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Microsoft: HoloLens Doesn't 'lock out' Xbox VR

VRFocus - Ever since Microsoft revealed its HoloLens augmented reality (AR) head-mounted display (HMD) earlier in 2015, many have assumed that this was the company's answer to virtual reality (VR) HMDs such as the Oculus Rift and Project Morpheus. In fact, the company even went as far as to invite Oculus VR to work with it on HoloLens at its announcement. However, Microsoft's work with HoloLens doesn't necessarily mean that it won't be working on Xbox VR, perhaps for its Xbox One console.

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tinynuggins3478d ago

I hope they don't make their own. I would rather they partner with Oculus for VR and do their own thing with Hololens.

iamnsuperman3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

For a company like Microsoft, making their own is the only logical way forward. Partnership with Oculus would never happen since it would require Microsoft to leave the VR capabilities up to someone else. Microsoft is too big to do that

breakpad3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

i think they will partner with Occulus ...is the best logical approach (especially if they invited them to check HoloLens) they are both american companies and there are many VR (wiht strong RD teams behind them) in development for MS to compete

VenomUK3478d ago

I genuinely think a future iteration of HoloLens could be successful especially with education and business. However right now, the market of manufacturers and software developers are working on VR for leisure (games). This includes Oculus, Valve and Sony and the many companies producing games. The benefit is that VR research can be swapped from one platform to another. So if a developer gets VR game Adrift working on Morpheus then it can easily be converted to Oculus. This means VR has a real chance to grow to become a profitable sub-industry.

However HoloLens AR is different and requires different research so it is effectively carving it's own niche in the industry. I'd love to see Xbox One get in on the VR action but Microsoft would confuse the public if they release HoloLens and a VR headset. Phil Spencer knows there is merit to VR and is perhaps lining up a product for the next Xbox...

blackout3477d ago

With the strong in house work on Surface and now the purchase of Nokia I don't think Microsoft will be outsourcings anything is. On another note isn't Microsoft a major investor in Facebook. Just a thought but anything is possible in this day In age.

Charybdis3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

With windows 10 stuff etc I can see Microsoft supporting different VR devices on the different windows 10 devices including the xbox one. I assume that windows 10 will support multiple VR devices, which might eventually translate into support for the xbox one (also being part of the same ecosystem).
There could be some interesting partnership possibilities for VR display ond the xbox 1. Meanwhile I do hope they will keep doing their own thing with their hololens.

ShottyatLaw3478d ago

I would like the idea of a piece of hardware like Oculus being Windows compatible across my PC and my Xbox.

lemoncake3478d ago

I think we will see them partner with oculus, microsoft are all about trying to create one ecosystem atm.

BallsEye3477d ago

I rather want hololens for XO. Not only because it's way more advanced tech, but because it's a computer on it's own. A lot of people forget VR needs TONS and TONS of processing power to work. You need basically 60 (best 120)fps game n 1080p running TWICE in the same time. Now consoles struggle to pull of good graphics in 1080p/30 so don't expect a good looking VR game on consoles. Hololens however will actually boost XO, as it's a separate computer running on win10, not a peripheral like VR.

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Gazondaily3478d ago

I think they should focus on HoloLens instead of scattering their focus on AR.

christocolus3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

I have always assumed that MS would announce their own VR tech.its been rumored for a while now that MS has been working on other input devices for Xbox.i remember one of the oculus guys also saying MS was one of the companies interested in buying out the tech but they went with Facebook instead.

If MS wasn't interested in VR then why would they make a bid for Oculus?i'm guessing they've been working on theirs or maybe partnered with another company to create a standard VR device capable of working with Kinect2 and maybe Hololens (a partnership similar to what valve and htc are doing with vive).My guess?we will see an announcement at E3..

DigitalRaptor3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

"why would they make a bid for Oculus?"

Because their primary competitor in the console space has an almost consumer-ready VR headset that has been many years in the making, and they have nothing to compare. An idea like HoloLens is something they were probably always going to do regardless of gaming, after Google prototyped their Glass technology. It's something that is more applicable to areas outside gaming than within since gaming is a fraction of their operating structure. VR, it's obvious they won't be doing until Project Morpheus has been their case study.

