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Early DirectX 12 tests note a 400% increase on AMD GPUs, 150% on Nvidia cards

Early testing of an alpha build of DirectX 12 indicates that gamers will see some impressive improvements in GPU performance when the software launches alongside the Windows 10 OS.

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crazychris41243786d ago

Sounds good. Hopefully we get some news at GDC of games with DX 12

Testfire3786d ago

Or @ E3. Hopefully we'll see or hear of some games being developed with DX12.

GameNameFame3786d ago (Edited 3786d ago )

Good news, but lets get this right. This is a case scenario of when multithreading was not done well and done well with help of DX12.

This is amazing for PC because it is so difficult to implement multi threading over so many different PCs out there.

My i7 rarely get any full usage in video gaming.

However, on consoles, devs already do multithreading. Especially the big devs. Hence why Spence said improvements wont be dramatic. Big console games already do this.

Foehammer3786d ago (Edited 3785d ago )

http://n4g.com/news/1668081...

According to the interview with Brad Wardell at 13:00, he disagrees, saying that developers use pre existing API and save time and money.

He also states that they have several games under development using DX12 and it will do 90% of the multi-threading work for the developer.

Why didn't GameNameFame answer the question from Outthink_the_room (1.1.8)?

http://n4g.com/news/1668683...

"I want you to show me an API (aside from DX12) that allows for a CPU to use anything but Thread 0 as the operation starter. "

Oh wait, just checked GameNmeFame's history, nothing but troll comments on X1 articles

Sad, some ppl are really upset about all the positive x1 news.

Edit @ Tim, well said

GameNameFame3786d ago (Edited 3786d ago )

@Foe
Spencer shot this down already,but

You do realize your Brad also said that this is already doable on existing X1

He also said won't close any gaps on Ps4 since ps4 will get it.

And any multithreading benefits ps4 far more since it is really built for this.

http://media.redgamingtech....

Quit your delusion man.

Double Toasted3786d ago

The reason for the AMD results is because of Mantle isn't it? Besides there are no DX12 cards out(?) So that would explain the lower % for Nvidia.

Testfire3786d ago

There are cards out capable of running DX12. A simple patch would be all it takes. There's a list out, but I'm too lazy at the moment to look for it.

Tctczach3786d ago

I know for NVIDIA it's like 500 series cards and up.

Sonital3786d ago

@Tctczach My 560Ti rejoices!

RedDeadLB3786d ago (Edited 3786d ago )

No, the reason the increase on AMD cards is so big is that they don't do so well in DX11 when it comes to draw calls. I experienced it first hand. Nvidia drivers just have a lower overhead than AMD drivers.

Check StarSwarm benchmarks for proof. AMD cards needed Mantle to be on par or slightly faster than Nvidia cards in DX11.

KTF263786d ago

R-200 and HD7000 support DX12
and the higher percentage because AMD cards perform really bad on DX11 Star Swarm
GTX750ti can get 21 fps and R9-290x get only 8 fps

obviously it's driver issue and AMD don't want to fix it because it show huge advantage for Mantle over DX11

lfc_4eva3786d ago

Read it more carefully.
400% sounds more impressive than 150% for Nvidia.
However the AMD cards are starting from a much lower fps base.

Volkama3786d ago

No not because mantle. The reason is because the direct11 result in these tests was so bad for AMD. Article title is prime example of misleading statistics.

The AMD cards increased by 400% from a starting point of about 7-9fps. The nVidia nubers climbed 150% from a starting point of about 25fps. End result is AMD do make up a lot of ground, but nVidia is still faster.

Bigpappy3786d ago

We have to wait for the final version of DX12 and the drivers for windows10 , to really decide for which card will have the best gains. This is nice to see these types of gains this early, but the drivers will make a world of difference.

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WESKER20153786d ago

my radeon r9 290x is pleased :)

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK3d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif3d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer3d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin3d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer8h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent753d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer3d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused4d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher4d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning773d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay3d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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NVIDIA Smooth Motion: Up to 70% More FPS Using Driver Level Frame Gen on RTX 50 GPUs

NVIDIA’s RTX 50 “Blackwell” architecture has been a bit of a bore for us gamers. Apart from Multi Frame Generation, which has limited use-case scenarios, there isn’t much to be excited about. It is achieved using GPU-side Flip Metering. The optical field data is generated using AI models in the Tensor cores.

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PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti GPU Review

Between the price, performance and power draw, with the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, NVIDIA nailed the mainstream formula.

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