do a damn fine job already.
Maybe I'll wait till November when I can try it myself.

XBLSkull3139d ago

Got mine preordered. Only $50 so I'm gonna try it out. Really more excited for steamlink, can always use the x1 elite controller since its the best pad money can buy. Steamlink is a much nicer setup then my current pc->tv setup with now consists of a wireless HDMI transmitter and a 20ft USB extension and hub.

SteamPowered3139d ago

I hear ya there. I bought a cheap $300 laptop from walmart to gamestream to my Upstairs TV. Now if the Steam link could do Android or Apps so I can watch Netflix and Popcorn Time, then we have a winner right here.

Timesplitter143139d ago (Edited 3139d ago )

Was about to order it last night but the retailer's online purchase system was so buggy and complicated that I gave up. Good thing I did.

I think it was pretty inevitable that the steam controller would become a "Jack of All Trades, Master of None", but somehow I was hoping Valve would've figured out a way to make it better

jmc88883139d ago

It's not a full review, and it's not really saying much when it says it isn't as good as a mouse.

That was going to be obvious.

What we've heard is that it's supposed to be quite a bit better then using a regular analog stick, and thus it might make using it on FPS/TPS games viable.

Not perfect, and definitely not for pro use, but if you get say 45-15 on Battlefield 4 on PS4, but using a controller on PC average say 25-25 or thereabouts, if this can get you to say 38-22, then you can use it.

If it can halfway close the gap, then it is great.

Chinkyinc183139d ago

That's what I think, also. I don't care how it fares to KB+M, I want to know if and how much better does it work compared to a standard controller. If it's only better by a marginal amount, it's worthless to me. If it is something that once you get acquainted with, is like you say a bridgegap between controller and KB+M, than I will most likely acquire one.

Ace_Pheonix3139d ago

I have faith it'll be a good product, though I believe it'll take some time for people to adjust to it. It's radically different, but logically it makes great sense. Sticks are not as precise as I'd like.

jmc88883139d ago

I wonder when they'll send out the 2nd wave of controllers.

I ordered mine literally 1 1/2 hours after the pre-order to get it by 'now' happened. They technically say November 10th, but I have a hard time believing that they can't scrap up 50 or so more in a month, and I doubt they sit on thousands of controllers when people are sitting with pre-orders.

Has anyone else pre-ordered one on Steam AFTER the October 14th first wave pre-order ended and gotten a shipping notice?

ICANPLAYGAMES23139d ago

Well I just received it today, so I can tell for myself. I wanted to try both of Valve's devices, and it didn't seem prohibitively expensive, so I figured why not?

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The Frustrating Failed Experiment That Was The Steam Controller

TheGamer Writes "I really tried with the Steam Controller. Valve's first foray into creating its own bespoke gamepad tailored specifically for PC gaming was, putting it mildly, poorly received. It launched in 2015, but by 2019 the company had quietly discontinued it. However, while everyone was gleefully dumping on it, I was determined to get my money's worth. I bounced off it immediately like everyone else, but I thought: Valve is smart."

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lonewolf10559d ago

They should of added some sort of center point on the right track pad, maybe a dip in the center or a slight bump, I think that could help in games for controllers?

Espangerish559d ago

They really just needed the second stick for me. A control scheme alone the lines of the deck would have been a big improvement

gamerz559d ago

Still use it for controlling my living room pc. Never liked it for games. One neat thing is the scroll-wheel function by dragging your finger around the perimeter of the left circlepad - clockwise for down, counter-clockwise for up.

IanTH559d ago (Edited 559d ago )

It's primary value truly is in games that don't support any kind of controller input. You can do a decent job of grafting something usable for games with only direct mouse input, like strategy games and the like, thanks to the touchpads.

Outside that? The customization is really quite excellent, but it is almost impossible to use in place of a traditional controller in a lot of circumstances. It's a nice niche option to have, but I was certainly never able to have it completely replace an XB or PS controller when a game called for one.

MadLad559d ago

I use mine all the time still.

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Steam Deck Is Valve's Biggest Hardware Misses in One Convenient Package

Valve's newly revealed Steam Deck is the Frankenstein resurrection of two of their most notorious products, the Steam Link and the Steam Controller.

jjb19811034d ago

The same could be said about the Switch. It is a combination of the WiiU game pad and the nunchucks. Neither of those were incredible devices either but the refined combination of the two created a highly successful device.

Immagaiden1034d ago

The nunchuck was one of the most successful accessories in gaming. It made a ton of Wii games better

Notellin1033d ago

It was so good they immediately transitioned back to traditional control schemes after the novelty wore off from grandparents playing Wii bowling twice and ordering a Wii fit.

FallenAngel19841033d ago

@ Not

Wii U utilized nunchucks
Switch had a configuration that mimics the nunchuck configuration

Inverno1034d ago

Why does it feel like the media is trying to kill this thing before it gets a chance to even be released?

ScootaKuH1034d ago (Edited 1034d ago )

Yeah I don't really get it. I know Valve have a sketchy history when it comes to hardware but to me it seems the Steam Deck gets far more right than it gets wrong.

Of course we've only seen games playing on prototype systems but already it seems really polished and well thought out. I have faith that the Steam Deck will be a success. I've reserved a 512gb model and the estimated availability is Q2 2022 (UK) so plenty of time to see how it progresses in the coming months. Right now I think it looks really promising, but if, when it launches it's not all that, then I'll cancel and I'll have lost nothing. If, on the other hand, it proves to be every bit as good as promised then I'll be happy to be in the queue 👍

Zeref1034d ago

Nintendo fans feel threatened by it because they didn't get a Switch Pro

King_Noctis1034d ago (Edited 1034d ago )

CBR is owned and operate by Nintendo fan? Wow.