Bigpappy3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

From my recollection, I believe I have read some one from M$ stating that M$ have put years of research into VR and had several prototypes. If am not mistake, that person was Phil Spencer.

http://123kinect.com/gdc-20...

http://gamingtrend.com/2014...

raymantalk13477d ago

ill just point out to you bigpappy sony was working on VR long before MS came to the gaming market not knocking MS but stating a fact i know you dont like anything sony but this is a truth you cannot deny but i am sure you gonna try :)

bleedsoe9mm3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

or not bother with either and make great exclusives i can play on my tv . i've got a bad feeling ms and sony's E3 are going to be VR heavy .

UnHoly_One3478d ago

Don't waste your time, Microsoft, VR is going to flop.

HARD.

Stiffler3478d ago

I believe MS is partly thinking this and that's why they're almost keeping a step back from the VR crowd and seeing what happens.

Could be wrong but it seems like that's what's happening with them atm.

gangsta_red3478d ago

I think this is actually the case. Not that VR is going to flop hard, but to actually see if VR is going to be an actual success.

There seems to be a buzz about it, but that buzz seems as artificial as the buzz and push for 3D these media billion dollar corporations marketed to the consumer.

Stiffler3478d ago

My thoughts exactly red. Interesting

Concertoine3478d ago

How many people are willing to pay 200 for a peripheral with limited use? Maybe some on this site, but in real life, no way.

annoyedgamer3478d ago

They have been talking about VR since the 80s, it has never materialized because the concept works only in the imagination. In real life it is impractical.

Moldiver3478d ago

The thing is, VR headsets will cost almost as much as a console. I dont see the adoption rate being very high on any platform that is not the PC. And even on PC Its difficult to say how successful it will be. I dont hear any non gamers talking about VR, and the ones I know would not been seen dead with one. Its an uber-nerd gadget in there eyes. May aswell be the old nintendo powerglove.

Im on the fence about whether I will buy one personally. I still need to know more about these side effects from por longed use. I know gamers that spend up to 6-8 hours playing. Dread to think what would happen to them if they got their hands on VR headsets.....

UnHoly_One3477d ago

I'm one of those gamers that will play for long stretches.

I have absolutely zero desire to get a VR headset.

Wearing my TV on my face adds absolutely zero value to the experience for me. I just don't see the appeal of it, especially once you weigh all the negatives.

Moldiver3477d ago

"especially once you weigh all the negatives"

^^Especially this. I guarantee you when these headsets are out in the wild we will hear of a few horror stories.

Bigpappy3477d ago

I am scared as an MF about the side effects of VR or anything screwing with my eye and perception.

I will wait a year or two before I even consider more than a few minutes of VR. Once they come up with a standard that works, the should have it independently studied for long term effects before using gamers as test animals.

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krypt19833478d ago

They should keep there focus on hololens and not worry about vr it is going to be niche just like 3d tvs and go away for gaming atleast, there is will be small indie titles that are like a hour long but you wont see call of duty and AAA games, vr will better suit other applications besides gaming and the entry fee will be outrageous..

iamnsuperman3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

If you think Microsoft should not bother with VR because of it being niche then I can't image how you think a focus on hololens is a better route. AR is far more niche than VR. If they are going to do one or the other VR is a better route

bleedsoe9mm3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

ms is all about keeping their thumbs in every pie in case the world heads that way they don't have to start from scratch . i don't think the industry knows what VR or AR games/experiences are going to look like , throw crap at the wall and follow the money .

LexHazard793478d ago

Lol...dont make me laugh dude. AR has better usage for real world applications. Go watch the concept video again....the one with the plumber showing a customer how to fix plumbing issue. You cant do that with VR...Hololens has the potential to be a game changer. MS is thinking more than just games with Hololens. Anyway..I hope VR does well...MS will have Hololens and a VR headset....

iamnsuperman3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

@BakPAin

You might want to think about the practical side of wearing a headset all day. For the business side employees are going to hate it. Wearing a big visor not only looks ridiculous but also far less comfortable that sitting in front of a far cheaper monitor. Employers are not going to waste the money on something that a monitor can do. Employees won't want to wear something all day. This is a problem that effect the consumer side of things. People don't want to wear stuff on their face to see an AR view of the world (look at Google Glass)

Then the gaming side. AR requires space because it overlays on your living room. It will have the same problem kinect had. You need space and uninterupted space. AR has never sold to the public well. Look at Google Glass. What it did was impressive and it isn't far off what Microsoft is offering

If you think AR is popular then you are going to be shocked when it doesn't sell. AR is more like 3D than VR (and VR is fairly niche itself)

nickster3478d ago

Go ahead MS and copy Sony, it's ok.

