If you’re one of the many who’ve participated in the Battlefield Hardline beta, chances are you’ve noticed some key changes to Visceral Games’ version of the established shooter franchise.
Gotta wonder why Starcraft: Ghost literally became a ghost.
One of the titles we missed covering. But our guess? Uneasiness between Platinum and Microsoft.
Platinum said they actually deserve a lot of the blame. Realistically both parties made mistakes. Platinum bit off more than they could chew at the time, and MS didn't quite understand how to just sit back and let the devs work their magic.
Hopefully the two can come together and try again because the game sounded really good.
If it was a single player game I think it would have had a better chance of coming out . Ms wanted it to be online co-op . Dragon games aren’t easy to make and making it co-op is even harder and to me that was the major factor of why it failed
Not sure where people are getting their info that MS 'wanted' it to be co-op. From it's first teaser it was shown to have some type of co-op feature. It was probably pitched to MS as a multiplayer co-op game and Kamiya has gone on record saying he bit off a bit more than he could chew. You can definitely see elements on what they wanted to do with Scalebound in Bayonetta 3.
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Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it. Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop. Lastly, in in-game continuity, it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights. At least, as a hyped feature of the game, I've never heard explanation for it.
Regardless of what a dev, who wants to do business with MS so likely isn't going to badmouth them, says. Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew".
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"Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it."
Where are you getting this info from, because the story I've read is that Kamiya had the idea for a while and always wanted to make it but ultimately went with Bayonetta. He then pitched the idea to MS and then started to develop it. There may have been ideas for features from in other games that may have found there way to Scalbound, but Scalebound was not created beforehand.
"Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop."
That may be true for most MS games but that still doesn't mean it was mandated by MS for Platinum to do. And even if it was, Platinum agreed to do it, there wasn't a surprise by MS that they needed to add multiplayer halfway through development. That is not how third party development works, both parties agree through signed contracts beforehand what's expected with milestone deliverables.
"..it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights."
Not sure what you're not understanding, but there were customized versions of different players coming to help for boss fight. Maybe there was a mechanic to have characters equip different gear, the same type of features that is pretty standard found in multiple games of its type.
"Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew"."
Kamiyah has never held back his opinions, he's been extremely outspoken in the past. Enough years has gone by for him to have told even a fraction of what you think might have happened and still not him or anyone from Platinum, from recent employees to any ex employee has said anything of what you are claiming.
Cheaters & hackers have been causing grief on Battlefield 1, Hardline & BF4 servers, with nonstop DDoS attacks among other things. Unfortunately, EA has remained silent about it.
Not even if they paid me.. EA always do this with old games with less money potential, if this was Ultimate Team, they'd address and sort it faster than stories could spread. Why invest time in their products when they will just dump it in the following years? Then again EA never could see the forest for the trees.
I imagine after those games were given out for free a couple months back through Amazon, anything that makes people go to 2042 is a plus for them
Nah. I think they can't do anything about it or they want to sink money into fixing it.
EA owns all BF servers so yes, they can do something about it but they refuse to because they dont want ppl playing their old games instead of the new one. Its EA we’re talking about here
if this happened in 2042, they'd have something to say. which is weird, considering battlefield 1 has more players on steam right now.
Its so obvious that EA is doing this or hired ppl to mess up the games so that we’d be forced to have just 1 Battlefield working.
Honestly it’s probably the devs themselves. They did an update to bf4 way back that kinda made assault rifles doo doo in hopes that people would flock to BF1 cuz BF4 was too perfect
The Dead Space remake might have brought the franchise back, but much like all the other studios EA felled, Visceral Games itself remains dead.
Visceral games and Sledgehammer games is Striking Distance studios now and they're making the Callisto Protocol 😊
Yep, looking forward to that one for sure. Just started the original DS again, still great to play now, impressive for a 13 year old game.
Exactly, which is why i rolled my eyes when EA announced this remake. Both fans and the devs behind Dead Space have been asking for a new game in the series for a long time and EA just wouldn't listen. But now that the devs have taken things into their own hands making Callisto Protocol, EA suddenly wants to show interest, so petty.
I would like to see EA make a Dead Space sequel or reboot from scratch without Visceral. Now that would be interesting
The only way I see them making a good dead space reboot is if respawn made it. Motive needs those visceral fundamentals imo. And dead space one deserves a makeover. Any team can make dead space 1 better, it’s already near perfect.
"EA reacts to what other publishers are creating rather than striking out on its own."
Man...this really describes them perfectly. I suppose Capcom making resident evil remakes made them interested in dead space. I feel a bit guilty even purchasing this remake now. Maybe I wait for callisto protocol.
I feel like the game was perfect in the beta, it had a really nice feel, much better then BF4.
It felt more like Bad Company 2 then BF4 and I hope it stays like that for the final release because it was a blast to play and the game just felt really good. Much better then the first Beta..
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It was crap... Played the beta, barely felt the need to have a 2nd game, but gave it another chance, & same feeling.....just nothing, nothing exciting, nothing new, nothing at all that made it stand out from the waaaaaaay better game available already, such as FC4, Destiny, COD:AW, etc, etc...In fact, COD:Ghosts is a more fun game than this, & that is saying something.
So much potential....but so much better in games like Payback 1&2, & GTA5.
Hardline literally did nothing to outdo, or even make itself competitive with these better opposition games, that involve the premise of heists. Yes, it is cops vs robbers, & adds that rivalry online,......but it neither did it well, nor interestingly... Just boring, bland, quite slow, uninteresting gameplay. Dice really need to up there game & make the games controls more akin to COD, as the BF games have always had that more inbetween, weighty, sluggish, feeling...