Zeref1033d ago

@King_noctis

I didn't say anything about CBR, don't put words in my mouth 😕

but at the same time yeah whoever wrote could be a Nintendo fanboy

MadLad1034d ago

Because gamers seem excited and games "journalists" get off on being contrarian.

derek1033d ago

I see the exact opposite going on.

annoyedgamer1033d ago

Because its open source. And the media like closed systems that they can control through proxy.

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garos821034d ago

is the hardware upgradeable?

Trunkz1033d ago

Yes but you’d have to really dig inside to do such a thing, I’m sure people will make step by step YouTube videos on how to upgrade parts, tho you’d void the warranty.

foker1034d ago (Edited 1034d ago )

It is cool and all,.. but the thing is huge,.. might as well get a gaming laptop at that size

Zeref1033d ago

Lol it's barely 2 inches longer, you want me to get a big ass gaming laptop cuz of 2 extra Inches? Make it make sense

specialguest1033d ago (Edited 1033d ago )

Seems you can't please everyone. I've read another comment saying the battery is not long enough. Well, a larger battery would mean the handheld would be much larger and heavier, and possibly a little pricier. Now you're saying it's too huge. Well, if it's smaller then the thing would suffer from a hardware downgrade, and cooling might be affected. Then someone else will say it's too weak. It's an endless cycle of complaints

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Valve Loses $4 Million Steam Controller Patent Lawsuit

Valve has lost a patent lawsuit over the Steam Controller to the tune of $4 million — and it could have to pay out even more based on the court's decision.

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moongrim1203d ago

gotta love those patent trolls, invent something in a drawing and start suing people, scum

DaCajun1203d ago

Goes to show you that the patent system is extremely flawed. Should not be able to be a patent without a working prototype at least. If you're to lazy, not intelligent, or creative enough to take your idea from a scribble on some paper to an actual somewhat working product, you should not be allowed a patent.

Most that file patent law suits like these are just con artist looking for the quick easy buck. If these losers spent half as much energy following through on these supposed patents they would probably make more than they do from these lawsuits considering their lawyer is the bigger winner after their cut.

porkChop1203d ago

This isn't really a patent troll. They warned Valve ahead of time to change their design because it was infringing their patent. Valve released the controller anyway.

Patent trolls don't warn companies, they just sit and wait.

spwittbold1203d ago

Clearly someone didn't read the article. They aren't patent trolls if they "warned," Steam before hand that they may potentially be infringing on their patent well before the controller was released for sale. Then again, it's no surprise the average IQ of comments here is just barely room temperature.

Kados1203d ago (Edited 1203d ago )

Ironburg Inventions is a subsidiary of Corsair, which also owns Scuf. Hardly a patent troll when they have had the design on the market for many years.

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Knightofelemia1203d ago

Let's see if this new controller they are working on infringes on another patent Ironbug warned Valve about the controller potentially infringing on the patent yet they still sold it. That right there shows that Valve knew and still moved a head to release it so they are at fault for this one.

rdgneoz31202d ago (Edited 1202d ago )

Read the patent and look at the pictures... The patent has two analog sticks and 1 track pad on the left side. Vavle's controller has 2 track pads and an analog stick. The pictures on the patent look like that were made by a 10 year old trying to draw a controller. The track pad and analog sticks as like the same size in the troll's patent and look exactly the same...
https://patents.google.com/...

Part of that quality patent summary:
"The present invention provides a hand held controller for a video game console having a hard outer case and a plurality of controls located on the front and top edge of the controller. The controller is shaped to be held in both hands of the user such that the user's thumbs are positioned to operate controls located on the front of the controller and the user's index fingers are positioned to operate controls located on the top edge of the controller. The controller further includes one or more additional controls located on the back of the controller in a position to be operated by the user's other fingers.

In one embodiment, each additional control is an elongate member which is inherently resilient and flexible such that it can be displaced by a user to activate control function.

Preferably, each elongate member is mounted within a respective recess located in the case of the controller.

Preferably, each elongate member comprises an outermost surface which is disposed in close proximity to the outermost surface of the controller such that the user's finger may be received in said respective recess.

Preferably, each elongate member has a thickness less than 10 mm thick, more preferably less than 5 mm thick, and most desirably between 1 mm and 3 mm."

Such quality...

If you want to see a real patent not by a troll, check out Sony's PS5 controller patent.
https://www.freepatentsonli...

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gold_drake1203d ago

i mean, they've been warned ahead of their release of the controller.
but i feel like 4 mio. is like pocketchange to them at this point.

Bladesfist1203d ago (Edited 1203d ago )

It's probably just seen as part of the cost of doing business, they're the most profitable American company per employee, I doubt they will have any issue paying it.

specialguest1203d ago (Edited 1203d ago )

Not the first time this type of lawsuit happened. 4 million is peanuts compared to the Immersion vs Sony patent lawsuit where Sony loss and had to pay 97 million plus licensing fees for prior years totalling 53 million. They had to remove the force feedback from the PS3 during the early years until they made an agreement with Immersion. I still have one of those non-force feedback controllers (because "tilt" was the future haha) . MS was sued too, but settled out of court and actually purchased 10% shares of Immersion lol. What that meant was when Immersion won the lawsuit against Sony, MS benefited too

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