LexHazard793478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

Did Sony invent VR? They weren't even the first console makers to dable with VR. Did you forget SEGA and Nintendo back in the days. Who's copying who? Let me guess Sony has Morpheus blueprints from early 90s...LoL..

Btw- We'll see whos copying who if Hololens does well.

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Report: Microsoft Cutting 650 More Jobs From Gaming Division Per Phil Spencer's Letter to Employees

Phil Spencer has sent a letter out to employees informing them that 650 jobs would be cut from Microsoft's gaming division.

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VenomUK7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

‘Good guy Phil’?

The truth likely is that the decision was not his to make and is possibly a direct consequence of cutting costs following the ABK deal.

DodoDojo7d ago

Would be nice if he'd mail one of those letters to himself.

RhinoGamer887d ago

Cut costs -> no bonus, stock options, raises for Phil and his leadership team.

Lightning777d ago

"Good guy Phil" is comical. You have to bleed green to see that. I'm only a matter of time until MS, that's right MS even in ages themselves from the industry.

Sad, people and even sadder and pathetic company.

fr0sty7d ago

If they keep this up, they won't even be able to go third party anymore after they stop making Xbox hardware.

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bionicstar7d ago

game devs aren't being let go.

“As part of aligning our post-acquisition team structure and managing our business, we have made the decision to eliminate approximately 650 roles across Microsoft Gaming—mostly corporate and supporting functions—to organize our business for long term success.”

darthv727d ago

getting rid of some suits... now this news isnt so bad. Too many suits makes all the wrong decisions, esp the top dogs.

Michiel19897d ago

@darth they arent suits, they are people that work in administration, customer support and that kinda stuff

ZacultronTheFirst7d ago

Probably people from much needed Marketing department.

Nacho_Z7d ago

It doesn't make it any better if they aren't devs being fired.

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Petebloodyonion7d ago

The original story is from IGN as they are the ones who got the memo.
https://www.ign.com/article...

Still sucks!

badboyz097d ago

The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching.

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Obscure_Observer7d ago

"The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching."

Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.

1Victor7d ago

@obscured: “ Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.”
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Welcome back we missed you said no one 🤣

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I don’t remember Sony cutting over 1900 employees then Less than 7 months later get a leak for another 600 to be on the chopping board but hey let’s equate that to a few people not been happy about a mid gen system refresh price 🤦🏿.

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1Victor7d ago

@obscured: “
They also casually forget that Sony have been laying off thousands of people too”
Yeeesh I got a better help discount code for you

BehindTheRows7d ago

Uh, thr Pro "backlash" is hardly something that's going to tank their business. Unless you've been living under a rock, there's no question that Xbox is in the gutter.

Quit pivoting to Sony because you don't like the subject matter. Their game division isn't in the toilet.

DodoDojo7d ago

Well Sony isn't selling more copies of their games on a rival system yet so they must be doing alright.

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Mr_cheese6d ago

@obscure

Saves some straws for the rest of us will you

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343_Guilty_Spark6d ago

Vastly approaching is a weird phrase… vastly is typically used to convey the degree of some size or length or time.

Vastly approaching makes no sense.

You mean rapidly approaching.

MrDead7d ago

A combined $80 billion spent on consolidating a massive part of the industry, thousands fired all to line the pockets of the already wealthy and turn the gaming industry into a rental service.

FU MS.

crazyCoconuts7d ago

MS is a publicly traded company. If you have a 401K you yourself might own MS stocks.
I'm definitely not a MS fan, but CEOs need to keep returns high to keep their jobs if nothing else. They don't get to transfer the salaries to their accounts.
I blame MS for failed strategies, poor execution, lack of vision, etc.
These layoffs are just the result of those things.

MrDead7d ago

That's the weakest excuse for a giant monopoly I've ever seen... also companies like MS are more likely to damage people's 401k through monopolistic practices.

Obscure_Observer7d ago

"FU MS."

I love how you act all enraged and bully when it´s MS firing people.

"It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?

We been seeing some of Sony recent bs moves and you know what´s coming, right?

