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Lords of the Fallen Dev: "Low level APIs Complex Concepts To Grasp, Won’t Bet On Mantle Right Now"

As Michele said, Mantle or low level APIs in general are quite complex concepts to grasp, especially for those without a technical background.

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Angeljuice3899d ago

So they're basically saying "Our development studio doesn't have the technical know-how to use low level API's".

Initially that seems worrying, but I suppose it hasn't stopped plenty of PC games being produced in the past. Still, its quite a bold move to admit that you don't have the required expertise.

thekhurg3899d ago

Not what they said at all. Take 15 seconds and read the article.

SamPao3899d ago

exactely what I was thinking, I read it three times just to check where the hell they could have said that...!

Angeljuice3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

I did read the article, and joined the dots, came to my conclusion and am sticking with it.

@ Ultr
Its implied rather than stated.

I'm not saying I'm correct, I just interpreted it as saying (and I'm paraphrasing here);

Low-level API's produce better results but are much harder to program for and require a certain level of technical understanding that not all studio devs possess, we are avoiding them.
Just my take on the situation, nothing more.

RyanShutup3899d ago

I like how this dev team operates, it's super refreshing to hear an honest answers. I'm picking this up day one, pretty stoked about it.

SamPao3899d ago

I ordered it yesterday but cancelled my order today because I know that I already have enough games for the holiday season...but I guess I'm going to preorder it again for exactely the reason you gave

Seafort3899d ago

Well the person responsible for the honest answers is Tomasz Gop, ex CD Project RED Senior Producer for The Witcher 1 and 2. He is now executive producer for Lords of the Fallen.

Can't wait for Lords of the Fallen. It's out Tuesday by all accounts :)

Agent_hitman3899d ago

From what I know so far about Low level APIs, it uses most of the GPU's resources to process the task in parallel as an alternative for CPU especially if the CPU clocks low, low powered just like ojn PS4/X1.

Even on smartphones and tablets these days, most of the apps not just games are GPU intensive and no longer CPU suckers.. For faster processing or process cycle.

DougLord3899d ago

Low level API's are very difficult to program for. They require the programmer to do a lot more resource management - which used to be done by the compiler. Particularly DX12/Mantle which focus on increasing parallelism so that weaker 8 core CPUs can compete with stronger 4 core CPUs. This takes a very deep specialization - and smaller studios just don't have the resources to keep tons of specialists on staff.

The reason MSFT, Nvidia and AMD/ATI came up with APIs like DX, OpenGL, Java - or even programming languages like C++ - was to make it easier for generalist programmers to execute specialized commands.

Think about it. Some studios buy an entire engine from EPIC, Crytek or Id - so they can focus on plot and art assets. Some engines rely on API's to manage resources to focus on adding next gen features.

At my company we have a guy that programs in C and a guy that programs in assembly. They can't even understand each other.

Anonagrog3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

"At my company we have a guy that programs in C and a guy that programs in assembly. They CAN'T even understand each other."

I find that very hard to believe.

Every C/C++ programmer out there should have experience with assembly, especially if they want to be even remotely competent at debugging their own code. C is only one cut above assembly, so if one doesn't understand how the hardware or compiler(s) works at some good level, then I don't see how anyone could consider themselves competent at C/C++ - there are so many 'gotchas' in languages at this low-level that it just becomes necessary. Regarding your assembly programmer, that's just ridiculous. C has been around for nearly half a century. I just don't see how that person could have even pulled off a professional career up until now without any knowledge of C-like languages whatsoever.

Axonometri3899d ago

I love your post. Especially your last statement about the team members. Thanks for sharing. Made me laugh.

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CI Games CEO Slams Former Lords of the Fallen Dev, Says They "Lied for Likes"

CI Games CEO criticized a former developer for allegedly wanting to end support for Lords of the Fallen after its disastrous launch.

jznrpg8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I’ll play it someday. Bought it on sale for cheap off of Amazon (19.99$ I believe) but I have to make time for it. Death Stranding 2 will take up my next couple of months maybe after that.

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Lords of the Fallen Is Taking a Page Right Out of Hazelight Studios' Book With New Feature

The Friend's Pass feature is now available for Lords of the Fallen, allowing players to co-op with another, even if they don't own the game.

jznrpg69d ago

I just bought it for 20$ and was hoping to find someone to play it with me. This will definitely make it easier to get someone to jump in with me

Elda69d ago

I played the game already, it was always hard to find co-op.

Luc2069d ago

I've finished it a while ago. It supports cross platform co-op and you'll always find someone to help you

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Lords of the Fallen Devs Start a New Subreddit

Marek Tyminski:

Join our new community-run Reddit page for Lords of the Fallen - the ONLY subreddit we’ll be supporting moving forward! Stay tuned for exclusive updates and enjoy gaming-focused discussions (no politics!) - the way a gaming page should be.

gold_drake131d ago

perfect example of when Mods are power hungry and think they are gods.

good on the devs.

Gamingsince1981130d ago

Reddit is a cesspool of retardation, the world would be better off if the site died, its full of basement dwelling soy drinkers that think they have power.

gold_drake130d ago

its not just reddit, but i do agree with that haha xD

senorfartcushion130d ago

Or... People are moore like children than ever and "powitics is scawwwwy. "

SDuck130d ago

You could say the same about Twitter lol
In its defence, Reddit is a great source of answers when you need googling an issue

tinchotin130d ago

@senorfartcushion they were not even able to participate in the sub of their own game, they were banned by the mods

porkChop131d ago

Good. If the mods are going to be petty and strip the devs of admin powers then take the mods power away by removing the need for their subreddit entirely.

MeteorPanda130d ago

Like imagine the community manager sacing the ceo. What power grubbing gremlins

CrashMania130d ago

Stripping the devs permissions over this is incredibly petty, over such a tiny thing as well.

Ghostwood130d ago

Nothing but hysterics from the reddit mods. Shameful.

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