I´m expecting you to disappear the same way you do every time Sony layoff hundreds of people or get a whole studio shut down.

You´ll do anything to avoid and hold them accountable. But that's OK. You´are not biased, right?

1Victor7d ago

@obscured: “ "It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?”

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Well Sony didn’t overreached and spend over 80 BILLION$ to acquire mayor 3rd party game developers and one MAYOR publisher the owner of the BIGGEST FPS just hoping to keeping it exclusive to their system and now having to fire thousands of employees to valance their books one more quarter.
Now Microsoft is beginning and going to kiss Sony dark ring and publish their “first party games “ on PlayStation. Regardless of who it is it’s wrong to do an acquisition and then fire people.
I applaud Microsoft for at least giving them a severance package and assistance getting a new job 👍👍.

MrDead7d ago

Chill out kid... also why bring up Sony, have they just spent 80 billion to consolidate a massive part of the industry to the detriment of thousands of workers?

MS lines their pockets whilst firing thousands, such a shame you support this.

Chevalier7d ago

Gee someone here said Xbox would NEVER release 1st party games on Playstation or competing platforms again?! Never tired to see you eat crow again.

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OlderGamer177d ago

But but Sony bad...thats the normal damagecontroll from O_O. Dude its time to sing another song, this one is sounding like a broken record......

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LG_Fox_Brazil7d ago

Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in Brazil we have a say that goes like this:

'May the last one to leave please turn off the lights'

What the heck is MS even doing right now?

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Something Feels Off About Indiana Jones and the Great Circle

Shaz from GL: “Amidst recent concerns surrounding Xbox, Phil and Co. need a win. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Indiana Jones and the Great Circle will be it.”

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TwoPicklesGood12d ago

Looks good to me and I’m glad it’s coming to ps5

VenomUK11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

When it comes to video game previews I’m of the opinion that journalists should maintain a position of CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM. Yes, note and share concerns about the game with readers but maintain a restrained optimistic stance until actually having reviewed it so that any negativity is based on the game’s quality and not the author’s prejudices.

Here the author writes “ I’m going to continue to keep my cynicisms intact, less so because of my trust in MachineGames and more so due to the dumpster fire that continues to be modern-day Xbox.” This example illustrates the need to follow this guidance.

DefenderOfDoom211d ago

Not worried about facial animations , but I do hope the gameplay is fun . Most definitely I will purchase this on PS5, if the gameplay is fun .

BaughJaughs11d ago

nice hit piece. I notice the writer didn't mention any of the journalists / creators who had good things to say. From what i hear, it has riddick: escape from butcher bay in its DNA. To me that sounds like something to be Optimistic about rather than pessimistic.

ChasterMies11d ago

It’s odd to have a first person perspective for an adventure game with stealth and brawling. But’s not without precedent. Wolfenstein: New Order and Wolfenstein: New Colossus had a lot of adventure game elements. They were in the league of the greatest games ever, but they were both fun games. Indy looks fun too.

YourMommySpoils11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Yes, Indy looks like Todd Howard. Something feels way too off.

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Report: Microsoft Apologizes to Jyamma Games for Lack of Communication on Enotria: The Last Song

Microsoft apologizes to Jyamma Games for communication issues causing an Xbox delay of Enotria: The Last Song.

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Lightning7715d ago

Yadda, yadda, yadda they always apologize and never learn their lesson. Expect more stories of MS miscommunication.

Same song different dance it's always the same with this company.

jwillj2k415d ago

Waiting for “ we don’t comment on competitors not allowing us to respond to developers.”

TheColbertinator15d ago

The developers of Enotria should beg forgiveness from Microsoft instead. On their knees.

CobraKai15d ago

No they can’t. This is the last you will hear from him

tay870115d ago

Why it's not like any bots will buy the game when it finally does release on xbox. Not even sure why they would still even bother to release it on xbox.

XiNatsuDragnel15d ago

It's Microsoft fault not there's homie

Profchaos15d ago

Only because it was in the news what about all the other Devs they ignore daily words are cheaper I guess

franwex15d ago

I’ve never even heard of this game before this debacle. Not that I side with Microsoft’s horrendous handling of every situation, but the drama sort of gave this game publicity.

XBManiac15d ago

Firing internal support and delegating to external agencies and personnel takes time... well... takes time or ruins the company. What will happen here?

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